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Spesh
09-12-2012, 02:18 PM
Fox News contributor and former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is urging Mitt Romney to make his criticism of President Barack Obama "personal," and agreed that he should begin using words such as "incompetent, dangerous, socialist" to describe the president.

"They are not just buzzwords, those are accurate descriptions of our commander in chief," Palin said during an appearance on "The O'Reilly Factor" Tuesday night (http://video.foxnews.com/v/1834858654001/). "He should be very aggressive, and he should be adamant in his attacks on Obama's record, which is so dismal, his plan or lack of a plan of Obama's to get us out of these woeful times. Yes, he needs to be severely aggressive in his articulation."


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/sarah-palin-urge-romney-call-obama-socialist-145058654.html

:chuckle:

Always a fan of Palin reminding the public that she is a complete moron.

Vaark
09-12-2012, 03:04 PM
As time and her actions keep reinforcing to most everyone who isn't drinking the Koolaid, that by putting up this this 1 term quitter who got less gubernatorial votes than did the comptroller of NYC in the last election to be a heartbeat away from the oldest potentially elected president in history, it becomes all the more insulting that the GOP really had little respect for the intelligence or well being of the American electorate.

CedarPhin
09-12-2012, 03:57 PM
Where would Republicans be without their cadre of buzzwords?

Locke
09-12-2012, 05:22 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/sarah-palin-urge-romney-call-obama-socialist-145058654.html

:chuckle:

Always a fan of Palin reminding the public that she is a complete moron.

Hey Mitt, here's a good idea. Take advice from a candidate who got crushed by the man you're currently running against. There's no way that could backfire on you...

Spesh
09-12-2012, 05:42 PM
Hey Mitt, here's a good idea. Take advice from a candidate who got crushed by the man you're currently running against. There's no way that could backfire on you...

Believe it or not Rush Limbaugh even was confused by this. Was forced to listen to a segment of his this afternoon and, despite the point of his argument being how awful Obama is and it should be pointed out everywhere, i was actually impressed that Limbaugh had a moment of self-reflection when he stated that the way Romney is running this campaign was similar to McCains and "howd that work out".

Admittedly Limbaugh then advised Romney to go personal, but that brief moment of valid point stunned me, probably would have crashed the car if i was the one driving.

nick1
09-12-2012, 06:08 PM
pray on fears of the people thats the republican way. hope Limbaugh was right when he said they will reinvent the republican platform when Romney loses

Tetragrammaton
09-12-2012, 08:03 PM
It is going to be weird when our grandkids ask us about Sarah Palin. How do you explain something like that?

Locke
09-12-2012, 08:54 PM
It is going to be weird when our grandkids ask us about Sarah Palin. How do you explain something like that?

I'll tell them that's what happens when the world hands everything to you because you're pretty and have no other redeeming qualities...

cdz12250
09-12-2012, 09:22 PM
It is going to be weird when our grandkids ask us about Sarah Palin. How do you explain something like that?

ROFLMFAO.

I would say that of all the Republican women who held public office in 2008, many of whom were incredibly qualified, this bimbo was the one they selected, and I still can't figure out why. She was devoid of any merit whatsoever. Then I'd tell them anout Tina Fey.

Spesh
09-13-2012, 03:47 AM
ROFLMFAO.

I would say that of all the Republican women who held public office in 2008, many of whom were incredibly qualified, this bimbo was the one they selected, and I still can't figure out why. She was devoid of any merit whatsoever. Then I'd tell them anout Tina Fey.

Going totally opposite direction. Off the top of my head i cant think of anything sufficiently weird enough but mind control, genetic mutation, cloning, and possibly a Russian invasion of Alaska will be involved in some way, shape, or form.

Figure the crazier something is, the more believable it is that Palin was connected to it.

Vaark
09-13-2012, 10:22 AM
heh, if McCain had been elected and Palin succeeded him, this bimbo likely would have named Glen Rice as the Secretary of her Interior :up:

Did Palin Cheat on Husband, **** Glen Rice (per Glen Rice) and Snort Coke? (http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-09-14/news/30177724_1_mcginniss-book-real-sarah-palin-palin-camp)

Filthy Fin
09-13-2012, 01:41 PM
I would like to use a few buzz words with Palin:

mouth, shaft, suck, lick, swallow!

Spesh
09-23-2012, 02:20 AM
As usual, Sarah Palin (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=ArNgMjBTwGs1S4B9ouw.0Vj9r.l_;_ylu=X3oDMTFqaTNjbzlmBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzMEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTJqcDlvMzl1BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDMjI1ODFiNDctYmMyNy0zMTNiLTkxYTktZmUzNTU2YjM1MzFjBHBzdGNhdAMEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=0/SIG=125puaeb3/EXP=1349590506/**http%3A//www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Sarah%2BPalin) is the most direct and colorful. In a statement to the Weekly Standard (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Ahf_kFiO5tSljYuRbx3EXTb9r.l_;_ylu=X3oDMTFqc2Fobm1zBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzQEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTJqcDlvMzl1BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDMjI1ODFiNDctYmMyNy0zMTNiLTkxYTktZmUzNTU2YjM1MzFjBHBzdGNhdAMEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=0/SIG=12q7npe46/EXP=1349590506/**http%3A//www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/The%2BWeekly%2BStandard%2BMagazine) on Saturday, she put it this way:

"With so much at stake in this election, both Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AvJpuC3L_i6fPbZFqgsQUbL9r.l_;_ylu=X3oDMTFqaGFmbHBnBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzUEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTJqcDlvMzl1BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDMjI1ODFiNDctYmMyNy0zMTNiLTkxYTktZmUzNTU2YjM1MzFjBHBzdGNhdAMEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=0/SIG=123e2ccp7/EXP=1349590506/**http%3A//www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Paul%2BRyan) should 'go rogue' and not hold back from telling the American people the true state of our economy and national security. They need to continue to find ways to break through the filter of the liberal media to communicate their message of reform."

"America (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AqNH2c1OzLzztp6jYwVDXED9r.l_;_ylu=X3oDMTFqY2dxYjVxBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzYEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTJqcDlvMzl1BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDMjI1ODFiNDctYmMyNy0zMTNiLTkxYTktZmUzNTU2YjM1MzFjBHBzdGNhdAMEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=0/SIG=1273ee9av/EXP=1349590506/**http%3A//www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/United%2BStates) desperately needs to have a 'come to Jesus' moment in discussing our big dysfunctional, disconnected, and debt-ridden federal government," the former Alaska (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Av3jPKDMgwl8PsdrcjZv7cL9r.l_;_ylu=X3oDMTFqZG1vZW1rBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzcEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTJqcDlvMzl1BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDMjI1ODFiNDctYmMyNy0zMTNiLTkxYTktZmUzNTU2YjM1MzFjBHBzdGNhdAMEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=0/SIG=11uj77gro/EXP=1349590506/**http%3A//www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Alaska) governor and 2008 vice presidential candidate told the conservative magazine.


http://news.yahoo.com/sarah-palin-advice-mitt-romney-rogue-210258156.html

TheWalrus
09-23-2012, 02:54 AM
Part of the problem with Sarah Palin is that she's not quite as dumb as she appears. Going negative would probably backfire but it's the only move left on the board at this point. 5-10% of the electorate isn't just going to wake up tomorrow and finally decide that unemployment is too high or the debt is too big. All of that **** is factored in already. What's left to talk about?

One thing that even as a liberal I have to admire about Romney, though, is that he's fairly well avoided the personal stuff despite the fact that it works. Now, he hasn't totally avoided it by any means, but I do think that in that musty dungeon full of old microchip parts that Romney calls a heart, he does want to run something close to a dignified campaign... or at least wants to rise above the lunatics (hence the choice of Paul Ryan, who's an egghead rather than a firebrand). The McCain campaign and especially Hillary Clinton's people played fast and loose with the innuendo, guilt-by-association game much more than Romney has, to the latter's credit. Hopefully when he's writing his memoirs he'll be able to look back with some pride about at least trying to take the high road more than he rues the fact that he lost convincingly to an unpopular president and was labeled a pariah in his own party for it.

I don't envy any Republican who tries to run for national office the way the rubes have taken control of the party these days. It's got to be like living in a political version of Children of the Corn. They let these people out of their cages so my pity goes only so far, but still. The Democrats by comparison do a much better job keeping the 9/11 Truth people and their ilk far away from the big boys table.

Spesh
09-24-2012, 02:45 AM
Part of the problem with Sarah Palin is that she's not quite as dumb as she appears. Going negative would probably backfire but it's the only move left on the board at this point. 5-10% of the electorate isn't just going to wake up tomorrow and finally decide that unemployment is too high or the debt is too big. All of that **** is factored in already. What's left to talk about?

One thing that even as a liberal I have to admire about Romney, though, is that he's fairly well avoided the personal stuff despite the fact that it works. Now, he hasn't totally avoided it by any means, but I do think that in that musty dungeon full of old microchip parts that Romney calls a heart, he does want to run something close to a dignified campaign... or at least wants to rise above the lunatics (hence the choice of Paul Ryan, who's an egghead rather than a firebrand). The McCain campaign and especially Hillary Clinton's people played fast and loose with the innuendo, guilt-by-association game much more than Romney has, to the latter's credit. Hopefully when he's writing his memoirs he'll be able to look back with some pride about at least trying to take the high road more than he rues the fact that he lost convincingly to an unpopular president and was labeled a pariah in his own party for it.

I don't envy any Republican who tries to run for national office the way the rubes have taken control of the party these days. It's got to be like living in a political version of Children of the Corn. They let these people out of their cages so my pity goes only so far, but still. The Democrats by comparison do a much better job keeping the 9/11 Truth people and their ilk far away from the big boys table.

Other then the obvious reasons as to why it would backfire, it would be a clear sign showing how desperate the campaign has gotten. That will only turn off more voters instead of bringing more into the fold.

Personally, i believe if Romney thought it would help him win his campaign he would start doing it. People that have professions like Romney dont have a small amount of competitiveness. In hindsight Romney might regret not going personal on Obama, but i believe his regret will be focused on the fact that he didnt go personal at the start of his campaign. I think part of the reason why Romney hasnt done so is it would only fire up Republicans and he figured he would have their support by now. Sadly(for him), its clear he didnt understand how hard he would have to sell himself on his base. Romney wanted this election to be focused on the economy and he couldnt even keep that focus in his own party.

I will give credit where its due though. Romney hasnt declared Obama a muslim or a foreigner. The fact that not doing those things is considered praise worthy speaks alot about our current political atmosphere.

overworkedirish
09-24-2012, 09:42 AM
Other then the obvious reasons as to why it would backfire, it would be a clear sign showing how desperate the campaign has gotten. That will only turn off more voters instead of bringing more into the fold.

Personally, i believe if Romney thought it would help him win his campaign he would start doing it. People that have professions like Romney dont have a small amount of competitiveness. In hindsight Romney might regret not going personal on Obama, but i believe his regret will be focused on the fact that he didnt go personal at the start of his campaign. I think part of the reason why Romney hasnt done so is it would only fire up Republicans and he figured he would have their support by now. Sadly(for him), its clear he didnt understand how hard he would have to sell himself on his base. Romney wanted this election to be focused on the economy and he couldnt even keep that focus in his own party.

I will give credit where its due though. Romney hasnt declared Obama a muslim or a foreigner. The fact that not doing those things is considered praise worthy speaks alot about our current political atmosphere.
There HAVE been some pretty ridiculous statements on the campaign trail though: "No one's asked for MY birth certificate. They know exactly where I'm from" - clear shot indirectly, letting others do the dirty talking while he can take the 'high road' and just graze the topic enough to remind the crazies "pssssst - I'm on your side". Also during the RNC - (paraphrased) "The President promises to prevent the rising of the oceans" - said with possibly the most incredulous tone I've ever heard, then PAUSE FOR EFFECT - the entire RNC burst out laughing, like global warming induced natural disasters were some big joke, then Romney closes the joke with "I promise to help you and your family." I swear, there was a part of me that was like, natural disaster, if you're gonna happen anyway, now would be an amazing time.

I don't believe for a second that Romney actually is an Obama-Birther crazy, or that he doesn't believe in global warming - he's a smart guy. My point is, he has completely sold his soul for this election.

trojanma
09-24-2012, 11:23 AM
I think you guys are missing the point on Palin.

Sarah Palin is no longer a person she is a brand.
Therefore everything she does is to promote the brand.

Notice how said for Romney should "go Rogue". Why because this term has been co opted by Palin(her book Going Rogue) as some pseudo underground pure Republicanism.
This has given her millions of hits on search engines. Rerouting back to her book which will get a bump in sales.
Going Rogue means whatever Palin needs it to mean in the in the moment to promote the interests of her brand.

I think many Republicans are starting to figure her out seeing as she had such a marginal role in the convention.

