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TedSlimmJr
04-28-2012, 10:43 PM
I'll use this thread to talk about each team's draft as I get around to them. Starting with the Oakland Raiders. I'll get around to talking about the prospects that went undrafted afterwards.




Oakland Raiders:


#95 Overall -- Tony Bergstrom / OT / Utah

Solid pick here. He was my #10 overall guard prospect and had a 4th round grade on him. The Raiders didn't reach much for Bergstrom here. As soon as I saw him measure in at the Senior Bowl with those 31 3/8" arms, the first thing I said was that he's getting kicked inside. Grade: B



#129 Overall -- Miles Burris / OLB / San Diego St.

Burris was my #15 overall 4-3 OLB prospect and had a 6th round grade on him. He essentially played the 'whip' linebacker position in Rocky Long's defense where he had no gap responsibility most of the time. His job was to blitz off the weakside almost every snap and chase down plays behind the line of scrimmage. Not experienced in coverage. I thought they reached here for Burris, but at least it's not a 1st round kicker. Grade: C-



#158 Overall -- Jack Crawford / DE / Penn St.

Crawford wasn't on my draft board. He's fairly new to football, and none of his athletic ability translates to the football field, to the point of being benched. I don't like this pick at all. Grade: F-



#168 Overall -- Juron Criner / WR / Arizona

My #15 rated WR in the class of receivers that I project as having #2 type WR upside in the NFL, and I had a late 4th / early 5th round grade on Criner. The Raiders made a decent pick here and may have found themselves a potential starting caliber X-receiver down the road. Grade: B+



#189 Overall -- Christo Bilukidi / DE-DT / Georgia St.

This kid was my #25 overall rated DE, and my #9 overall rated potential 5-technique that could draw some interest as a 3-4 DE. I had him higher than a few of the more overhyped prospects at his position. If you're not a fan of I-AA Georgia State, or didn't watch the contest between Georgia St. and Alabama in in 2010, then you wouldn't have any idea who this kid is. He really caught my attention in that game and stood against a supremely talented Crimson Tide squad last year. Developmental player with great upside and proved to me that he could play against elite competition, and looked good at the Players All-Star Classic. I like this pick. Grade: B+



#230 Overall -- Nathan Stupar / OLB / Penn St.

I didn't have Stupar on my draft board. Slightly undersized nickel package type linebacker... but it's the 7th round. Grade: C

Harry_Bagpipe
04-28-2012, 11:02 PM
Unless I missed it in another thread, why aren't you starting with the dolphins? Your opinion is highly valued here as I'm sure you know

TheWalrus
04-28-2012, 11:05 PM
Look forward to hearing your take on all of these picks, Slimm.

Mogwai
04-29-2012, 01:58 AM
Ambitious as hell. Thanks for doing this. As you know, everyone admires your opinion and much more importantly so do I.

sjsharkfanredux
04-29-2012, 03:54 AM
Commend you on the task at hand. Thanks for your hard work, eager to heard your thoughts on the players from this draft.

moinfin
04-29-2012, 05:46 AM
Massive project. Big thanks in advance for your effort

mmikel30
04-29-2012, 12:56 PM
I love what the Bengals have done the past three years! just look at their picks.... value......value....value

Gonzo
04-29-2012, 01:04 PM
Awesome. Looking forward to the rest!

TedSlimmJr
04-29-2012, 01:38 PM
Kansas City Chiefs



#11 Overall -- Dontari Poe / DT / Memphis

This is an obvious boom or bust pick. Athletes of this caliber and size simply don't come around often so I understand the reasoning behind this selection. However, Poe's draft stock is 90% based off combine performance and 10% on film. This is not a 1st round defensive lineman on tape. I had a mid 2nd round grade on Dontari Poe and felt like his upside was worth the risk around that area. The Chiefs reached for the stars here with this pick based on upside and obviously feel like they can develope him further. Grade: C+



#44 Overall -- Jeff Allen / OT / Illinois

Chiefs selected my #8 tackle prospect here who I had a late 2nd round grade on. They got themselves a quality lineman here with starter potential who I've been impressed with for the better part of 2 years at Illinois. Major factor in the success of Illinois running backs Mikel Leshoure, Jason Ford, and Troy Pollard on the ground over the past few seasons... and a big reason why Nathan Scheelhaase has been able to find the time to hang in the pocket and let 49ers 1st round pick A.J. Jenkins use his linear speed to get behind Big-10 secondaries. Grade: B+



#74 Overall -- Donald Stephenson / OT / Oklahoma

Stephenson wasn't on my draft board, but he gained some steam after testing well athletically. I believe better tackles were available here, but the Chiefs need help on the offensive line. I think they reached here for Stephenson based on workout numbers. Grade: D



#107 Overall -- Devon Wylie / WR / Fresno St.

Decent pick here, but went about a round higher than I had him graded. Durability issues and medical is a concern. However, spectacular return man and my #8 overall slot receiver/return specialist. Grade: B-



#146 Overall -- Dequan Menzie / CB / Alabama

I watched Menzie develope into the one of the most underrated Bama DB's in this decade out of JUCO. Came in and was able to pick up Coach Saban's complex defensive schemes and play it to the letter. He always stood out in practice and continued to get better. Very physical and well put together. Terrific tackler. Would move inside and play the slot in our nickel packages. However, the only concern I have with Menzie is speed. It's hard to play CB in the NFL with 4.6 speed. He may project to safety for the Chiefs if he doesn't work out at CB in nickel or dime packages. They got a hard worker here and a good kid. My #25 overall CB prospect who I had a late 6th/early 7th round grade on. I thought they reached a little bit early for him here. Grade: C



#182 Overall -- Cyrus Gray / RB / Texas A&M

My #7 overall scatback who projects as a change-of-pace type back in a RB by committee approach. Gray led aTm in rushing the past 2 seasons while splitting carries with Christine Michael. Very effective pass catcher out of the backfield and kick returner. Solid pick here by the Chiefs. I thought he'd go in the top 150 picks. I think this kid outplays this draft slot. Grade: A-



#218 Overall -- Jerome Long / DT / San Diego St.

I didn't scout this player and will defer to the Chiefs on this pick.



#238 Overall -- Junior Hemingway / WR / Michigan

My #27 WR prospect with #2, 3, or 4 receiver potential, and was selected exactly where I had him graded in the 7th round. Hemingway's numbers suffer a little bit because of the style of offense built around Denard Robinson's skillset. However, Hemingway's cone and shuttle times at the combine were all tops in the class. Knows how to go up and get the football in jump ball situations and shows effective ball skills. Good size at 6'1", 225 pounds and effective stalk blocker in the run game. This is another kid who has the potential to outplay his draft slot if he learns how to use his natural talent to become a better route runner. Grade: B-

TedSlimmJr
04-29-2012, 05:24 PM
Denver Broncos




#36 Overall -- Derek Wolfe / DT / Cincinnati

Wolfe was my #10 rated defensive tackle and I had a late 3rd/early 4th round grade on him somewhere in the 85-100 range overall. Good player who I've been pretty high on for a couple of years. Tested pretty well athletically and looked good in drills down in Mobile for the Senior Bowl. Denver had a need here and I think they reached for him by at about 50 slots. Grade: C+



#57 Overall -- Brock Osweiler / QB / Arizona St.

I had a late round developmental grade on Osweiler. I didn't like his lack of experience, or the lack of sophistication in the drop back passing game of Noel Mazzone's offense. I don't like his mechanics, the way the ball comes out of his hand, or his inability to get his offense in the best play in critical situations. I think his arm strength tends to be a little bit overrated simply due to his rare size for a quarterback. This was a tremendous reach in my opinion, but at least Denver knows that he'll sit behind Peyton Manning for as long as necessary. Grade: D+



#67 Overall -- Ronnie Hillman / RB / San Diego St.

My #4 Change-of-pace back and I had a late 3rd round grade on him. I've always liked squatty, compact backs with a low center of gravity who prove themselves as being capable of carrying the load in college. Hillman is a very patient runner that allows his blocks to develope. Capable of breaking arm tackles and finishes at the end of runs. I like his running instincts and runs stronger than his size indicates. Doesn't put the ball on the ground despite getting a lot of carries. I like this pick although he went about 20 picks higher than I thought. Grade: B+



#101 Overall -- Omar Bolden / CB / Arizona St.

Bolden was my #22 cornerback and had a 5th round grade simply due to injury and not playing a single down of college football last year. However, his talent and ability is much better than where he was selected here. All signs are that he's nearly completely healthy and he's worked extremely hard to get himself prepared for the NFL. Solid pick here and a player that I think contributes soon for Denver's defense. Grade: B-



#108 Overall -- Phillip Blake / C / Baylor

Blake was my #2 center in this draft and had a late 2nd/early 3rd round grade on him. This is what a natural snapper of the football looks like. Surprised to see him still on the board this late. Broncos got a kid with starter qualities here. Grade: A



#137 Overall -- Malik Jackson / DE-DT / Tennessee

Denver is killing it here. This was the #6 defensive end on my board who I had a late 3rd round grade on. I like him more at LDE in a 4-3, although he's an extremely versatile defensive lineman who produces and dominates no matter where he was lined up against SEC competition. I was hoping Miami would take him with their second 3rd rounder prior to the draft. Denver got another steal here in the mid-rounds. If Quentin Coples is better, I can't tell it. Grade: A+



#188 Overall -- Danny Trevathan / OLB / Kentucky

Trevathan was my #12 rated 4-3 OLB prospect and had a 5th round grade on him. He played in a defense last year under Steve Brown and Rick Minter that featured a lot of multiple sets of 4-3, 3-4, and 4-2-5 looks where Winston Guy dropped down and played nickel linebacker. Trevathan is an undersized niche linebacker in the mold of Lavonta David and Sean Spence in terms of not being a fit for every scheme, but he's an incredibly instinctive and tough kid who knows how to tackle ball carriers. He's led the SEC in tackles for the past 2 seasons. At the worst I think Trevathan makes an excellent special teams player. Grade: B

TedSlimmJr
04-29-2012, 11:22 PM
San Diego Chargers




#18 Overall -- Melvin Ingram / DE-OLB / South Carolina

Chargers select my #4 defensive end and #1 3-4 'rush' linebacker here with the 18th pick. I've long felt like Melvin Ingram was one of the top 10 pure talents in this draft, and one of the 5 best athletes regardless of position. Has the movement and open field running skills that can rival many of the RB's in this draft. Probably the most versatile defensive player I scouted in all of college football. He's so good that Spurrier had him on the "Hands Team" to recover onside kicks on special teams.. and in fact went up and recovered a huge one to secure the victory over Georgia. All in all, I think the Chargers got a terrific player here and also a quality kid. He'll probably push former 1st round bust Larry English out of a roster spot. Grade: A



#49 Overall -- Kendall Reyes / DT / UCONN

Reyes was my #7 defensive tackle and had an early 2nd round grade on him, and he came off the board in that range. I actually thought he'd be in play for the Colts at the top of the 2nd round when they chose Coby Fleener. This is a pretty good pick for the Chargers who got him about 15 picks later. Grade: A-



#73 Overall -- Brandon Taylor / S / LSU

They get the #3 safety on my board here who I had graded as an early 3rd round pick which is where he came off the board. I actually like Taylor better than Harrison Smith, who went in the latter part of the 1st round. Terrific player. Does everything above-average and knows how to bring the wood when he hits you, but also a reliable wrap up tackler. Chargers are off to a smokin' start. Grade: A



#110 Overall -- Ladarius Green / TE / UL-Lafayette

The #5 tight end on my board who I had given a mid-4th round grade. The Bolts get good value here for this developmental prospect with some upside as a mismatch against smaller CB's and slower LB's. Won't block you and needs some coaching and added strength....weight. Has time to develope in these areas and learn the trade behind Antonio Gates. Grade: C+



#149 Overall -- Johnnie Troutman / OG / Penn St.

Was never impressed by Troutman and left him off my draft board. Reach. Grade: D



#226 Overall -- David Molk / C / Michigan

Chargers get the #5 center on my board who I had given a 5th round grade late in the process here and get great value. Lack of ideal size pushes him down in the draft, but one of the most scrappy and competitive interior lineman in the draft. Accomplished player and All-Conference selection. Get good value here and a potential starter down the road on the pivot. Grade: B



#250 Overall -- Edwin Baker / RB / Michigan St.

#8 change-of-pace back on my board that I had given a 6th round grade. Came out early and was going to see his carries continue to dwindle like they did this year due to sophomore Le'Veon Bell next year anyway. Average prospect. Worth a late round flyer here for Chargers who got him a little later than I thought he'd come off. Grade: C-

MarshallFin1
04-30-2012, 09:50 AM
broncos drafted no weapons for manning? wow.... that team is not going to do anything. Manning always had weapons in indi.

jmo543
04-30-2012, 10:36 AM
Just wanted to thank you for doing all this. I value your opinion more than most "experts".

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Just curious.... Are you saving Miami for last???

TedSlimmJr
04-30-2012, 12:09 PM
Arizona Cardinals



#13 Overall -- Michael Floyd / WR / Notre Dame

The consensus #2 wide receiver in the draft, and #1 wide receiver in the draft on some draft boards. Issues with alcohol related problems pushed him out of the top 10. Some questions about his speed, but I don't. There's a lot of receivers in this draft who "run better" than Floyd, but they can't do what he can do when the football is in the air. Annihilates the jam at the LOS and will get the 3-step passing game going in Arizona. He'll learn the trade from one of the best professionals in the business with Fitzgerald. Grade: A-



#80 Overall -- Jamell Fleming / CB / Oklahoma

I had a 3rd round grade on Fleming and my #12 rated cornerback. A difference maker in Oklahoma's secondary. Shut down a lot of good college receivers. If I were asked to choose 5 cornerbacks from this draft who I believe will go on to have the best NFL careers, Fleming would have to be one of them. Cardinals get a starter here in my opinion. Grade: A



#112 Overall -- Bobby Massie / OT / Ole Miss

Massie was my #9 rated offensive tacxkle and had an early to mid 3rd round grade on him. Good job by the Cardinals to get him almost an entire round later. Has starter qualities at RT in the right scheme. He played guard at Ole Miss for a while when John Jerry was playing right tackle back in 2009..... when Ole Miss switched 'em up and put Jerry at guard and Massie at tackle, the offensive line took off. The first game under this experiment was when Dexter McCluster rushed for almost 300 yards against Tennessee. Massie continued to man the RT spot for the Rebs, although I never understood why he wasn't playing LT instead of Bradley Sowell... Massie was clearly the better player. Grade: B+



#151 Overall -- Senio Kelemete / OT / Washington

Kelemete is a terrific athlete for his size and has nice quickness. Although he played LT for Washington, I project him to kick inside in the NFL. My #16 rated guard prospect who I had a late round grade on. The Cardinals reach for him early here. Grade: C-



#177 Overall -- Justin Bethel / CB-S / Presbyterian

This is a kid with versatility in the secondary to play cornerback and safety. My #16 rated safety and had a late round grade on him. Bethel performed very well in DB drills at the combine and showed good backpedal and transition ability. Worth a shot here for this small school stud. Grade: C+



#185 Overall - Ryan Lindley / QB / San Diego St.

Lindley could be the steal of the draft at the quarterback position if he irons out his footwork and accuracy issues. My #6 rated quarterback who I had a 3rd round grade on. One of the strongest arms in the draft. There isn't a throw that Lindley can't make. Sometimes he looks like a top 15 pick, other times he looks like a UDFA. It's the inconsistency that pushed Lindley down this far despite having one of the best physical skillsets and bodies of work in this class of QB's. One of the lowest risk/highest reward picks in this draft. The Cardinals get a potential steal at the quarterback position here. Grade: B+



#221 Overall - Nate Potter / OT / Boise St.

Never impressed with Potter and left him off my draft board. Hard to find fault in the pick this late though. Grade: C-

Gonzo
04-30-2012, 01:06 PM
broncos drafted no weapons for manning? wow.... that team is not going to do anything. Manning always had weapons in indi.
Peyton Manning creates weapons. Drafting Allen helps a ton and Wylie is a good pickup if he stays healthy. If Thomas is going to step up as a WR, Manning can make him do it, and Decker had to be the happiest with Manning coming in. If Manning makes a healthy return, which I believe he will, Decker will have a hell of a year. Not to mention they brought in one of his old targets in Tamme.

If Manning is back, that team wins the division (mostly because Norv Turner sucks).

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Just wanted to thank you for doing all this. I value your opinion more than most "experts".

---------- Post added at 02:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:35 PM ----------

Just curious.... Are you saving Miami for last???Looks like he's just starting in the west and working his way east. Probably more to keep it orderly than anything.

