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Flip Tanneflop
10-08-2012, 11:35 AM
How bout Rex saying that he wants to keep Revis on the active roster in case he can make it back for the SUPER BOWL......... :sidelol:

Thats a good one Rex. So ridiculous on a couple of levels. First the idea of the Jests making it to the Super Bowl...... :lol:

Secondly, it takes up a roster spot they could use for some other terrible player.

Finally, what happens when they need that roster spot and they go ahead and place Revis on IR? Does that signal to the team that now even Rex dosent believe they are going to the Super Bowl? :ponder: Will that just give more reason to the players to cave?

How bout Cromartie proclaiming that now that Revis is out that he is the best corner in the league. :rotfl1:

First, Cromartie is no where close to this.

Second, he is suggesting that Revis is the best and he is the 2nd best. GET REAL.

First of all, they arent even the best tandem in the league. Denver has by far the best tandem in the NFL at CB. There are a couple of other teams who are up there as well.

Also, Revis is highly overrated. The idea that he is the best corner in the league is just thrown out there and everyone just goes along with it as if its some kind of lock. Ever since that one season they went 11-5, this guy has gotten a free ride. Fact is, his play has drastically declined.

If someone wanted to argue that Revis is a top 5 corner, I may buy that. He is right in that neighborhood. But, he clearly isnt the best. He had a dominant couple of seasons. But, is that supposed to mean he is just handed the title of best in the league for the rest of his career? I dont think so.

First of all, Champ Bailey is a lock hall of famer. Revis is not.

Cortland Finnegan is so underrated every year its crazy. He has been playing like the best corner in the league while Revis has been worried about contracts.

If that Talib kid ever decided to get his **** together, he has as much if not more talent than Revis and can actually make game changing plays with his INTs and return skills.

Charles Woodson is another HOF type guy with a SUPER BOWL ring to show. Revis dosent have any of that **** yet.

That Joseph dude goes under the radar a lot for some reason. I guess because he played for the Bungles and now the Texans. In the NY market, he would get a lot more credit.

Webb dosent get near enough credit for how well he plays in Baltimore.

That Grimes kid in Atlanta has come on the scene and turned into one of the leagues best. You just dont hear about him because its all about Revis.

Patrick Peterson is emerging as well and should develope into one of the leagues best. He also returns kicks and makes big plays.

I just get so sick of this passed along idea that Revis is so much the best corner in the league. It isnt true. He had one season where he probably was the best. As of the last couple of years, he simply isnt.

There are a couple of guys on that list like Champ and Woodson who have had much better careers and were never really behind Revis even when he had those couple of elite seasons. Lately, Im not even sure you classify Revis as elite in terms of CB. Cromartie is definately nowhere close. He isnt even as good as Sean Smith.

Then there are a few young or under the radar players on that list who have out performed Revis the last couple of seasons as well.

So you can run and tell THAT! Homeboy.

JCane
10-08-2012, 11:37 AM
"Give me a kiss, baby."

Tunaphish429
10-08-2012, 11:40 AM
Rex Ryan is a moron...But Revis is amazing..He is the best corner in the league... Cortland is a good corner but he is not on Revis' level

Revis has no weakness. The Rams and the Titans never demanded Cortland to be on an island by himself playing press man coverage...The Rams and Titans play alot of 3 and 4 deep zones.

Flip Tanneflop
10-08-2012, 11:44 AM
Rex Ryan is a moron...But Revis is amazing..He is the best corner in the league... Cortland is a good corner but he is not on Revis' level

Revis has no weakness. The Rams and the Titans never demanded Cortland to be on an island by himself playing press man coverage...The Rams and Titans play alot of 3 and 4 deep zones.

Maybe the Jests should have and perhaps Peyton Manning wouldnt have embarrased their secondary in the AFC title game.

tylerdolphin
10-08-2012, 11:48 AM
Revis is aight. I mean, Id take him on the Dolphins. But hes not THAT good. Cromartie makes Revis look better than he actually is because he sucks and teams naturally pick on the weak link. Also Rex Ryan and his schemes hide Revis' flaws well.

Vaark
10-08-2012, 11:51 AM
Revis is a great corner.. to say anything other than that does him a disservice....BUT if he didn't keep getting passes from the zebras for all his illegal holding and general PI because of his Brady-like rep, the jest may never have made it even to the post season the one year, 2010 they legitimately earned it. Let's judge him when he doesn't get preferential treatment...

JCane
10-08-2012, 12:00 PM
Revis is aight. I mean, Id take him on the Dolphins. But hes not THAT good. Cromartie makes Revis look better than he actually is because he sucks and teams naturally pick on the weak link. Also Rex Ryan and his schemes hide Revis' flaws well.

Yeap. If Rex Ryan weren't such a defensive mastermind Revis wouldn't even have a nifty nickname.

bucket656
10-08-2012, 12:03 PM
Revis is a great corner.. to say anything other than that does him a disservice....BUT if he didn't keep getting passes from the zebras for all his illegal holding and general PI because of his Brady-like rep, the jest may never have made it even to the post season the one year, 2010 they legitimately earned it. Let's judge him when he doesn't get preferential treatment...
That pick 6 he had when he literally throws Marshall out of the way and takes it to the house always comes to mind. I can't remember who it was but someone in New Yorks radio show had Revis on after it an the guy comes out an says you know you got away with one there an Revis gets pissed, Denys it and then hangs up saying this is why no one wants to do interviews with you

Flip Tanneflop
10-08-2012, 12:08 PM
That pick 6 he had when he literally throws Marshall out of the way and takes it to the house always comes to mind. I can't remember who it was but someone in New Yorks radio show had Revis on after it an the guy comes out an says you know you got away with one there an Revis gets pissed, Denys it and then hangs up saying this is why no one wants to do interviews with you

It was Mike Francesa. I was watching. I lost. :lol:

tylerdolphin
10-08-2012, 12:11 PM
So hes overrated AND a douche. On second thought I dont want him on the Dolphins at all. Let the jests keep their trash. Revis isnt even the best defensive player in NY. The Gians have like 3 guys better at least. Wheres junc?

Flip Tanneflop
10-08-2012, 12:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn9SwBCNIeI

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So hes overrated AND a douche. On second thought I dont want him on the Dolphins at all. Let the jests keep their trash. Revis isnt even the best defensive player in NY. The Gians have like 3 guys better at least. Wheres junc?

Thats a true story. JPP, Tuck, Osi.

nyjunc
10-08-2012, 12:16 PM
As usual you guys are getting ahead of yourselves especially since we have a bettre record at the moment and we beat you. Enjoy the moment, I guess I understand since you haven't had many in a long time.

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as far as Revis, he's not only the best defensive player in NY(not even debateable) he's the best defensive player in the league and no player at any position plays their position better than Revis.

bucket656
10-08-2012, 12:19 PM
Thanks I was Gunna search for it when I got to my computer but that interview always gets me... And junc how can you honestly sit there an say Revis is the best defensive player in the league? **** I know the weed up here in ny is strong but **** not that strong.

tylerdolphin
10-08-2012, 12:21 PM
as far as Revis, he's not only the best defensive player in NY(not even debateable) he's the best defensive player in the league and no player at any position plays their position better than Revis.

He got beat by Ted Ginn, and Ginn sucked at WR. Revis needs to get his speed up.

nyjunc
10-08-2012, 12:27 PM
He got beat by Ted Ginn, and Ginn sucked at WR. Revis needs to get his speed up.

That's like saying Tom Brady threw an Interception, he really needs to learn how to throw the ball better.

Flip Tanneflop
10-08-2012, 12:27 PM
He got beat by Ted Ginn, and Ginn sucked at WR. Revis needs to get his speed up.

Yep. Fact is when he goes against better QBs they arent afraid to pick on him. The lesser QBs will go after Cromartie because he is so bad, why wouldnt you? Wait till Revis comes back and has to deal with Brady and Tannemal in the same division tearing him a new ass. Im sure he will still get away with his share of PIs and holds, but overall he will get exposed.

nyjunc
10-08-2012, 12:29 PM
Yep. Fact is when he goes against better QBs they arent afraid to pick on him. The lesser QBs will go after Cromartie because he is so bad, why wouldnt you? Wait till Revis comes back and has to deal with Brady and Tannemal in the same division tearing him a new ass. Im sure he will still get away with his share of PIs and holds, but overall he will get exposed.

like when he faced reggie Wayne in the playoffs w/ peyton manning as his QB and held him to zero catches? he's not as good of a orner as Ryan tannhill as a QB but he's ok.

Flip Tanneflop
10-08-2012, 12:29 PM
That's like saying Tom Brady threw an Interception, he really needs to learn how to throw the ball better.

No. Its like saying Revis is overrated and pointing out specific evidence to the fact.

tylerdolphin
10-08-2012, 12:33 PM
he's not as good of a orner as Ryan tannhill as a QB but he's ok.

Cant believe youd admit that. Youre getting better.

Tunaphish429
10-08-2012, 12:37 PM
Revis is the best corner in the league...But def not the best defensive player in the league..

Revis is perfect for Rex and Rex calls plays that compliment Revis' skill set...


We will see what the Jets do without him tonight..The Texans are pretty damn good.

Vaark
10-08-2012, 12:43 PM
After SF doing to Buffalo more or less what they did to the jest (well almost as bad), it becomes pretty obvious that the only reason we don't have a winning record as of yet is that we haven't yet played the Bills.

Again, it would be interesting to see how good Revis is if all the deserved penalties were called against him. Either way, Revis and Cromartie in whatever era doesn't come close to Surtain and Madison, either collectively or individually!

Flip Tanneflop
10-08-2012, 12:47 PM
Eli is elite.

Champ Bailey is elite.

Charles Woodson is elite.

Revis...... meh. He's close.

MadDog 88
10-08-2012, 01:26 PM
Saying Revis is not the best CB is a bit of a stretch. Rex's defense relied on Revis' ability to shutting down half the field. You saw last week how his absence effected the run defense and its inability to stop SF. Watch and see how bad the Jets defense is the rest of the way out.

Vaark
10-08-2012, 01:36 PM
Saying Revis is not the best CB is a bit of a stretch. Rex's defense relied on Revis' ability to shutting down half the field. You saw last week how his absence effected the run defense and its ability to stop SF. Watch and see how bad the Jets defense is the rest of the way out.

You may be right Ted, except it's just a shame we'll likely never be able to make an objective judgment based on his abilities with no zebra assists. :idk: It's like he gets an *asterisk until then.

FinfanInBuffalo
10-08-2012, 04:08 PM
I would take Revis in a heartbeat. Best CB in football when healthy. On that play against Marshall, I can see his point. Marshall is off balance and initiates contact. I've seen worse pass interference infractions that were not called.

nyjunc
10-08-2012, 05:18 PM
best defensive player in football, one of the best corners of all time. I have never seen a better cover corner. You can make fun of the Jets for many things but to pretend like revis isn't great is just silly.

FinfanInBuffalo
10-08-2012, 08:02 PM
best defensive player in football, one of the best corners of all time. I have never seen a better cover corner. You can make fun of the Jets for many things but to pretend like revis isn't great is just silly.

For one season he was the best defensive player in football. Sadly he didn't get defensive MVP. Hasn't done it long enough yet to be an all time great. Having trouble staying healthy. I might take Deon over Revis. Deon wasn't as good an overall corner but he was a threat to take it to the house any time you threw in his direction.

nyjunc
10-09-2012, 08:20 AM
For one season he was the best defensive player in football. Sadly he didn't get defensive MVP. Hasn't done it long enough yet to be an all time great. Having trouble staying healthy. I might take Deon over Revis. Deon wasn't as good an overall corner but he was a threat to take it to the house any time you threw in his direction.

I agree w/ Deion, Deion was a better playmaker(obviously) but I think Revis is a better cover corner.

FinfanInBuffalo
10-09-2012, 11:30 AM
I agree w/ Deion, Deion was a better playmaker(obviously) but I think Revis is a better cover corner.

Image Deion and Revis on the same team.... where would teams throw....

Flip Tanneflop
10-09-2012, 11:32 AM
Image Deion and Revis on the same team.... where would teams throw....

At Revis. Or OVER Revis. He needs to get his speed up.

metlifedolphin
11-03-2012, 05:44 PM
Revis is done