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Eshlemon
07-13-2012, 06:00 PM
http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2012/07/bbw_mormonempire_cover29-1.jpg

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/07/bloomberg-businewssweeks-mormon-issue-128725.html

:lol: Certainly he can print whatever he wants...but man can politics certainly bring out the strange and worst.


http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/07/12/would-bloomberg-mock-islam-like-that-mormons-prejudice/

"Would Bloomberg Mock Islam Like That?"

CedarPhin
07-13-2012, 06:05 PM
I've always found it funny they only decided to have a "revelation" to allow black people into their temples once it became clear they could lose their tax exempt status. That and John Beck's playing career.

Spesh
07-13-2012, 06:06 PM
Anyone who points the figure and laughs at other peoples beliefs should take a long, hard look at their own.

CedarPhin
07-13-2012, 06:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvaTLs3XYZQ

CedarPhin
07-13-2012, 06:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HSlbuli7HM&feature=related

Gonzo
07-13-2012, 06:16 PM
Anyone who points the figure and laughs at other peoples beliefs should take a long, hard look at their own.

I make fun of all religions equally.

CedarPhin
07-13-2012, 06:17 PM
I make fun of all religions equally.

Total equality for all! I'm the same way.

Dolphins9954
07-13-2012, 06:22 PM
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Spesh
07-13-2012, 06:24 PM
I make fun of all religions equally.

:up:


dis·crim·i·na·tion   /dɪˌskrɪməˈneɪʃən/ Show Spelled[dih-skrim-uh-ney-shuhn] Show IPA
noun 1. an act or instance of discriminating (http://www.finheaven.com/browse/discriminate).

2. treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which (http://www.finheaven.com/browse/which) that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination.

3. the power of making fine distinctions; discriminating (http://www.finheaven.com/browse/discriminate) judgment: She chose the colors with great discrimination.

4. Archaic . something that serves to differentiate.



http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/discrimination

As long as you laugh at everyone and yourself, your perfectly fine.

CedarPhin
07-13-2012, 07:03 PM
Scientologists have as many moonies as the Mormons do.

Tetragrammaton
07-13-2012, 07:53 PM
Christopher Hitchens repeatedly asked:

If Mitt Romney was an appointed leader in the Mormon church when they actively discriminated against black people, why doesn't he have to answer for that?

CedarPhin
07-13-2012, 08:00 PM
They always tap dance around it, they come up with some crazy story that makes zero sense, and then they try to change the subject. Basically a mind control cult founded with a few racist principles.

Locke
07-13-2012, 08:16 PM
http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2012/07/bbw_mormonempire_cover29-1.jpg

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/07/bloomberg-businewssweeks-mormon-issue-128725.html

:lol: Certainly he can print whatever he wants...but man can politics certainly bring out the strange and worst.


http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/07/12/would-bloomberg-mock-islam-like-that-mormons-prejudice/

"Would Bloomberg Mock Islam Like That?"

It was only a matter of time. The fact that he is a member of a religion largely considered to be one of the odder ones was always going to be an issue. Obama doesn't even have to mention it, everyone else will. Those who thought it wouldn't be a variable are about to be in for an unpleasant surprise...

jared81
07-13-2012, 10:00 PM
Lots of hate going on tonight! Glad you guys are so concerned about other peoples beliefs.

Locke
07-13-2012, 10:16 PM
Lots of hate going on tonight! Glad you guys are so concerned about other peoples beliefs.

Where is there hate...?

CedarPhin
07-13-2012, 10:21 PM
Lots of hate going on tonight! Glad you guys are so concerned about other peoples beliefs.

Is your allegedly minority wife now allegedly a Mormon too?

jared81
07-13-2012, 10:54 PM
Where is there hate...?


The overall mood of the thread. His religion (just like Obama's) won't be a reason to elect him or not. It's just a distraction. You wouldn't make a thread about the evils of Islam or the Jewish faith.

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Is your allegedly minority wife now allegedly a Mormon too?

Lol. It's obvious I am in your head, young man. You have 34,000 post, I am guessing you don't have a women. Left handed or right handed?

Gonzo
07-13-2012, 11:06 PM
Lots of hate going on tonight! Glad you guys are so concerned about other peoples beliefs.

Says the guy has no problem with police pulling over dem dangerous brown-skins.

jared81
07-13-2012, 11:10 PM
Says the guy has no problem with police pulling over dem dangerous brown-skins.

Lol! Ok man. I guess with that rational I can say you hate children, since you don't mind them being raped by Mexican gangsters. You would have a different opinion if it was your daughter. Hmm.

CedarPhin
07-13-2012, 11:12 PM
Lol. It's obvious I am in your head, young man. You have 34,000 post, I am guessing you don't have a women. Left handed or right handed?

This is seriously the best you can come up with? "You have a ton of posts, so you're a loser?". laff laff laff. That's almost as original and witty as "My dad can beat up your dad!" or "My truck's jacked up and I'm awesome"

I guess we can't all fantasize that we're married and slapped around by a Latina wife. Such is life.

CedarPhin
07-13-2012, 11:14 PM
Says the guy has no problem with police pulling over dem dangerous brown-skins.

He'd have them wear red, green, and white stars if he could.

jared81
07-13-2012, 11:26 PM
This is seriously the best you can come up with? "You have a ton of posts, so you're a loser?". laff laff laff.

I guess we can't all fantasize that we're married and slapped around by a Latina wife.

We wont all be fantasizing, except maybe you.. Question: if you do in fact have a girlfriend, do you let the local color cover come over and take care of business? Does that make you think they will like you more? Anything to be down right?:lol:

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He'd have them wear red, green, and white stars if he could.


Ah yes. The old liberal way. If you don't agree you must be a racist. God forbid anyone think differently than you.

Tetragrammaton
07-13-2012, 11:27 PM
I went ahead and looked up a few of Hitchens' old columns. It is funny to see the similarities.

He notes how whenever someone questions of criticizes Mormonism as it relates to the man who might be President, people will immediately try to say you are being prejudiced. Jared did just that.

Dolphins9954
07-13-2012, 11:31 PM
Obama and Romney don't need religion to qualify their douchebag status. Anyone using that against them is a douchebag themselves.

jared81
07-13-2012, 11:40 PM
I went ahead and looked up a few of Hitchens' old columns. It is funny to see the similarities.

He notes how whenever someone questions of criticizes Mormonism as it relates to the man who might be President, people will immediately try to say you are being prejudiced. Jared did just that.

:lol:....in order for you to quote hitchens you would have to assume that I cared what he thought. There were very few people in the public life that were as hateful, depressing and narrow minded as him. The bill mahers and intellectually sad cared what he thought.

Romney and Obama by all accounts seem like good husbands and fathers. They seem generous and thoughtful of others. Even though i disagree with them both, that is usually my judge for moral character. Their religion means minimal to me.

LouPhinFan
07-13-2012, 11:46 PM
Does this thread come with a fuse? Because religion and politics in the same thread might as well be an atom bomb.

It will blow and take half the pofo with it.

Tetragrammaton
07-13-2012, 11:50 PM
From 1849 to 1978, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints) (LDS Church) had a policy against ordaining black (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people) men of African descent to the priesthood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priesthood_%28LDS_Church%29). Whereas other churches usually have full-time salaried clergy of whom individual members are often the chief minister to several families, in the LDS Church virtually all male head-of-household church members are part of the priesthood. Under the pre-1978 policy, black men of African descent could not hold the priesthood in this way, and were also prohibited from participating in the temple (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_%28LDS_Church%29) Endowment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endowment_%28Latter_Day_Saints%29) and sealings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealing_%28Latter_Day_Saints%29), ordinances (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordinance_%28Latter_Day_Saints%29) that the church teaches are necessary for the highest degree of salvation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exaltation_%28LDS_Church%29). However, the LDS Church has always had an open membership policy for all races, but few black people who were aware of the racial policy joined the church.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacks_and_The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints#cite_note-WP-0) In 1978, church leaders ceased the racial restriction policy for black men, declaring that they had received a revelation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_Revelation_on_Priesthood) instructing them to do so.

Mitt Romney turned 31 in 1978. In that time, he had served as a missionary, rising to co-acting President of the mission, and had convinced his wife to convert to Mormonism. Of course, the Romney family had five generations of upper-level membership in the church, one that institutionalized discrimination against black people. Romney's response?


At culturally conservative BYU, he remained isolated from much of the upheaval of the era, and did not join in protests against the war or against the LDS Church's policy at the time of denying the lay priesthood, and some sacraments, to blacks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_and_The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints).

So did he condone the racism of the church, did not know the tenets of his church, or did not care?

CedarPhin
07-13-2012, 11:51 PM
We wont all be fantasizing, except maybe you.. Question: if you do in fact have a girlfriend, do you let the local color cover come over and take care of business? Does that make you think they will like you more? Anything to be down right?:lol:
So you hire hookers and pretend you're married to them? Cool.


Ah yes. The old liberal way. If you don't agree you must be a racist. God forbid anyone think differently than you.
If liberal means "Stating the obvious", then yes, it appears I'm on the money here. Will you go hand them out dressed as a ghost?

jared81
07-14-2012, 12:06 AM
So you hire hookers and pretend you're married to them? Cool.


If liberal means "Stating the obvious", then yes, it appears I'm on the money here. Will you go hand them out dressed as a ghost?


There are some projects down here in Orlando I hear that don't like you very much. Maybe you should send Mrs. Cedar down here to change their mind. Who knows, maybe they'll be gentle this time.:lol:

Dolphins9954
07-14-2012, 12:31 AM
Rev Wright all over again with a twist of another f'up religion. BULLSH!T!!!!

CedarPhin
07-14-2012, 01:18 AM
There are some projects down here in Orlando I hear that don't like you very much. Maybe you should send Mrs. Cedar down here to change their mind. Who knows, maybe they'll be gentle this time.:lol:

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2012/07/seinfeld-1.gif

Eshlemon
07-14-2012, 03:53 AM
It was only a matter of time. The fact that he is a member of a religion largely considered to be one of the odder ones was always going to be an issue. Obama doesn't even have to mention it, everyone else will. Those who thought it wouldn't be a variable are about to be in for an unpleasant surprise...

I expected to be used, but was rather naive in my assumption this wouldn't be so graphicly main stream. As for our President, expect Obama will trot a couple Mormons and to sum up the speech...I am President Barak Obama and DO NOT approve of that message.

Politics are dirty and its not uncommon for campaigns to reach Defcon 1, but this opening salvo is going to put us at a whole new level we haven't seen before IMO...and everybody's got a lot of money to spend on their dirty bombs.

Gonzo
07-14-2012, 08:28 AM
Lol! Ok man. I guess with that rational I can say you hate children, since you don't mind them being raped by Mexican gangsters. You would have a different opinion if it was your daughter. Hmm.

By that "logic," I should keep them away from your kids because they're apparently half-Mexican. Maybe you can preemptively lock them up?

Gonzo
07-14-2012, 08:50 AM
Could you imagine if the first Mormon running for president was a Democrat? You thought the birther movement was bad...

Dogbone34
07-14-2012, 03:05 PM
religion is always a component. most people don't get as hung up on it as the intolerant left wing junkie crowd.

its not like mormons are associated with terrorism or radical groups.

Gonzo
07-14-2012, 03:11 PM
religion is always a component. most people don't get as hung up on it as the intolerant left wing junkie crowd.

its not like mormons are associated with terrorism or radical groups.:lol:

Valandui
07-14-2012, 03:15 PM
Could you imagine if the first Mormon running for president was a Democrat? You thought the birther movement was bad...

Harry Reid has been running the Senate for a little while now.

Gonzo
07-14-2012, 03:30 PM
Harry Reid has been running the Senate for a little while now.

The Presidency is an entirely different ball game than a Senate seat in a state with a relatively large Mormon population. If Reid were to run for President, no doubt it would become an issue, and far more venomous that what Romney will (wrongly) face.

Gonzo
07-14-2012, 03:38 PM
To be honest, Romney's religion is none of my business. I couldn't care less. A candidate's religion will never factor into any vote I cast. Except for Talos worshippers. They need to be exterminated.

Locke
07-14-2012, 03:39 PM
religion is always a component. most people don't get as hung up on it as the intolerant left wing junkie crowd.

its not like mormons are associated with terrorism or radical groups.

:lol:

You mean like Islam? Yup, the LEFT-WINGERS are so intolerant of other religions.

Interestingly, Christians also have terrorist and radical groups. Where is the hatred there...?

Valandui
07-14-2012, 03:59 PM
The Presidency is an entirely different ball game than a Senate seat in a state with a relatively large Mormon population. If Reid were to run for President, no doubt it would become an issue, and far more venomous that what Romney will (wrongly) face.
True, but I imagine he would step down from his leadership position if it became an issue.

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To be honest, Romney's religion is none of my business. I couldn't care less. A candidate's religion will never factor into any vote I cast. Except for Talos worshippers. They need to be exterminated.

Skyrim is for the Nords!

Gonzo
07-14-2012, 04:16 PM
True, but I imagine he would step down from his leadership position if it became an issue.

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Skyrim is for the Nords!
That's because Reid is a jackass that would sacrifice his own supposed beliefs for his greater good.

Reid used to be a Mormon like Romney, but then he took an arrow to the knee.

tylerdolphin
07-14-2012, 04:26 PM
Anyone who points the figure and laughs at other peoples beliefs should take a long, hard look at their own.

In my defense, Mormon beliefs are quite laughable.

tylerdolphin
07-14-2012, 04:33 PM
In my experience though, crazier religious sects like Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses tend to have perfectly normal, rational, intelligent people outside the wacky beliefs. Someone's religion really doesnt say much about their intelligence level or capability to do a job IMO.

I still enjoy laughing at the fact that they believe American Indians are Jews though.

Gonzo
07-14-2012, 04:44 PM
In my experience though, crazier religious sects like Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses tend to have perfectly normal, rational, intelligent people outside the wacky beliefs. Someone's religion really doesnt say much about their intelligence level or capability to do a job IMO.

I still enjoy laughing at the fact that they believe American Indians are Jews though.True. It's only a problem when they try to force their beliefs on others.

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2012/07/556001_446060942082443_1081217468_n-1.jpg

Valandui
07-14-2012, 05:42 PM
True. It's only a problem when they try to force their beliefs on others.

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2012/07/556001_446060942082443_1081217468_n-1.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiA1r7pdQAY

CedarPhin
07-14-2012, 05:44 PM
In my experience though, crazier religious sects like Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses tend to have perfectly normal, rational, intelligent people outside the wacky beliefs. Someone's religion really doesnt say much about their intelligence level or capability to do a job IMO.

I still enjoy laughing at the fact that they believe American Indians are Jews though.

I want to go visit the Garden of Eden in St. Louis.