TedSlimmJr
04-30-2012, 02:37 PM
St. Louis Rams



#14 Overall -- Michael Brockers / DT / LSU

Rams select my #4 defensive tackle, and #2 rated lineman who could also draw some looks as a potential 5-tech for teams that employ a 30 front. I had a late 1st round grade on Brockers because I do think there's an element of risk involved. However, there's also tremendous upside. This is a player who's only scratched the surface of what he can become in terms of a dominant player up front. At times Brockers completely dominated the POA in the rugged trenches of the SEC, and his domination doesn't show up on the stat sheet. Consistently engaged double teams and won his share. Can 2-gap in any scheme. His best football is clearly ahead of him. Grade: B



#33 Overall -- Brian Quick / WR / Appalachian St.

I had a late 3rd round grade on Quick, who was my #9 rated WR in the category of potential 1a-#2 WR's at the next level. He has everything he needs to eventually live up to this draft slot for the Rams, although they reached for him here by about 50 slots. Grade: C+



#39 Overall -- Janoris Jenkins / CB / North Alabama

The #2 CB on my board who I felt was worth the risk at the top of the 2nd round if he was available. Make no mistake, he's a top 15 talent who's repeated marijuana issues killed his stock. Jenkins is a shutdown cornerback in the truest sense of the word and top flight return man. Great selection for the Rams if he stays clean. His talent is just too much to pass up here. Grade: A-



#50 Overall -- Isaiah Pead / RB / Cincinnati

My #3 scat/change-of-pace back who I had given a 3rd round grade in the 65-80 range overall. Outstanding cutting ability and shiftiness. Should be productive in a committee approach. Doesn't need as much work in pass protection as most rookies. I think the Rams reached for him here by about 15 picks, but they got a nice back. Grade: B-



#65 Overall -- Trumaine Johnson / CB-S / Montana

Versatile defender who could project to corner or safety, although I project him to safety. Terrific size and speed combo, although doesn't always break down correctly to make tackles in the open field. Has held his own when matched up against superior competition on occasion. I had an early 5th round grade on him and feel like the Rams reached significantly for him here. I believe he would have been available later, but it's clear the Rams have identified the better small school prospects and feel comfortable reaching a little to secure the players on their draft board. Grade: C-



#96 Overall -- Chris Givens / WR / Wake Forest

The #5 rated slot receiver on my board that I had given a 3rd round grade comes off the board here to the Rams. They need an infusion of talent in the passing game and get a nice player and terrific value here with Givens. Grade: B+



#150 Overall -- Rokevious Watkins / OT-G / South Carolina

Played offensive tackle and guard for the Game****s and bring some versatility, although I project him inside. #18 rated guard on my board who I had given a late round grade in the 180-200 range overall. Little bit of a reach here for this versatile lineman. Grade: C



#171 Overall -- Greg Zuerlein / K / Missouri Western

I don't scout kickers.



#209 Overall -- Aaron Brown / LB / Hawaii

Didn't scout this player and will defer to the Rams on this selection.



#252 Overall -- Daryl Richardson / RB / Abilene Christian

See above.

Gonzo
04-30-2012, 02:51 PM
#171 Overall -- Greg Zuerlein / K / Missouri Western

I don't scout kickers.


Can't wait for your Jags review :lol:

TedSlimmJr
04-30-2012, 03:37 PM
San Francisco 49ers




#30 Overall -- A.J. Jenkins / WR / Illinois

Ran extremely well in the 40 yard dash, and his linear speed is evident on tape. However, I don't like this pick. Jenkins was the #11 rated wide receiver on my board and I had given him a late 3rd / early 4th round grade. Doesn't understand how to run routes yet.. this is a developmental receiver in my opinion. He doesn't come off the line running his routes full speed, which is the very first thing a good route runner learns is the foundation for quality route running and setting up DB's. Tremendous reach here at the end of the 1st round. Grade: D-



#61 Overall -- LaMichael James / RB / Oregon

49ers take the #1 scatback on my board here with James, who I had given an early 2nd round grade. A top 50 pick on my board who they get 11 picks later and presents excellent value. This is an extremely tough runner for his size that's capable of breaking arm tackles. He runs tough. Highly productive in Chip Kelly's offense. Showed how much he loved football coming back from a horrific elbow injury against Cal that looked like it might even be career threatening. He only missed 2 games. Outstanding special teams ability as a returner. Grade: A-



#117 Overall -- Joe Looney / OG / Wake Forest

The #7 guard on my board who I had given a 3rd round grade. Looney is a kid who I've referred to since last July as one of the most underrate interior offensive lineman that I had scouted in college football. Great value here getting him in the 4th round. Grade: B+



#165 Overall -- Darius Fleming / DE-OLB / Notre Dame

My #13 4-3/3-4 OLB prospect who I had given a 5th round grade. Played with his hand in the dirt for the Irish although he's a limited pass rusher and too small to play the position in the NFL. It'll be hard for him to find a position in the NFL as a full time starter, but could contribute in specific packages. Grade: C-



#180 Overall -- Trenton Robinson / S / Michigan St.

Robinson barely made my draft board, but managed it due to the lack of quality depth in this safety class. My #20 rated safety who I had given a barely draftable grade. Grade: D



#199 Overall -- Jason Slowey / C / Western Oregon

I didn't scout this player and will defer to the 49ers with this selection.



#237 Overall -- Cam Johnson / DE-OLB / Virginia

I don't understand how Johnson fell this far. This could be one of the major steals of the 7th round. I had him as my #10 4-3 defensive end, and #3 'rush' linebacker in a 3-4. This is not the 237th best player in the draft... that I guarantee. Grade: A

Fin Thirteen
04-30-2012, 03:47 PM
If the Niners didn't have the worst draft of the bunch (and a lot of teams drafted pretty well) it was one of the worst, from my perspective.

MarshallFin1
04-30-2012, 04:27 PM
Peyton Manning creates weapons. Drafting Allen helps a ton and Wylie is a good pickup if he stays healthy. If Thomas is going to step up as a WR, Manning can make him do it, and Decker had to be the happiest with Manning coming in. If Manning makes a healthy return, which I believe he will, Decker will have a hell of a year. Not to mention they brought in one of his old targets in Tamme.

If Manning is back, that team wins the division (mostly because Norv Turner sucks).

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Looks like he's just starting in the west and working his way east. Probably more to keep it orderly than anything.

ur about to find out what bs that is. He needs weapons to win, indy had clark/harrison/wayne/garcon, all elite talent. Broncos are gambling by not surroring mannings with toys, its a bad gamble.

TedSlimmJr
04-30-2012, 04:39 PM
Seattle Seahawks



#15 Overall -- Bruce Irvin / OLB / West Virginia

I had Irvin as the #3 4-3 outside linebacker on my board and #1 3-4 outside linebacker, and had a top 40 grade on him. I was surprised to see him go with the 15th overall pick, but not as surprised as most. I've said several times that there's typically only one elite pass rusher in any draft with this type of athletic ability, speed, and COD skills that Irvin brings, and teams tend to take notice. This is one of the 5 best athletes in the draft regardless of position. Won't contribute much on 1st and 2nd down as a run defender in the stack-and-shed mold, but should contribute immediately as a situational pass rusher. Elite first step, quickness, speed, athletic abilty, and change of direction skills. Questionable football IQ, and has some background issues that teams had to sift through. Aldon Smith justified his draft selection as a situational pass rusher as a rookie for the 49ers last year, and I think Irvin could have that type of impact for the Seahawks. I like this pick more than most. Grade: B-



#47 Overall -- Bobby Wagner / LB / Utah St.

I left Wagner off my draft board because I don't like his instincts or lack of ability close to the line of scrimmage. A pure chase linebacker who racks up tackles that are for the most part, meaningless. Not a fan of this pick. Grade: D



#75 Overall -- Russell Wilson / QB / Wisconsin

#11 quarterback on my board and 5th round grade. His success depends largely on the system he's placed in, but there's no question he has a little more to offer than several of the QB's in this class who have prototypical height. Elite intangibles. Great character. Mature kid. Seattle reached for him a little early here. Grade: C+



#106 Overall -- Robert Turbin / RB / Utah St.

#3 feature back on my board who I had a late 2nd/early 3rd round grade on. One of the strongest players in college football. Matched Doug Martin's 28 reps for the most by a RB at this year's combine. Incredibly productive runner with rare size/speed ratio. Runs with good pad level, gets yards after contact, and can run away from you if he gets in the open field. Seahawks get a steal here in the 4th round. Grade: A-



#114 Overall -- Jaye Howard / DT / Florida

Howard was the #20 defensive tackle, and #8 3-4 defensive end on my board should he draw interest from teams that use a 30 front. I had a 6th round grade on him and didn't think he warranted going quite this high. Little bit of a reach here. Grade: C-



#154 Overall -- Korey Toomer / ILB / Idaho

I didn't scout this player and will defer to the Seahawks on this selection.



#172 Overall -- Jeremy Lane / CB / Northwestern St.

See above.



#181 Overall -- Winston Guy / S / Kentucky

#11 safety on my board who I had given a late 4th round grade. Seahawks get tremendous value here for a rugged SEC defender with eventual starter qualities. Guy was always an underrated defender on one of the least talented teams in the SEC. Reminds me of Yeremiah Bell. Grade: B-



#225 Overall -- J.R. Sweezy / DT-DE / N. C. State

#12 defensive tackle on my board and #4 defensive end in a 3-4 front. Productive at N.C. State and tested well athletically at the combine. His tape matches his specs and workout numbers. Solid pick here this late. I had him higher than Jaye Howard who they took about 110 picks earlier. Grade: B-



#232 Overall -- Greg Scruggs / DE / Louisville

See Lane and Toomer above.

Gonzo
04-30-2012, 04:51 PM
ur about to find out what bs that is. He needs weapons to win, indy had clark/harrison/wayne/garcon, all elite talent. Broncos are gambling by not surroring mannings with toys, its a bad gamble.

:lol: Okay. Feel free to explain how those elite talents on Indy couldn't get that team to more than 2 wins. For example, explain how Tamme went from a TE with over 600 receiving yards with Manning to just over 150 in one year without, or how Dallas Clark went from about 50-60 yards per game to 30 in the year without Manning. Talk about elite. Reggie Wayne had his first sub-1000 yard season. Matter of fact, Garcon appears to be the only one that benefited from not having Manning spreading the ball around, though that didn't help him hit the 1000 yard mark last season.

And please explain how those players I mentioned on Denver's offense don't qualify as "weapons." I sure hope you're not one of the few that are touting our receiving corps as anything special... Again, assuming Manning is healthy, that passing game will be fine.

TedSlimmJr
04-30-2012, 06:45 PM
Detroit Lions



#23 Overall -- Riley Reiff / OT / Iowa

Reiff was the #4 offensive tackle on my board had a mid-2nd round grade. Never did I subscribe to the theory that this kid was top 10 worthy. I've seen him struggle too many instances in pass protection, and get knocked flat on his butt when getting out to the second level in the run game by a linebacker giving up 80 pounds to him. He's a good tackle in a rather weak class, but not an elite player by any stretch. Can start bending a little too much from the waist late in games. Should start at some point for Detroit, but even a reach here in the 20's in my opinion. Grade: C+



#54 Overall -- Ryan Broyles / WR / Oklahoma

The #1 slot receiver on my board who I think could also eventually make a decent 1a option in the right offense. I had a late 1st round grade on him healthy, and an early 2nd round grade on him even after his collegiate career came to an end due to a knee injury. If his reps on the bench didn't already give away his work ethic, his ability to run and run well this soon after sustaining the injury should've confirmed it. NCAA record holder for receptions. Landry Jones completely went in the tank when Broyles went down, and so did Oklahoma's season. High character, hard working kid with rare skills as a route runner and returner. Great hands. I was hoping he'd last long enough for Miami to take him with their first 3rd rounder. I should've known better. Grade: A



#85 Overall -- Dwight Bentley / CB / UL-Lafayette

#10 cornerback on my board who I had given a late 3rd round grade. A little undersized, but plays with the heart of a lion. High school teammate of Janoris Jenkins and shares a similar skillset, although does have some issues downfield in coverage....unlike Jenkins. Effective blitzer in an exotic scheme and requisite ball skills to become a contributor soon in the Lions' secondary. I've actually spoken to a coach on the Cajuns' staff who I've known for years and comes from my hometown, who believes Bentley is the best defensive player he's ever been around. Grade: B+



#125 Overall -- Ronnell Lewis / OLB / Oklahoma

I had a 3rd round grade on Lewis and had him as my #7 4-3/3-4 outside linebacker. Great value to get him a round later. Lewis slid a little bit due to academic ineligibility issues. I thought he played out of position lined up at DE for the Sooners, but he still produced. Incredibly strong and athletic with a non-stop motor. He was on my underrated underclassman list in the thread I made back in the summer. Grade: B-



#138 Overall -- Tahir Whitehead / OLB / Temple

My #11 4-3 outside linebacker who I had a 5th round grade on. One of the keys to a stout Temple defense the past few seasons. Improved his draft stock throughout the process. Should contribute in some capacity for Detroit. Grade: C+



#148 Overall -- Chris Greenwood / CB / Albion

I did not scout this player and will defer to the Lions.



#196 Overall -- Jonte Green / CB / New Mexico St.

See above.



#223 Overall -- Travis Lewis / OLB / Oklahoma

Not impressed with Lewis and didn't make my draft board. Grade: D-

TedSlimmJr
04-30-2012, 08:10 PM
Green Bay Packers



#28 Overall -- Nick Perry / DE / USC

Packers get the #1 4-3 defensive end on my board here with the 28th pick. I had a top 15 grade on Perry, I thought the Packers got excellent value here, along with an elite pass rusher. Off the charts lower body explosion, which is the common denominator of all elite pass rushers. Can bend and run the arc reminiscent of Brian Orakpo at that size. Top notch worker and fantastic upper body strength. Interviewed extremely well according to teams who talked to him. Picks like this are why the Packers sustain success. Grade: A



#51 Overall -- Jerel Worthy / DT / Michigan St.

The #2 defensive tackle on my board behind Fletcher Cox, and I had given Worthy a late 1st round grade. Unblockable is what he is when he makes his mind up that he's going to make a play in the backfield, and there's not a darn thing anybody can do about it. Doesn't play with that level of intensity on every snap, which is odd. Just an absolute wrecking ball of destruction when he gets his juices going. Packers can afford to just sit and let the best talent drop to them again and again... Grade: A-



#62 Overall -- Casey Hayward / CB / Vanderbilt

...and again. Hayward was my #4 cornerback and had a late 2nd round grade on him. Leader of a very underrated Vanderbilt defense, and killed many drives with his 13 INT's and 21 PBU's over the past 2 seasons. More of a zone type corner, doesn't have the elite man-to-man skills of Claiborne or Janoris Jenkins.... but probably a more reliable tackler than either. Won't allow himself to be out-hustled in the SEC against superior opponents. Obviously an intelligent Vandy kid, but his football IQ also fits right in with the Packers on defense. Grade: B+



#132 Overall -- Mike Daniels / DT / Iowa

Daniels didn't make my draft board. Undersized and wasn't productive. Puzzling pick here. Grade: D-



#133 Overall -- Jerron McMillian / S / Maine

Didn't scout this player and will defer to the Packers.



#163 Overall -- Terrell Manning / OLB / N.C. State

I didn't have Manning on my draft board and felt it a curious decision to enter the draft early. Grade: C-



#241 Overall -- Andrew Datko / OT / Florida St.

