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MiamiDolphin618
08-11-2012, 05:54 PM
This next draft is pretty deep at some positions we need help at. Legadu and Chad are our starting WRs at the moment...not only is that not a good thing but they are also both on 1 year deals. We need to pony up and look at getting Tannehill someone to develop with..or a couple. Here is my preliminary list of WRs

1. Keenan Allen - Cal
2. Marquess Wilson - Wash St.
3. Robert Woods - USC
4. Andre Debose - Florida
5. Justin Hunter - Tenn
6. Da'Rick Rodgers - Tenn
7. Stedman Bailey - WV
8. Tavon Austin - WV
9. Ryan Swope - Texas AM
10. Kenny Stills - Oklahoma

These are my top 10 guys...before the season. Im sure there are some under the radar guys but this list is pretty much higher profile guys that I know about because Ive seen them play. Most of these guys are only juniors so they may or may not come out. Id say the top 3 on this list are all first rounders..and then after that its anyone's guess. What do you guys think of this list and what does yours look like??

SF Dolphin Fan
08-11-2012, 09:56 PM
If he can stay healthy, I think Justin Hunter will battle Keenan Allen to be the first wide receiver drafted. I really like both players a lot and will keep an eye on wide receivers coming out in 2013 as this looks like a big need area for Miami. I still think, in the base case scenario, that the Dolphins can find a good wide receiver in free agency and then concentrate on adding pass rushers and secondary help in the early rounds of the draft.

MiamiDolphin618
08-11-2012, 10:40 PM
If he can stay healthy, I think Justin Hunter will battle Keenan Allen to be the first wide receiver drafted. I really like both players a lot and will keep an eye on wide receivers coming out in 2013 as this looks like a big need area for Miami. I still think, in the base case scenario, that the Dolphins can find a good wide receiver in free agency and then concentrate on adding pass rushers and secondary help in the early rounds of the draft.
I like Hunter a lot...but thats why I have him down a bit is because of the injury concerns. I do agree pass rusher is a huge need and there are some studs in this class...as for the secondary I think I would rather add a vet to the secondary and get Tanny and young guy to grow with. Depending on where we pick, who's on the board, etc..I think a pass rusher and a WR have to be might high on the list

SF Dolphin Fan
08-12-2012, 12:01 PM
I like Hunter a lot...but thats why I have him down a bit is because of the injury concerns. I do agree pass rusher is a huge need and there are some studs in this class...as for the secondary I think I would rather add a vet to the secondary and get Tanny and young guy to grow with. Depending on where we pick, who's on the board, etc..I think a pass rusher and a WR have to be might high on the listThat makes a lot of sense. Pass rusher, wide receiver and safety look to be the biggest areas of need heading into the season. Could also be corner if Vontae Davis and Sean Smith don't take their games to the next level. But, I'd definitely love to have a player like Keenan Allen and give Ryan Tannehill a potential game changer at wide receiver. I kind of think the Dolphins would go pass rusher and then target a wide receiver or safety in rounds 2 and 3. Of course, we have picks to trade up so maybe we could get a stud wr and pass rusher.

MiamiDolphin618
08-12-2012, 06:24 PM
Exactly. Lots of needs...but the way I see it this franchise is going nowhere without Tanny playing at a high level. You can keep drafting defensive players all day but unless this unit becomes extraordinarily elite...we still won't win a SB. Not saying we should ignore the D...obviously Id love another top notch pass rusher...a ball hawking safety..and a lock down corner. BUT..I think getting Tannehill weapons is far more important to his development..which in turn is far more important to this franchise. Hell...I would love to get our hands on Wallace or Bowe AND get a Keenan Allen. Give this kid all the weapons we can. Then get a pass rusher and safety in the 2nd and 3rd. Obviously this is super early because maybe some guys step up...Im just going off of how I feel right now

SF Dolphin Fan
08-12-2012, 11:48 PM
Exactly. Lots of needs...but the way I see it this franchise is going nowhere without Tanny playing at a high level. You can keep drafting defensive players all day but unless this unit becomes extraordinarily elite...we still won't win a SB. Not saying we should ignore the D...obviously Id love another top notch pass rusher...a ball hawking safety..and a lock down corner. BUT..I think getting Tannehill weapons is far more important to his development..which in turn is far more important to this franchise. Hell...I would love to get our hands on Wallace or Bowe AND get a Keenan Allen. Give this kid all the weapons we can. Then get a pass rusher and safety in the 2nd and 3rd. Obviously this is super early because maybe some guys step up...Im just going off of how I feel right nowYeah, right now wide receiver looks pretty bleak for Miami. Could change, but likely even if one guy like Roberto Wallace emerges we could still use another top guy. I definitely hear you. I might wait on secondary help a little longer and make sure we get a pass rusher and wide receiver. I see this as the draft to take advantage of all the potential pass rush talent coming out. We have no chance against the Tom Brady's of the world if we can't pressure him constantly. I'm very curious to see how Olivier Vernon plays this season. Who are the top wr's who you think make it to round 2?

