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LikeUntoGod
03-29-2012, 09:43 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/29/2719985/miami-dolphins-jeff-ireland-to.html

Since the fact that he will go to Tannehill's work out was so exciting, I thought I'd add this info.....

Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland, who is carefully studying the draft-eligible quarterbacks, is expected to attend workouts this week for Texas A&M’s Ryan Tannehill and Arizona State’s Brock Osweiler.

Osweiler, 6-7, will audition for teams on Friday in Tempe, Ariz. He threw 26 touchdowns and 13 interceptions last season.

Seattle Seahawks coach Pete Carroll said Wednesday that Osweiler and Arizona’s 6-5 Nick Foles — who are second-round options — “both have big arms, great size in the mold of a lot of guys that have made it. They are Joe Flacco-type of quarterbacks, that kind of makeup.”

baddsnapp4
03-29-2012, 10:56 PM
I think Osweiler will be picked by the fins at some point in the draft, just a feeling.

Phanatical
03-29-2012, 11:02 PM
I'm not surprised. Osweiller could turn out to be a legitimate NFL starter. I just hope they don't select another Pat White, John Beck, Chad Henne etc.

LikeUntoGod
03-29-2012, 11:30 PM
He is my choice. We can take him in the 3rd. We can set him for a couple of years. He will not cost a lot. And we can take another starter at number 8.

Ricky4Life
03-29-2012, 11:50 PM
He is my choice. We can take him in the 3rd. We can set him for a couple of years. He will not cost a lot. And we can take another starter at number 8.. We will take a QB this draft but only problem is we have two on the roster on one year deals. So who ever we take I would assume would be taking over next year.

DphinBillkiller
03-30-2012, 12:04 AM
It seems like Ireland is not relying on the scouts as much but leaving his office and being more visible as a talent evaluator.

BladeRunner
03-30-2012, 12:14 AM
He is my choice. We can take him in the 3rd. We can set him for a couple of years. He will not cost a lot. And we can take another starter at number 8.

He is also my choice. The kid is young, raw and needs to mature. He has a cannon for an arm and good accuracy. Match him up with a good QB coach like Mike Shula and Osweiler will be a force to be reckoned with.

kloud_9
03-30-2012, 12:27 AM
You know...this draft I don't see many bust at qb except maybe foles and maybe tannehill,but cousin,weeden and all these other guys after the big 3 seem like solid starters

RobertHorry
03-30-2012, 07:58 AM
If we get him in the 6th round I would take him. Anything below that is reaching. This kid is vastly overrated and basically sucks at being a quarterback.

Take Lindley all day everyday over Osweiller. If you think Mallet had shoddy footwork when being rushed, wait until you see the prodigy of Osweiller with some of the worst footwork and inability to step into his throws and pivoting his hips for an accurate throw when being rushed.

SebasMiamiFan
03-30-2012, 12:41 PM
I don't see what people like about him.

SkapePhin
03-30-2012, 12:48 PM
I don't see what people like about him.

His height.

Harry_Bagpipe
03-30-2012, 12:57 PM
I might be forgetting someone, but when was the last time a big time project qb, who had the size and arm but had terrible footwork and little else, actually panned out and became a legit nfl qb

LikeUntoGod
03-30-2012, 02:19 PM
I might be forgetting someone, but when was the last time a big time project qb, who had the size and arm but had terrible footwork and little else, actually panned out and became a legit nfl qb

I'm not sure what that has to do with Osweiler.

Brock Osweiler, QB, Arizona State
Height: 6-7. Weight: 242.
Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
Hand: 9 7/8.
Projected Round (2012): 2-3.
3/29/12: Osweiler was moving up draft boards as teams prepared for the Combine. He hurt his climb by not working out in Indianapolis. Osweiler is going to need an impressive pro day to be the fourth quarterback selected. Brandon Weeden and Kirk Cousins are his competition, and they both worked out at the Combine.

Osweiler is big-armed pocket passer who has surprising mobility. The former basketball player has good athletic ability for being so tall. Looking at him, one would think he would be a statue in the pocket, but that is definitely not the case.

As a junior this year, Osweiler completed 63 percent of his passes for 4,036 yards with 26 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. He also ran for 298 yards and three touchdowns. His stats this season set the school records for yards, completions and attempts. In 2010, he had only two starts, but played well, throwing for 797 yards and five touchdowns with zero interceptions while also running for 168 yards and a score.