Wasn't on my draft board due to major medical red flags, and wasn't extremely impressed with his effort against Oklahoma DE Frank Alexander even when he was healthy. Probably worth this late of a draft pick for the Packers. Grade: C



#245 Overall -- B.J. Coleman / QB / UT-Chattanooga

#8 quarterback on my board who I had a late 4th/early 5th round grade on. I have some issues with his pocket presence, and always appeared overmatched against top notch competiton...(i.e. Alabama, Auburn, Nebraska, etc.) although some of that is the team around him. The physical tools are there, they just need further development, and there's no better place for him to get it than in Green Bay. Looked good at the East-West Shrine Game. I thought he'd go earlier. Packers will probably develope him for a few seasons and trade him for a 3rd round pick. Grade: B

TedSlimmJr
04-30-2012, 10:51 PM
Minnesota Vikings


#4 Overall -- Matt Kalil / OT / USC

#1 offensive tackle on my board and had a top 15 grade on Kalil, but not top 5. Vikings had a need here and get the top tackle in the draft by trading down and acquiring more picks. Can look like an average college lineman for series at a time due to lack of effort and attempts to skate by on athletic ability. Should be a borderline pro-bowl caliber left tackle if he plays with consistent effort and shores up some technique issues. Also blocks kicks for the Trojans. Not as good of a prospect as former teammate and USC right tackle Tyron Smith in my opinion. Grade: B+



#29 Overall -- Harrison Smith / S / Notre Dame

I had a 3rd round grade on Smith and rated the #5 safety on my board. Looked outstanding in DB drills at the combine and has natural coverage ability. However, it's the tackling that concerns me. I thought the Vikings reached here by about 35 picks to secure the next best safety on their board. Grade: C



#66 Overall -- Josh Robinson / CB / UCF

#15 cornerback on my board who I gave a late 3rd round grade. Blazed a fantastic 40 and it really helped him. The speed is evident on tape, but technique playing the CB position is very inconsistent. Did a decent job of holding A.J. Green in check during the Liberty Bowl in 2010. Does appear to have some stiffness in his hips which dinged his grade to me. Reached a little on Robinson's upside here, but having a deep and talented group of corners is a necessity. Grade: B-



#118 Overall -- Jarius Wright / WR / Arkansas

Solid pick. I had a 3rd round grade on Wright and rated him my #4 slot receiver. I can count the receivers in this draft that run routes the quality of this kid's on one hand. Vikings get good value here and a player who should make the roster and contribute fairly soon in multiple WR sets. Grade: B+



#128 Overall -- Rhett Ellison / ? / USC

Wasn't on my draft board and didn't have a true position at USC. I have a difficult time understanding what his position will be in the NFL. Strange pick here. Grade: F



#134 Overall -- Greg Childs / WR / Arkansas

One of my personal favorite receivers in this draft. Would've like to see Miami grab him in the 4th round but it didn't materialize. My #7 overall wide receiver with 1a potential at the next level. Wasn't healthy during the season after suffering a season ending knee injury in 2010, and I could tell it. I had a top 75 overall grade on him prior to the injury. I think he's in the same class as WR's Rueben Randle and Alshon Jeffery. Attacks the football and doesn't wait for it, goes and gets it. Runs through the ball on slant routes and shows the ability to pick up yards after the catch. You don't find many receivers 6'3", 220 pounds with 4.4 speed that play to their specs at this point in the draft. Vikings got themselves a steal here. Grade: A-



#139 Overall -- Robert Blanton / CB / Notre Dame

Wasn't on my draft board. Grade: D



#175 Overall -- Blair Walsh / K / Georgia

I don't scout kickers.



#210 Overall -- Audie Cole / ILB / N.C. State

Cole didn't make it on my draft board. Odd build for an inside linebacker and looks more like a DE trying to play linebacker. Height causes him have trouble breaking down in the open field and short arms causes him to whiff a lot of tackles he should make. One of the more overhyped LB's in this class that I never really understood the hype. Grade: D



#219 Overall -- Trevor Guyton / DE / Cal

#22 defensive end on my board and barely gave him a draftable grade. Apparently league feels similarly. Worth a shot this late. Grade: C-

MarshallFin1
04-30-2012, 11:24 PM
:lol: Okay. Feel free to explain how those elite talents on Indy couldn't get that team to more than 2 wins. For example, explain how Tamme went from a TE with over 600 receiving yards with Manning to just over 150 in one year without, or how Dallas Clark went from about 50-60 yards per game to 30 in the year without Manning. Talk about elite. Reggie Wayne had his first sub-1000 yard season. Matter of fact, Garcon appears to be the only one that benefited from not having Manning spreading the ball around, though that didn't help him hit the 1000 yard mark last season.

And please explain how those players I mentioned on Denver's offense don't qualify as "weapons." I sure hope you're not one of the few that are touting our receiving corps as anything special... Again, assuming Manning is healthy, that passing game will be fine.

If you want to talk numbers, i suggest talking to a mathematics teacher but if you want to talk football, lets get to it. Those weapons your talking about that had bad seasons when manning went down is not a surprise that they had bad seasons when manning went down. Weapons are only weapons when they have someone delivering the package on time and fast. Look at henne and marshall, they sucked together cause henne could not deliver, while marshall is a probowl wr he had no one to deliver the package to him and he confirmed that in the probowl after his probowl perforamance throwing henne under the bus. Denver offense has weapons? really?? did you not hear skip bayless on espn first take several times in the playoffs going ham on denver crap WRs???? lol there hole offense stinks and somehow tebow was able to do good with there crap weapons. They have a good TE but other than that, NOTHING. Manning is in for a wake up call that he is not god and he cannot win by himself.

damanref10
04-30-2012, 11:26 PM
first of all, well done slimm! talk about one hell of an undertaking and a pleasure to read.


:lol: Okay. Feel free to explain how those elite talents on Indy couldn't get that team to more than 2 wins. For example, explain how Tamme went from a TE with over 600 receiving yards with Manning to just over 150 in one year without, or how Dallas Clark went from about 50-60 yards per game to 30 in the year without Manning. Talk about elite. Reggie Wayne had his first sub-1000 yard season. Matter of fact, Garcon appears to be the only one that benefited from not having Manning spreading the ball around, though that didn't help him hit the 1000 yard mark last season.

And please explain how those players I mentioned on Denver's offense don't qualify as "weapons." I sure hope you're not one of the few that are touting our receiving corps as anything special... Again, assuming Manning is healthy, that passing game will be fine.

So you mean you aren't subscribed to the newest fan club... "The WCO makes elite receivers... we dont need anymore" lol

Gonzo
05-01-2012, 12:11 AM
If you want to talk numbers, i suggest talking to a mathematics teacher but if you want to talk football, lets get to it. Those weapons your talking about that had bad seasons when manning went down is not a surprise that they had bad seasons when manning went down. Weapons are only weapons when they have someone delivering the package on time and fast. Look at henne and marshall, they sucked together cause henne could not deliver, while marshall is a probowl wr he had no one to deliver the package to him and he confirmed that in the probowl after his probowl perforamance throwing henne under the bus. Denver offense has weapons? really?? did you not hear skip bayless on espn first take several times in the playoffs going ham on denver crap WRs???? lol there hole offense stinks and somehow tebow was able to do good with there crap weapons. They have a good TE but other than that, NOTHING. Manning is in for a wake up call that he is not god and he cannot win by himself.Marshall still managed to put up the numbers despite Henne sucking and dropping a couple TDs. And did you just reference Skip Bayless in defense of your opinion? :lol: Oh, man. I thought you wanted to talk football?

And Tebow? Dear god. Actually, he's a perfect example of the effect a good QB has on the rest of the offense vs. what a **** QB does with it. Manning or any other GREAT QB isn't going to turn a **** WR into a HOFer. He will, however, bring their game up to the next level, if only as an illusion. A mediocre WR/TE will suddenly look good (Tamme, Collie, etc.). A **** QB can never do that. Hell, a mediocre QB can't do that. Manning has mediocre to decent WRs and TEs on that team. This year they're suddenly going to appear to have taken it to the next level, with at least one of them getting a pro bowl nod for what Manning brings (again, assuming Manning stays healthy). Mark it down.

Gonzo
05-01-2012, 12:15 AM
first of all, well done slimm! talk about one hell of an undertaking and a pleasure to read.



So you mean you aren't subscribed to the newest fan club... "The WCO makes elite receivers... we dont need anymore" lolWCO solves all problems. Don't need good WRs, hell, you don't even need 11 players on the field. It's strange that more teams don't switch to it, because it seems a lot easier. No talent needed.

damanref10
05-01-2012, 12:32 AM
WCO solves all problems. Don't need good WRs, hell, you don't even need 11 players on the field. It's strange that more teams don't switch to it, because it seems a lot easier. No talent needed.

That guy Walsh has tricked us all....

TedSlimmJr
05-01-2012, 12:59 PM
Chicago Bears



#19 Overall -- Shea McClellin / DE-OLB / Boise St.

The Bears have a need for a pass rusher but I question this selection here considering they players they passed up. McClellin was my #11 defensive end and #4 'rush' linebacker in a 3-4 defense. I had late 2nd round/early 3rd round grade on him. Essentially I had the same grade on him that I had on Cam Johnson, who ended up lasting until the 7th round. Little bit of a reach here for the Bears, but they get one of the more versatile pass rushers in the draft. McClellin has played with his hand in the dirt, from a 2-point stance, and experienced dropping into coverage. Tested a little better athletically than he looks on film and that helped his stock. Grade: C+



#45 Overall -- Alshon Jeffery / WR / South Carolina

#8 wide receiver on my board who I had given a late 2nd round grade. Amidst all the rumors that have gotten started about this kid, his weight, his work ethic, etc... the fact that he can flat out play seemed to get lost in the shuffle somewhere. This is a dominant receiver when he's being fed the rock. Jeffery has the best ball skills in this class of receivers. Incredible hand-eye coordination and ability to track the football. Makes difficult catches look easy. Not a polished route runner yet and tends to round his routes off. Calmed the concerns about his speed by running well at his his pro-day. This is a heck of a selection to get what was once a top 10 talent here in the middle of the 2nd round. Grade: B



#79 Overall -- Brandon Hardin / CB-S / Oregon St.

#13 cornerback on my board had a 3rd round grade on Hardin, although his best position is safety in the NFL. One of the better athletes in the entire draft. A big kid (6'3", 217 pounds) with 4.4 speed and tremendous numbers in all other athletic tests. Didn't play last season due to injury, so durability issues and medical is a concern. Decent pick here in the 3rd round. Grade: C+



#111 Overall -- Evan Rodriguez / H-back / Temple

The #1 H-back on my board who I had given an early 5th round grade. Bears reach to secure him in the 4th round. Good player for Temple who led the team in receptions this past season, and threw a lot of key kick-out blocks on power for Bernard Pierce. Good player. Grade: C+



#184 Overall -- Isaiah Frey / CB / Nevada

I didn't scout this player and will defer to the Bears



#220 Overall -- Greg McCoy / CB / TCU

McCoy didn't make my draft board. Every time I watched him he was getting toasted. Grade: D+

TedSlimmJr
05-01-2012, 02:40 PM
Cincinnati Bengals



#17 Overall -- Dre Kirkpatrick / CB / Alabama

#3 cornerback on my board who I had an early 2nd round grade on. More of a zone corner where he can play with the action in front of him. Some stiffness in his hips during transition. Lengthy, physical corner who's a superb tackler and big hitter. Excellent special teams player for the Tide. Doesn't have the top notch off-man coverage ability to stay in-phase and make plays on the ball in the air, which is why he only had 3 INT's during his career. Will force fumbles when he tackles though. Little bit of a reach by the Bengals to get him this early in the 1st round, but should be an effective starter at some point. Grade: C+



#27 Overall -- Kevin Zeitler / OG / Wisconsin

Bengals nab the #2 guard on my board here with their second 1st round pick. I had an early 2nd round grade on Zeitler, therefore I don't consider this selection much of a reach...maybe by 5 or 6 picks. You rarely go wrong with Wisconsin offensive lineman. Reminds me a little of John Moffitt, who I was extremely high on last year and went to the Seahawks and became an immediate starter. Solid pick here. Grade: B+



#53 Overall -- Devon Still / DT / Penn St.

The #5 defensive tackle on my board who I had a late 1st/early 2nd round grade on. Potential steal here for the Bengals to get him late in the 2nd round. Needs some refinement but could be productive for Bengals as a 3-technique. Grade: A-



#83 Overall -- Mohamed Sanu / WR / Rutgers

The #5 wide receiver on my board with probably #2 potential at the next level, and I had given him a 2nd round grade. Bengals get great value again by getting this kid in the 3rd round. I've compared him to Hines Ward before when he was coming out of Georgia in terms of physicality with the ball in his hands and devastating blocking. He plays angry with or without the ball. Doesn't have blazing speed, but very good feel for the passing game. Experienced and productive as the trigger man for the Wildcat package. Grade: A



#93 Overall -- Brandon Thompson / DT / Clemson

#6 defensive tackle on my board who I had a 2nd round grade on. There was a time when Clemson produced good defensive lineman for the NFL back in the Chester McGlockton, Trevor Pryce days. However, they've struggled with a long line of overrated underachievers in recent years. Thompson is one of the best defensive lineman I've seen come out of Clemson since Trevor Pryce. Has a good chance to break the string of failures that have made scouts skiddish of Clemson defensive lineman. Great fit a 3-technique and should be a nice camp battle between Still and Thompson. This is another nice pick here. Grade: A



#116 Overall -- Orson Charles / TE / Georgia

#7 tight end on my board who I had a 5th round grade on. Bengals reach a little early here for Charles. Effort blocker and strong upper body. Inconsistent hands and can be thrown off his route when chucked by the SAM 'backer. We'll see. Grade: C-



#156 Overall -- Shaun Prater / CB / Iowa

Barely had a draftable grade on Prater. #27 cornerback on my board and had a late round grade on him. Weak tackler and not physical by any stretch. His teammate, Micah Hyde, is the better prospect and we'll talk about him plenty for the 2013 draft. Reach here. Grade: D+



#166 Overall -- Marvin Jones / WR / Cal

#12 wide receiver with #2 potential on my board and had a 4th round grade on Jones. Tendency to fight the ball into his hands and does drop some passes. Ran decent on a stopwatch which helped him. Teammate Keenan Allen is the real stud on that offense which we'll talk about plenty for the 2013 draft. Bengals get good value for Jones here. Grade: B-



#167 Overall -- George Iloka / S / Boise St.

#2 safety on my board behind Mark Barron. I had a 2nd round grade on Iloka and was surprised to see him last this long. This is an absolute steal at this point in the draft. Grade: A



#191 Overall -- Dan Herron / RB / Ohio St.

I had an early 5th round grade on Herron and had him as the #9 feature back on my board. Runs with outstanding pad level and grinds out the tough yards. Strong runner between the tackles. The Bengals may have found a keeper here. Grade: B+

TedSlimmJr
05-01-2012, 03:14 PM
Baltimore Ravens



#35 Overall -- Courtney Upshaw / DE-OLB / Alabama

Ravens draft the #5 defensive end and #2 3-4 'rush' linebacker on my board with third pick in the 2nd round. I had a late 1st round grade on Upshaw and felt his value might even be in the 15-19 range overall. Excellent job by Baltimore to get him here. Ozzie is familiar with who the stud defensive players are at his alma mater. Upshaw was the most dominant defensive player in the country for stretches last season. Extremely violent and powerful hands. Understands leverage and contain. Needs to keep his weight right around 265 to be in peak shape. He just looked like a Raven the whole time. Grade: B+



#60 Overall -- Kelechi Osemele / OT / Iowa St.

The #3 offensive tackle on my board and had a mid-2nd round grade on him. Could kick inside if he struggles at tackle, but shouldn't due to feet and extremely long arms. Comes off the board right about where he should have. Could have come off 10-12 picks earlier. Grade: B+



#84 Overall -- Bernard Pierce / RB / Temple

#4 feature back on my board and had a mid-3rd round grade. Comes off the board to Baltimore right about in that range. Productive runner with upright running style. Understands the concepts of running out of a pro style offense and reading blocks. Once he gets his pad level down he should be good to go. Grade: B-



#98 Overall -- Gino Gradkowski / OG / Delaware

Didn't scout this player and will defer to the Ravens on this selection.



#130 Overall -- Christian Thompson / S / South Carolina St.

This kid didn't make my draft board. Too stiff. Grade: F



#169 Overall -- Asa Jackson / CB / Cal-Poly

Steal. #14 cornerback on my board and I had a 3rd round grade on him. Also brings tremendous return skills on special teams. Slightly undersized corner who's fast, athletic, and has exceptional ball skills. Should contribute in dime packages and cover shifty slot receivers. Grade: B+



#198 Overall -- Tommy Streeter / WR / Miami

#17 wide receiver on my board and had a 6th round grade on him. Tall receiver with straight-linish speed. Only produced for one season. A tall, fast project. Worth the pick here. Grade: C+



#236 Overall -- Deangelo Tyson / DT / Georgia

Wasn't on my draft board. UGA tried to play him at nose tackle in 2010 during the first season they were implementing Todd Grantham's 3-4 defense and he simply wasn't cut out for it. More of a defensive end if anything. Grade: D+

MarshallFin1
05-01-2012, 03:34 PM
any chance u do the dolphins soon tedslim? lol

datruth55
05-01-2012, 03:45 PM
any chance u do the dolphins soon tedslim? lol
By the order of things it looks like it will be a while. He's done the AFC West, NFC West, NFC North and now he's working on the AFC North. Good stuff though, just need some patience.

TedSlimmJr
05-01-2012, 03:49 PM
Cleveland Browns



#3 Overall -- Trent Richardson / RB / Alabama

The best player in the draft alongside Andrew Luck. He has no discernible weakness in his game. Far along even in the aspects that elite rookie RB prospects typically need work.. such as pass protection and blitz pickup/recognition. A rare prospect. One of the best players and people that I've ever seen come through Tuscaloosa. He'll change the entire attitude of the Browns offense and teammates will feed off of him. Grade: A+



#22 Overall -- Brandon Weeden / QB / Oklahoma St.