MiamiDolphin618
08-13-2012, 12:02 AM
I hope Vernon shows well..but Im certainly for getting more pass rushers...you can never have enough. As for the wideouts..its early but I think Allen, Wilson, and Woods are all locks to go in Rd 1 barring something unforeseen. I think if Hunter stays healthy he probably goes in the 1st..but he could be a 2nd rounder. Rodgers, Debose, and Bailey I think would all be present good value in the 2nd round. Debose is a speedy deep threat..legit 4.3 guy who would open a lot up. Rodgers is a big bodied guy who I think can be an impact player at the next level. But I think Bailey might be the best fit...crisp route runner...fluid..speed to beat you deep too. I like Swope a lot..obviously he has the chemistry with Tanny already..but I think his production will drop this year and he might be a 3rd round guy...we will see.

SF Dolphin Fan
08-13-2012, 11:11 PM
I hope Vernon shows well..but Im certainly for getting more pass rushers...you can never have enough. As for the wideouts..its early but I think Allen, Wilson, and Woods are all locks to go in Rd 1 barring something unforeseen. I think if Hunter stays healthy he probably goes in the 1st..but he could be a 2nd rounder. Rodgers, Debose, and Bailey I think would all be present good value in the 2nd round. Debose is a speedy deep threat..legit 4.3 guy who would open a lot up. Rodgers is a big bodied guy who I think can be an impact player at the next level. But I think Bailey might be the best fit...crisp route runner...fluid..speed to beat you deep too. I like Swope a lot..obviously he has the chemistry with Tanny already..but I think his production will drop this year and he might be a 3rd round guy...we will see.Could be some nice talent there in round 2. Honestly, that's where I see Miami taking a wide receiver. It's hard for me to imagine this regime taking one in the first, but then again we all said that about quarterback. If Hunter is there in the second that could be a great pick. A pass rusher in the first, Hunter in round 2 and then concentrate on the secondary. That said, how excited would you be if the Dolphins took Allen and Hunter?

MiamiDolphin618
08-13-2012, 11:34 PM
Could be some nice talent there in round 2. Honestly, that's where I see Miami taking a wide receiver. It's hard for me to imagine this regime taking one in the first, but then again we all said that about quarterback. If Hunter is there in the second that could be a great pick. A pass rusher in the first, Hunter in round 2 and then concentrate on the secondary. That said, how excited would you be if the Dolphins took Allen and Hunter?
There will be some serious talent at the DE position in this draft no doubt...and if you are staring a guy like Mingo or Werner in the face then thats hard to pass up...but I don't think we will be that bad this year.

Allen and Hunter would be amazing...but again I don't think we will be that bad. I think Allen is a top 10 pick probably. I would certainly not be against going WR in the first 2 rounds if they are the BPA or close to it. Like i said earlier...the success of this franchise is going to rely on Tannehill. He needs weapons...and Brian Hartline and Legadu are not going to cut it. Id like to hope someone like Wallace could step up..but the odds are against it. Look at what the Colts did...they have Wayne and Collie..and added Fleener, Allen, and Hilton. Redskins added Garcon and already have Moss and Hankerson.

SF Dolphin Fan
08-14-2012, 01:07 PM
I'm an optimist, but I can easily see this team going 5-11. I think the team is heading in the right direction and I love the defensive line, which is probably top 5 in the NFL. But there are so many question marks, new philosophies on both sides of the ball, so many young players starting for the first time or playing key roles. In other words, I think Miami could be in a position to draft top 5 with Mingo, Werner, Allen, and Reed among the choices. I do agree that Allen looks like a top 10 in the early stages. I am by no means a draft expert, but when you look at guys like Floyd and Blackmon from last year I think Allen is comparable talent-wise.

MiamiDolphin618
08-14-2012, 01:34 PM
Im not as high on Reid as most...solid player but he is no Eric Berry IMO. Im curious to see what type of year Werner has and where his draft stock lies. I see a great player...but he is still somewhat flying under the radar as far as being a top 10 guy. Mingo...that kid is going top 10..probably top 5 just based off his tools alone. I like Allen more than both Floyd and Blackmon honestly...

SF Dolphin Fan
08-14-2012, 02:11 PM
I haven't seen enough of Reid to make a real evaluation, but he's one player I definitely want to watch this year. Those LSU vs. Alabama games are must see for sure. That's high praise for Allen, but I can see why you feel that way. He has the ability to make those great plays that only the best do. As an aside, but related, I was watching America's Game yesterday about the 1975 Steelers and they were showing some of the amazing catches Lynn Swann made in the super bowl vs. Dallas. One of the Steelers seconday guys was quoted as saying (paraphrasing here) that it was a good thing Swann had such a great game because Dallas was that good. In other words, you take those plays away and the Cowboys win. You need those types of players and right now, besides Bush, I don't see anyone with that game changing ability on offense.

