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cuzinvinny
10-16-2012, 03:25 PM
Damn you can't even make this crap up....unbelievable

For what it's worth, and apologies to Obama supporters for its more bad news, but the New York times is reporting that the United States is giving arms to Al-Qaeda in Syria and the Obama administration knows this.

Contrary to the actual out right lie of Joe Biden in the debate were he says that we are doing whats necessary to decifer the enemy fighters from rebels friendly to the United States in order to help them with supplies (arms included ) in the effort to help end the reign of dictator Bashar al-Assad.
Arms are being ship and given to Saudi Arabia for distribution to Syria and the Saudi's are giving them to Al-Qaeda rebels which our riegning Administration is aware of. Gee the saudis helping al-qaeda now theres a surprise (not).

Don't shoot me Dems., it's coming from the New York Times, and not something being made up..and the NY Times is not exactly a supporter for anything Romney...

Seems like something important enough to know no matter what side your own....

But it's true the hits for Obama just keep rolling on....

Locke
10-16-2012, 03:39 PM
Is it too much to ask for a godamn link in just one of these bat**** crazy threads? Jesus Christ man. This is message board basics here...

Ilovemyfins4eva
10-16-2012, 03:41 PM
Damn you can't even make this crap up....unbelievable

For what it's worth, and apologies to Obama supporters for its more bad news, but the New York times is reporting that the United States is giving arms to Al-Qaeda in Syria and the Obama administration knows this.

Contrary to the actual out right lie of Joe Biden in the debate were he says that we are doing whats necessary to decifer the enemy fighters from rebels friendly to the United States in order to help them with supplies (arms included ) in the effort to help end the reign of dictator Bashar al-Assad.
Arms are being ship and given to Saudi Arabia for distribution to Syria and the Saudi's are giving them to Al-Qaeda rebels which our riegning Administration is aware of. Gee the saudis helping al-qaeda now theres a surprise (not).

Don't shoot me Dems., it's coming from the New York Times, and not something being made up..and the NY Times is not exactly a supporter for anything Romney...

Seems like something important enough to know no matter what side your own....

But it's true the hits for Obama just keep rolling on....not only is the new york times not a supporter of romney, they are about as liberal a paper as u can read.

COphinphan89
10-16-2012, 03:49 PM
This isn't news. We've been arming these kinds of people in multiple countries for decades and it is not at all isolated to a single party.

Ilovemyfins4eva
10-16-2012, 03:52 PM
is there a link?

cuzinvinny
10-16-2012, 06:37 PM
is there a link?

http://www.infowars.com/new-york-times-weapons-going-to-al-qaeda-in-syria/

Dolphins9954
10-16-2012, 07:35 PM
http://www.finheaven.com/forums/showthread.php?327019-Over-132-million-of-our-tax-dollars-have-gone-to-these-douchebags&highlight=

RockyMtnPhinfan
10-16-2012, 07:41 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/world/middleeast/jihadists-receiving-most-arms-sent-to-syrian-rebels.html?_r=0


Maybe a link to the actual article? This next couple of paragraphs is worth noting
In a speech at the Virginia Military Institute last Monday, Mr. Romney said he would ensure that rebel groups “who share our values” would “obtain the arms they need to defeat Assad’s tanks, helicopters and fighter jets.” That suggests he would approve the transfer of weapons like antiaircraft and antitank systems that are much more potent than any the United States has been willing to put into rebel hands so far, precisely because American officials cannot be certain who will ultimately be using them.
But Mr. Romney stopped short of saying that he would have the United States provide those arms directly, and his aides said he would instead rely on Arab allies to do it. That would leave him, like Mr. Obama, with little direct control over the distribution of the arms.

Dolphins9954
10-16-2012, 07:44 PM
How bout Obama and Romney mind their own business and don't get us involved in another clusterF.

cuzinvinny
10-18-2012, 11:42 AM
How bout Obama and Romney mind their own business and don't get us involved in another clusterF.



That would be a great idea if we had that force field the Enterprise had in star trek. Would be great to just stick our heads in the sand and ignore the restlessness of those FINATICAL religous barbarians that want nothing more than to Kill all Americans and destroy our western culture. Want a little proof, How about yesterdays attempt by a suicide bomber and his truck loaded with a 1000 lb. bomb parked in downtown manhattan......and were not talking about AckMed the suicide bomber....
Not saying we need to get in another war, but leading from behind is simply retarded... Only thing these Neanderthals listen to if anything is a big stick philosophy, and the "were sorry" approach has only made the world even more dangerous......I wish we could just ignore the threats too but that would just be insane and in the end we would have to deal with it except on a huge level, like countries (Egypt, Syria, Iran ) taken over by the Moslem finatics ( note: Finatical, not all moslems ) instead of the despersed groups were dealing with now......

This is serious stuff, possibly even more serious than the economical destruction going on now in our Country. So whether you like it or not we will have to have a strong hand in whats going on in those countries still stuck with an 18th century conciousness.

Another huge reason for us to become energy independent. Drill drill drill, responsibly,. For the alternative is the continuation of finacial support to the people that want to kill us by giving billions to the countries supporting terrorists...... and this would be alot more hazardous than the aspect of inviromental distruction. At least that can be regulated were a terrorist can't.......and thats not even thinking about cheaper gas being an added bonus...
Hopefully we stop giving weapons to our enemys NOW.... No matter who or what administration did it in the past (like that makes it acceptable)..............

Hopefully we will not need a few more 9/11's and thousands killed, to get....hopefully

Note: to staff that I Never said All Moslems to deserve a warning of infraction........

phins_4_ever
10-18-2012, 12:16 PM
Is it too much to ask for a godamn link in just one of these bat**** crazy threads? Jesus Christ man. This is message board basics here...

He/she can't submit the real links. If OP submits a link it is via Infowar, his/her only source of information. Alex Jones is a well known conservative and right wing conspiracy theorist so the information coming from Infowar is laced with opinion a la Fox News - not so true but fair balanced between right and extreme right. :lol:

It is ironic that his appearance comes at a time when we mourn the losses of our other favorite right targets. :lol:

Filthy Fin
10-18-2012, 01:24 PM
That would be a great idea if we had that force field the Enterprise had in star trek. Would be great to just stick our heads in the sand and ignore the restlessness of those FINATICAL religous barbarians that want nothing more than to Kill all Americans and destroy our western culture. Want a little proof, How about yesterdays attempt by a suicide bomber and his truck loaded with a 1000 lb. bomb parked in downtown manhattan......and were not talking about AckMed the suicide bomber....
Not saying we need to get in another war, but leading from behind is simply retarded... Only thing these Neanderthals listen to if anything is a big stick philosophy, and the "were sorry" approach has only made the world even more dangerous......I wish we could just ignore the threats too but that would just be insane and in the end we would have to deal with it except on a huge level, like countries (Egypt, Syria, Iran ) taken over by the Moslem finatics ( note: Finatical, not all moslems ) instead of the despersed groups were dealing with now......

This is serious stuff, possibly even more serious than the economical destruction going on now in our Country. So whether you like it or not we will have to have a strong hand in whats going on in those countries still stuck with an 18th century conciousness.

Another huge reason for us to become energy independent. Drill drill drill, responsibly,. For the alternative is the continuation of finacial support to the people that want to kill us by giving billions to the countries supporting terrorists...... and this would be alot more hazardous than the aspect of inviromental distruction. At least that can be regulated were a terrorist can't.......and thats not even thinking about cheaper gas being an added bonus...
Hopefully we stop giving weapons to our enemys NOW.... No matter who or what administration did it in the past (like that makes it acceptable)..............

Hopefully we will not need a few more 9/11's and thousands killed, to get....hopefully

Note: to staff that I Never said All Moslems to deserve a warning of infraction........

I like the undertones in this post!!! Yeah!!!

I like to stick my head places, usually the big stick follows!!! My huge reason likes to drill drill drill!!!!!! Yeah baby!!

cuzinvinny
10-18-2012, 03:34 PM
He/she can't submit the real links. If OP submits a link it is via Infowar, his/her only source of information. Alex Jones is a well known conservative and right wing conspiracy theorist so the information coming from Infowar is laced with opinion a la Fox News - not so true but fair balanced between right and extreme right. :lol:

It is ironic that his appearance comes at a time when we mourn the losses of our other favorite right targets. :lol:

