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phinatic1399
03-31-2012, 12:31 PM
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Eight of nine teams surveyed by NFL Network's Charley Casserly call Arizona State QB Brock Osweiler a fourth-round prospect.

NFL.com's Gil Brandt made waves when he said he expected Osweiler to be a first-round pick following his Friday Pro Day, but it appears the sentiment is not shared by a large majority of the league. Casserly said teams were concerned about Osweiler's decision making and accuracy, as well as his tendency to take too many sacks and "questionable instincts." A "couple of scouts" told the Arizona Republic's Kent Somers Friday they could see Osweiler going as early as round two, but it's extremely unlikely he turns himself into a day-one pick.

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After Arizona State quarterback Brock Osweiler (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7450/brock-osweiler) worked out for scouts on Friday, we passed along the opinion of longtime NFL personnel man Gil Brandt (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/30/gil-brandt-expects-osweiler-to-be-first-round-pick/), who said Osweiler now looks like a first-round draft pick.
Another longtime personnel man, Charley Casserly, strongly disagrees — and says that almost every team he has talked to views Osweiler as a fourth-round prospect.
Asked on NFL Network about Brandt’s first-round assessment, Casserly seemed taken aback by it.
“I’m not sure what that means, to be honest with you,” Casserly said of Brandt’s first-round projection. “I haven’t studied this guy yet but I interviewed nine teams about him. Eight of them had him rated in the fourth round. The workout doesn’t change the rating on the tape. The other team had him rated in the second. Issues about the guy concerning decision making, accuracy, takes too many sacks, questionable instincts. All of those things, to me, are things you see on tape, not in the workout. I’m going to take what those teams said and stick with that.”
NFL Network’s Michael Lombardi agreed with that, noting that Osweiler was only a one-year starter at Arizona State. Lombardi took issue with Brandt’s assessment as well.
“I don’t think you could ever, possibly, consider him a first-round talent,” Lombardi said.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/

Roman529
03-31-2012, 12:40 PM
Brock Osweiler (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7450/brock-osweiler) - QB - Player (http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/clubhouse/nfl/clg/player)

Eight of nine teams surveyed by NFL Network's Charley Casserly call Arizona State QB Brock Osweiler a fourth-round prospect.

NFL.com's Gil Brandt made waves when he said he expected Osweiler to be a first-round pick following his Friday Pro Day, but it appears the sentiment is not shared by a large majority of the league. Casserly said teams were concerned about Osweiler's decision making and accuracy, as well as his tendency to take too many sacks and "questionable instincts." A "couple of scouts" told the Arizona Republic's Kent Somers Friday they could see Osweiler going as early as round two, but it's extremely unlikely he turns himself into a day-one pick.

rotoworld.com

After Arizona State quarterback Brock Osweiler (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7450/brock-osweiler) worked out for scouts on Friday, we passed along the opinion of longtime NFL personnel man Gil Brandt (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/30/gil-brandt-expects-osweiler-to-be-first-round-pick/), who said Osweiler now looks like a first-round draft pick.
Another longtime personnel man, Charley Casserly, strongly disagrees — and says that almost every team he has talked to views Osweiler as a fourth-round prospect.
Asked on NFL Network about Brandt’s first-round assessment, Casserly seemed taken aback by it.
“I’m not sure what that means, to be honest with you,” Casserly said of Brandt’s first-round projection. “I haven’t studied this guy yet but I interviewed nine teams about him. Eight of them had him rated in the fourth round. The workout doesn’t change the rating on the tape. The other team had him rated in the second. Issues about the guy concerning decision making, accuracy, takes too many sacks, questionable instincts. All of those things, to me, are things you see on tape, not in the workout. I’m going to take what those teams said and stick with that.”
NFL Network’s Michael Lombardi agreed with that, noting that Osweiler was only a one-year starter at Arizona State. Lombardi took issue with Brandt’s assessment as well.
“I don’t think you could ever, possibly, consider him a first-round talent,” Lombardi said.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/

Isn't Gil Brandt like 95 years old??? Talk about a relic. I don't think Osweiler is a first rounder, but when I look at him I think he has just as much talent as Flacco and is about an inch taller. I also think he is much more mobile than Flacco. I think if he is around in the 3rd round and we don't get Tannehill or Weeden, then I would grab Osweiler.

ROADRUNNER
03-31-2012, 12:51 PM
All QB will be moving up the draft board this year.............

DKphin
03-31-2012, 05:54 PM
Isn't Gil Brandt like 95 years old??? Talk about a relic. I don't think Osweiler is a first rounder, but when I look at him I think he has just as much talent as Flacco and is about an inch taller. I also think he is much more mobile than Flacco. I think if he is around in the 3rd round and we don't get Tannehill or Weeden, then I would grab Osweiler. I agree. I think the 3rd is the right spot for him.

TedSlimmJr
03-31-2012, 06:21 PM
I couldn't even give him a 4th round grade. Late round flier is the best I could do.

I have serious doubts as to whether or not Osweiler can even make an NFL roster right now. He needs a lot of work mechanically, a lot of time to absorb a sophisticated drop back passing structure, a lot of time learning to read coverages, and a lot of reps.

It depends on where he goes. He'll have some difficulty beating out a lot of NFL #3's for a roster spot from where I stand.

TedSlimmJr
03-31-2012, 07:19 PM
Charlie Casserly has been around the NFL a long time, but I don't trust his evaluation on QB's any more than I do anybody else's... which ain't much. He's a talking head, nothing else.

He clearly says here that, "the workout doesn't change the rating on tape". Which is correct.


However, he said that following this comment, "I haven't studied this guy yet"....

Well Charlie, if you haven't studied him yet, then you don't know what's on the tape that isn't in the workout.


It's the same nonsense he was spewing last year about Gabbert when he said, "I love Blaine Gabbert, even though I haven't seen him play".... Meanwhile trashing Jake Locker.

Hard for Mr. Casserly to recover from that, but he only makes it worse every time he opens his mouth now.

I've never had an evaluation on a player I hadn't studied or seen play.