ckparrothead
08-16-2012, 05:40 PM
This next draft is pretty deep at some positions we need help at. Legadu and Chad are our starting WRs at the moment...not only is that not a good thing but they are also both on 1 year deals. We need to pony up and look at getting Tannehill someone to develop with..or a couple. Here is my preliminary list of WRs

1. Keenan Allen - Cal
2. Marquess Wilson - Wash St.
3. Robert Woods - USC
4. Andre Debose - Florida
5. Justin Hunter - Tenn
6. Da'Rick Rodgers - Tenn
7. Stedman Bailey - WV
8. Tavon Austin - WV
9. Ryan Swope - Texas AM
10. Kenny Stills - Oklahoma

These are my top 10 guys...before the season. Im sure there are some under the radar guys but this list is pretty much higher profile guys that I know about because Ive seen them play. Most of these guys are only juniors so they may or may not come out. Id say the top 3 on this list are all first rounders..and then after that its anyone's guess. What do you guys think of this list and what does yours look like??

You're probably the only person aside from myself that has Keenan Allen and Marquess Wilson as #1 and #2.

mrbunglez
08-16-2012, 07:06 PM
I'm really hoping we pick up Swope, he knows the system and the QB.

MiamiDolphin618
08-16-2012, 11:54 PM
You're probably the only person aside from myself that has Keenan Allen and Marquess Wilson as #1 and #2.
Well maybe right now...but I feel pretty confident that it won't be too long before a lot more people have Allen and Wilson at the top of their board. Lots of people overrate Woods a bit I think...which I think he's a fine receiver...just isn't quite as complete or well rounded as Allen and Wilson IMO.

ChambersWI
08-17-2012, 11:44 AM
Whats funny about Keenen Allen was he was initially Bama's prize commit... as a safety. Dude would have made an AMAZING DB. I didn't see much of Cal last year, but I remember him being amazing as a Frosh.

A name to keep an eye on is RS Sophomore Kyle Prater from Northwestern. Same recruiting class as Woods but redshirted after getting hurt and he wanted to move closer to home. He also never really wanted to play for Lane Kiffen and almost decommitted from USC but felt that he should follow through with his commitment.

TedSlimmJr
08-17-2012, 12:01 PM
The spot for the #2 WR behind Keenan Allen is wide open in my estimation, and will continue to be as of draft day. I don't see there being a consensus agreement on that at any point.

Eric Berry was on campus in Knoxville this summer working out and he raved about Hunter, who appears to be fully back from the knee injury for the most part. Apparently Hunter beat him during some reps. Berry called him pro-ready right now.

I have no problem buying that.

ticophin
08-18-2012, 11:47 AM
If we come out of next year´s draft with DE Werner, and 2 WR´s from that list (Bayley, Swope for example), we might be moving in the right direction...

MiamiDolphin618
08-18-2012, 12:49 PM
Even after the preseason games Im still confident this team will win 6 or more games...but maybe not. If they are as bad as they look and we end up with a top 5 pick but Tannehill shows that he is our guy...we need to hope that someone who really needs a QB is willing to move up at a steep price ala Washington. Guys like Barkley and Logan Thomas will be in high demand.

ckparrothead
08-19-2012, 02:42 AM
You don't want to force any position. If Miami's situation really is as bleak as it looks right now (rookie QB, a bunch of no talent receivers, suddenly leaky defense)...then we're picking high. You've got to get the highest impact player you can regardless of position.

It won't be Logan Thomas or Matt Barkley or Tyler Wilson.

Could be Keenan Allen. Could be Barkevious Mingo or Bjoern Werner. Hard to say.

Flip Tanneflop
08-19-2012, 11:23 AM
Just so you guys know, Stedman Bailey is a beast and will be a great NFL WR. I watch almost every WVU game. And dont get the idea Im some WVU homer and thats the reason I think he will be good in the league.... Im not. TBH, I watch almost all of their games just to hate on them. So the fact that Im saying he will be good in the league suggests a lot.

This guy has real NFL skills. Every game I watch them he is running his routes real crisp and makes great catches especially around the sides and corners of the endzone. He has great body control and knows how to adjust to balls in the air and make his QB look good.

If you ask these clueless WVU fans around here they will tell you that Geno Smith and Tavon Austin are the best players on the team. Well, they put up the most numbers.....in college. Stedman Bailey is the best player they have and it will show in the league. These homers still think Pat White and Major Harris are great players while they hardly speak of Marc Bulger who might be the best QB they ever had(Oliver Luck, Jeff Hostettler).

Tavon Austin can play in the league I think. Im just not sure he has the NFL talent that Bailey has. A lot of people compare Austin to Percy Harvin. Could be a fair comparison. Austin is certainly capable of being a playmaker in the NFL. Im just not sold on his ability to run crisp routes. Dosent mean he cant be effective in the league though. The guy can certainly make people miss in the open field on any level and has tremendous speed. He dosent have the body control and hands of Bailey though.

Geno Smith wont play in the league. If you ask people around here, they think he is 1st round material.... :lol: While he is certainly better than Pat White, he does have some throwing ability, just not enough to be effective in the NFL. He could maybe be a mid to late round pick and possibly stick on the end of a roster. I just dont see him ever being a starter in the league. The guy has a ton of great weapons around him and an offense taylor made for anyone with a decent arm to put up huge numbers in a college game.

Id take Bailey in the 2nd round in a heartbeat. He's that good.

TedSlimmJr
08-19-2012, 02:37 PM
Just so you guys know, Stedman Bailey is a beast and will be a great NFL WR. I watch almost every WVU game. And dont get the idea Im some WVU homer and thats the reason I think he will be good in the league.... Im not. TBH, I watch almost all of their games just to hate on them. So the fact that Im saying he will be good in the league suggests a lot.

This guy has real NFL skills. Every game I watch them he is running his routes real crisp and makes great catches especially around the sides and corners of the endzone. He has great body control and knows how to adjust to balls in the air and make his QB look good.

If you ask these clueless WVU fans around here they will tell you that Geno Smith and Tavon Austin are the best players on the team. Well, they put up the most numbers.....in college. Stedman Bailey is the best player they have and it will show in the league. These homers still think Pat White and Major Harris are great players while they hardly speak of Marc Bulger who might be the best QB they ever had(Oliver Luck, Jeff Hostettler).

Tavon Austin can play in the league I think. Im just not sure he has the NFL talent that Bailey has. A lot of people compare Austin to Percy Harvin. Could be a fair comparison. Austin is certainly capable of being a playmaker in the NFL. Im just not sold on his ability to run crisp routes. Dosent mean he cant be effective in the league though. The guy can certainly make people miss in the open field on any level and has tremendous speed. He dosent have the body control and hands of Bailey though.

Geno Smith wont play in the league. If you ask people around here, they think he is 1st round material.... :lol: While he is certainly better than Pat White, he does have some throwing ability, just not enough to be effective in the NFL. He could maybe be a mid to late round pick and possibly stick on the end of a roster. I just dont see him ever being a starter in the league. The guy has a ton of great weapons around him and an offense taylor made for anyone with a decent arm to put up huge numbers in a college game.

Id take Bailey in the 2nd round in a heartbeat. He's that good.



You're getting too good at this....

http://www.finheaven.com/forums/showthread.php?318883-Slimm-s-2013-prospects-(underclassman)/page2

MiamiDolphin618
08-19-2012, 03:12 PM
Could be Keenan Allen. Could be Barkevious Mingo or Bjoern Werner. Hard to say.
If I could pick the three players I would want for Miami...those three are my top choices...at least right now.

WVUBOB
08-19-2012, 03:46 PM
Just so you guys know, Stedman Bailey is a beast and will be a great NFL WR. I watch almost every WVU game. And dont get the idea Im some WVU homer and thats the reason I think he will be good in the league.... Im not. TBH, I watch almost all of their games just to hate on them. So the fact that Im saying he will be good in the league suggests a lot.

This guy has real NFL skills. Every game I watch them he is running his routes real crisp and makes great catches especially around the sides and corners of the endzone. He has great body control and knows how to adjust to balls in the air and make his QB look good.

If you ask these clueless WVU fans around here they will tell you that Geno Smith and Tavon Austin are the best players on the team. Well, they put up the most numbers.....in college. Stedman Bailey is the best player they have and it will show in the league. These homers still think Pat White and Major Harris are great players while they hardly speak of Marc Bulger who might be the best QB they ever had(Oliver Luck, Jeff Hostettler).

Tavon Austin can play in the league I think. Im just not sure he has the NFL talent that Bailey has. A lot of people compare Austin to Percy Harvin. Could be a fair comparison. Austin is certainly capable of being a playmaker in the NFL. Im just not sold on his ability to run crisp routes. Dosent mean he cant be effective in the league though. The guy can certainly make people miss in the open field on any level and has tremendous speed. He dosent have the body control and hands of Bailey though.

Geno Smith wont play in the league. If you ask people around here, they think he is 1st round material.... :lol: While he is certainly better than Pat White, he does have some throwing ability, just not enough to be effective in the NFL. He could maybe be a mid to late round pick and possibly stick on the end of a roster. I just dont see him ever being a starter in the league. The guy has a ton of great weapons around him and an offense taylor made for anyone with a decent arm to put up huge numbers in a college game.

Id take Bailey in the 2nd round in a heartbeat. He's that good.

WV, I always read your threads, not always agreeing, but l respect & enjoy the way you express yourself in print

re: Bailey he is a rs jr and could come back next yr which I doubt because Smith won`t be there throwing to him

It`s meaningless to speculate where Smith or or any body else will be drafted at without seeing how season plays out. Stock rises & fall.....injuries, performance, wins etc
But to say "Smith won`t play in the league" is a rather bold statement, altho you do qualify that later saying he may make a roster. Still a head scratcher

My prediction: If Geno plays on par like last season & they win he`s a top ten pick, maybe even ending up here

ps: Please don`t bring up Pat White my scars are just now beginning to heal & btw Slaton doesn`t blow watch and be humbled

SF Dolphin Fan
08-19-2012, 06:14 PM
You don't want to force any position. If Miami's situation really is as bleak as it looks right now (rookie QB, a bunch of no talent receivers, suddenly leaky defense)...then we're picking high. You've got to get the highest impact player you can regardless of position.

It won't be Logan Thomas or Matt Barkley or Tyler Wilson.

Could be Keenan Allen. Could be Barkevious Mingo or Bjoern Werner. Hard to say.Yeah, I think we'll be picking high. Really, besides the defensive line is there any unit for Miami that's above average? Maybe linebackers with Karlos Dansby and Kevin Burnett, but that unit needs some youth. Looks like major holes at wide receiver and in the secondary. Would love to get a pass rusher early, but also love what I've seen of Keenan Allen. I just wonder what receivers might make it to round 2 or close enough where the Dolphins could engineer a trade up. Definitely looking like a major rebuild in Miami.

Flip Tanneflop
08-19-2012, 06:34 PM
You're getting too good at this....

http://www.finheaven.com/forums/showthread.php?318883-Slimm-s-2013-prospects-(underclassman)/page2

Thanks Dr Slimm.

I donno. I just dont watch that much college football. Like Ive said, I watch almost all the WVU games and I love watching big time SEC matchups. I especially love it when the SEC features a great game at 330 on CBS and then another later that night on ESPN. Typically, thats every week. :lol:

I just dont watch too much of the other matchups because college football is generally mismatches galore. I keep up with it enough to know where to clean up when the bowl matchups are announced.

I also know when I do watch enough of these players, I can generally tell whether or not he can play in the league. Stedman Bailey can play in the league. The two guys you have ranked ahead of him I havent really watched enough of to know whether I feel they are better. I know who they are, have seen highlights, and have proabably watched a full game or parts of games they have been in, but havent focused on the player and tried to gage whether or not I think he can play in the league. For those reasons, I cant really rank these players the way you do. I just know Id take Bailey in the 2nd round all day. Hell, he may even be first round material when things are settled.

I just notice when watching him how he manuvers his body along the sidelines when the ball is in the air. Its league talent. He has great hands and his routes are pretty crisp. He is lethal in the endzone around the corners and along the sides. Hes real tough to stop in a one on one situation like that. If you throw him a decent ball on a fade, he will beat the defender to it everytime. The way he adjust while its in the air is brilliant. He will score TDs in the NFL. He's not the fastest guy, but hes fast enough and the skills he does have are what counts in the NFL.


And just like I told you with the WVU homers. They love some Geno Smith. WVUbob is a perfect example. Now, while Im not saying Geno is a bum(I will say he blows based on my special qualifications.... being extremely overhyped and overrated will prompt me to say someone blows.... especially if they get more credit than players on their team who are better than they are) he just dosent have the NFL skills. Sure, he's going to throw for a ton of yards. Yea, his arm is pretty good. But, hes going to light up a Big 12 where defense is non existant and he is going to be playing in a QB friendly system with 2 or 3 of the best offensive weapons in the country. Bailey is going to be a good pro and Tavon Austin is straight up lethal vs college level talent. All you have to do is get that kid the ball in open space and its a wrap. Even LSUs defense couldnt contain Tavon Austin.

Geno Smith is a good college QB. Maybe he can hang on a roster in the league for a few years, especially if he gets drafted high. But, I dont see him being a consistant starter in the NFL. Not even close really. I dont think he can locate the ball consistantly in the tight windows a QB must be able to hit in the NFL. He has a nice margin for error right now with the players he has in the system he is in.

So like WVUbob says, maybe he does light it up and go top 10.... I donno. There might be a GM foolish enough to fall in love with the statistics. But, if a guy really knows football he could watch a few Geno Smith games and see he dosent have the arm to win in the NFL. Throwing to wide open guys all day is a lot easier than hitting guys on a dime after having the foresight to know exactly where they are going to break open and lead them to the spot with the throw.

So thats why I hate on Geno Smith a lot. I get ****ing sick of hearing how great he is all the time. Reality is he's pretty good. But, around here he gets hyped like hes the greatest **** ever. **** heem. Thats why I say he ****ing blows. If fans knew what they were talking about, they would be talking about how much of a beast Stedman Bailey is.

Like I say, people around here still want to talk about Pat White and Major Harris and **** all over Marc Bulger. Its crazy. Half of them dont remember who the **** Marc Bulger is because he didnt put up huge numbers against **** teams like Rutgers and Marshall. Back in Bulger's day, WVU actually played some quality non conference opponents more often than now. Therefore we would go 7-4 or 8-3 instead of 10-2 every year like now. Im sorry, Im just not impressed with Pat White rushing for 300 yards on Liberty. Get real. They scored 70 last year on Clemson. Big ****ing deal. CLEMSON BLOWS!!!! Bulger used to play good teams every other week and wasnt concerned with running the ball as a QB.

goonies
08-20-2012, 12:50 AM
I guarantee you if Ireland is still gm he will not draft any of these players.