She probably wont run for office in the near future because it is against her interest. I could see her going back to Alaska and trying to run for Congress if she starts dipping out of relevance, thouguh

Spesh
09-24-2012, 03:23 PM
There HAVE been some pretty ridiculous statements on the campaign trail though: "No one's asked for MY birth certificate. They know exactly where I'm from" - clear shot indirectly, letting others do the dirty talking while he can take the 'high road' and just graze the topic enough to remind the crazies "pssssst - I'm on your side". Also during the RNC - (paraphrased) "The President promises to prevent the rising of the oceans" - said with possibly the most incredulous tone I've ever heard, then PAUSE FOR EFFECT - the entire RNC burst out laughing, like global warming induced natural disasters were some big joke, then Romney closes the joke with "I promise to help you and your family." I swear, there was a part of me that was like, natural disaster, if you're gonna happen anyway, now would be an amazing time.

I don't believe for a second that Romney actually is an Obama-Birther crazy, or that he doesn't believe in global warming - he's a smart guy. My point is, he has completely sold his soul for this election.

To be honest i had forgotten about that. I didnt include the "socialist" shots because Romney has taken indirect shots about that claim, so i shouldnt have mentioned the birther gaffee.

Without a doubt Romney has catered to his party. There isnt a stance out there that Romney hasnt shifted on(my personal favorite is stance on abortions, video below). Even his own campaign has expressed confusion over his refusal to distance himself from Donald Trump. He is letting others do the dirty work for him and he certainly isnt slapping them down. I also think(read: hope) that he doesnt believe the birther movement or even the socialist claims.

That said, i do believe TheWalrus is correct. This has been a relatively speaking "cleaner" race then weve seen in recent history. That hasnt stopped Romney from making bald face lies in his campaign commercials, but he hasnt been suggesting the President is a terrorist either(tell me that wouldnt have come up had Bachmann won the primary). He has been attacking Obama's policies and competency and has held back on the guilt-by-association. Granted, i believe he has not done so for fear it could backfire and not because he is incapable. If he knew he would be losing this badly before the first debate, im certain this campaign would have started alot uglier.

And for giggles:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNDsyKnQIes

TheWalrus
09-24-2012, 03:38 PM
To be honest i had forgotten about that. I didnt include the "socialist" shots because Romney has taken indirect shots about that claim, so i shouldnt have mentioned the birther gaffee.

Without a doubt Romney has catered to his party. There isnt a stance out there that Romney hasnt shifted on(my personal favorite is stance on abortions, video below). Even his own campaign has expressed confusion over his refusal to distance himself from Donald Trump. He is letting others do the dirty work for him and he certainly isnt slapping them down. I also think(read: hope) that he doesnt believe the birther movement or even the socialist claims.

That said, i do believe TheWalrus is correct. This has been a relatively speaking "cleaner" race then weve seen in recent history. That hasnt stopped Romney from making bald face lies in his campaign commercials, but he hasnt been suggesting the President is a terrorist either(tell me that wouldnt have come up had Bachmann won the primary). He has been attacking Obama's policies and competency and has held back on the guilt-by-association. Granted, i believe he has not done so for fear it could backfire and not because he is incapable. If he knew he would be losing this badly before the first debate, im certain this campaign would have started alot uglier.

And for giggles:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNDsyKnQIes

The fact that there are videos like that on many of Romney's "stances" says a lot.

"I would do more for gay rights than Ted Kennedy" is another classic.

I think the relatively "cleaned up" nature of Romney's campaign is due to him not hiring very many of the old Bush campaign veterans, especially Karl Rove, who's hasn't had much of a role. Alex Castellanos, the Cuban born politico who learned at the feet of Lee Atwater and created the infamous "white hands" ad for Jesse Helms, wasn't a part of Romney's team this time around.

Obama did the same thing four years ago, eschewing most of the old centrist Clinton battle axes. It worked for him. But it really hasn't worked for Romney, who's rejection of the old Bush/Atwater apparatus has led to an avoidance of many of the red meat themes that really work among the base but make the rest of the country queasy. Romney's tried to have it both ways but will end up having it neither.

The winner of the Republican nomination four years from now will really set the table for the next 20 years for that party, I think. I'm far more intrigued about that race than I am about this one or the Democratic nomination race four years from now. Should be one for the ages.

overworkedirish
09-26-2012, 12:35 AM
I truly believe that within the next three presidential elections the Republican party will split into two parties. Libertarians who are "real" Republicans (a la Newsroom - ya ya ya I know it's all lofty TV, I'm a media major, sue me) yet socially liberal (or at least, tolerant) and Fundamentalists (Tea Partiers) who are unwavering to a sinking ship of antiquated social stigmas held upright by the crutch of religious beliefs. Things can't go on like this.