#2 quarterback on my board and I had an early 2nd round grade on him. The age factor is what it is. I'm always skeptical of Big-12 quarterbacks. However, I like Brandon Weeden as a prospect better than any Big-12 quarterback that's come before him. He does have issues with trusting his arm too much and forcing throws that lead to interceptions. Doesn't have tremendous ball placement.... tendency to throw high and leave his receivers exposed over the middle. Struggled in the Senior Bowl. Comfortable as a gunslinger and taking games on his shoulders. Little bit of a reach in the 1st round, but this is a quarterback league. If they can get 7-8 good years, it was worth the pick. Being able to turn around and hand it to Trent Richardson helps. Grade: B-



#37 Overall -- Mitchell Schwartz / OT / California

Loooooooong reach here. #15 tackle on my board who I had a 5th round grade on. I'm not convinced tackle is his permanent home... could kick inside if he struggles. Somebody really liked this kid. Grade: D-



#87 Overall -- John Hughes / DT / Cincinnati

Wasn't on my draft board. Never stood out when watching Derek Wolfe. Grade: F



#100 Overall -- Travis Benjamin / WR / Miami

Wasn't on my draft board. Very fast and undersized slot receiver/returner if anything. Grade: D-



#120 Overall -- James Michael-Johnson / ILB / Nevada

#4 inside linebacker on my board and had given him a 3rd round grade. Instinctive linebacker with range. Understands how to read his keys and avoid false steps. Should have come off the board earlier and Browns get a potential starter here. Grade: B



#160 Overall -- Ryan Miller / OG / Colorado

Wasn't on my draft board. Too tall and struggles with leverage. Durability issues. Grade: D-



#204 Overall -- Emmanuel Acho / ILB / Texas

#9 inside linebacker on my board and gave him a 6th round grade. Worth a shot here for a kid who can play at least 2 different linebacker positions. Grade: C-



#205 Overall -- Billy Winn / DT / Boise St.

#18 defensive tackle on my board and had a 5th round grade. Good pick here for a kid who' stock fell a little bit because he didn't test as well athletically as he hoped. Overachiever. Grade: C



#245 Overall -- Trevin Wade / CB / Arizona

I had a 5th round grade on Wade and was the #23 cornerback on my board. Underrated kid and a solid pick here for the Browns. Grade: C+



#247 Overall -- Brad Smelley / H-back / Alabama

#3 H-back on my board and had a 6th round grade on him. Clutch player as a Senior for the Tide sneaking out to catch passes, and always gave max effort blocking for our backs in the running game. Has a good shot to make the roster. Grade: C+

TedSlimmJr
05-01-2012, 04:30 PM
Pittsburgh Steelers



#24 Overall -- David DeCastro / OG / Stanford

During DeCastro's sophomore season, I felt like he was the best interior offensive lineman in college football... and one of the best I've ever seen. Compared him to John Hannah who is absolutely the best offensive lineman I've ever seen. I still don't flinch when I make it. DeCastro can be that good. He has no legitimate weakness. I gave him a top 10 overall grade a long time ago. Steelers get the best offensive lineman in the draft with Hall of Fame potential towards the latter portion of the 1st round. Grade: A+



#56 Overall -- Mike Adams / OT / Ohio St.

#7 offensive tackle on my board who I had given a 2nd round grade, which is where he comes off the board here to the Steelers. Inconsistent effort and marijuana issues pushed him down. Looks like a top 15 pick at times, other times looks like he's just going through the motions. One of the few tackles in the draft that have the ability to truly be a dominant player if he played to his potential. Steelers recognize his immense talent and take a shot here. I like this spot for Mike Adams. Grade: B



#86 Overall -- Sean Spence / OLB / Miami

Big reach for Spence here and a curious fit to begin with. #19 4-3 outside linebacker on my board and had a late round grade on Spence. Hits bigger than his size indicates. Not strong in the weight room, and he needs to be in order to make up for his lack of size. I don't understand this pick with better linebackers available. Grade: F



#109 Overall -- Alameda Ta'amu / DT / Washington

Steelers make up for the Spence pick here by getting a defensive tackle in round 4 who I had a 1st round grade on. #3 defensive tackle on my board, and one of the few true nose tackle prospects in this draft. Should take over for Casey Hampton at the 0-tech at some point. Fantastic quickness and movement skills for a player this size. I consider this a major steal. Grade: A+



#159 Overall -- Chris Rainey / ? / Florida

I can't figure the Steelers out here. They keep flip-flopping between some of the best and worst picks in the draft. Rainey wasn't on my draft board. He doesn't have a true position, and has psychopathic behavior in his past. Incredible quickness and change of direction. Goes down with a stiff breeze. Backs like Rainey and Jeff Demps are why Florida's offense instantly became non-competitive in the SEC after Tim Tebow turned pro. They can't run between the tackles. Florida was always at it's best when it had backs who could run between the tackles....Fred Taylor, Eric Rhett, Emmitt Smith, etc. They'll be competitive again when they start recruiting backs who can run between the tackles.



#231 Overall -- Tony Clemons / WR / Colorado

I didn't scout this player and will defer to the Steelers.



#240 Overall -- David Paulson / TE / Oregon

Paulson didn't make my draft board. Grade: D



#246 Overall -- Terrence Frederick / CB / Texas A&M

#17 cornerback on my board and had a 4th round grade on Frederick. Nick pick here this late. Grade: C+



#248 Overall -- Kelvin Beachum / OG / SMU

#13 guard on my board and a late round grade on him. Decent shot at a flyer here by the Steelers. Could eventually develope into a backup quality guard. Grade: C

MiamiMuss
05-01-2012, 04:41 PM
Great Job although I disagree on some but well done,Sir.

Vikings and Bengals did very well in the draft.

j-off-her-doll
05-01-2012, 07:42 PM
Million $ question:

Kevin Zeitler + Brandon Thompson . . . or David DeCastro?

At least they got a really good player with the pick, but when you need an OG how do you move away from DeCastro that late in the 1st?

2413fanphins
05-01-2012, 08:27 PM
I'll be curious to see how the packers draft class pans out. With there knack of building through the draft and retaining players from the draft with little to no free agents, and your having 3 of their 8 picks not on your draft board, and another that you didn't scout.
I think it will be years before we can even get an asessment on B.J. coleman, unless we want to base it all off of preseason action.

nice work man, looks like a lot of man hours will be tied up in this!!!

TedSlimmJr
05-01-2012, 08:32 PM
Houston Texans




#26 Overall -- Whitney Mercilus / DE / Illinois

#9 defensive end on my board and had a 2nd round grade on Mercilus. Questionable pick considering who they passed up, but Texans obviously feel good about his 1 year of production. Relentless motor and gets a lot of his sacks due to second and third effort as opposed to flat out winning at the snap. Not the worst pick here, but not the best either in my opinion. Grade: C+



#68 Overall -- DeVier Posey / WR / Ohio St.

Posey wasn't on my draft board. Not a fan of him off the field or on it. I don't like this pick at all. Grade: F-



#76 Overall -- Brandon Brooks / OG / Miami (Ohio)

#3 guard on my board and had a 3rd round grade on Brooks. Should fit in well with the Texans zone blocking scheme. This kid can flat out play and should've been invited to the combine. Grade: A-



#99 Overall -- Ben Jones / C / Georgia

I had a 6th round grade on Jones and was rated my #6 center. One of the more overhyped offensive line prospects in the draft, and I just never saw it. Looked clueless at times. This is a reach. Grade: D+



#121 Overall -- Keshawn Martin / WR / Michigan St.

I didn't have Martin on my draft board. Slot receiver who could make the roster for Texans, but probably could've had him later. Grade: C-



#126 Overall -- Jared Crick / DE-DT / Nebraska

#14 defensive tackle on my board and #5 3-4 defensive end should he get looks from teams employing a 30 front and gave him a 4th round grade. Struggled with injuries as a Senior but can flat out play. One of the better picks of the entire 4th round. Grade: B



#161 Overall -- Randy Bullock / K / Texas A&M

I don't scout kickers unless they're in high school and in our division.



#195 Overall -- Nick Mondek / OT / Purdue

I didn't scout Mondek and will defer to the Texans on this pick.

2413fanphins
05-01-2012, 08:45 PM
I also caught your micah hyde comment. I will be watching him closely as well. At times, I think he has it, and at times I see him as an absolute liability out there. he makes my head hurt.

Iowa plays a lot of 7 man box. I am hopeful they will switch it up and instead of seeing so much off man, I hope we see some press coverage with micah this year and all the dbs really. Expose any weaknesses so a guy can get a real good evalutation on him. micah has been here long enough he should be stepping up into a leadership role. I've heard tanner miller has been impressive so far this spring. If I could get iowa to blitz once in awhile, i'd be able to see how these dbs do when they are the last line of defense!!! evidently, we don't like to use the B word here in iowa...

TedSlimmJr
05-01-2012, 09:12 PM
Indianapolis Colts



#1 Overall -- Andrew Luck / QB / Stanford

Colts opt to start off a new era here by selecting a rare quarterback prospect with the #1 overall pick, just like they did in '98 when they took Peyton Manning, and decided to open a new chapter of Colts football. Exact same thing I would've done. Grade: A+



#34 Overall -- Coby Fleener / TE / Stanford

They go right back to Palo Alto and select Luck's favorite weapon in the passing game. #1 tight end on my board and had a mid-late 1st round grade on Fleener. Deceptive speed and soft hands. Looks like he's gliding on the field.... natural runner. Chemistry with Luck is obviously built-in. Great pick here. Grade: A



#64 Overall -- Dwayne Allen / TE / Clemson

The #2 tight end on my board and gave him an early 2nd round grade. Colts land the top 2 TE's in the draft back-to-back in the 2nd round. Colts started Manning off with the 1-2 punch of Ken Dilger and Marcus Pollard early in his career. They'll do the same here with Luck. I thought Allen would go about 15 picks earlier. Grade: A-



#92 Overall -- T.Y. Hilton / WR / FIU

Not exactly Marvin Harrison as a route runner, but few ever have been. Hilton was my #3 slot receiver and gave him an early 3rd round grade. One of the most dangerous kick returners I've seen in years at the college level. Speed to burn, and operated mainly out of the slot for FIU... running past secondaries. Single handedly won FIU some games they shouldn't have won. Needs to carry the football better in traffic. Explosive. I like this pick. Grade: B+



#136 Overall -- Josh Chapman / DT / Alabama

#13 defensive tackle on my board and #2 nose tackle behind Ta'amu. I gave Chapman a 4th round grade. Immovable in the run game. I've never seen him move an inch. Played most of the season on a torn ACL and meniscus. The words "Pluck and Grit" in Alabama's fight song describe Chapman. Colts should be able to structure their 30 front around this 2-down plugger at nose tackle. These first 5 picks are terrific. Grade: B-



#170 Overall -- Vick Ballard / RB / Mississippi St.

Ballard was the #6 feature back on my board and had a late 4th round grade on him. Will make the Colts roster and contribute. Fantastic nose for the endzone. Grade: C+



#206 Overall -- LaVon Brazill / WR / Ohio

#12 slot receiver on my board and gave him a 5th round grade. Another kid who should make the roster and has upside as a developmental receiver. Probably should have come off the board earlier. Colts get another nice receiver here. Grade: C+



#208 Overall -- Justin Anderson / OT-G / Georgia

Anderson wasn't on my draft board. Other lineman I liked better. Grade: D



#214 Overall -- Tim Fugger / DE / Vanderbilt

Wasn't on my draft board but improved his stock by testing well in pre-draft process. Really only produced as a Senior and didn't impress me on tape. Grade: D



#253 Overall -- Chandler Harnish / QB / Northern Illinois

Harnish was my #9 quarterback and had a late 4th/early 5th round grade on him. Highly athletic, productive, and a winner for Northern Illinois... clutch. 4 year starter and one of the better collegiate bodies of work in this class. Struggled with some injuries earlier in his career, but not a major red flag. He's been on my underrated list for a long time. Another underrated MAC quarterback who was overlooked by the Big-10 and had something to prove. Played in an unconventional offense and will need development on fundamentals. I liked him better than a lot of quarterbacks in this draft. This Mr. Irrelevant is anything but irrelevant. He should eventually get a chance in this league, although a backup is his most likely destination. I've always compared his floor to Tyler Thigpen, and ceiling to Tony Romo. You can't possibly do better with the last pick in the draft. Grade: A

TedSlimmJr
05-01-2012, 09:57 PM
Jacksonville Jaguars



#5 Overall -- Justin Blackmon / WR / Oklahoma St.

Jags traded up to take the #1 wide receiver on most boards with the 5th overall pick. Tremendous route runner with a large catch radius. Utilizes some advanced techniques to beat press coverage... sinks his hips and explodes out of breaks to create separation, and eats up a DB's cushion for the speed cut. Seems to be a good kid off the field other than one alcohol related incident. Will start week 1 for Jaguars. Grade: A-



#38 Overall -- Andre Branch / DE / Clemson

Wasn't on my draft board. Completely invisible in the Orange Bowl while his defense was busy giving up 70 points. The latest in a long line of overrated Clemson defensive ends. I don't like the pick. Grade: F



#70 Overall -- Brian Anger / P / California

I don't scout punters... but Jags obviously feel they need a good one with Blaine Gabbert.



#142 Overall -- Brandon Marshall / OLB / Nevada

#16 4-3 outside linebacker on my board and gave Marshall a 5th round grade. Decent pick here who should contribute at some point. Grade: C+



#176 Overall -- Mike Harris / CB / Florida St.

About the area where I had Harris graded. #28 cornerback on my board and had a 7th round grade. Didn't time well on a stopwatch and that hurt his already teetering draft stock. Does have pretty good fluidity in his hips and above-average ball skills. 14 PBU's, 5 INT's, and 2 forced fumbles over the past 2 seasons for the Seminoles. Worth a shot at this point. Grade: C+



#228 Overall -- Jeris Pendleton / DT / Ashland

Didn't scout this player and will defer to Jaguars on this selection.

TedSlimmJr
05-01-2012, 10:17 PM
Tennessee Titans



#20 Overall -- Kendall Wright / WR / Baylor

Titans select the #3 wide receiver on my board here who I had given a mid-late 1st round grade. Plays faster than he times. Blocks on the perimeter for the numerous bubble screens required in Art Briles' offense. Explosive after the catch. Reliable hands. Tremendous vertical threat. Was the star of Robert Griffin's pro day in my opinion. Grade: A-



#52 Overall -- Zach Brown / LB / North Carolina

Brown wasn't on my draft board because I'm not fond of linebackers who avoid contact. Great athlete. Bad football player. Grade: F-



#82 Overall -- Mike Martin / DT / Michigan

#11 defensive tackle on my board and had a 3rd round grade on Martin. Improved his stock after testing at or near the top in literally every athletic test at the combine for his position. Solid pick here for the Titans. Grade: B+



#115 Overall -- Coty Sensabaugh / CB / Clemson

#16 cornerback on my board and had a 4th round grade on Sensabaugh. Has all the physical skills to stick around for a while in the NFL. Smart player on film and solid pick here for the Titans. Grade: C+



#145 Overall -- Taylor Thompson / DT-DE / SMU

Didn't scout Thompson and will defer to Titans.



#190 Overall -- Markelle Martin / S / Oklahoma St.

#9 safety on my board and had a 4th round grade on Martin. Questionable football IQ in certain instances dings his grade for me. Wasn't the best player in the Oklahoma St. secondary, but solid pick here at this point in the draft. Grade: C+



#211 Overall -- Scott Solomon / DE / Rice

#14 defensive end on my board and had a 5th round grade on Solomon. Good lower body explosion for a pass rusher, but slow and not a very good athlete. Injury issues. Worth a flyer this late. Has been productive during his career for Owls. Grade: C

dolfan_101
05-01-2012, 10:20 PM
colts really did nail it with their first four picks. i like that they went and 3 weapons while in the beginning process of a complete rebuild, just further points to the evolution of the game IMO. keep em coming slimms.

