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Dolphins9954
09-14-2012, 08:50 AM
A few days ago a federal judge ruled the provision in the National Defense Authorization Act that allows Americans to be indefinitely detained unconstitutional.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/12/federal-judge-blocks-indefinite-detention-law/

Obama has already appealed that decision.....



This sent a chill down my spine. In the midst of my interview with Tangerine Bolen, a plaintiff in the lawsuit against the NDAA's indefinite detention provisions & coordinator of StopNDAA.org (http://www.stopndaa.org/), she received an email (http://www.finheaven.com/forums/#) from her lawyer to inform her that the Obama administration has already appealed yesterday's historic court ruling. That court ruling found indefinite detention to be unconstitutional, and issued a permanent block of that provision. Listen to the full interview directly below.For a man who doesn't want the ability to order the military (http://www.finheaven.com/forums/#) to abduct and detain citizens - without charge or trial - it is quite odd that his administration is appealing yet again.
And, as stated in the interview, I would love to speak with someone from the administration on-record about this and hash it out. Why do you need this power?


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/unbelievable-obama-administration-has-already-appealed-ndaa-ruling-2012-9#ixzz26RpYV7Ek


But he loves Gays and Women. Rule of law not so much.

Valandui
09-14-2012, 04:44 PM
A few days ago a federal judge ruled the provision in the National Defense Authorization Act that allows Americans to be indefinitely detained unconstitutional.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/12/federal-judge-blocks-indefinite-detention-law/

Obama has already appealed that decision.....




Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/unbelievable-obama-administration-has-already-appealed-ndaa-ruling-2012-9#ixzz26RpYV7Ek


But he loves Gays and Women. Rule of law not so much.

Dude, stop being delusional. He's clearly a protector of freedom.

GoonBoss
09-14-2012, 05:04 PM
The suit was brought by activists, including former New York Times journalist Chris Hedges and outspoken academic Noam Chomsky,


Heh. Yeah.

Dolphins9954
09-18-2012, 08:41 AM
White House Says It's Unconstitutional To Strike Down The NDAA



The Obama administration had some harsh words Friday after a federal judge appointed by Obama said the government doesn't have a right to indefinitely detain anyone even remotely associated with terrorist groups.Judge Katherine B. Forrest permanently blocked (http://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa-permanently-blocked-2012-9) the government from enforcing the National Defense Authorization Act, claiming it was too vague and would have a "chilling effect" on free speech.

And now the Department of Justice is calling Forrest's ruling (http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2012/09/14/doj-says-ruling-on-indefinite-detention-law-is-unprecedented/) "unprecedented," arguing that the government has long had the authority to detain anyone it deems a threat to the county, The Wall Street Journal's Law Blog reported Friday.

And on Monday, the Justice Department asked the U.S. Second Circuit Court of Appeals to put the ruling on hold (http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2012/09/17/doj-to-appeal-ruling-on-indefinite-detention/), according to Law Blog.

Forrest's ruling oversteps the court's authority and infringes on Obama's power (http://www.scribd.com/doc/105938054/Stay#fullscreen) to act as Commander in Chief, according to the government's court filings.

The Justice Department requested a stay of the ruling pending appeal, which Forrest denied Friday.

Carl Mayer, an attorney for the plaintiffs in the case has hailed the decision as a "huge and historic victory (http://rt.com/usa/news/ndaa-appeal-mayer-forrest-161/) for democracy," saying he believes any challenges from the Obama administration will be shot down, RT reported over the weekend.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-administration-fights-for-the-ndaa-2012-9#ixzz26pAy2q8y

LOL!!!!

At least Romney provides us with a clear alternative right?????

D1yY3NCiMVQ

Valandui
09-18-2012, 03:50 PM
White House Says It's Unconstitutional To Strike Down The NDAA




Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-administration-fights-for-the-ndaa-2012-9#ixzz26pAy2q8y

LOL!!!!

At least Romney provides us with a clear alternative right?????

D1yY3NCiMVQ
So the court is perfectly able to take God out of schools and declare abortion legal, but they better not dare take away the President's ability to suspend someone's rights on his own whim.

Dolphins9954
09-18-2012, 06:13 PM
Romney's answer on NDAA is funny. He says that people who commit treason don't deserves any rights. Nevermind that NDAA is probably one of the most treasonous bills to come out of Washington in modern times. But don't you have to at least charge said americans with treason and present the evidence in court. You know that silly little thing called the rule of law!!!! We're so doomed.

Dolphins9954
09-18-2012, 06:57 PM
Appeals court unblocks indefinite detention law


A single federal appeals court judge put a temporary hold Monday night on a district court judge's ruling blocking enforcement of indefinite detention provisions in a defense bill passed by Congress and signed into law last year by President Barack Obama.

U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit Judge Raymond Lohier issued a one-page order staying the district court judge's injunction until a three-judge appeals court panel can take up the issue on September 28.

Lohier offered no explanation or rationale for the temporary stay. However, the Justice Department has asked the appeals court to block the injunction issued by U.S. District Court Judge Katherine Forrest last Wednesday (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81169.html).

U.S. government officials have argued that the provision in the National Defense Authorization Act simply restates existing law on so-called law-of-war detention, at least the law as interpreted by the D.C. Circuit regarding who can be held for providing "substantial support" to Al Qaeda or allied groups. Critics, including journalists and other activists who filed suit over the provision, say they are in fear of being detained for engaging in their regular work.

The legal dispute about whether the law can be blocked turns to a great extent on arcane legal points. The Justice Department claims that even though the provision didn't change existing law, blocking causes irreparable harm because blocking any Congressionally-passed statute does so. Forrest said the government's concession meant there was no urgency to keeping the law enforceable.


http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2012/09/appeals-court-unblocks-indefinite-detetnion-law-135815.html?hp=l6


Bad news. Obama gets to indefinitely detain you again. Good to be king. I say Obama and company need to be indefinitely detained for Libya and Syria. Only fair.

rob19
09-18-2012, 07:55 PM
For someone who supposedly "reluctantly" signed the NDAA bill, he sure was quick to appeal the decision.

Romney says the bill won't be abused, it already has been.


WASHINGTON, August 22, 2012 — Brandon J. Raub, a 26-year-old pro-liberty activist, former U.S. Marine, and Virginia resident, was arrested after authorities deemed his Facebook posts threatening. Citing an obscure statute (http://www.dbhds.virginia.gov/OMH-MHReform/080603Criteria.pdf) allowing the involuntary detainment of a citizen for psychiatric evaluation, the FBI, Secret Service, and local authorities swarmed Raub’s property to question and then seize him.Without a warrant or recitation of his Miranda rights, Raub was handcuffed and taken into custody. After a quick hearing, government officials confirmed that Raub’s Facebook posts necessitated his detention, refusing to acknowledge legal objections that the words were wrongly interpreted. The former Marine will undergo 30 days of evaluation at Salem VA Medical Center (http://www.salem.va.gov/contact/).
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/citizen-warrior/2012/aug/22/can-government-detain-you-over-facebook-posts/

Dolphins9954
09-18-2012, 08:02 PM
Obama and company sent 25 million dollars to the syrian rebels who have big time connections to al-Qaeda. Can I do a citizen's arrest NDAA style on Obama????