Osweiler has real arm strength and the gun to be a starting quarterback in the NFL. He is very raw and needs some work. If Osweiler goes to a good coaching staff that can develop him for a few years, he could turn into something. It wouldn't be surprising if Osweiler's stock rises during the lead up to the draft. He should have stayed in school and improved before going pro.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2012QB.php

Geforce
03-30-2012, 02:40 PM
I don't see what people like about him.
I think Greg Cosell might agree with you.
http://arizonasports.com/44/1520524/NFL-Films-Cosell-not-a-fan-of-Brock-Osweiler


I thought he had a tendency to push the ball. I thought his arm angle was low on his delivery. I thought he over-strided a lot, which even lowered his arm angle more. I thought he did not drive the ball. And I even made a note that he did not have a strong arm - he needed functional space. I didn't think he was highly accurate. You can tell that in the games that I watched, I wasn't a big fan. To me, he was a 7-on-7 passer. If he had a comfortable pocket and a defined read, he could make the throw. In fact, I made a note to myself that there were similarities with Charlie Whitehurst when he came out of Clemson.

LikeUntoGod
03-30-2012, 03:42 PM
Who is Greg Cosell?

Geforce
03-30-2012, 03:48 PM
Who is Greg Cosell?
The nephew of Howard Cosell and the senior producer at NFL Films.

LANGER72
03-30-2012, 03:56 PM
If you have watched his highlights, you would see that he has excellent quickness and agility for a man his size. The arm strength is elite.
He is immature and will need some work to bring him up to NFL speed. He might be something special in year 2-3. I would take a chance on him in with the first pick in the 3rd round.
The Dan Maguire comparisions do not apply to him. He is one inch taller than Joe Flacco and Cam Newton.

LANGER72
03-30-2012, 03:57 PM
If you have watched his highlights, you would see that he has excellent quickness and agility for a man his size. The arm strength is elite.<br>He is immature and will need some work to bring him up to NFL speed. He might be something special in year 2-3. I would take a chance on him in with the first pick in the 3rd round. <br>The Dan Maguire comparisions do not apply to him. He is one inch taller than Joe Flacco and Cam Newton.

LANGER72
03-30-2012, 03:58 PM
If you have watched his highlights, you would see that he has excellent quickness and agility for a man his size. The arm strength is elite.&lt;br&gt;He is immature and will need some work to bring him up to NFL speed. He might be something special in year 2-3. I would take a chance on him in with the first pick in the 3rd round. &lt;br&gt;The Dan Maguire comparisions do not apply to him. He is one inch taller than Joe Flacco and Cam Newton.

BladeRunner
03-30-2012, 03:58 PM
I really don't think any QB does everything perfect. You can break down the mechanics of any player and find flaws. As one poster responded to the Greg Cosell's analysis....I'm sure many thought Cam Newton would be a bust and Tom Brady drafted as the 199th pick would amount to nothing. You really don't know. Really boils down to whether proper coaching can correct any flaws that may exist.

LANGER72
03-30-2012, 03:59 PM
If you have watched his highlights, you would see that he has excellent quickness and agility for a man his size. The arm strength is elite. He is immature and will need some work to bring him up to NFL speed. He might be something special in year 2-3. I would take a chance on him in with the first pick in the 3rd round. The Dan Maguire comparisions do not apply to him. He is one inch taller than Joe Flacco and Cam Newton.

fishbanger
03-31-2012, 11:04 AM
I think Cousins although not as big throws a better ball. I would pick cousins first. They both need alot of work on their progressions and decision making in the pocket. I think Cousins is tougher and will stick in the pocket like a man whereas Osweiler likes to take off and run too much.

Vaark
03-31-2012, 11:59 AM
Reported on PFT, 8 of 9 teams surveyed consider him a 4th round pick, not a first like Gil Brandt does!

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/31/in-survey-of-nine-teams-eight-call-osweiler-a-fourth-round-prospect/

Roman529
03-31-2012, 12:31 PM
I'd take Osweiler over Foles.....he is pretty mobile for a big guy, he just has to work on his mechanics a little. There are lots of YouTube videos of him throwing the ball to guys like Pflugrad. You don't have to worry about any of his passes getting knocked down at his height.

nato47
03-31-2012, 12:32 PM
Osweiler aka lurch will not be a starter. Mechanics are awful which affects his accuracy. Pick six in the nfl all day.

LikeUntoGod
03-31-2012, 12:56 PM
http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/30/did-strong-workout-vault-qb-osweiler-into-first-round/?module=HP11_hot_topics

Pro Days (http://blogs.nfl.com/category/pro-days/)
Did strong workout vault QB Osweiler into first round? (http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/30/did-strong-workout-vault-qb-osweiler-into-first-round/) http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2012/03/thumb_brandt-1.jpg?m=1351963130g (http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/30/did-strong-workout-vault-qb-osweiler-into-first-round/?module=HP11_hot_topics)
By Gil Brandt (http://blogs.nfl.com/author/gilbrandt/) |

