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NorFlaFin
09-03-2012, 09:17 PM
Tough break for the kid.

http://www.tomahawknation.com/2012/9/3/3290214/cbs-report-brandon-jenkins-to-miss-season-with-foot-injury

ckparrothead
09-03-2012, 09:35 PM
After watching the spring game I came to the conclusion Carradine is better anyway.

TedSlimmJr
09-03-2012, 09:42 PM
I've been in the process of re-watching several games from over the weekend and just finished re-watching FSU/Murray St. earlier this evening. This game wasn't a test for any of the talent on FSU's squad in any way, shape, or form. However, I expect FSU's defensive line rotation to be just fine.

Carradine is ready.

ckparrothead
09-03-2012, 10:26 PM
But will they have Carradine play Jenkins' position or will they move the slimmed down Werner over and keep Carradine where he's most comfortable? That's the question to me.

Think it may be the latter. Werner had 4 sacks against Murray State. James Gayle has one tonight versus Georgia Tech's triple option. Those are my top two DE/Pass Rushers in the country.

TedSlimmJr
09-03-2012, 10:47 PM
4 sacks is impressive no matter what, but it's still Murray St. I think they'll try to keep Werner where he can "read" zone plays. He plays so well with his eyes... he sees everything.

James Gayle has elite quickness and change of direction, the problem is he doesn't know how to finish plays consistently. He'll have his blocker beat again and again with a speed rush, then suddenly for no reason try to change directions and cross his face rather than dip his shoulder and finish the sack. He leaves more sacks on the field than any pass rusher I've seen....especially last year. Bud Foster has taken him off the field quite a bit tonight in favor of J.R. Collins (another underrated DE) because Collins is more disciplined maintaining leverage on the ball against this triple option attack.

Personally, I still like Mingo and Lemonier as the top two.

ckparrothead
09-03-2012, 10:55 PM
Lemonier filled out some. He looked pretty studly against Clemson. But most of his best rushes came over that Clemson right tackle who can't block his way out of a paper bag. I really wish Lemonier would just get off the snap better and finish his speed rushes. He seems better on stunts.

The pleasant surprise in that game was Dee Ford who looks every bit the super quick pass rush specialist, coming off herniated disc surgery which caused him to miss nearly all of 2011.

TedSlimmJr
09-03-2012, 11:07 PM
I believe Van Gordor utilized essentially the same method of a controlled pass rush against a mobile quarterback (Boyd) that Alabama used against Michigan. I watched Alabama choose not to sack Denard Robinson for the sake of maintaining gap control and forcing him to stay in the pocket and pass the football accurately to be effective, which isn't possible.

The obvious difference is that Auburn isn't strong enough up the middle for it to work to that extent.


Lemonier said he was up to 247 during the spring. I know I'll take him.

ckparrothead
09-03-2012, 11:15 PM
I didn't get that feel from the pass rush, especially from Dee Ford.

ckparrothead
09-03-2012, 11:20 PM
Incidentally the guy Bud Foster keeps subbing in for Gayle is Tyrel Wilson not J.R. Collins.

TedSlimmJr
09-03-2012, 11:36 PM
He subbed Collins in for Gayle several times throughout the game. Kid had a couple of huge TFL's including a big one right there towards the end. Foster didn't "keep" subbing Wilson in for Gayle, he subs when and where he needs.

TedSlimmJr
09-03-2012, 11:39 PM
And yes, Van Gordor had Lemonier reading the zone plays and maintaining leverage on the football when he's unblocked. Somebody has to. That's why he was productive in terms of sacks and TFL"s (4 total) despite the lack of quarterback "hurries".