What happened to all that aspects of discussion. What do you see thats not true about the OP and please show your link.
And please don't waste our time with trying to degrade the messenger it has gotten extremely old. So bring something significant as to the topic, you know,OBAMA ADMINISTRATION supplying Al-Qaeda with weapons...... or not....actually what I submitted was an actual link and there are more on this topic if you feel the urge to inform yourself just Google it....

phins4ever, its sad that we have to get all bent out of shape here and can't discuss much without getting personal. You have a completely different view point than I, which I can respect but obviously do not agree with. The right to different view points are benefitial and one of the great things that have made America great. But I have to admit for whatever reasons I have never see such destain and bitterness coming from both sides Dems and GOPs in any other Presidential elections in my life...Bottom line is we are all Americans and in the same boat and have the gift of freedom to express individual opinions and feel maybe the name calling should stop...but hell thats just me...have a good one

phins_4_ever
10-18-2012, 03:50 PM
What happened to all that aspects of discussion. What do you see thats not true about the OP and please show your link.
And please don't waste our time with trying to degrade the messenger it has gotten extremely old. So bring something significant as to the topic, you know,OBAMA ADMINISTRATION supplying Al-Qaeda with weapons...... or not....actually what I submitted was an actual link and there are more on this topic if you feel the urge to inform yourself just Google it....

phins4ever, its sad that we have to get all bent out of shape here and can't discuss much without getting personal. You have a completely different view point than I, which I can respect but obviously do not agree with. The right to different view points are benefitial and one of the great things that have made America great. But I have to admit for whatever reasons I have never see such destain and bitterness coming from both sides Dems and GOPs in any other Presidential elections in my life...Bottom line is we are all Americans and in the same boat and have the gift of freedom to express individual opinions and feel maybe the name calling should stop...but hell thats just me...have a good one

I am not getting bend out of shape. You are amusing.

I don't have to provide a link. There are two links provided: one by you via a right winger's website referring to the NY Times but mostly opinion and one by Rocky from the NY Times. If you read both side by side you will see significant differences. And if you don't.....well, I can't help you there.

I am quite informed about a lot of topics. But I usually don't take blogs or opinion pieces as reference point or as a fact unless supported with links to real facts.

And in regards to bitterness between both sides: you may want to look at your posts.

Dolphins9954
10-18-2012, 04:59 PM
That would be a great idea if we had that force field the Enterprise had in star trek. Would be great to just stick our heads in the sand and ignore the restlessness of those FINATICAL religous barbarians that want nothing more than to Kill all Americans and destroy our western culture. Want a little proof, How about yesterdays attempt by a suicide bomber and his truck loaded with a 1000 lb. bomb parked in downtown manhattan......and were not talking about AckMed the suicide bomber....
Not saying we need to get in another war, but leading from behind is simply retarded... Only thing these Neanderthals listen to if anything is a big stick philosophy, and the "were sorry" approach has only made the world even more dangerous......I wish we could just ignore the threats too but that would just be insane and in the end we would have to deal with it except on a huge level, like countries (Egypt, Syria, Iran ) taken over by the Moslem finatics ( note: Finatical, not all moslems ) instead of the despersed groups were dealing with now......

This is serious stuff, possibly even more serious than the economical destruction going on now in our Country. So whether you like it or not we will have to have a strong hand in whats going on in those countries still stuck with an 18th century conciousness.

Another huge reason for us to become energy independent. Drill drill drill, responsibly,. For the alternative is the continuation of finacial support to the people that want to kill us by giving billions to the countries supporting terrorists...... and this would be alot more hazardous than the aspect of inviromental distruction. At least that can be regulated were a terrorist can't.......and thats not even thinking about cheaper gas being an added bonus...
Hopefully we stop giving weapons to our enemys NOW.... No matter who or what administration did it in the past (like that makes it acceptable)..............

Hopefully we will not need a few more 9/11's and thousands killed, to get....hopefully

Note: to staff that I Never said All Moslems to deserve a warning of infraction........


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irish fin fan
10-18-2012, 09:31 PM
not only is the new york times not a supporter of romney, they are about as liberal a paper as u can read.

If you mean liberal newspaper as meaning a newspaper with facts then I suppose you right.

Ilovemyfins4eva
10-18-2012, 09:40 PM
If you mean liberal newspaper as meaning a newspaper with facts then I suppose you right.of course thats what i meant:lol: