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MoFinz
10-07-2012, 11:44 AM
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/10/05/Breitbart-Debate-Teleprompter-Video-Featured-On-Greta



SERIOUSLY?!?!?!!?!?! WTF .....These imbeciles votes count as much as mine? No wonder this generations graduates are drowning in student loan debt. The dumb SOB's lack basic comprehension skills. We have this government fools like this vote the riff-raff into office.

phinfan3411
10-07-2012, 01:23 PM
I had to do a double take, Mo Finz, and Poor Nate in the same day?

I think the Po Fo should put on their retro jerseys today.

Who's next, Dolphin7? MD? Dark Knight?

Tetragrammaton
10-07-2012, 01:50 PM
Not really as dumb as voters who think you can increase tax revenue by decreasing taxes, or climate change isn't real, or evolution is incorrect.

poornate
10-07-2012, 04:45 PM
Citizenship gives you a voice... not intelligence, not education, not any personal trait of the individual... no American should be barred from participation... our role and goal is to ease the process to include in the least participatory, the least willing... all have a voice... you don't have to earn it... imagine the devastation to our national balance if we did institute a literacy test, or patriotism clause, or a basic knowledge of policy test?

Breitbart would have a website, but, if still with us, no right to vote...

Gonzo
10-07-2012, 04:54 PM
Good to see ya guys!

MoFinz
10-07-2012, 07:24 PM
[QUOTE=poornate;1064450181]Citizenship gives you a voice... not intelligence, not education, not any personal trait of the individual... no American should be barred from participation... our role and goal is to ease the process to include in the least participatory, the least willing... all have a voice... you don't have to earn it... imagine the devastation to our national balance if we did institute a literacy test, or patriotism clause, or a basic knowledge of policy test?
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You know i understand and agree with you. My frustration is that these are supposed to be the bright young minds engaging in political commerce, and the simple fact that a
debate is a live spontaneous event eludes them. Teleprompters at a debate? I bet these same people would vote for screen doors on submarines or seduced into buying a football bat.

BTW, good to chat with ya again, and thanks to everyone for the welcome back:thanks:

MoFinz
10-07-2012, 07:27 PM
I had to do a double take, Mo Finz, and Poor Nate in the same day?

I think the Po Fo should put on their retro jerseys today.

Who's next, Dolphin7? MD? Dark Knight?

Wheres Press Coverage? Who can i be snarky with now?

phinfan3411
10-07-2012, 07:30 PM
Wheres Press Coverage? Who can i be snarky with now?

He has been gone for a while, but I think you may find a few that almost measure up.

phins_4_ever
10-07-2012, 09:31 PM
I call BS on that. Breitbart is well known to fake issues to promote himself or his political agendas.

Dogbone34
10-07-2012, 10:13 PM
I call BS on that. Breitbart is well known to fake issues to promote himself or his political agendas.

a good trick for a dead guy

I hereby suppress my own vote in an effort for some know it all to feel better about their vote.

WVDolphan
10-07-2012, 10:48 PM
I could get real as **** here, but I wont. People cant handle that ****.

Tetragrammaton
10-07-2012, 11:55 PM
I went ahead and actually watched the video. It is leading the respondents to the answer. Breitbart continually scrapes the bottom of the barrel.

MoFinz
10-08-2012, 03:35 AM
I went ahead and actually watched the video. It is leading the respondents to the answer. Breitbart continually scrapes the bottom of the barrel.g a


Using a teleprompter during a debate? It's not exactly like asking who's buried in Grants tomb is it? All it did was expose some peoples ignorance to basic political reality. You know me Nate. If it had been GOP supporters saying Romney should have been able to debate surrounded by support staff to insure correct answers, I'd rail on that. My point is we have the government we have because we allow people like this to control the process.

I appreciate passion in politics as much as i do in sports. But i despise ignorance of the issue as much as i appreciate the passion. I'm not calling these people ignorant on the whole, what I'm calling them is ignorant on a process they profess to be passionate about.

phins_4_ever
10-08-2012, 09:35 AM
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Using a teleprompter during a debate? It's not exactly like asking who's buried in Grants tomb is it? All it did was expose some peoples ignorance to basic political reality. You know me Nate. If it had been GOP supporters saying Romney should have been able to debate surrounded by support staff to insure correct answers, I'd rail on that. My point is we have the government we have because we allow people like this to control the process.

I appreciate passion in politics as much as i do in sports. But i despise ignorance of the issue as much as i appreciate the passion. I'm not calling these people ignorant on the whole, what I'm calling them is ignorant on a process they profess to be passionate about.

Tetra is absolutely right.
He is using a leading question. His questions lead the respondent to believe that Romney did use a teleprompter and Obama somehow was disallowed.
Using a leading question is a very useful tactic to get a desired question. That';s why this tactic is disallowed in a court of law.

MoFinz
10-08-2012, 02:29 PM
Tetra is absolutely right.
He is using a leading question. His questions lead the respondent to believe that Romney did use a teleprompter and Obama somehow was disallowed.
Using a leading question is a very useful tactic to get a desired question. That';s why this tactic is disallowed in a court of law.

So, I'm the only one who understands that teleprompters at a debate are as useless as teats on a boar? Lemmings get lead. Are people too poor to pay attention anymore?

Vertical Limit
10-08-2012, 03:03 PM
Most of those people in that video don't even know what a teleprompter is. The reporter should have asked "do you even know what a teleprompter is", right after asking the first question.

Too many idiots in this country, the voting system needs to be revamped. I think there needs to be some tests, procedures you go through to be allowed to vote.

I'd say if you have went through military, or have a degree, or own a small business (some sort of corporate license), you're good to go to vote. But everyone else, should go through various tests, general education, to make sure these citizens actually understand even half of what they're listening when they're viewing these campaigns or debates.

Locke
10-08-2012, 03:17 PM
Most of those people in that video don't even know what a teleprompter is. The reporter should have asked "do you even know what a teleprompter is", right after asking the first question.

Too many idiots in this country, the voting system needs to be revamped. I think there needs to be some tests, procedures you go through to be allowed to vote.

I'd say if you have went through military, or have a degree, or own a small business (some sort of corporate license), you're good to go to vote. But everyone else, should go through various tests, general education, to make sure these citizens actually understand even half of what they're listening when they're viewing these campaigns or debates.

The founding fathers would be turning in their graves if we did this. Ignorant or not, they meant for every single U.S. citizen to have a voice in the selection of their representatives. Who gives a **** what they do or don't know. There are just as many fools voting blindly for Democrats as there are voting blindly for Republicans. And really, the people you outlined, who tend to be registered Independents, are the ones that decide most elections anyways. So really, I see no need to change anything. People just focus on the voting bases of each party because that's where you get the most one-liners, ridiculous quotes, and absurd situations. From both sides of the political spectrum...

phins_4_ever
10-08-2012, 04:37 PM
Most of those people in that video don't even know what a teleprompter is. The reporter should have asked "do you even know what a teleprompter is", right after asking the first question.

Too many idiots in this country, the voting system needs to be revamped. I think there needs to be some tests, procedures you go through to be allowed to vote.

I'd say if you have went through military, or have a degree, or own a small business (some sort of corporate license), you're good to go to vote. But everyone else, should go through various tests, general education, to make sure these citizens actually understand even half of what they're listening when they're viewing these campaigns or debates.

Wow, USA the country of the unfree.

I believe that this statement is a simple bait attempt. I can not believe that a person lives in this country and actually thinks this way.

Tetragrammaton
10-08-2012, 09:04 PM
The founding fathers would be turning in their graves if we did this. Ignorant or not, they meant for every single U.S. citizen to have a voice in the selection of their representatives.

Except for black people, Native Americans, women, and anyone who didn't own property. They would probably roll more knowing they can vote now.

WVDolphan
10-08-2012, 10:04 PM
Except for black people, Native Americans, women, and anyone who didn't own property. They would probably roll more knowing they can vote now.

I was going to say the same thing. Im shocked that Locke of all people was so lost when he made that post. The founding fathers made it to where only landowners were allowed to vote. I believe it was a 50 acre minimum of something like that. To run for office, you had to own a larger number. I just happened to study this Thursday night in class btw. The professor was speaking of this exact issue.

It was their way of ensuring people involved in the process actually had a steak in the outcome of these elections. They did not want people with nothing to lose being able to have a say.

Tetragrammaton
10-08-2012, 10:19 PM
It was their way of ensuring people involved in the process actually had a steak

Now that is funny.

Locke
10-08-2012, 10:37 PM
I was going to say the same thing. Im shocked that Locke of all people was so lost when he made that post. The founding fathers made it to where only landowners were allowed to vote. I believe it was a 50 acre minimum of something like that. To run for office, you had to own a larger number. I just happened to study this Thursday night in class btw. The professor was speaking of this exact issue.

It was their way of ensuring people involved in the process actually had a steak in the outcome of these elections. They did not want people with nothing to lose being able to have a say.

I stand corrected.

I still think the spirit of the law should be taken into account here. If we limit who can vote based on an arbitrary and subjective variable, such as intelligence level, it creates a slippery slope. Initially it's homeowners, business owners, people with degrees, etc. What happens in 20 years, when people get upset again, that they decide that no, the only people really smart enough to vote are CEOs and PhDs? I could see this route quickly turning our "democracy" into an oligarchy. And probably much faster than anyone expects. I mean, some would argue that's what we have already, but this would ensure it turns into a literal one...

Spesh
10-08-2012, 10:47 PM
Heres my question: who would be deciding the parameters on who gets to vote? According to Michele Bachmann, the majority of the people on this site would be considered to stupid to vote.

Lockes right, idiots largely cancel each other out.

Tetragrammaton
10-08-2012, 10:51 PM
Really smart people still vote for Democrats and Republicans. It isn't like intelligence makes people better voters.

WVDolphan
10-08-2012, 11:05 PM
I stand corrected.

I still think the spirit of the law should be taken into account here. If we limit who can vote based on an arbitrary and subjective variable, such as intelligence level, it creates a slippery slope. Initially it's homeowners, business owners, people with degrees, etc. What happens in 20 years, when people get upset again, that they decide that no, the only people really smart enough to vote are CEOs and PhDs? I could see this route quickly turning our "democracy" into an oligarchy. And probably much faster than anyone expects. I mean, some would argue that's what we have already, but this would ensure it turns into a literal one...

Im not taking a stance either way. Just stating what I learned about what the founding fathers were trying to do when they were negotiating the constitution.

rob19
10-09-2012, 12:19 AM
Now that is funny.

WV handed out T-Bones at the RNC.

WVDolphan
10-09-2012, 12:25 AM
Now that is funny.

You disagree with my history professor?

Now, the guy may be a socialist like some of you, but he does have a PhD in the field and his focus of study is the constitution. I yield to the man's expertise.

Edit: Oh. You could be simply making fun of my incorrect use of the word "steak" as opposed to "stake".

WVDolphan
10-09-2012, 12:28 AM
WV handed out T-Bones at the RNC.

:lol: Good line there Smoky.

Tetragrammaton
10-09-2012, 09:39 AM
Obama recently honored Cesar Chavez. People confused him with Hugo Chavez and complained on the Internet. This is why this story doesn't really matter.

Locke
10-09-2012, 01:06 PM
Obama recently honored Cesar Chavez. People confused him with Hugo Chavez and complained on the Internet. This is why this story doesn't really matter.

:lol:

Did they really? I guess I'm entertained more than others since Cesar Chavez is kind of a big deal here in Albuquerque. I find it odd that anyone could confuse the two, but I'm sure most outside of the Southwest wouldn't know who he is...

Tetragrammaton
10-09-2012, 03:15 PM
:lol:

Did they really? I guess I'm entertained more than others since Cesar Chavez is kind of a big deal here in Albuquerque. I find it odd that anyone could confuse the two, but I'm sure most outside of the Southwest wouldn't know who he is...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/08/hugo-chavez-cesar-chavez-_n_1949585.html

MoFinz
10-09-2012, 03:54 PM
Cesar Chavez? HELLUVA boxer:ko: