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rob19
07-31-2012, 03:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpXxPsiz1uw&feature=g-all-u

So to all you cancer patients, tough ****.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sBnhiskMg8

Gonzo
07-31-2012, 06:39 PM
Love how he tells the kid that synthetic is available. More expensive, lasts half the time (requiring more to be purchased), and ensures Pharma gets their cut.

Dear god, this may be a worse election than Bush vs. Kerry.

finomenal
07-31-2012, 07:00 PM
"Gateway drug?". They're STILL pushing that propaganda? Unreal.

rob19
07-31-2012, 07:32 PM
I've posted this before but here's Ron Paul talking to the same patient

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EChdcGtsVlw

Dolphins9954
07-31-2012, 07:41 PM
Unfortunately we don't have any choice in the matter. One day maybe not anytime soon.

Eli_Manning
08-01-2012, 01:19 PM
good. tell me liberals, what has marijuana done for societty other than creating unemployed stoner occupy wall street protesters?

Gonzo
08-01-2012, 01:25 PM
good. tell me liberals, what has marijuana done for societty other than creating unemployed stoner occupy wall street protesters?

Improved spelling and grammar? Wait, that's the dastardly education system. Need to get rid of that thing.

Tell me, neocon(?), what have guns done for society other than killing a lot of people?

COphinphan89
08-01-2012, 01:34 PM
good. tell me liberals, what has marijuana done for societty other than creating unemployed stoner occupy wall street protesters?
Well it's been a fun activity for a lot of people like me, a peaceful citizen and working student who isn't stupid, isn't a deadbeat, and isn't even a liberal and wants nothing to do with "Occupy". It's helped inspire some great music, music you yourself might enjoy. It's been used by others to create the rampant misconceptions like the one featured in your insanely ignorant post. And it's also been used by the feds as an excuse to expand their paramilitarized overreach and threaten other peaceful citizens. Bigger government sucks, right?

Tell me do you drink? If so, why do you beat your wife and kids so much? See what I did there? I just made a stupid generalization of all people who drink even the slightest amounts of alcohol just like you did with people who smoke marijuana.

Gonzo
08-01-2012, 01:41 PM
Well it's been a fun activity for a lot of people like me, a peaceful citizen and working student who isn't stupid, isn't a deadbeat, and isn't even a liberal and wants nothing to do with "Occupy". It's helped inspire some great music, music you yourself might enjoy. It's been used by others to create the rampant misconceptions like the one featured in your insanely ignorant post. And it's also been used by the feds as an excuse to expand their paramilitarized overreach and threaten other peaceful citizens. Bigger government sucks, right?

Tell me do you drink? If so, why do you beat your wife and kids so much? See what I did there? I just made a stupid generalization of all people who drink even the slightest amounts of alcohol just like you did with people who smoke marijuana.
My friend just graduated from Weill Cornell Medical College. Smokes it regularly. Just think of what he could have done if he hadn't? President of the Universe probably.

rob19
08-01-2012, 01:58 PM
good. tell me liberals, what has marijuana done for societty other than creating unemployed stoner occupy wall street protesters?

It did teach me how to spell 'society'.
http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2013/04/marijuanaquotecarlsagan-1.jpg

Educate yourself, you sound like you get all your information straight from Rush Limbaugh.
http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2013/07/1301442087720-1.jpg

If you really are an objective thinker, I want you to watch some of these videos.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr6cd44i_xI&list=PLA43959448409DCDC&index=16&feature=plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk3EBmiURgw&list=PLA43959448409DCDC&index=33&feature=plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_mD6_oFpc0&list=PLA43959448409DCDC&index=12&feature=plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4Eca-INIOw&list=PLA43959448409DCDC&index=42&feature=plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf3CvpA0Wlw&list=PLA43959448409DCDC&index=51&feature=plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jO_ncXj7RE&list=PLA43959448409DCDC&index=53&feature=plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5Zkmmkb-aw&list=PLA43959448409DCDC&index=61&feature=plpp_video


Legalization would reduce state and federal deficits by eliminating expenditure on prohibition enforcement — arrests, prosecutions, and incarceration — and by allowing governments to collect tax revenue on legalized sales.

This potential fiscal windfall is of particular interest because California, which is facing a budget shortfall of $19.9 billion for fiscal 2011, will vote Nov. 2 on a ballot initiative that would legalize marijuana under California law. Advocates of the measure have suggested the state could raise billions in annual tax revenue, in addition to saving criminal-justice expenditure or reallocating this expenditure to more important priorities. Should the California measure pass and generate the forecasted budgetary savings, other states would likely follow suit.

[T]he budgetary implications of legalization are neither trivial nor overwhelming.

In our recent study (http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=12169), just released by the Cato Institute, we estimate the impact of legalization on federal, state, and local budgets. The report concludes that drug legalization would reduce government expenditure about $41.3 billion annually. Roughly $25.7 billion of this savings would accrue to state and local governments, and roughly $15.6 billion to the federal government. About $8.7 billion of the savings would result from legalization of marijuana, $20 billion from legalization of cocaine and heroin, and $12.6 billion from legalization of all other drugs.

You have antiquated & archaic misconceptions about Cannabis.

"It's ridiculous to criticize a drug you haven't taken. It's sheer, boneheaded, know-nothingism" - Terence McKenna

Gonzo
08-01-2012, 02:04 PM
Campaign season is always weird. We get the hardcores from each side showing up in threads, spouting a usually nonsensical and baseless talking point, then leaving without contributing to the conversation in any way. Love it.

tylerdolphin
08-01-2012, 02:07 PM
I got 1000000 e-dollars on Eli_Manning being a drinking or a user of prescription pain meds/anti-depressants. Thats OK though because the government says it is.

rob19
08-01-2012, 02:10 PM
good. tell me liberals, what has marijuana done for societty other than creating unemployed stoner occupy wall street protesters?

Tell me though, what has alcohol done for society? What have cigarettes done for society?

Tobacco kills 400,000 AMERICANS a year. Cannabis has never killed a single person.

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Campaign season is always weird. We get the hardcores from each side showing up in threads, spouting a usually nonsensical and baseless talking point, then leaving without contributing to the conversation in any way. Love it.

Looking at his sig I'm starting to think he's a troll.


Eli Manning > Marino

CANDolphan
08-01-2012, 02:10 PM
Anyone arguing against medical marijuana is simply ignorant. Truly. They believed what DARE told them, they likely have never researched it, and likely never will. When the DEA spokeswoman was unwilling to answer whether Marijuana was "better or worse" than heroin, you know we have a society that does not value facts and information, but merely the status quo.

Gonzo
08-01-2012, 02:14 PM
Tell me though, what has alcohol done for society? What have cigarettes done for society?

Tobacco kills 400,000 AMERICANS a year. Cannabis has never killed a single person.

---------- Post added at 02:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:08 PM ----------



Looking at his sig I'm starting to think he's a troll.

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Who knows. It's hard to tell the difference around this time. You get what are usually level-headed posters in the main forum seemingly going off the deep end in here.

tylerdolphin
08-01-2012, 02:15 PM
Tell me though, what has alcohol done for society? What have cigarettes done for society?

Hey man, dont talk bad about my booze. Its done me plenty good. It makes people and life infinitely more interesting :lol:


Looking at his sig I'm starting to think he's a troll.

Good call. Didnt notice that. That combined with just how ridiculous the threads he starts are and its pretty clearly a troll. IP doesnt match anyone else though. My initial fear was that JCane pulled a real good one on us.

rob19
08-01-2012, 02:16 PM
Who knows. It's hard to tell the difference around this time. You get what are usually level-headed posters in the main forum seemingly going off the deep end in here.

Deep end is one way to put it.

Illuminati will attack the olympics. Inside sources and Alex Jones believe they're planning to stage a false alien invasion similar to the annunaki from sumerian legends. This will coincide will the upcoming arrival of Planet X sometime this year. Keep your eyes peeled.

tylerdolphin
08-01-2012, 02:24 PM
Deep end is one way to put it.

Doesnt seem too far fetched. Acquire one flying saucer with motion sensing death rays, get a few alien suits, then BAM. We are fighting supposed alien overlords and have a new world order. Definitely not as out there as you think.

CedarPhin
08-01-2012, 02:41 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/01/medical-marijuana-rescheduling-case_n_1728596.html



Medical marijuana advocates will get their day in court later this year, when they argue the therapeutic value of cannabis.The United States Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit agreed late last week to hear oral arguments in Americans for Safe Access v. Drug Enforcement Administration, a case that could have major implications for the rescheduling of marijuana out of Schedule I, a category that also includes heroin and LSD. Schedule I drugs are described as substances that have “a high potential for abuse, have no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States, and there is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.” Rescheduling can take place either by congressional vote, or through independent action by the executive branch in the presence of new research.

Absolutely huge case for Medical MJ. HUGE.

finomenal
08-01-2012, 04:53 PM
It did teach me how to spell 'society'.
http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2013/04/marijuanaquotecarlsagan-1.jpg

Educate yourself, you sound like you get all your information straight from Rush Limbaugh.
http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2013/07/1301442087720-1.jpg

If you really are an objective thinker, I want you to watch some of these videos.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr6cd44i_xI&list=PLA43959448409DCDC&index=16&feature=plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk3EBmiURgw&list=PLA43959448409DCDC&index=33&feature=plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_mD6_oFpc0&list=PLA43959448409DCDC&index=12&feature=plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4Eca-INIOw&list=PLA43959448409DCDC&index=42&feature=plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf3CvpA0Wlw&list=PLA43959448409DCDC&index=51&feature=plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jO_ncXj7RE&list=PLA43959448409DCDC&index=53&feature=plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5Zkmmkb-aw&list=PLA43959448409DCDC&index=61&feature=plpp_video



You have antiquated & archaic misconceptions about Cannabis.

"It's ridiculous to criticize a drug you haven't taken. It's sheer, boneheaded, know-nothingism" - Terence McKenna[/FONT][/COLOR]

Or, maybe it's a gateway drug. Maybe the people who are pro marijuana are actually deadbeat hippy stoners who are one bong hit away from sucking people up for crack. </sarcasm>

Thanks for the links, Rob. Society needs to wake up. More than any other time, there's no excuse to not be informed. You're a few keystrokes away from getting information on anything you want. Stop sounding like a D.A.R.E. executive and think for yourself.

finomenal
08-01-2012, 04:57 PM
I got 1000000 e-dollars on Eli_Manning being a drinking or a user of prescription pain meds/anti-depressants. Thats OK though because the government says it is.

"It's okay to take drugs, just as long as it's their drugs."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7P4iFg048k

Edit: I thought this video included the line I quoted above...eh, oh well.

CashInFist
08-01-2012, 06:18 PM
Pot should be legal. /end thread :)

rob19
08-01-2012, 07:39 PM
I think we deviated a little from the original post, which was that Romney isn't just going to fight legalizing it in general, he wants to fight MEDICAL marijuana as well. You can't deny that marijuana has medicinal use, we have empirical evidence showing that it does; the patient in the first post in living proof.

How can you Republicans pretend to operate under the guise of wanting small government, but consistently step on and disregard states rights in the states which have already voted in medical cannabis by the people. That isn't 'small government'.

Dolphins9954
08-01-2012, 08:09 PM
Baby Jesus in heaven I pray that you give Obama and Romney cancer or some type of disease that only pot will help with their pain and discomfort. Then when you do I'm kicking your door down and putting a gun to your head while tasering the sh!t out of you. In Jesus name Mary and her 4 sisters AMEN.

finomenal
08-01-2012, 09:44 PM
Baby Jesus in heaven I pray that you give Obama and Romney cancer or some type of disease that only pot will help with their pain and discomfort. Then when you do I'm kicking your door down and putting a gun to your head while tasering the sh!t out of you. In Jesus name Mary and her 4 sisters AMEN.

ouch...

Gonzo
08-01-2012, 11:27 PM
I honestly can't think of a single person I've ever met that thinks it should remain illegal. Not one. From the hardcore conservative to the hardcore liberal and everything in between. Then again, I don't know anybody high up in the pharmaceutical industry. I do know a few cops who are tired of wasting their time with it though.

rob19
08-01-2012, 11:36 PM
I honestly can't think of a single person I've ever met that thinks it should remain illegal. Not one. From the hardcore conservative to the hardcore liberal and everything in between. Then again, I don't know anybody high up in the pharmaceutical industry. I do know a few cops who are tired of wasting their time with it though.

If cops weren't put in a situation where they have to enforce a drug-war they'd be held in much higher regard than they presently are.

Perfect23
08-02-2012, 06:04 PM
I believe the reason that Marijuana is illegal is because of how immature people act about it I personally don't smoke weed but it should be 100% legal.

FinsNCanes
08-03-2012, 07:06 PM
good. tell me liberals, what has marijuana done for societty other than creating unemployed stoner occupy wall street protesters?

As you probably sit there drinking your beer I'm sure.

Do you still enjoy paying for the "War on Marijuana"? It's a ****ing joke. Meanwhile, kids are getting addicted to over the counter stuff every day. It's legal though, must be OK.

How many people have died from marijuana? Find out and get back to me.

These zombies in Congress need to die already. I'm currently in the process of trying to get the hell out of Florida and find a more 420 friendly state (Mike Scott is a crooked twat) . I really don't feel like doing years in prison for simply cultivating some plants for my own use.

I actually may be able to get a medical card with my condition (Epilepsy).

JCane
08-03-2012, 08:33 PM
good. tell me liberals, what has marijuana done for societty other than creating unemployed stoner occupy wall street protesters?

Absolutely nothing when you're dead set on only seeing, hearing and believing one side of the story.

Clearly marijuana is solely responsible for creating unemployment.

Jobs going overseas and an overall poor economy didn't contribute to unemployment at all, amirite?

rob19
08-03-2012, 10:48 PM
As you probably sit there drinking your beer I'm sure.

Do you still enjoy paying for the "War on Marijuana"? It's a ****ing joke. Meanwhile, kids are getting addicted to over the counter stuff every day. It's legal though, must be OK.

How many people have died from marijuana? Find out and get back to me.

These zombies in Congress need to die already. I'm currently in the process of trying to get the hell out of Florida and find a more 420 friendly state (Mike Scott is a crooked twat) . I really don't feel like doing years in prison for simply cultivating some plants for my own use.

I actually may be able to get a medical card with my condition (Epilepsy).

You could claim insomnia and get one, they give out medical cards pretty liberally in California (probably other places as well I'm sure), doctors recognize that people want to be able to smoke dope without being prosecuted, & they're happy to oblige. I believe it's a 200$ yearly fee in California, Cedar could probably verify that.

FinsNCanes
08-03-2012, 11:28 PM
You could claim insomnia and get one, they give out medical cards pretty liberally in California (probably other places as well I'm sure), doctors recognize that people want to be able to smoke dope without being prosecuted, & they're happy to oblige. I believe it's a 200$ yearly fee in California, Cedar could probably verify that.

I think AZ might be the next big MMJ state. I couldn't live in CA..too busy for me and I'm sick of the heat. I know NC it isn't legal by any means, but I do know a lot of people smoke in the WNC area (Asheville is kind of like a small stoner city), and the locals around there tell me they dont have the money to fly choppers around. The guy told me I was safer there than in CO.

I could easily claim insomnia although I'd say my anxiety is the worst. I'm sure 100's of people try claiming insomnia and even anxiety most of the time. The medication they have me on though makes me void of any emotion, and that is coming from people I know lol.

I do get what I'd consider decent **** down this way, but it get's expensive and having to go through 20 year old kids isn't really fun for me.

rob19
08-03-2012, 11:54 PM
Alaska - 1 oz usable; 6 plants (3 mature, 3 immature)
Arizona - 2.5 oz usable; 0-12 plants
California - 8 oz usable; 6 mature or 12 immature plants
Colorado - 2 oz usable; 6 plants (3 mature, 3 immature)
Connecticut - One-month supply (exact amount to be determined)
DC - 2 oz dried; limits on other forms to be determined
Delaware - 6 oz usable
Hawaii - 3 oz usable; 7 plants (3 mature, 4 immature)
Maine - 2.5 oz usable; 6 plants
Michigan - 2.5 oz usable; 12 plants
Montana - 1 oz usable; 4 plants (mature); 12 seedlings
Nevada - 1 oz usable; 7 plants (3 mature, 4 immature)
New Jersey - 2 oz usable
New Mexico - 6 oz usable; 16 plants (4 mature, 12 immature)
Oregon - 24 oz usable; 24 plants (6 mature, 18 immature)24 oz usable; 24 plants (6 mature, 18 immature)
Rhode Island - 2.5 oz usable; 12 plants
Vermont - 2 oz usable; 9 plants (2 mature, 7 immature)
Washington - 24 oz usable; 15 plants
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I plan on moving out of Florida as well. California is my first choice, not a big city like L.A, or San Fran, but a quieter spot. Colorado, Oregon, & Montana would be on my short-list as well.

It really is a pain in the ass to have to buy my weed from some of the people I've had to deal with in the past. Really is a box of chocolates type situation until you find a group of dealers you trust, never know if it's going to be quality, or if he's going to short you... pain in the ass. I can get better quality weed in California for cheaper than what most people are selling it for down here in Miami.

I hate to hear about all those negative side effects of pharma meds, I've heard cannabis can possibly cure epilepsy. You might be able to get off those meds all together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK7MsEDYHZo

Dolphins9954
08-04-2012, 12:03 AM
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FinsNCanes
08-04-2012, 12:06 AM
Alaska - 1 oz usable; 6 plants (3 mature, 3 immature)
Arizona - 2.5 oz usable; 0-12 plants
California - 8 oz usable; 6 mature or 12 immature plants
Colorado - 2 oz usable; 6 plants (3 mature, 3 immature)
Connecticut - One-month supply (exact amount to be determined)
DC - 2 oz dried; limits on other forms to be determined
Delaware - 6 oz usable
Hawaii - 3 oz usable; 7 plants (3 mature, 4 immature)
Maine - 2.5 oz usable; 6 plants
Michigan - 2.5 oz usable; 12 plants
Montana - 1 oz usable; 4 plants (mature); 12 seedlings
Nevada - 1 oz usable; 7 plants (3 mature, 4 immature)
New Jersey - 2 oz usable
New Mexico - 6 oz usable; 16 plants (4 mature, 12 immature)
Oregon - 24 oz usable; 24 plants (6 mature, 18 immature)24 oz usable; 24 plants (6 mature, 18 immature)
Rhode Island - 2.5 oz usable; 12 plants
Vermont - 2 oz usable; 9 plants (2 mature, 7 immature)
Washington - 24 oz usable; 15 plants
--

I plan on moving out of Florida as well. California is my first choice, not a big city like L.A, or San Fran, but a quieter spot. Colorado, Oregon, & Montana would be on my short-list as well.

It really is a pain in the ass to have to buy my weed from some of the people I've had to deal with in the past. Really is a box of chocolates type situation until you find a group of dealers you trust, never know if it's going to be quality, or if he's going to short you... pain in the ass. I can get better quality weed in California for cheaper than what most people are selling it for down here in Miami.

I hate to hear about all those negative side effects of pharma meds, I've heard cannabis can possibly cure epilepsy. You might be able to get off those meds all together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK7MsEDYHZo

Oh, how I feel your pain..trust me. Bought a quarter for 100 just the other day through my girls brother's connect. Anyway, got home..5.5g. I did get my money "worth" back though, but it's the whole ****ing point. I think Marijuana does "help" and here is my story why I think this is the case although there isn't a ton of evidence to prove.

Had seizures every few years or so until I started smoking when I was like 17 or 18, started a bit late. Anyway, was pretty much an avid smoker afterwards, intially just started to help me sleep, but it's a fun activity so I just kept smoking with friends, etc (was never a huge drinker like most ppl). Smoked roughly every day for a long time up until I was 23, got busted for DUI, was on probation and couldn't smoke for a year. Oddly enough, that year is the year I first had another seizure in a long time (since I was like 19). Been smoking strong ever since (probably daily...it has to be) since then and haven't had any issues.

I'm not saying that is by far a ton of evidence, but it's just funny how the timeframes kind of work (they have my ass on Tegretol) and when I asked my physican last time I was there if there is anything else I could use/try/look into he says "Well, it's working so let's just keep you on it". Yeah, thanks..for all the side effects.

I just want to find some like old war vet who sells weed.

rob19
08-04-2012, 12:13 AM
Oh, how I feel your pain..trust me. Bought a quarter for 100 just the other day through my girls brother's connect. Anyway, got home..5.5g. I did get my money "worth" back though, but it's the whole ****ing point. I think Marijuana does "help" and here is my story why I think this is the case although there isn't a ton of evidence to prove.

Had seizures every few years or so until I started smoking when I was like 17 or 18, started a bit late. Anyway, was pretty much an avid smoker afterwards, intially just started to help me sleep, but it's a fun activity so I just kept smoking with friends, etc (was never a huge drinker like most ppl). Smoked roughly every day for a long time up until I was 23, got busted for DUI, was on probation and couldn't smoke for a year. Oddly enough, that year is the year I first had another seizure in a long time (since I was like 19). Been smoking strong ever since (probably daily...it has to be) since then and haven't had any issues.

I'm not saying that is by far a ton of evidence, but it's just funny how the timeframes kind of work (they have my ass on Tegretol) and when I asked my physican last time I was there if there is anything else I could use/try/look into he says "Well, it's working so let's just keep you on it". Yeah, thanks..for all the side effects.

I just want to find some like old war vet who sells weed.

Really is a sad thing that more people haven't woken up. You'd figure with the internet that eventually the truth will get out, 17 states and counting so far. DEA really is fighting it like mad though (see California), most of their busts are on pot-smokers and sellers. The legalization of pot basically means the demise of the DEA.

JCane
08-05-2012, 01:47 PM
good. tell me liberals, what has marijuana done for societty other than creating unemployed stoner occupy wall street protesters?

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2012/08/tumblr_m88iy2KAlL1qdvatvo1_500-1.jpg

cmax13
08-06-2012, 08:05 PM
i've been going to my dealer since 1985, same dude, same quality. anytime i smoke with anyone, they want to know if i can get them some. it's expensive, but well worth it.

and to not get shorted, invest in a cheap scale and some calibrated weights (i have 1/8, 1/4 and 1/2 oz.). i bring them to my boy's house, and calibrate in front of him, viola, never get ripped off. just ripped.

scale $80, weights $60, case $30, never getting ripped off, priceless! :)

my opinion, for what it's worth.

COphinphan89
08-06-2012, 11:57 PM
Luckily I live in a MMJ state so anyone with a brain stem can get it if they want it. We're gonna try and legalize it in November. Hopefully we get a good ballot measure here unlike other places.

SkapePhin
08-07-2012, 12:13 AM
Caffeine is the gateway drug...

CANDolphan
08-07-2012, 04:49 PM
I need to get the **** out of Florida ugh

cmax13
08-08-2012, 04:41 PM
no need to get out of florida. organize, gather signatures and vote legalization into law!

rock the vote.