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Dolphins9954
06-11-2012, 08:18 AM
E2eNfuBwS6Q#!


Yeah because Libya turned out to be such a gem. Who's side are we on? The dictator or the terrorists?

Mazinator1027
06-11-2012, 06:04 PM
While I don't agree with getting involved in Syria, why do you pose the situation as the US being for dictators or terrorists? How would getting involved show we're for terrorists?

LANGER72
06-11-2012, 07:45 PM
While I don't agree with getting involved in Syria, why do you pose the situation as the US being for dictators or terrorists? How would getting involved show we're for terrorists?

Here we go again...
We need to stop wasting our tax dollars in all of these tribal spats. The bloody situation has to play itself out.
Our presence there will accomplish absolutely nothing.

Dolphins9954
06-11-2012, 08:10 PM
While I don't agree with getting involved in Syria, why do you pose the situation as the US being for dictators or terrorists? How would getting involved show we're for terrorists?

Because the oppostion engages in terrorists attacks. Not to mention Al-Qaeda is fighting with the rebels.

Dolphins9954
06-11-2012, 08:19 PM
http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2012/06/UNGivingAlQaedaCoverInSyria-1.jpg

Dolphins9954
06-11-2012, 08:44 PM
Report: Rebels Responsible for Houla Massacre (http://www.finheaven.com/corner/302261/report-rebels-responsible-houla-massacre-john-rosenthal)


It was, in the words of U.N. special envoy Kofi Annan, the “tipping point” in the Syria conflict: a savage massacre of over 90 people, predominantly women and children, for which the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad was immediately blamed by virtually the entirety of the Western media. Within days of the first reports of the Houla massacre, the U.S., France, Great Britain, Germany, and several other Western countries announced that they were expelling Syria’s ambassadors in protest.
But according to a new report (http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/neue-erkenntnisse-zu-getoeteten-von-hula-abermals-massaker-in-syrien-11776496.html) in Germany’s leading daily, the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ), the Houla massacre was in fact committed by anti-Assad Sunni militants, and the bulk of the victims were member of the Alawi and Shia minorities, which have been largely supportive of Assad. For its account of the massacre, the report cites opponents of Assad, who, however, declined to have their names appear in print out of fear of reprisals from armed opposition groups.

According to the article’s sources, the massacre occurred after rebel forces attacked three army-controlled roadblocks outside of Houla. The roadblocks had been set up to protect nearby Alawi majority villages from attacks by Sunni militias. The rebel attacks provoked a call for reinforcements by the besieged army units. Syrian army and rebel forces are reported to have engaged in battle for some 90 minutes, during which time “dozens of soldiers and rebels” were killed.

“According to eyewitness accounts,” the FAZ report continues,

the massacre occurred during this time. Those killed were almost exclusively from families belonging to Houla’s Alawi and Shia minorities. Over 90% of Houla’s population are Sunnis. Several dozen members of a family were slaughtered, which had converted from Sunni to Shia Islam. Members of the Shomaliya, an Alawi family, were also killed, as was the family of a Sunni member of the Syrian parliament who is regarded as a collaborator. Immediately following the massacre, the perpetrators are supposed to have filmed their victims and then presented them as Sunni victims in videos posted on the internet.

The FAZ report echoes eyewitness accounts collected from refugees from the Houla region by members of the Monastery of St. James in Qara, Syria. According to monastery sources cited by the Dutch Middle East expert Martin Janssen (http://opinie.deredactie.be/2012/06/02/de-verschrikkingen-van-houla/), armed rebels murdered “entire Alawi families” in the village of Taldo in the Houla region.

Already at the beginning of April, Mother Agnès-Mariam de la Croix of the St. James Monastery warned of rebel atrocities’ being repackaged in both Arab and Western media accounts as regime atrocities. She cited the case of a massacre in the Khalidiya neighborhood in Homs. According to an account (http://www.maryakub.org/Article_dernieres_nouvelles_de_Homs_et_Qousseir_1_avril_2012.html) published in French on the monastery’s website, rebels gathered Christian and Alawi hostages in a building in Khalidiya and blew up the building with dynamite. They then attributed the crime to the regular Syrian army. “Even though this act has been attributed to regular army forces . . . , the evidence and testimony are irrefutable: It was an operation undertaken by armed groups affiliated with the opposition,” Mother Agnès-Mariam wrote.


http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/302261/report-rebels-responsible-houla-massacre-john-rosenthal#


So these are the people we're helping out???

They killed dozens of women and children execution style for the purpose of propaganda to get the USA to get involved. F these terrorist douchebag motherfers.

Here's a couple more links about this.......

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/neue-erkenntnisse-zu-getoeteten-von-hula-abermals-massaker-in-syrien-11776496.html
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/112917.html#more-112917

Mazinator1027
06-11-2012, 10:25 PM
Here we go again...
We need to stop wasting our tax dollars in all of these tribal spats. The bloody situation has to play itself out.
Our presence there will accomplish absolutely nothing.

While it's not a tribal spat I still agree with what your saying. I never said anything to the contrary.

Mazinator1027
06-11-2012, 10:31 PM
I actually have never heard of any of those reports so I guess your right. This is why getting involved in foreign conflicts is always a bad idea. Usually there's always two equally bad sides. You still have to feel horrible for the actually innocent citizens in Syria though.

Dolphins9954
06-11-2012, 10:40 PM
I actually have never heard of any of those reports so I guess your right. This is why getting involved in foreign conflicts is always a bad idea. Usually there's always two equally bad sides. You still have to feel horrible for the actually innocent citizens in Syria though.

I do feel sorry for the Syrian people. They have a sh!tty government which oppresses them. Their country is a clusterF of sh!t stirring by the Saudis, CIA, Turkey, Mossad and Jihadists. And now a potential international war. I wouldn't want to be in their shoes.

Tetragrammaton
06-11-2012, 10:53 PM
Withdrawing from every country and re-investing our money on our own country would make us more powerful and threatening to other countries, not less. However, the madness continues.

cdz12250
06-11-2012, 11:01 PM
Fortunately, Obama seems to be a fan of raining death from the skies, not committing ground forces. The aircraft don't even have pilots.

CedarPhin
06-12-2012, 05:15 PM
We're not going to go take the Russians on in Syria. We'll just continue to let things go as they are. Some will be outraged, but there's no chance US boots land on the ground in Syria. Too much is at play here.