Fin_Frenzy_84
08-20-2012, 01:01 AM
Give me Bowe next year in free agency. Then draft Justin hunter in the first . Lemonier in the second.and honey badger in the third.

ckparrothead
08-20-2012, 11:24 AM
Stedman Bailey looks eerily like Steve Smith (CAR) to me, and I agree with the sentiment that he's the best NFL prospect when compared with Geno Smith and Tavon Austin.

I do remember Slimm bringing him up a lot, months ago. That was a good call, a good find. When I sat down to watch Stedman, I had to admit there's a lot more that needs to be said about the guy than you find most of the Draft industry saying, right now.

Stedman is on my short list of receivers that I like a lot. The list includes Keenan Allen, Marquess Wilson, Aaron Mellette, Justin Hunter, Terrance Williams and Andre Debose. These are just guys that I'm pretty sure will end up good value, one way or another.

If there weren't so many consistent rumors of Da'Rick Rogers being a major headcase, he'd be on it. It's not that I don't like Robert Woods, but I get the feeling he's going to be drafted higher than his real value.

I've heard a lot of good things about Aaron Dobson and I still have to take a good hard look at him. I like Denard Robinson as a WR prospect quite a bit.

ANUFan
08-20-2012, 11:45 AM
Stedman Bailey looks eerily like Steve Smith (CAR) to me, and I agree with the sentiment that he's the best NFL prospect when compared with Geno Smith and Tavon Austin.

I do remember Slimm bringing him up a lot, months ago. That was a good call, a good find. When I sat down to watch Stedman, I had to admit there's a lot more that needs to be said about the guy than you find most of the Draft industry saying, right now.

Stedman is on my short list of receivers that I like a lot. The list includes Keenan Allen, Marquess Wilson, Aaron Mellette, Justin Hunter, Terrance Williams and Andre Debose. These are just guys that I'm pretty sure will end up good value, one way or another.

If there weren't so many consistent rumors of Da'Rick Rogers being a major headcase, he'd be on it. It's not that I don't like Robert Woods, but I get the feeling he's going to be drafted higher than his real value.

I've heard a lot of good things about Aaron Dobson and I still have to take a good hard look at him. I like Denard Robinson as a WR prospect quite a bit.

Really good call. Seems to have a similar type of attitude as well....

ckparrothead
08-20-2012, 01:50 PM
Really good call. Seems to have a similar type of attitude as well....

That's what makes Steve Smith who he is, the attitude. That's what I see in Stedman, he's not just a smaller guy that can run like he's controlled by a joystick. He's got that attitude.

WVUBOB
08-20-2012, 08:01 PM
Stedman Bailey looks eerily like Steve Smith (CAR) to me, and I agree with the sentiment that he's the best NFL prospect when compared with Geno Smith and Tavon Austin.

I do remember Slimm bringing him up a lot, months ago. That was a good call, a good find. When I sat down to watch Stedman, I had to admit there's a lot more that needs to be said about the guy than you find most of the Draft industry saying, right now.

Stedman is on my short list of receivers that I like a lot. The list includes Keenan Allen, Marquess Wilson, Aaron Mellette, Justin Hunter, Terrance Williams and Andre Debose. These are just guys that I'm pretty sure will end up good value, one way or another.

If there weren't so many consistent rumors of Da'Rick Rogers being a major headcase, he'd be on it. It's not that I don't like Robert Woods, but I get the feeling he's going to be drafted higher than his real value.

I've heard a lot of good things about Aaron Dobson and I still have to take a good hard look at him. I like Denard Robinson as a WR prospect quite a bit.

Bailey is one hellava receiver but in no way does he get drafted ahead of Smith (IMHO)

ckparrothead
08-21-2012, 10:22 AM
I don't care where he gets drafted, I care whether he's going to be a better football player, and I think he's going to be a better football player.

GaryIndiana
08-23-2012, 09:36 AM
Would love to see us draft a playmaker in that position next year?

Also, what kind of receivers suites RT's game?

ChambersWI
08-23-2012, 09:41 AM
there is a thread in the draft forum that has a good list, but too be nice and answer the question (in no particular order)

1.Robert Woods Jr USC
2.Keenan Allen Jr Cal
3.Da'Rick Rodgers Jr Tennessee
4.Marques Wilson Jr, Washington State
5.Ryan Swope SR, Texas A&M
6.Terrence Williams Sr, Baylor
7.Justin Hunter Jr, Tennessee
8.Stedman Bailey JR, West Virginia

Those are just a few that are draft eligible.

kloud_9
08-23-2012, 10:10 AM
That's a lot of juniors

SF Dolphin Fan
08-23-2012, 11:31 AM
My two favorite heading into the season are Keenan Allen and Justin Hunter. If the draft were held today, I think Allen would go top 10 and Hunter somewhere in the top 20. There's a good list and discussion a couple of threads down.

datruth55
08-23-2012, 01:24 PM
Da'Rick Rodgers was suspended by Tennessee. He already had character issues going into the season so this only hurts his case even more.

finsfanjay13
08-24-2012, 10:21 AM
Rogers has been suspended indefinitely by Tennessee. That definitely hurts him and should give Hunter huge numbers this year.

ckparrothead
08-24-2012, 11:29 AM
Well that certainly lends more credibility to the multitude of people that have told me he's a dick, which was my biggest discomfort with him aside from perhaps lack of deep speed.