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 10:24 AM
Atlanta Falcons



#55 Overall -- Peter Konz / C / Wisconsin

I had a late 1st round grade on Konz and figured he might come off the board earlier than this as the #1 center on my board. Falcons get tremendous value here getting him an entire round later at the end of the 2nd. A true road grader in Paul Chryst's IZ, and his bread-and-butter is mauling run defenders. Should fit right in with the inside zone running game in Atlanta. Grade: A-



#91 Overall -- Lamar Holmes / OT / Southern Miss

Holmes was the #14 offensive tackle on my board and had a 5th round grade on him. Falcons reached here for Holmes, but could end up worth this pick if they can develope him. Got run ragged by Vinny Curry. Did a solid job against Sammy Brown in the C-USA Championship Game. Long arms which will help him at the tackle spot. Helped himself in the East-West Shrine Game. Grade: C+



#157 Overall -- Bradie Ewing / FB / Wisconsin

I typically don't put true West Coast fullbacks on my draft board, and Ewing wasn't on it. However, he would've been the only true West Coast fullback that I would've been interested in taking in this draft. Another staple of Paul Chryst's offense at Wisconsin and was an outstanding receiver catching passes out of the backfield in the flat from Russell Wilson. Good blocker who helped Montee Ball become a Heisman candidate. Falcons should find a way to utilize his ability. Grade: C



#164 Overall -- Jonathan Massaquoi / DE / Troy

#19 defensive end on my board and had a 6th round grade on him. Probably good value here at this slot for a kid who could become a rotational pass rusher. Followed in the footsteps of productive Troy pass rushers DeMarcus Ware, Osi Umenyiora, Brandon Lang, and Cameron Sheffield. Falls right in the middle between the latter two and Ware/Umenyiora as a prospect. Grade: C+



#192 Overall -- Charles Mitchell / S / Mississippi St.

Mitchell didn't make it on my draft board. Just didn't show me enough and I tend to give Mississippi St. defenders the benefit of the doubt. Grade: D



#249 Overall -- Travian Robertson / DT / South Carolina

#27 defensive tackle on my board and gave him a 7th round flyer grade. That's essentially what he is here. Grade: C

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 10:51 AM
Carolina Panthers



#9 Overall -- Luke Kuechly / ILB / Boston College

#1 inside linebacker on my board and had a top 10 grade on Kuechly. This was my pick for Miami at #8 had I been the one pulling the trigger. Instincts and football IQ are at an elite level that you don't often see. Rare size/speed ratio for a linebacker. Threatened to break the NCAA record for tackles after only 3 seasons as a starter. Best coverage linebacker in the draft. Will make the front calls and play the cat and mouse game with the elite centers in the league. Panthers get one of the truly elite defensive players in the draft here. Grade: A+



#40 Overall -- Amini Silatolu / OG / Midwestern St.

#4 guard on my board and had a 3rd round grade on this small school stud. Completely dominated the players lined up across from him at that level to the point that it was unfair. I've watched over 300 snaps on this kid and count the number of times he didn't pancake his man and still have fingers left. Played left tackle but will kick inside at the next level. I'd get him on the field immediately and work the kinks out from there if I were the Panthers since they reached a bit for him here. Grade: C+



#103 Overall -- Frank Alexander / DE / Oklahoma

#17 defensive end on my board and had a 5th round grade on him. Has gotten the better of tackles like Riley Reiff and Andrew Datko. Little bit of a reach this early but could be a rotational pass rusher. Grade: C+



#104 Overall -- Joe Adams / WR / Arkansas

I had a late 2nd/early 3rd round grade on Adams and was the #2 slot receiver on my board behind Ryan Broyles. Didn't time as well on a stopwatch as he plays in pads. I tend to trust what I see in pads here. Dynamic punt returner. Not a polished route runner and hands aren't always reliable. Drops some passes that are dead on the money. Solid pick to get him here. Grade: B-



#143 Overall -- Josh Norman / CB / Coastal Carolina

Didn't have him on my draft board. Hard to play corner in the NFL as slow as he is. Grade: F



#207 Overall -- Brad Nortman / P / Wisconsin

I don't scout punters.



#216 Overall -- D.J. Campbell / S / California

Campbell wasn't on my draft board. Grade: D

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 11:04 AM
New Orleans Saints



#89 Overall -- Akiem Hicks / DT / Regina (Canada)

#15 defensive tackle on my board and had an early 5th round grade on him. Was one of the top JUCO defensive tackles in the country at one point and signed with LSU before transferring due to recruitment violations. Probably would've been a 2nd round pick had he been able to develope at LSU. Grade: C+



#122 Overall -- Nick Toon / WR / Wisconsin

I had a 6th round grade on Toon and was the #19 wide receiver on my board. Effort blocker in the run game and fairly average at everything else. Doesn't do anything great or terrible, although I thought he was a slight reach here. Grade: C



#162 Overall -- Corey White / S / Samford

This kid was essentially right around in my back yard in Birmingham and I had never heard of him. Obviously will defer to the Saints with this selection.



#179 Overall -- Andrew Tiller / OG / Syracuse

Didn't scout this player and will defer to the Saints.



#234 Overall -- Marcel Jones / OT / Nebraska

Wasn't on my draft board due to being a heavy legged waist bender in pass protection. Decent run blocker for the Huskers. Grade: D+

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 11:43 AM
Tampa Bay Buccaneers



#7 Overall -- Mark Barron / S / Alabama

Consensus top safety in the draft and Tampa traded up for him after realizing Trent Richardson wasn't going to happen. I had a top 20 grade on Barron and the dropoff after him to the rest of the safety class was a significant one in my estimation. Battled through some injuries during his career and the level of his play never suffered because of it... and it endeared him to scouts and personnel executives who value this type of throwback attitude. Tore his pec muscle in the first half of the Iron Bowl in 2010 and had to be replaced in the secondary by a walk-on named Will Lowery. What ensued was one of the great collapses I've ever seen by an Alabama defense. Cam Newton had been held in check and harrassed into jitters while Bama built a 24-7 halftime lead. 21 second half points later, Alabama walked off the field in defeat by the score of 28-27 at the hands of our hated in-state rival due to blown coverages and mis-communication in the secondary. Barron was the quarterback of the defense after Rolando McClain moved on to the NFL. If not for the injury, Barron would've declared as a Junior and entered the draft. A leader and key cog on a defense that won 2 National Championships, and one of the best defenses I've ever seen in college football. Grade: A-



#31 Overall -- Doug Martin / RB / Boise St.

The #2 feature back on my board behind Richardson and had a late 1st/early 2nd round grade on him. Does everything well. Compact, powerful runner with deceptive speed and agility. Most productive back catching passes out of the backfield in the Chris Peterson era at Boise St. I like this pick. Grade: A-



#58 Overall -- Lavonte David / OLB / Nebraska

The #2 4-3 outside linebacker on my board and had a 2nd round grade on him. Undersized niche linebacker who's not a fit for every scheme. Best fit was in a Tampa-2 style defense in my opinion. Instinctive, reads keys well and flies to the football. Reliable wrap up tackler. Great value here for the Bucs. Grade: A



#140 Overall -- Najee Goode / ILB / West Virginia

Goode wasn't on my draft board. Reach here. Grade: D



#174 Overall -- Keith Tandy / CB / West Virginia

#19 cornerback on my board and had a 4th round grade on him. This pick made more sense where they took Najee Goode. Tandy is a solid tackling cornerback and breaks down well in the open field. Will stick his nose in there and support the run on the perimeter, which is a staple of Tampa-2 style corners. Very nice pick here. Grade: B-



#212 Overall -- Michael Smith / RB / Utah St.

The #5 change-of-pace back on my board and had a 4th round grade on him. I've touted this kid as one of the most underrated backs in the draft for several months. Split carries with Robert Turbin at Utah St. Breaks arm tackles and incredibly explosive runner. Compact. Averages right at 7 yards/carry for his career. Always reminded me of Willie Parker. Grade: B-



#233 Overall -- Drake Dunsmore / H-back / Northwestern

#2 H-back on my board and had a 5th round grade on him. Tested very well athletically and should be able to make the roster and develope. One of Dan Persa's favorite targets. Grade: C+

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 12:58 PM
Dallas Cowboys



#6 Overall -- Morris Claiborne / CB / LSU

Cowboys trade up to take the #1 cornerback on my board, and what has long been the best defensive player in the draft in my opinion. Rangy, athletic, shutdown cornerback who plays like he's 6'3". Long arms for his frame which allows him to pluck the ball out of the air... and knows what to do with it after he does. Can take to the house. As good a hips and transition as you'll ever see on a defensive back. Also a dangerous kick returner. Only gave up 1 touchdown reception all season to Stedman Bailey. Needs to improve his tackling somewhat, but should be a pro-bowler. I like the Dale Carter comparison made by Mr. Hunt. Grade: A



#81 Overall -- Tyrone Crawford / DE / Boise St.

#8 defensive end on my board and had a 2nd round grade on him. Surprised to see him still available at this point in the draft. Dallas gets a potential steal here. Grade: B+



#113 Overall -- Kyle Wilber / OLB / Wake Forest

#5 outside linebacker on my board and had a 3rd round grade on him. Wilber has been on my underrated list for the better part of 6 months. Nice change of direction and always around the football. Brings some versatility. Cowboys get excellent value again with this pick. Grade: B-



#135 Overall -- Matt Johnson / S / Eastern Washington

Johnson wasn't on my draft board and never stood out to me when scouting Eastern Washington DT Renard Williams. Grade: D



#152 Overall -- Danny Coale / WR / Virginia Tech

I had a 4th round grade on Coale and rated the #14 wide receiver on my board. Helped his draft stock by testing well in the pre-draft process and pretty good value here. Grade: C+



#186 Overall -- James Hanna / TE / Oklahoma

#14 tight end on my board and barely earned a draftable grade, mainly on athletic upside due to testing at the top of the chart in every athletic event he participated in. Doesn't play to those specs. Drops a lot of balls. Worth a shot here. Grade: C-



#222 Overall -- Caleb McSurdy / ILB / Montana

Didn't make it on my draft board. Grade: D+

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 01:23 PM
New York Giants



#32 Overall -- David Wilson / RB / Virginia Tech

The #2 change-of-pace back on my board and had a 2nd round grade on him. Explosive lower body and it translates onto the field. Slashing runner that likes to bounce it outside and get the corner, but will make himself smaller and get into a crease off the hip of his blocker a little reminiscent of a young Thurman Thomas. Can catch passes out of the backfield in the flat and might be a 3rd down type back early in his career until he polishes up on pass protection and ball security. Typical of Virginia Tech backs, doesn't carry the football the way he should and had fumble issues. VT backs haven't worked out in the NFL and Wilson will have to break that streak. Reach here at 32 overall. Grade: C+



#63 Overall -- Rueben Randle / WR / LSU

The #6 wide receiver on my board and gave him a 2nd round grade. Suffered a little because of the QB issues at LSU. Tremendous vertical threat, and strong catching passes underneath... will fight for extra yardage. Not explosive in and out of breaks and sub-par route runner. Will get to go up against his teammate Morris Claiborne in the NFC East. Grade: B-



#94 Overall -- Jayron Hosley / CB / Virginia Tech

The #5 cornerback on my board and gave him a late 2nd/early 3rd round grade. I tried to get the point across that this kid was a top 100 pick even with the rumors of the failed drug test at the combine. A little undersized, but athletic and competitive. Fluid hips and top-notch ball skills. Led the country with 9 INT's as a sophomore. Returns punts on special teams. Grade: C+



#127 Overall -- Adrien Robinson / TE / Cincinnati

#11 tight end on my board and had a 6th round grade on him. Little bit of a reach here for a kid who mainly played the H-back position for Cincinnati, but does have some in-line experience. Decent kick out blocker and improved his stock at his pro-day. Might develope, might not. Has some skills to work with and Giants tend to develope tight ends. Grade: C-



#131 Overall -- Brandon Mosely / OT / Auburn

One of the few draftable players from Auburn, and by far the best one. The #5 tackle on my board I had a 2nd round grade on Mosely. Size, arm length, athletic ability, experience, durability, battle tested, and impressive on film. There wasn't a lot not to like with this kid. I figured he'd last until the 5th round and had Miami taking him there... he didn't quite make it that far. Should make a solid pro for the Giants. Grade: A-



#201 Overall -- Matt McCants / OT / UAB

#13 tackle on my board and gave him a 5th round grade. Developmental tackle with all the tools to be a starter. Struggled mightily with Vinny Curry. Seemed a little distracted at the Senior Bowl. Easily worth a pick at this point. Grade: C+



#239 Overall -- Markus Kuhn / DT / N.C. State

Wasn't on my draft board. Grade: D-

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 01:54 PM
Philadelphia Eagles



#12 Overall -- Fletcher Cox / DT / Mississippi St.

The #1 defensive tackle on my board since the moment he declared and had a top 15 grade on him. Athetic freak of nature, and made note of that back in July in my underrated underclassman thread. Saban recruited him to play the 'jack' linebacker position at Alabama that Courtney Upshaw ended up playing for us. Continued to grow into his frame without losing the speed and athletic ability.... only got better as a player. Versatile and played all over the defensive line for Mississippi St. One of the few college lineman that can play all 4 of the basic blocks (base, down, reach, pass pro). Motor never stops. Grade: A+



#46 Overall -- Mychal Kendricks / ILB / California

The #2 inside linebacker on my board and had a late 1st/early 2nd round grade on Kendricks. Top notch instincts and continuously fought his way through blocks and made plays at the LOS. Reads his keys, avoids false steps, always around the football, and takes pure angles. The main thing separating him from Kuechly is height difference in my opinion. Great linebacker. Grade: A



#59 Overall -- Vinny Curry / DE / Marshall

The #2 defensive end on my board and I had given him a 1st round grade. The most productive defensive lineman in the draft. I had Miami taking him at the top of the 2nd round. Eagles get an absolute steal here in my opinion. Grade: A+



#88 Overall -- Nick Foles / QB / Arizona

I had a 5th round grade on Foles and the #10 quarterback on my board. Andy Reid will develope him and work out the kinks. Struggled as a Senior some due to two freshman offensive tackles, and his main target, Juron Criner missing a few games. Reid's accelerated quarterback development regimen could justify this reach. Grade: C+



#123 Overall -- Brandon Boykin / CB / Georgia

#7 cornerback on my board and gave him an early 3rd round grade. Fast, athletic corner with elite kick return ability is another steal at this point for Eagles. Grade: B+



#153 Overall -- Dennis Kelly / OT / Purdue

Didn't scout this player and will defer to Eagles.



#194 Overall -- Marvin McNutt / WR / Iowa

#18 wide receiver on my board and gave him a 6th round grade. Not explosive and struggles to separate against top cornerbacks. Came off the board about where he should have. Grade: C



#200 Overall -- Brandon Washington / OG / Miami

#8 guard on my board and gave him a 3rd round grade due to versatility among other things. This is excellent value here at this point in the draft. Grade: B+



#229 Overall -- Bryce Brown / RB / Kansas St.

Brown wasn't on my draft board due to everything under the sun. Worth a late round flyer if he focuses on football. Grade: C+

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 02:16 PM
Washington Redskins



#2 Overall -- Robert Griffin / QB / Baylor

The #4 quarterback on my board and gave him a 2nd round grade. I'm not sold on this kid despite the catchy nickname that's generated so much hype for him and the goofy socks. He'll either prove me wrong or prove me right. In the meantime... Grade: C+



#71 Overall -- Josh LeRibeus / OG / SMU

I didn't scout this player and will defer to the Redskins with this selection.



#102 Overall -- Kirk Cousins / QB / Michigan St.

#7 quarterback on my board and gave him a late 4th/early 5th round grade based mostly on character and leadership. Has some physical tools, but I've seen way too much of him on the field to overlook his flaws. Grade: C+



#119 Overall -- Keenan Robinson / OLB / Texas

The #4 4-3 outside linebacker on my board and gave him a 3rd round grade. This is pretty good value here for Robinson. Intelligent, high character kid with some leadership qualities. Grade: C+



#141 Overall -- Adam Gettis / OG / Iowa

Gettis wasn't on my draft board. Reach based on workout numbers. Grade: D



#173 Overall -- Alfred Morris / RB / Florida Atlantic

#10 runningback on my board and had a 5th round grade on Morris. This is the best pick the Redskins have made so far in my opinion. Compact, powerful runner who seeks out contact, finishes runs, and punishes would be tacklers. Shorter version of Ronnie Brown in his running style. I've always felt like he was one of the more overlooked backs in this class. Grade: B-



#193 Overall -- Tom Compton / OT / South Dakota

#10 offensive tackle on my board and had a 4th round grade on him. Redskins make two solid picks back-to-back late in the draft. Developmental tackle with starter potential. Grade: B-



#213 Overall -- Richard Crawford / CB / SMU

Make that three solid picks late in the draft, and this one might be the best of the three. Crawford was the #11 cornerback on my board and had a late 3rd round grade on him. Major steal at this point in the draft. Grade: A-



#217 Overall -- Jordan Bernstine / CB / Iowa

Didn't make it on my draft board. Grade: D-

jim1
05-02-2012, 04:37 PM
Houston Texans




#26 Overall -- Whitney Mercilus / DE / Illinois

#9 defensive end on my board and had a 2nd round grade on Mercilus. Questionable pick considering who they passed up, but Texans obviously feel good about his 1 year of production. Relentless motor and gets a lot of his sacks due to second and third effort as opposed to flat out winning at the snap. Not the worst pick here, but not the best either in my opinion. Grade: C+



#68 Overall -- DeVier Posey / WR / Ohio St.

Posey wasn't on my draft board. Not a fan of him off the field or on it. I don't like this pick at all. Grade: F-



#76 Overall -- Brandon Brooks / OG / Miami (Ohio)

#3 guard on my board and had a 3rd round grade on Brooks. Should fit in well with the Texans zone blocking scheme. This kid can flat out play and should've been invited to the combine. Grade: A-



#99 Overall -- Ben Jones / C / Georgia

I had a 6th round grade on Jones and was rated my #6 center. One of the more overhyped offensive line prospects in the draft, and I just never saw it. Looked clueless at times. This is a reach. Grade: D+



#121 Overall -- Keshawn Martin / WR / Michigan St.

I didn't have Martin on my draft board. Slot receiver who could make the roster for Texans, but probably could've had him later. Grade: C-



#126 Overall -- Jared Crick / DE-DT / Nebraska

#14 defensive tackle on my board and #5 3-4 defensive end should he get looks from teams employing a 30 front and gave him a 4th round grade. Struggled with injuries as a Senior but can flat out play. One of the better picks of the entire 4th round. Grade: B



#161 Overall -- Randy Bullock / K / Texas A&M

I don't scout kickers unless they're in high school and in our division.



#195 Overall -- Nick Mondek / OT / Purdue

I didn't scout Mondek and will defer to the Texans on this pick.

I love a bunch of your comments about several players, great work. But I respectfully disagree quite a bit about Devier Posey.

MarshallFin1
05-02-2012, 04:44 PM
ted slimm i like your analysis, thanks for this thread. I gotta disagree with you on the rg3 grade though, i give him an A.

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 04:48 PM
New England Patriots



#21 Overall -- Chandler Jones / DE / Syracuse

I had a 2nd round grade on Jones and rated him the #7 defensive end on my board. NFL Draft Advisory Board gave him a 3rd round grade...but his stock improved due to testing well at the combine. Patriots reached a little for the upside that Jones brings with him. Strong at the point and delivers a jolt on contact when hand placement is correct. Uses his hands well and best move is the bull rush. Won't turn and run the arc like a Nick Perry will. Struggles a little bit to redirect. Missed 5 games this year because of a knee injury. Has the potential to play up to this draft slot. Grade: B



#25 Overall -- Dont'a Hightower / ILB / Alabama

The #3 inside linebacker on my board and gave him a 2nd round grade. Always shot the correct gap to stuff runs at the LOS for little or no gain in key situations. Can move out and rush the passer with his hand in the dirt at DE, and did it quite well. I've seen him rag-doll 330 pound D.J. Fluker in practice. Has destroyed several college offensive tackles with his bull rush playing with his hand in the dirt. Belichick will enjoy finding several different ways to utilize the versatility his new toy on defense brings. Leader and team player. Grade: B



#48 Overall -- Tavon Wilson / S / Illinois

Puzzling pick here. Wilson wasn't on my draft board and I specifically looked at him several times. The kid who always stuck out to me in Illinois' secondary was Terry Hawthorne, who I'll talk about more in preparation for the 2013 draft. For now, this is a stretch to me. Grade: D-



#90 Overall -- Jake Bequette / DE / Arkansas

#12 defensive end on my board and had a mid-4th round grade on Bequette. A kid we've talked about in the draft forum for a while as an underrated player. Decent pick here. Grade: C+



#197 Overall -- Nate Ebner / S / Ohio St.

Wasn't on my draft board. Probably a special teams player is my guess. Grade: D



#224 Overall -- Alfonzo Dennard / CB / Nebraska

The #8 cornerback on my board and had a 3rd round grade on him. No doubt he would've been selected around that range had he not been arrested for punching a police officer. Physical corner who specializes in press coverage and jamming receivers...disrupting and preventing routes from developing. Likes to throw punches, should probably consider boxing if NFL career doesn't materialize. Could be a nice grab here in the 7th round. Grade: C+



#235 Overall -- Jeremy Ebert / WR / Northwestern

#6 slot receiver on my board and had a 5th round grade on Ebert. Talked about him several times as one of the most underrated receivers in the Senior class. Blazing speed and productive in Big-10. Has the ability to be a major steal here in the mold of a faster Wes Welker in that system. Grade: A-

2413fanphins
05-02-2012, 04:59 PM
Is it just me, or do you just despise any and every player from Iowa? I think just about every one of them I have read, you've given a poor grade or didn't have them on your board at all.. for example the mcnutt selection.
you give him a 6th round grade, and he was the 18th WR on your charts..
he goes in the 6th round as the 26th wideout drafted and you gave them a C grade? isn't that a good pick, considering they took him exactly right where you thought he should go? I think i don't understand your grading scale. Are you grading the pick based on where the team took them in respect to their value, or is the grade strictly for the player and players potential as you see it?

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 05:20 PM
New York Jets



#16 Overall -- Quinton Coples / DE / North Carolina

#3 defensive end on my board and had a top 20 grade on him. Jets get good value here for versatile defensive lineman. Motor issues concern me less than the fact I question his ability to be a truly dominant pass rusher on the edge. Could be Greg Ellis, or could be Ebenezer Ekuban. Probably falls somewhere in between. If Rex can't get it out of him then I just don't think it's there. Grade: B



#43 Overall -- Stephen Hill / WR / Georgia Tech

I had a late 1st/early 2nd round grade on Hill and was rated the #4 wide receiver on my board. Explodes off the line of scrimmage and incredible workout numbers are visible on tape... although the production isn't quite there due to style of offense. Drops some easy passes and will learn how to run routes. Will go up and get the ball in 50/50 situations. Required to go into the middle of the field and root out linebackers in Paul Johnson's double-wing attack. Sky is the limit for this kid. Nice pick here. Grade: B+



#77 Overall -- Demario Davis / OLB / Arkansas St.

The #1 4-3 outside linebacker on my board and had an early 2nd round grade on him. The leader and tone setter for one of the better defenses in college football that nobody knows about. Tested off the charts athletically in most every event at the combine for this class of linebackers. Should become an NFL starter at some point. Grade: A-



#187 Overall -- Josh Bush / S / Wake Forest

Bush didn't make it on my draft board. Grade: D-



#202 Overall -- Terrance Ganaway / RB / Baylor

#2 short yardage back on my board and had a 6th round grade. Productive on the IZ running against soft defenses and 5-6 men in the box. Tested and ran pretty good for back his size. Will find the going gets much tougher where he's headed. Grade: C-



#203 Overall -- Robert T. Griffin / OG / Baylor

Wasn't on my draft board. Grade: D-



#242 Overall -- Antonio Allen / S / South Carolina

#17 safety on my board and had a late round grade. More of an in-the-box safety/linebacker who played the 'spur' position in Ellis Johnson's defense, which is a base 4-2-5 package. Suspect in coverage but a strong tackling safety who's best close to the LOS. Grade: C+



#244 Overall -- Jordan White / WR / Western Michigan

I had a 4th round grade on White and rated him my #7 slot receiver. Fantastic hands and one of the better route runners in this class. More of a #3 or #4 receiver in the NFL. Slow and a little on the old side for a rookie. Suffered 2 ACL injuries in college. I admire the kid's guile to come back from both. Production is eye-popping. Grade: B-

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 05:38 PM
Is it just me, or do you just despise any and every player from Iowa? I think just about every one of them I have read, you've given a poor grade or didn't have them on your board at all.. for example the mcnutt selection.
you give him a 6th round grade, and he was the 18th WR on your charts..
he goes in the 6th round as the 26th wideout drafted and you gave them a C grade? isn't that a good pick, considering they took him exactly right where you thought he should go? I think i don't understand your grading scale. Are you grading the pick based on where the team took them in respect to their value, or is the grade strictly for the player and players potential as you see it?


Both. What my rankings don't necessarily indicate is the size of the gap between each one. The size of the gap boils down to how I feel about the prospects. I don't particularly care to explain in length the size of the gap that I have between each and every player on my draft board. You should be able to determine some of that for yourself simply based on how I've talked about these prospects for going on 9 months now.

I don't have anything against Iowa players. I either like them as a prospect or I don't just like any other program. I liked Pat Angerer, Bryan Bulaga, Adrian Clayborn, A.J. Edds, Bradley Fletcher, Charles Godfrey, Shonn Greene, Aaron Kampman, Tony Moeaki, Amari Spievey, Dallas Clark, Ricky Stanzi, and Marshall Yanda... all Iowa players. I had a high grade on Derrell Johnson-Koulianos until he got busted for being the biggest drug king-pin west of the Mississippi.

I'm fond of Keenan Davis in next year's class of Senior wide receivers.



I just couldn't give Marvin McNutt anything but a late round grade based on his talent. I tried to tell you that a few months ago in the Marvin McNutt thread but you wouldn't pay attention. You're probably not paying attention now.

Gonzo
05-02-2012, 05:47 PM
#43 Overall -- Stephen Hill / WR / Georgia Tech

I had a late 1st/early 2nd round grade on Hill and was rated the #4 wide receiver on my board. Explodes off the line of scrimmage and incredible workout numbers are visible on tape... although the production isn't quite there due to style of offense. Drops some easy passes and will learn how to run routes. Will go up and get the ball in 50/50 situations. Required to go into the middle of the field and root out linebackers in Paul Johnson's double-wing attack. Sky is the limit for this kid. Nice pick here. Grade: B+



My favorite part of the Draft Chat we had going here during the second round was when Hill went from being a good WR prospect that several were pining for with our pick to absolute **** and a guaranteed bust the minute we passed and the jests picked him. :lol:

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 06:12 PM
Buffalo Bills



#10 Overall -- Stephon Gilmore / CB / South Carolina

This was a reach in my opinion, but I think he'll be a good player. #6 cornerback on my board and had an early 3rd round grade on Gilmore. Fast, athletic, and a terrific tackler. However, he just doesn't have the ball skills to warrant this high of a pick. Has starter potential and should be a solid player in the Bills secondary. I wouldn't have taken him this high. Grade: C+



#41 Overall -- Cordy Glenn / OT-G / Georgia

Glenn was the #2 tackle on my board and I had a 1st round grade on him. Took a game to get acclimated playing left tackle for the first time and struggled against Boise St. in the season opener, but probably had the best and most consistent film from that point forward of all the offensive tackles I looked at. Unbelievable athlete for his size. Incredibly strong upper body and adequate feet to play tackle. Looked more comfortable at left tackle to me once he adjusted than he did even at guard for Georgia. Struggles some to get out of his stance quick enough playing guard and loses leverage. I like him better at tackle where he can use those long arms and sweet feet to absorb pass rushers in vertical pass sets. Steal here for Buffalo. Grade: A



#69 Overall -- T.J. Graham / WR / N.C. State

The #9 slot receiver on my board and had a 5th round grade on Graham. Bills reached here for another kid who's been on my underrated list for a long time. Will struggle getting off press and needs to be in the slot where he has a two way go. Dangerous kick returner, but a reach here in the 3rd round. Grade: C+



#105 Overall -- Nigel Bradham / OLB / Florida St.

The #6 4-3 outside linebacker on my board and had a 3rd round grade on him. Vines for arms that will help him fight off blocks. Fast and athletic. Will deliver the big hit when give an opportunity. Not as good of a pick as when Buffalo drafted Sam Cowart out of FSU in the 2nd round of the 1998 draft, but could develope into a starter and didn't reach for him here. Grade: B-



#124 Overall -- Ron Brooks / CB / LSU

#26 cornerback on my board and had a 6th round grade on him mainly due to outstanding speed. One of the 2 or 3 fastest cornerbacks in this draft. Was overshadowed by Morris Claiborne, Tyran Mathieu, and Therald Simon in LSU's secondary, but Brooks made some big plays of his own (see Ole Miss game). Can blitz off the edge in nickel packages. Probably a nickel/dime package corner and special teams player for Bills. Grade: C+



#144 Overall -- Zebrie Sanders / OT / Florida St.

I had a late 4th round grade on Sanders and rated him the #12 tackle on my board. Was always a little overrated, but decent pick here. Just don't ask him to cut block. Grade: C+



#147 Overall -- Tank Carder / ILB / TCU

#6 inside linebacker on my board and had a late 4th round grade on Carder. Heart and soul of Gary Patterson's 4-2-5 defense and plays with his hair on fire. Shoots gaps and makes plays, although sideline to sideline range isn't elite. Pretty solid pick to get Tank here. Grade: B-



#178 Overall -- Mark Asper / OG / Oregon

Asper wasn't on my draft board. Grade: D



#251 Overall -- John Potter / K / Western Michigan

Nice kicker.

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 06:16 PM
My favorite part of the Draft Chat we had going here during the second round was when Hill went from being a good WR prospect that several were pining for with our pick to absolute **** and a guaranteed bust the minute we passed and the jests picked him. :lol:


They always do. It's a mystery how some of these organizations even field a team selecting the garbage that Miami passes on.

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 06:41 PM
Miami Dolphins


#8 Overall -- Ryan Tannehill / QB / Texas A&M

Dolphins manage to stay put and have the best quarterback in the draft fall into the laps at #8. Ireland is a genius. Grade: A+



#42 Overall -- Jonathan Martin / OT / Stanford

Best left tackle in the draft somehow slips through the cracks for the Dolphins to land him at the top of the 2nd round. The black cloud is lifting. Grade: A+



#72 Overall -- Olivier Vernon / DE-OLB / Miami

Yeeeeay boyzz! Mo' playaz frum da "U" dats wut im talmbout. Grade: A+



#78 Overall -- Michael Egnew / TE / Missouri

Ireland land a sure fire Hall of Fame weapon in the passing game that will send Rex and Bill Belichick into early retirement in the 3rd round. Grade: A++



#97 Overall -- Lamar Miller / RB / Miami

OMGZZZ dis kid is so fast! All about da "U"!



#155 Overall -- Josh Kaddu / LB / Oregon

Ireland nabs the best linebacker off the West Coast just outside the top 150 picks. He's "killin it". Grade: A+



#183 Overall -- B.J. Cunningham / WR / Michigan St.

Ireland's genius again surfaces late in the draft by grabbing the next Muhsin Muhammad out of Michigan St. in the 6th round. Grade: A+



#215 Overall -- Kheeston Randall / DT / Texas

Ireland strikes black gold here in the late rounds by stealing a Richard Seymour clone. Grade: A+



#227 Overall -- Rishard Matthews / WR / Nevada

Dolphins get the next great receiver from Nevada here with their last pick, and wrap up the best draft in franchise history. Grade: A+

















That's all 'til next year....

J. David Wannyheimer
05-02-2012, 06:42 PM
Hey, you forgot to put a grade on Lamar Miller!

fish_fan
05-02-2012, 06:44 PM
Well Played... I'd love to read your real thoughts though.

EvilDylan
05-02-2012, 06:46 PM
Wtf?!?!

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 06:46 PM
Hey, you forgot to put a grade on Lamar Miller!


A+ Have you seen his highlights?

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 06:49 PM
Well Played... I'd love to read your real thoughts though.


No you wouldn't.

CaneHammer
05-02-2012, 06:55 PM
No you wouldn't.

Not that I am special, but it was the only reason I followed the thread. Thanks for your efforts though.

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 07:43 PM
Championship teams are built in large part through the UDFA's. They have a choice of where they want to sign based on where they feel they have the best shot to make a roster.

These are the top UDFA signings by each team according to my draft board...



Patriots:

Brad Herman / TE / Iowa

Brandon Bolden / RB / Ole Miss



Dolphins:

Jonas Gray / RB / Notre Dame

Derek Moye / WR / Penn St.

Kelcie McCray / S / Arkansas St.

Jeff Fuller / WR / Texas A&M

Derek Dennis / OG / Temple



Jets:

G.J. Kinne / QB / Tulsa

Marcus Dowtin / LB / North Alabama

Donnie Fletcher / CB / Boston College



Bills:

N/A



Bengals:

Tony Dye / S / UCLA

Kashif Moore / WR / UCONN

Rodney Stewart / RB / Colorado



Browns:

Tashaun Gipson / CB / Wyoming

Garth Gerhart / C / Arizona St.

Bert Reed / WR / Florida St.



Ravens:

Charles Brown / CB / North Carolina

Nick Provo / TE / Syracuse

Bobby Rainey / RB / Western Kentucky

Ishmaa'ily Kitchen / NT / Kent St.

Elliot Henigan / DE-DT / UAB



Steelers:

Marquis Maze / WR / Alabama

Adrian Robinson / DE-OLB / Temple



Colts:

N/A



Jaguars:

Mike Brewster / C / Ohio St.