Published: March 30th, 2012 | Tags: 2012 pro days (http://blogs.nfl.com/tags/2012-pro-days/), Arizona State (http://blogs.nfl.com/tag/arizona-state/), Brock Osweiler (http://blogs.nfl.com/tag/brock-osweiler/), Cleveland Browns (http://blogs.nfl.com/tag/cleveland-browns/), Noel Mazzone (http://blogs.nfl.com/tag/noel-mazzone/), Pete Carroll (http://blogs.nfl.com/tag/pete-carroll/), Ryan Tannehill (http://blogs.nfl.com/tag/ryan-tannehill/), Seattle Seahawks (http://blogs.nfl.com/tag/seattle-seahawks/)

One day after Ryan Tannehill wowed NFL scouts and coaches (http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/29/tannehill-runs-4-62-40-yard-dash-at-texas-am-pro-day/) with his workout at Texas A&M, quarterback Brock Osweiler did the same at his pro day, launching himself into first-round consideration.


Representatives from 23 teams were on hand to watch Osweiler work out at ASU on Friday, including many of the same scouts and coaches who observed Tannehill’s workout on Thursday. Seahawks coach Pete Carroll, Browns QB coach Mark Whipple and representatives from the Miami Dolphins were among those in attendance. Osweiler opted not to work out (http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/16/osweiler-sits-out-arizona-state-pro-day/) at Arizona State’s pro day earlier in the month.


Osweiler weighed in at 238 pounds on Friday; his height was not measured, but at the NFL Scouting Combine (http://www.nfl.com/combine) he measured 6-foot-6 7/8. He ran the 40-yard dash in 4.98 and 4.97 seconds indoors on FieldTurf. He threw for those in attendance, but did not do any other drills.


The scripted throwing session was run by Noel Mazzone, who recently left the Arizona State coaching staff to become an assistant at UCLA. Osweiler threw 72 passes, with seven hitting the ground. The seven misses were not, however, an indicator of wildness; his accuracy was very good. He presented himself very well, which is important for a quarterback, and interacted well with his receivers.


Despite his height, he is very flexible and has a solid throwing platform. Mazzone has worked with him to correct a tendency to drop his elbow, which Osweiler avoided doing on Friday.


Based on Friday’s workout, I think Osweiler vaulted himself into the first round on draft day. He will likely work out for a number of teams; there is a lot of excitement surrounding him. His showing Friday was somewhat surprising; I think he exceeded the expectations of everybody in attendance.

Osweiler, an outstanding high-school athlete from Montana, has a lot of upside, and some team with a need at the position will be tempted late in the first round.

LikeUntoGod
04-02-2012, 12:11 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82803fef/article/osweiler-undecided-if-hell-accept-invite-to-draft?module=News_CP

Here's what we know about Brock Osweiler: He's tall (http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d827fff7e) (6-foot-7). He's green (15 career starts at Arizona State). And nobody can come close to a collective agreement as to where he'll be drafted this month.

A standout pro day (http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/30/did-strong-workout-vault-qb-osweiler-into-first-round/) Friday only added to the intrigue around Osweiler. NFL.com's Gil Brandt sees a future starter whose workout moved him into first-round consideration. Others, NFL Network's Michael Lombardi and Charley Casserly among them, consider Osweiler a mid- to late-round talent.

The league office seems to believe Osweiler could go early in the draft, inviting him to sit in the hallowed green room at Radio City Music Hall.

Osweiler called his pro day "risky," saying his program consisted of more difficult throws than typical. He acknowledged the feeling he needed to do something extra to turn skeptics into believers.

BIG_FISH_RI
04-02-2012, 12:56 PM
Well he was invited to NY to attend the draft and the guys that get invited are players in which all teams are polled and asked if this kid is a 1st round player. So SOMEBODY believes the kid will get picked pretty high

LikeUntoGod
04-02-2012, 02:25 PM
I really liked this part...........

Osweiler called his pro day "risky," saying his program consisted of more difficult throws than typical. He acknowledged the feeling he needed to do something extra to turn skeptics into believers.

Geforce
04-03-2012, 03:42 PM
Well he was invited to NY to attend the draft and the guys that get invited are players in which all teams are polled and asked if this kid is a 1st round player. So SOMEBODY believes the kid will get picked pretty high

Osweiler was invited to NY because Gil Brandt thinks he could be a 1st round player. Attending the NFL draft is a media event for the fans not the NFL teams whom I am sure could care less if the player they select attends this event or not.

Mark Herzlich was invited to the attend the draft last year and noone thought he was going to be 1st round or even a Top 50 draft pick.

PyroDOLFAN
04-03-2012, 06:11 PM
Reported on PFT, 8 of 9 teams surveyed consider him a 4th round pick, not a first like Gil Brandt does!

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/31/in-survey-of-nine-teams-eight-call-osweiler-a-fourth-round-prospect/


8 of 9 teams want the other teams to think he is a 4th round pick so they can get him in the 3rd

NorFlaFin
04-03-2012, 06:55 PM
His maturity issues are a bigger red flag then his mechanics.