LouPhinFan
08-26-2012, 02:05 PM
I know he's just a sophomore and won't come out this season but keep an eye on DeVante Parker from the University of Louisville. He's got great hands and is athletic as all get out (could have played basketball for Rick Pitino if he wanted to) with good size (6'3" over 200 lbs). He lead the team in receiving TDs last season with 6 on only 18 receptions as a true freshman. Our WR corp is super deep this season and he's the leader of the pack.

EJay
08-28-2012, 08:17 PM
I really wish Marqise Lee (http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/lee_marqise00.html) was draft eligible. I think that kid may be the best of all the names mentioned here when it's all said and done. That said, I really do like Robert Woods a lot, too. Living in California and being an avid HS football fan, I've seen Woods, Lee and George Farmer (all from the same HS) play a bit more than most.

Kdawg954
08-28-2012, 09:50 PM
Thanks for the list, I know the names but I haven't really watched any of the guys to the point of knowing if I think they have the goods or not. I'll definitely keep an eye out for these guys going into the season.

MacGruber1
08-29-2012, 08:45 PM
Keenan Allen and Woods I've seen. I will take a look at this kid from Wash St. All this is probably fruitless though. Creep Ireland doesn't seem to have a clue what a playmaker looks like, nor the grapes to swing on one high

Valandui
08-30-2012, 05:17 AM
I have a feeling we'll go hard after Ryan Swope next year. May not end up with him, but we'll be after him.

bivster
09-02-2012, 12:40 AM
Woods could start today for the Fins

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depends on free agency but they need help everywhere.

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He is awesome

dolfan91
09-03-2012, 06:28 AM
After his opening performance the other day Cordarelle Patterson sure looks like an awesome talent. Can anyone tell me more about his Chances in the 2013 Draft. This kid really blew me away opening night, he reminds me a lot of Roddy White in terms of his body type and speed. Some other posters who have followed him say he has 4.3 speed. He blew past Amerson on a few occasions. Could he be another High 1st round talent coming out of Tennessee, and a possible option for Miami in round #1?

TedSlimmJr
09-03-2012, 11:27 AM
We need to see a lot more of Patterson to guage what his value would be as an underclassman in the upcoming draft. He had more impact on David Amerson's draft stock than anything else.

It's no coincidence that Da'Rick Rogers was kicked out so quickly..... they already knew what they had in Patterson. Tennessee was already going to count heavily on Patterson even before Rogers was kicked off the team because they felt he was better than Rogers anyway.

I'll know more about Patterson towards the end of the season after he's matched up with Johnthan Banks/Corey Broomfield, Dee Milliner, Andre Hal, etc....and potentially Tharold Simon in the SEC Championship Game if both teams were to make it that far.

Canadi-Phin
09-04-2012, 03:14 PM
Is it just me or does the two needs of our team, DE and WR, seem to be deep at the top this year. In a perfect world we could get a DE like Werner and a WR in the 2nd like Stedmen or whoever and I would be very please. Or two receivers and a DE. Damn we would look alot nicer. We will see what we really need as the year plays out.

datruth55
09-17-2012, 01:30 PM
We need to see a lot more of Patterson to guage what his value would be as an underclassman in the upcoming draft. He had more impact on David Amerson's draft stock than anything else.

It's no coincidence that Da'Rick Rogers was kicked out so quickly..... they already knew what they had in Patterson. Tennessee was already going to count heavily on Patterson even before Rogers was kicked off the team because they felt he was better than Rogers anyway.

I'll know more about Patterson towards the end of the season after he's matched up with Johnthan Banks/Corey Broomfield, Dee Milliner, Andre Hal, etc....and potentially Tharold Simon in the SEC Championship Game if both teams were to make it that far.
After watching the Florida/Tennessee game I was disappointed in Justin Hunter. He dropped some easy passes and got frustrated (and let it show) when Tyler Bray kept missing him on a lot of passes. Bray was woefully erratic in the game. However, Cordarrelle Patterson was phenomenal in that game. He made some incredible catches, adjusted well to the ball in the air, got separation off the LOS, made some impressive sideline catches, showed excellent concentration when catching the ball in traffic with a guy in his pocket. His only miscue was the deep one handed grab he failed to pull in but that would have been a spectacular catch anyway.

ckparrothead
09-17-2012, 02:06 PM
No coincidence that Connor Halliday gets in the game and suddenly Marquess Wilson is really good again.

MiamiDolphin618
09-17-2012, 02:43 PM
No coincidence that Connor Halliday gets in the game and suddenly Marquess Wilson is really good again.
Haha you have been talking up Halliday for quite a while if I recall. Anyways, it was nice to see Wilson have a breakout game. He is a solid prospect no doubt about it.

TedSlimmJr
09-17-2012, 09:42 PM
After watching the Florida/Tennessee game I was disappointed in Justin Hunter. He dropped some easy passes and got frustrated (and let it show) when Tyler Bray kept missing him on a lot of passes. Bray was woefully erratic in the game. However, Cordarrelle Patterson was phenomenal in that game. He made some incredible catches, adjusted well to the ball in the air, got separation off the LOS, made some impressive sideline catches, showed excellent concentration when catching the ball in traffic with a guy in his pocket. His only miscue was the deep one handed grab he failed to pull in but that would have been a spectacular catch anyway.


I was also a little disappointed with Hunter against Florida, although Patterson dropped some catchable balls early that he should've caught. There's not a receiver anyone can mention that I haven't seen dropping easy passes other than Stedman Bailey and Aaron Dobson.

One thing about Hunter is that he's still not 100% healthy. Tyler Bray's accuracy is so sporadic that Hunter often has to drop completely to the ground to catch the football when there's nobody within 10 yards of him. All those run-after-catch yards are routinely lost due to Bray's inaccuracy.

The underrated receiver on that unit is Zach Rogers. That kid can play a little bit and I like him as a slot receiver prospect.

uk_dolfan
09-18-2012, 11:34 PM
What is the latest round that you guys think Swope will be avaliable?

dade
09-21-2012, 02:45 AM
I have never been in such ahh, and no doubt that Justin hunter us the best wide receiver in the country hands down period!!! His route running and hands, and oh my goodness his jumping ability is just stupid!!!
Watch the whole vid, they Show his games also, once you see this, you'll know why he is #1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5M09m2Sd5s&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Harry Csonka
09-21-2012, 07:27 AM
Justin Hunter has some amazing physical talent. That being said he might not even be the best wr on his team.

dade
09-21-2012, 11:02 AM
How do you figure that, rodgers ain't there any more, and that five star recruit 6"5 220 kid is not going to the draft. I'm talking bout right now he's in a class of his own, USC receivers never Hardly ever do
Anything in the pro level. Ima tell you right now if he runs a anywhere bear a 4.3 you alwikl
shoot up to a top 10 pick, I'd put my house on that. He makes randy moss catches and goes over the middle, soft hands and all, 40 inch vert. Like I said if u watch this while video you'll know why, continue watching. Like I said if he runs anywhere near a 4.3 philbin and who ever is Gm will be forced to take him, just cause by draft time he would have slug shot to the top if of everyone's board!!! My dream would be to draft Jarvis jones first and put a package of picks together and move back in the first and draft hunter!!! Which is very likely, So look out.

dade
09-21-2012, 11:12 AM
You hit that right on the nail, this draft is deep in pass rushers galour, getting thill
Weapons early would speed along his growth, a potent offence makes a
Good D a great D

Harry Csonka
09-22-2012, 06:14 AM
Dude it's called a highlight of course he looks like a beast. Keenan Allen Is a much better prospect And a better fit for us.

dade
09-22-2012, 01:28 PM
Based on what lol. Keep in touch with me, because I bet my sack that by seasons end, Justin hunter will be rated the top we by draft time. Woods is gonna get screwed because barkley looks like broccoli lol. Allen is nice and all, but at the end of the day Justin hunter is ready to take on and abuse Cb's at the next level! Mind he's gonna still do his thang with that bum bray throwing to him

Harry Csonka
09-22-2012, 10:27 PM
Hunter is injury prone as well, I'm not saying he isn't good but he is not the best, he could be potentially but so could a lo
t of guys.

dade
09-22-2012, 11:22 PM
A lot if guys Like who?? And there's no such thing as a damn "injury prone" it's whether you're lucky or not. Now a days people ce back from acl tears like its normal. And that's the only injury he's had. From talent stains point he'd come in and tear it from day one. No matches up to him as far as other receivers, he's just complete. I just hope people remember, because I would hate to miss out on a stud wideout, with crazy abilities! Great wideouts only come out once every 5 years or so'

dade
09-22-2012, 11:30 PM
Not bad, I'm with you on hunter. Freak of nature!!!

justdev7
09-27-2012, 12:14 PM
Keenan Allen is a monster. That guy NEEDS to be a fin

adrianbello360
10-02-2012, 08:37 PM
Kennan Allen over Hunter? No way , Hunter is a stud in EVERY ASPECT of his game. If we are picking and he is still on the board, we should run up to the podium faster than the redskins did for Orakpo.

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Also I like Marquess Wilson, good hands, great routes

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Someone to watch out for is Terrance Williams too. Big body, soft hands, great speed and great routes, kid is a big reason for RGIII being what he was back at Baylor

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Big Sleeper in Kenny Stills from OU, kid has the frame for the NFL, and great hands to go along with it too.