Jarrett Boykin / WR / Virginia Tech

Nelson Rosario / WR / UCLA



Texans:

Desmond Morrow / CB-S / Toledo

Case Keenum / QB / Houston

Davin Meggett / RB / Maryland

Dwight Jones / WR / North Carolina



Titans:

William Vlachos / C / Alabama

Brandon Barden / TE / Vanderbilt



Broncos:

Duke Ihenacho / S / San Jose St.

Gerell Robinson / WR / Arizona St.

Coryell Judie / CB / Texas A&M

Jerry Franklin / ILB / Arkansas

Anthony Miller / TE / California

Jamie Blatnick / DE-OLB / Oklahoma St.

Eric Page / WR / Toledo



Chargers:

N/A



Chiefs:

Tim Biere / TE / Kansas

Neiko Thorpe / CB-S / Auburn

Dexter Heyman / LB / Louisville



Raiders:

Aaron Henry / S / Wisconsin

Dominique Hamilton / DT / Missouri

Lucas Nix / OG / Pittsburgh



Cowboys:

Darrell Scott / RB / South Florida

Ronald Leary / OG / Memphis

Jeff Adams / OT / Columbia



Eagles:

Chris Polk / RB / Washington

Chase Ford / TE / Miami

Phillip Thomas / S / Syracuse



Giants:

Janzen Jackson / S / McNeese St.



Redskins:

Chase Minnifield / CB / Virginia

Lance Lewis / WR / ECU

Darius Hanks / WR / Alabama

Lennon Creer / RB / Louisiana Tech



Bears:

James Brown / OG-T / Troy

Adrien Cole / ILB / Louisiana Tech

Adonis Thomas / RB / Toledo



Lions:

Carmen Messina / LB / New Mexico



Packers:

Sean Richardson / S / Vanderbilt

Don Barclay / OT-G / West Virginia



Vikings:

Quentin Saulsberry / OG / Mississippi St.

Derrick Coleman / RB / UCLA

Tydreke Powell / DT / North Carolina



Buccaneers:

Leonard Johnson / CB / Iowa St.

Dan Persa / QB / Northwestern

Morkeith Brown / DE / Temple

Tramaine Thomas / S / Arkansas



Falcons:

Jerrell Harris / OLB / Alabama



Panthers:

Tauren Poole / RB / Tennessee



Saints:

Johnny Thomas / S / Oklahoma St.

Jerico Nelson / S / Arkansas



Cardinals:

N/A



49ers:

Al Netter / OG-T / Northwestern

Jewel Hampton / RB / Southern Illinois

Tony Jerod-Eddie / DT / Texas A&M



Rams:

DeAngelo Peterson / H-back / LSU

Sammy Brown / OLB / Houston

Austin Davis / QB / Southern Miss

Noah Keller / ILB / Ohio



Seahawks:

Jermaine Kearse / WR / Washington

Lavasier Tuinei / WR / Oregon

DudeleBroski
05-02-2012, 08:01 PM
I knew you were fos when I saw the A+ next to Tannehill.

Did you make a similar thread last year?

Wildbill3
05-02-2012, 08:05 PM
actually ted, I would like to see your real thoughts, because unlike the "we hate it" or "we love it" crowd (of which I fall into the second group) getting an objective educated opinion is nice too. so please without the sarcasim?

fish_fan
05-02-2012, 08:17 PM
I really would like to see your thoughts. I'm used to disappointment in life. I follow the Dolphins after all :)

While I think this was one of the better drafts we have had in a awhile, as a long time lurker on these forums, I've always thought you were pretty knowledgeable on this stuff and value your opinion.

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 09:01 PM
Miami Dolphins


#8 Overall -- Ryan Tannehill / QB / Texas A&M


why I like this pick: Simple... because it's a quarterback. I always said that I'll forgive busting out on a franchise quarterback in the 1st round more than I would to continuously pass them up. Miami had to take a chance. It's a quarterback league and either the coaching staff, the quarterback himself, or both have to be fairly inept in order to experience little or no success with the way the league is structured now. Tannehill was required to make more NFL caliber throws than just about any quarterback in this draft. By "NFL caliber", I'm referring to the timing and difficulty of the throw based on being tied in to his footwork and progression. The most impressive thing Tannehill may have ever done was lead aTm in receptions while playing the receiver position. That's just a phenomenal achievement for a kid who was biding his time waiting for a chance to play his true position. I'm a big fan of Ryan Tannehill and always have been. I would want to see this kid succeed no matter where he went. The fact that proven quarterback developers are in place helps this pick tremendously. That wouldn't be the case with the previous staff. As soon as Miami drafted him, I said that everyone needed to get behind this kid and support him because he deserves it... not because Ireland drafted him. If they bring him along properly and let him sit for at least half the season if they intend to move Matt Moore around the deadline, etc.... this pick could pay off for Miami in the long run. The list of positives and reason for optimism in regards to Tannehill is long and I've pointed them out throughout this entire process.... going back to his Junior season.

why I don't like this pick: Simple.... because Miami was forced to pass up elite talent because they put themselves in a position where they were forced to reach for a quarterback who I had a 2nd round grade on and generate some buzz, ticket sales, etc. I said it all along and it didn't change when Miami drafted him. Tannehill is a 1st round pick physically, although one thing I've always valued in a quarterback was clutch in his gut. A kid who wins games he's not supposed to win and makes everyone around him better. Tannehill hasn't shown that ability. Miami is reaching for something that hasn't manifested itself on the field yet... even in college. I never thought Tannehill would bust. If anything I feel like he'll be more of a game manager. He's still lacking in situational football knowledge due to inexperience. I would've taken Luke Kuechly here and not apologized for it.

Overall: It was probably the right pick because of the fit, and general desperation in the fanbase. It makes a little more business sense right now than it does from a pure football standpoint, but that could change... and that's why these coaches get paid a lot of money. Whether Tannehill pans out or not, it's probably going to get Miami headed in the right direction for once either way. If he fizzles out, you keep drafting them until you hit. It doesn't set you back any further than sifting through the trash heap of other team's scraps. Grade: B+




(I'm going to do each one of Miami's picks individually)

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 09:23 PM
#42 Overall -- Jonathan Martin / OT / Stanford


why I like this pick: First of all, because it fills a major need. Secondly, because the single most impressive performance I witnessed all season by an offensive tackle was turned in by Jonathan Martin when he pitched a shutout against the #1 defensive end on my board... Nick Perry. Martin dominated Perry in that game and didn't allow Perry to even get started. Third, because Martin still has room to get so much better. He could've stayed for his Senior season, gotten stronger, and been a top 10 pick next year. Lastly, he's insurance for Jake Long, and comes much cheaper. Intelligent Stanford kid, and I want smart players at the line of scrimmage.

why I don't like this pick: Because I didn't think it was necessary to address the right tackle position this early. It makes more sense to address the right tackle position later because quality players of starter quality were going to be available. Miami had to pass up an elite pass rusher to make this pick. It is vital that Martin work hard in the weight room and get his strength up. It usually takes a season or so for most college offensive lineman to get their weight room strength up enough to match the strength and endurance of rugged NFL veterans that have done it for years. The line of scrimmage is where the biggest difference in strength and endurance shows up between college and the NFL.

Overall: Miami got a top 10 player in next year's draft with the 42nd pick in this year's draft. It's up to Jonathan Martin to make sure he fulfills his immense potential. It's there. Grade: A

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 09:47 PM
#72 Overall -- Olivier Vernon / DE-OLB / Miami


why I like this pick: They didn't reach for him by much and came off the board about where I figured he should. Shows the ability to set the edge in run defense, and has enough bend to get underneath a tackle and run the arc to get pressure when allowed to rush the passer. If he played every game like he did against Georgia Tech as a freshman, he'd be a 1st round pick. Versatile, and his best football should be ahead of him. Has the lower body explosion and athletic ability to be a difference maker.

why I don't like this pick: Not much. I've talked about Vernon's upside going all the way back to my underrated underclassman thread in July.

Overall: Solid player with legitimate upside and got value with it. Has the potential to be a Shaun Phillips type pass rusher in the AFC. Grade: B+

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 10:06 PM
#78 Overall -- Michael Egnew / TE / Missouri


why I like this pick: He was the #3 tight end in the draft on my board and I figured the 3rd round was where he'd come off. Egnew is precisely the type of flex TE that I've talked about Miami was always missing and typically avoided in the draft. He plays essentially like a WR split out operating in space. He creates a matchup problem with cornerbacks and linebackers in man coverage. Coaches can split him out in the "X" receiver position and run some X-iso where he's isolated on a smaller cornerback along the sidelines, or motion him there and have a linebacker follow him. A player like this makes your personnel packages capable of dictating to the defense. Egnew's height and linear speed is what you must have in a seam threat that forces safeties to play you honest. Athletically he tested at or near the top in virtually every event at the combine for TE's. Production is top notch.

why I don't like this pick: Only plays at one speed and isn't explosive changing directions. A stalk blocker who needs refinement in the aspect of blocking.

Overall: Nice pick and solid value here. Coaches will coach him up in the blocking department. You can't coach a kid to be 6'5", 250 pounds with 4.6 speed and soft hands. Grade: B+

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 10:32 PM
#97 Overall -- Lamar Miller / RB / Miami


why I like this pick: #5 runningback on my board who I had a 4th round grade on, and Miami trades up to get him at the top of the 4th round. Fastest RB at the combine, and perhaps the fastest RB in this draft. Not a small scatback. Has enough size that he should be a fairly durable back, especially with his running style. Explosive and brings some versatility as a kick returner. Produced some big games against legitimate competition. Accelerates to top speed in about 4 strides. Top end speed makes him a threat to score if he gets a crease. Low mileage and should be able to contribute in a committee approach if being featured is too much of a work load.

why I don't like this pick: He wasn't the top RB on the board in my opinion. The best back on the board at the time was Robert Turbin. Miller has average vision, doesn't always run tough, needs a lot of work in pass protection, has some ball security issues, and has legitimate medical red flags. I never subscribed to the theory that this kid was a 1st round pick, or the #2 RB in the draft. There's a reason why all the backs I had ahead of him on my board went ahead of him (except for Turbin who went 9 picks later) and he fell to the 4th round. Teams weren't going to let a 1st round runningback and the #2 RB in the draft continue falling all the way through the 4th round.

Overall: Miami got Lamar Miller about where they should have to begin with. He could be nice player in a RB by committee approach where he had a defined role and too much isn't asked of him. Legitimate home run threat and should return kicks and contribute on special teams... although some of that will be negated due to the league trying to eliminate kick returns all together. Grade: C+

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 10:58 PM
#155 Overall -- Josh Kaddu / OLB / Oregon


why I like this pick: I've had my eye on Josh Kaddu all season, and felt like he was one of the more underrated linebackers in the draft. I had a late 4th/early 5th round grade on him in December and it stayed consistent. Rangey, athletic linebacker who has a knack for splash plays and getting into the backfield. I like his effort and closing speed.

why I don't like this pick: Inconsistent. Can disappear and get caught in the wash when things aren't working up front. Doesn't need to be taking on blocks. Not a "Mike" linebacker... which is what I would've been hunting for in this draft. I agree with those that didn't like passing up Tank Carder.

Overall: Miami didn't reach for him, although an argument could be made that a true middle linebacker should've been on the docket in this draft if it came to pursuing a linebacker. A little bit better player than people think. Grade: C+

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 11:16 PM
#183 Overall -- B.J. Cunningham / WR / Michigan St.


why I like this pick: I had a 5th round grade on him for one. Several times mentioned him as one of the more underrated receivers in the Senior class since last summer. Michigan St.'s all time leader in career receptions and receiving yardage despite not always having the most consistent quarterback play. A program that's had Plaxico Burress, Mark Ingram, Derrick Mason, Charles Rogers, Muhsin Muhammad, and Andre Rison all come through there. He has a great work ethic and takes pride in it. Showed he belonged down at the East-West Shrine Game.

why I don't like this pick: Not much. Miami didn't reach for him and got a receiver capable of contributing in this offense.

Overall: Miami's already lackluster receivers better not sleep on this kid. He's capable of snatching their job away from them. I think he probably makes the final 53. Grade: B-

dolfan_101
05-02-2012, 11:28 PM
This deserves main forum sticky, hands down.

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 11:29 PM
#215 Overall -- Kheeston Randall / DT / Texas


why I like this pick: Miami got tremendous value here with Randall. Athletically he tested and measured either superior or right there with all the DT's at the combine who went in the first 3 rounds like Kendall Reyes and Derek Wolfe. I had him as my #8 defensive tackle and #3 5-technique. A 2nd round grade. Looked like a top 50 pick as a Junior.

why I don't like this pick: Randall doesn't produce up to his ability for some reason, but it's not lack of effort from what I can tell. Tailed off as a Senior despite playing with 2 incredibly talented defensive ends.

Overall: I don't buy that this kid is the 215th best player in the draft. He obviously slid for some reason. If he plays like he did as a Junior, he'll make the team and contribute. I can't find any way around giving a solid grade to this pick at this point in the draft. Grade: B-

TedSlimmJr
05-02-2012, 11:50 PM
#227 Overall -- Rishard Matthews / WR / Nevada


why I like this pick: I had him as the #10 wide receiver on my board and a 3rd round grade. I first discovered Rishard Matthews last season when I found Virgil Green. We talked about Matthews several times last year as a kid to look forward to in the 2012 draft when it was being asserted that Colin Kaepernick didn't have anyone to throw to. He's still developing as a route runner but has a nice frame and sneaky speed and explosion. Production actually increased by a lot after Kaepernick turned pro.

why I don't like this pick: None.

Overall: I think Matthews has an even better shot to make the roster because of punt return ability on special teams combined with his developing receiving skills. These two receivers may never be elite, but there's absolutely nothing to prevent them from making the roster and actually upgrading the depth of the unit. Quality player here in my opinion. I'll go down with him. Grade: B

Vaark
05-03-2012, 12:12 AM
Teddy. when was the last year that you gave the Fins draft this (obviously) high a grade?

Wildbill3
05-03-2012, 12:28 AM
so b+?

it's good to know for this draft at least my personal thoughts matched up with someone who really puts some thought and analysis into this. Thanks for the work you put into this, and damned if I didn't fall for the initial grades you had on the dolphins lol.

j-off-her-doll
05-03-2012, 07:04 AM
Kind of a follow-up to Wildbill's question. I know you had some real issues with the 2011 Draft (D. Thomas among others), but if I remember right, you agreed with the Pouncey pick, and there were some other players you liked pretty well. Two drafts in, do you think Ireland is showing that he's significantly better off without Parcells?

rrrrphin
05-03-2012, 09:05 AM
thanks for the insight and hard work!

PhinsTD
05-03-2012, 10:07 AM
Just want to add my thanks for the thread and hard work.

Your view was pretty similar to mine in that it's hard to find fault with many of the picks, and the faults that are found are generally liking another player a tiny bit more.

That's a good draft, and one I'll happily take. I keep reading Miami didn't address WR enough, but I think getting to the two WR's they did was a coup and they both perfectly fit the new offense.

Kudo's to Miami, and kudos to you Slimm.

jmo543
05-03-2012, 07:12 PM
Thanks for the hard work! Overall how do you grade Miami's draft against the other teams?

lil tom digby
05-04-2012, 10:41 PM
New York Jets



#16 Overall -- Quinton Coples / DE / North Carolina

#3 defensive end on my board and had a top 20 grade on him. Jets get good value here for versatile defensive lineman. Motor issues concern me less than the fact I question his ability to be a truly dominant pass rusher on the edge. Could be Greg Ellis, or could be Ebenezer Ekuban. Probably falls somewhere in between. If Rex can't get it out of him then I just don't think it's there. Grade: B



#43 Overall -- Stephen Hill / WR / Georgia Tech

I had a late 1st/early 2nd round grade on Hill and was rated the #4 wide receiver on my board. Explodes off the line of scrimmage and incredible workout numbers are visible on tape... although the production isn't quite there due to style of offense. Drops some easy passes and will learn how to run routes. Will go up and get the ball in 50/50 situations. Required to go into the middle of the field and root out linebackers in Paul Johnson's double-wing attack. Sky is the limit for this kid. Nice pick here. Grade: B+



#77 Overall -- Demario Davis / OLB / Arkansas St.

The #1 4-3 outside linebacker on my board and had an early 2nd round grade on him. The leader and tone setter for one of the better defenses in college football that nobody knows about. Tested off the charts athletically in most every event at the combine for this class of linebackers. Should become an NFL starter at some point. Grade: A-



#187 Overall -- Josh Bush / S / Wake Forest

Bush didn't make it on my draft board. Grade: D-



#202 Overall -- Terrance Ganaway / RB / Baylor

#2 short yardage back on my board and had a 6th round grade. Productive on the IZ running against soft defenses and 5-6 men in the box. Tested and ran pretty good for back his size. Will find the going gets much tougher where he's headed. Grade: C-



#203 Overall -- Robert T. Griffin / OG / Baylor

Wasn't on my draft board. Grade: D-



#242 Overall -- Antonio Allen / S / South Carolina

#17 safety on my board and had a late round grade. More of an in-the-box safety/linebacker who played the 'spur' position in Ellis Johnson's defense, which is a base 4-2-5 package. Suspect in coverage but a strong tackling safety who's best close to the LOS. Grade: C+



#244 Overall -- Jordan White / WR / Western Michigan

I had a 4th round grade on White and rated him my #7 slot receiver. Fantastic hands and one of the better route runners in this class. More of a #3 or #4 receiver in the NFL. Slow and a little on the old side for a rookie. Suffered 2 ACL injuries in college. I admire the kid's guile to come back from both. Production is eye-popping. Grade: B-


Agree on the Demario Davis pick, did the Jets trade up in front of Miami at 77? I was really hoping for Davis at pick 78.

hooshoops
05-06-2012, 11:41 PM
nice work here slimm...as for miami only pick i really disagree on is egnew..i just don't think the kid will defeat man coverage or separate...if you let him slip down the seam unaccounted for then yeah i'm sure he can do damage but he looks like a rocked up wr playing te to me who will be primarily a threat in the red zone and a scheme driven production player...i don't see a guy on tape who plays anywhere near the combine explosion numbers he put up...no burst one speed guy who imo will get locked down aganst man coverage...lets hope he continues to catch the contested balls as a pro cause i think there's gonna be a lot of them

Loy170
05-08-2012, 09:49 PM
Awesome work. Incredibly informative read. Loved the initial Dolphins draft grades and the eventual analysis afterwards lol

NY8123
05-15-2012, 09:24 PM
Beautiful thread Slimm....this will get my nod for thread of the year nomination.

ckparrothead
05-16-2012, 12:34 PM
Well deserved props to Slimm for this thread as I am in position to know how much of what he's written in this thread is the culmination of countless hours of hard work and film study. Can't understate that. What you see in terms of grades, description, rankings, etc...may not look much at times and people may nitpick it, yet I know how much time goes into it.

A little surprised that despite Slimm's cynical/sarcastic original assessment with all A+ grades and his assertion that we really do not want to read his grades on the players...when it came time to actually assign grades, there wasn't even a single C or C- in there. On a numeric scale he gave a 99 of 135, or about a B average. I'm not about to accuse Slimm of having gone soft on Miami (I'm not even sure he's truly a Miami fan to be honest), because I can relate...as someone that has not liked a lot of what Jeff Ireland has done, and was surprised that as he rattled off pick after pick, these were for the most part players I approved of. Not necessarily favorites, but players I liked.

Not necessarily sure I saw things the same way on Jon Martin. I don't have a problem with the position in the 2nd round, but I also don't know that I agree that Martin was a future top 10 pick in 2013. I also watched closely that matchup with Nick Perry and had a different read on it. I don't know that I would characterize what Martin did to Perry as having dominated him. I thought it was closer to the other way around. I guess part of this is how you regard Perry himself. Given Slimm liked Perry as the best DE in the Draft, his perspective on that battle makes sense. But regardless I had Perry beating Martin cleanly in pass rush at least 7 times (6 outside, 1 counter), including 4 pressures flushing Luck out of the pocket and 2 hits on Andrew as he threw. I don't know what the stat services say but that's what my eyes told me. There were two plays some might have even tossed a half-sack at Perry for, but one you couldn't fault Jon Martin for in any way. The other I scored as a QB hit because if the pressure hadn't come from the other side, that's probably all Perry would've gotten out of it was a hit on Luck as he threw. This to me was a game that helped show that Martin needs a lot more upper body strength, something he showed again at his pro day on the bench. What he did well in the game was perform in the clutch late in the 4th quarter and in overtime. Or perhaps it was Perry that slowed down in the clutch. Either way, Martin blocked Perry well in crunch time.

Another one I differ a little is Lamar Miller. I hear Slimm on never having thought of Miller as a 1st rounder or the 2nd best runner in this Draft. I'm the same way. I never looked at Miller and thought this guy needs to go in the 1st round. Doug Martin, the more I got round to him, the more I saw that. David Wilson I did not, because of fumbling issues, also not a big guy that gets any significant yards after contact. What I appreciate about Miller's game more than I think maybe Slimm does is the vision and ball security. My personal opinion is that he does not have just average vision. I like his patience and I like the way he sets up blocks. He has this god-given burst and speed, and he knows it. It's like a quarterback that has god-given arm talent, and plays accordingly. Quarterbacks with great arms 'borrow' off that arm strength so to speak in order to gain advantage in other aspects, because they know their arm is good for it. They can back away from pressure creating extra distance and/or worse angles, throw off leverage, etc. Lamar Miller to me embodies the phrase "speed through the hole, not to the hole". He knows he can hit the speed button like a video game, so he's patient to the hole and lets his blocks develop. The other area I disagree is ball security. He has good instincts for protecting the ball in a crowd, whether it's switching hands or coming down on the football with both hands, he does these things fluidly and quickly, with good coordination and instincts. He has shown this by only fumbling 3 times in his career (2 happening in one game, sometimes you just have a weird day) and only having lost 2 of them (1 in 2010, 1 in 2011). I agree with Slimm he's not phyiscal enough and if he doesn't develop his body and get better, then at the lower end he may just be another Brandon Jackson. That's his floor, to me. However, he could be a lot better than that.

I'm not sure we disagree overall on Josh Kaddu, because the bottom line is a C+ is exactly what I'm inclined toward for him. I've brought him up in the past as a guy that wouldn't be a bad draft pick. It would be hypocritical of me to sit here now and say suddenly it's a bad draft pick. However, there were some things that confused me on the pick. I'm one of the people Slimm mentioned that didn't like passing on Tank Carder to end up with Josh Kaddu. I just have a clearer vision for how Tank Carder is going to fit in the NFL, as a coverage guy on passing downs (initially). I have a tougher time figuring how Kaddu fits, other than special teams. He reminds me a little of Kevin Burnett, and like Burnett it could take five years before Kaddu has honed his instincts against the run to where he's valuable on 1st/2nd down. Unlike Burnett, he's not a strong cover linebacker yet. He's athletic, he's sudden, he has some explosiveness to him, he hits like a truck at times, but he mostly made his name as a blitzer rushing the quarterback, which won't avail him at the next level. He's sort of a poor man's Ronnell Lewis, and Lewis himself may have issues trying to make it as a pro (hence dropping to the 4th round).

Cunningham I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. I see what's special about him at athe college level. I don't see what's special about him at the NFL level. Of course now that I say that, he'll be an All Pro. The first thing that always jumps out at me about him is how smoothly he runs and catches the football with his hands on the run. It's a trait I saw in Blair White, also from Michigan State, whom I felt was better than his undrafted free agent status. But I knew Blair was a tireless worker and I don't know that about Cunningham, and the bottom line is no receiver makes a living running slants and drags at the NFL level. I hate to be harsh but there you have it. He specialized on slant and drag routes and even the slant routes were iffy if he had a corner with any amount of size or physicality pressing him at the line. He's not out running anyone. He's not out-bodying people. He doesn't have a "my ball" physical mentality when the ball is in the air. He tracks and adjusts on the ball in the air but if I wanted that I could have grabbed Jeremy Ebert and at least had some 4.40 speed to show for it. Cunningham's run after catch and tackle breaking ability was dependent on physically inferior, smaller corners trying to tackle his 6'1" and 211 lbs frame, and coming up short. Worse, he's not versatile. He presents no special teams value. He presents no value on reverses. As I said, he's not a strong RAC player. So you're trying to think of ways for him to be useful in the game and there's only one way...he has to go out there, run routes, create separation, and make plays. What if he's not as good at that as other guys on the roster? Suddenly you've got a player who can't be active on game day and is just clogging up a roster space. I think the bottom line is the Dolphins grabbed four receivers off this rookie class, two of them undrafted free agents, and though Cunningham was taken first he might be the least interesting to me of the four. Like I said, now that I say that, he'll be the best of the four. There are pluses to his game. He adjusts on the ball well, catches smoothly on the run without breaking stride at all (which is actually not as common a skill as you think), he's a smart player and plays like it, and he's got decent size. But I don't think it's enough.

The rest I pretty much agreed with almost point for point. I'm intrigued with Derek Moye and Jonas Gray, among the UDFAs, along with Josh Samuda.

ckparrothead
05-16-2012, 01:31 PM
Slimm mentioned three UDFAs that I am also intrigued with a lot in Jonas Gray, Derek Moye and Jeff Fuller.

One he didn't mention is Josh Samuda of Umass.

This guy really does intrigue me a lot and I will admit that my only exposure to him as a football player are the following videos:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iBDjOJoJ6E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niLvSnFo6Mc

I don't want to make more of him than I should based on Combine drills and a highlights tape. I can't evaluate him as a starting guard at the NFL level based on that, for instance. But I can say he's definitely worth the UDFA contract gamble based on only those tapes. Aside from David DeCastro and Kevin Zeitler, I don't know that any other guard's drills at the real NFL Combine looked as intriguing to me as Samuda's at the Regional Combine. That includes Amini Silatolu. I'm just being honest, again I'm not saying Samuda is better than any of those guys. And his highlight tapes, well they're highlights...not like his people are going to show him looking bad...but they did look pretty good, as far as highlights go. I've seen plenty of highlights of guys that didn't look that great. You have to love Samuda's mentality on display in the highlights.

Then you look at his workout numbers and pure athleticism, again very intriguing. At his pro day the scouts had him at 5.08 seconds at 6031 and 312 lbs. He looked good running it, too. He ran the 40 on what looked like a bit of a chewed up UMass stadium football field, not a track surface. I always emphasize that because if you look at pictures of Greg Childs' miraculous 40 yard dash, he ran it on a track surface, not a real football field. Samuda had a 32 inch vertical, 32 bench reps, an 8'9" broad jump, 4.49 shuttle and 7.39 cone. Really about as good as you get at 6'3" and 312 lbs. On March 1, 2010 he maxed out a 600 lbs squat. By February 11, 2011 he did five repetitions of a 550 lbs squat. He did three reps at 405 lbs on the bench press and maxes out at 425 lbs. That bench prowess showed up at his pro day when he did 32 repetitions at 225 lbs.

Usually if you're going to get an offensive lineman with that kind of weight room prowess, size, speed and overall athletic ability as an undrafted free agent, he either:

A. Looks woefully awkward and unbalanced in his movements
B. Has the hand technique of Edward Scissorhands
C. Has virtually no experience
D. Some combination of the above

Yet, he:

A. Moved really well and showed good balance in Combine drills
B. Doesn't look awkward in highlights and was a 2011 All-CAA selection
C. Has started 43 games, switching between right and left guard

So hey, not proclaiming he's the next Pro Bowler to come out of Miami or anything....but I actually think he makes the roster.

datruth55
05-16-2012, 02:19 PM
Glad your onboard with Samuda. I actually found out about him two days before the draft and was very intrigued by him. Being from UMass I figured he may go undrafted, was glad to see we got him in as an UDFA. I think he's got a good shot a long with Dennis to make the roster at Guard...at worst I see him on the practice squad.

ckparrothead
05-16-2012, 02:50 PM
I think he's got a better shot than Dennis to be honest. Whenever I watched Dennis at Temple my eyes always went to his teammate Wayne Tribue. I just don't see Derrick Dennis as all that interesting a player.

datruth55
05-18-2012, 01:46 PM
I think he's got a better shot than Dennis to be honest. Whenever I watched Dennis at Temple my eyes always went to his teammate Wayne Tribue. I just don't see Derrick Dennis as all that interesting a player.
You don't think Dennis and Samuda would be upgrades over what we have on the roster currently? I think they probably are and the fact that they wouldn't have to start (not both) initially should help the coaches work on their development...just sprinkle them in a few plays here and there.

ckparrothead
05-19-2012, 08:23 PM
Samuda yes but Dennis I'm not so sure.

Phinatic8u
05-20-2012, 11:44 AM
I don't understand how Mr. Slimm gets passed over for best poster every single year.

IrishDolphin
08-04-2012, 04:45 PM
Samuda seems to be repaying CK's faith in him by moving up to 2nd team and thanks to Slimm for fascinating evaluations !!

finsfan7137
08-09-2012, 12:37 AM
go Tannehill!

uk_dolfan
09-07-2012, 11:26 PM
Sorry to bump a really old thread but I was really impressed with what TedSlimmJr had to say about the draft picks for the dolphins, if you see this Ted I was wondering about your current thoughts regarding these two picks:


#78 Overall -- Michael Egnew / TE / Missouri


why I like this pick: He was the #3 tight end in the draft on my board and I figured the 3rd round was where he'd come off. Egnew is precisely the type of flex TE that I've talked about Miami was always missing and typically avoided in the draft. He plays essentially like a WR split out operating in space. He creates a matchup problem with cornerbacks and linebackers in man coverage. Coaches can split him out in the "X" receiver position and run some X-iso where he's isolated on a smaller cornerback along the sidelines, or motion him there and have a linebacker follow him. A player like this makes your personnel packages capable of dictating to the defense. Egnew's height and linear speed is what you must have in a seam threat that forces safeties to play you honest. Athletically he tested at or near the top in virtually every event at the combine for TE's. Production is top notch.

why I don't like this pick: Only plays at one speed and isn't explosive changing directions. A stalk blocker who needs refinement in the aspect of blocking.

Overall: Nice pick and solid value here. Coaches will coach him up in the blocking department. You can't coach a kid to be 6'5", 250 pounds with 4.6 speed and soft hands. Grade: B+


#183 Overall -- B.J. Cunningham / WR / Michigan St.


why I like this pick: I had a 5th round grade on him for one. Several times mentioned him as one of the more underrated receivers in the Senior class since last summer. Michigan St.'s all time leader in career receptions and receiving yardage despite not always having the most consistent quarterback play. A program that's had Plaxico Burress, Mark Ingram, Derrick Mason, Charles Rogers, Muhsin Muhammad, and Andre Rison all come through there. He has a great work ethic and takes pride in it. Showed he belonged down at the East-West Shrine Game.

why I don't like this pick: Not much. Miami didn't reach for him and got a receiver capable of contributing in this offense.

Overall: Miami's already lackluster receivers better not sleep on this kid. He's capable of snatching their job away from them. I think he probably makes the final 53. Grade: B-

Considering the "strength" of the WR group do you think it was a mistake not to give Cunningham a place on the Roster? Also are you surprised that Egnew seems to have had a (to be kind) "slow start" and do you still think he could be a good player for us this season?

TedSlimmJr
09-09-2012, 12:52 PM
Considering the "strength" of the WR group do you think it was a mistake not to give Cunningham a place on the Roster? Also are you surprised that Egnew seems to have had a (to be kind) "slow start" and do you still think he could be a good player for us this season?[/B][/B]


No I'm not surprised that Egnew seems to have had a slow start. I think he should be fine if soaks up his coaching and works his tail off. There is nothing athletically that's going to prevent him from fulfilling his potential.

I don't know that I'd go so far as to say not 'giving' Cunningham a spot on the roster was a mistake, but if it were me I would probably have made an attempt to keep him over the status quo. He had the opportunity in front of him to earn his spot on the roster competing with the least talented group in the league and didn't do it. He couldn't catch the ball consistently in practice....which is at the top of his job description.

I knew Rishard Matthews had a better shot at sticking because he was a better player, better prospect, and I had a higher grade on him.


While we're on the subject, it's also interesting to note that while everyone was raising hell about the Kaddu pick and passing up on Tank Carder, although I agreed with them. Tank Carder couldn't make the roster in Buffalo either and met the same fate as Kaddu. Cut...

The bottom line is, you have to take advantage of your opportunity when it's given to you. That's not to say that any rookie who's cut in their first training camp won't have an opportunity elsewhere and make the most of it. The league is full of outstanding players who were cut in training camps early in their careers, pro bowl players. Guys like James Harrison, Wes Welker, etc. and many more. You're not guaranteed another opportunity.

2413fanphins
11-24-2012, 04:04 PM
refreshing to re read our draft analysis by slimm... only came back to this because VIP is so slow the past couple days.

at any rate, I'm still pretty happy with the way last years draft ended up, and if we can replicate that kind of success in the upcoming draft we will really have something to work with for the forseeable future.

dolfan_101
08-16-2013, 07:53 PM
are we going to be treated to the 2013 edition?

JCPHIN_PHAN
03-12-2014, 02:54 PM
intersting to read Slimm's thoughts on this draft from two years ago. Alot of hits and misses, but i am pretty sure that is normal. I hold Slimm's opinion in high regard. (expect for his grade on Jon Martin) lol.