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WVDolphan
10-23-2012, 08:27 PM
You want America to fail.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydPCAW3dXoI

If youre a socialist like Tetragramwhoever, then you want America to fail.

TheWalrus
10-23-2012, 08:34 PM
You want America to fail.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydPCAW3dXoI

If youre a socialist like Tetragramwhoever, then you want America to fail.

http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

tylerdolphin
10-23-2012, 08:41 PM
If this is the case, Im sure we know where that terrorist Cedar is voting.

Tetragrammaton
10-23-2012, 08:44 PM
Socialism is a left-wing ideology. I am a socialist because I want the country to prosper. I believe socialism is the best form of economics, but others like capitalism. It isn't a real debate, though; for every one of me there are a thousand capitalists in the country.

Obama is a far-right capitalist. He is the opposite of a socialist. So is Mitt Romney.

Spesh
10-23-2012, 08:46 PM
http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2012/10/obamamad3-1.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

Dolphins9954
10-23-2012, 08:50 PM
We fail either way. Pucker up the a-holes fellas. And hope you have lube.

Ilovemyfins4eva
10-23-2012, 08:58 PM
http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2012/10/obamamad3-1.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
lol coming to ur boy obamas defense as usual ( lol but who says im an obama supporter, lol ur a joke)

irish fin fan
10-23-2012, 09:08 PM
You want America to fail.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydPCAW3dXoI

If youre a socialist like Tetragramwhoever, then you want America to fail.

If you didn't want America to fail then you shouldn't have voted for Bush 12 years ago.

Spesh
10-23-2012, 09:10 PM
lol coming to ur boy obamas defense as usual ( lol but who says im an obama supporter, lol ur a joke)

:sidelol:

Man, i really seem to have touched your "internet stalking" interest button. Do you want to make out with me or something?

Ilovemyfins4eva
10-23-2012, 09:12 PM
:sidelol:

Man, i really seem to have touched your "internet stalking" interest button. Do you want to make out with me or something?
damn how did u know what i was thinking.

what internet stalking, i frequent all forums on finheaven, its not like i had to search all over the internet for your posts. lol stalking.

PhinsFreak
10-23-2012, 09:33 PM
I really hope Trump really has some information worth hearing tomorrow. He is supposed to have a huge announcement around noon, and since he isn't a fan of Obama's and was going to run against him, he probably spent a lot of money having his investigators digging up some dirt, and since Obama has so many secrets it could be anything. I just am hoping that it is indisputable evidence that costs Obama the election.

We need a president that actually cares about Israel and our other allies, and can actually keep some of his promises rather than break them all.

Tetragrammaton
10-23-2012, 09:39 PM
Who has bent over backwards for Israel more than Barack Obama?

PhinsFreak
10-23-2012, 10:03 PM
Who has bent over backwards for Israel more than Barack Obama?

Please make me a list of all the things Obama has done for Israel which would validate your comment about him "bending over backwards" for them. He refuses to even visit the country and speak to their president. I know he is busy visiting his Muslim brothers but he could at least pretend he cared about our greatest ally.

Dolphins9954
10-23-2012, 10:14 PM
Please make me a list of all the things Obama has done for Israel which would validate your comment about him "bending over backwards" for them. He refuses to even visit the country and speak to their president. I know he is busy visiting his Muslim brothers but he could at least pretend he cared about our greatest ally.

Muslim brothers really??? Let's not forget funding and weapons for Israel went up under Obama and he made a deal to help start a war with Iran until after the election. Of course he must have some priorities that supersede helping start WW3 for Israel. But yeah you're right he don't care about Israel at all.

PhinsFreak
10-23-2012, 10:25 PM
Muslim brothers really??? Let's not forget funding and weapons for Israel went up under Obama and he made a deal to help start a war with Iran until after the election. Of course he must have some priorities that supersede helping start WW3 for Israel. But yeah you're right he don't care about Israel at all.

He doesn't care about Israel, that is why he refuses to visit the country once he was elected.

Obama lifts freeze on $192 million aid package to Palestinian Authorityhttp://www.timesofisrael.com/obama-lifts-freeze-on-192-million-aid-package-to-palestinian-authority/
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/obama-chasing-rainbows-with-two-state-solution-1.265774

WVDolphan
10-23-2012, 10:36 PM
If you didn't want America to fail then you shouldn't have voted for Bush 12 years ago.

I didnt. So far in my lifetime I have voted for Clinton, Kerry, and unfortunately Obama. I will not be making that disasterous mistake again. I should have voted for McCain.

WVDolphan
10-23-2012, 10:40 PM
Socialism is a left-wing ideology. I am a socialist because I want the country to prosper. I believe socialism is the best form of economics, but others like capitalism. It isn't a real debate, though; for every one of me there are a thousand capitalists in the country.

Obama is a far-right capitalist. He is the opposite of a socialist. So is Mitt Romney.

Socialism has NEVER worked. Ever. Why would you support such an idea?

The capitalist form of government the United States put into place is the best system. Sure, it has flaws. Nothing is perfect and the system cant be completely fair. Such is life.

Why would you want to share ALL of your assets with everyone?

Mazinator1027
10-23-2012, 10:41 PM
He doesn't care about Israel, that is why he refuses to visit the country once he was elected.

Obama lifts freeze on $192 million aid package to Palestinian Authorityhttp://www.timesofisrael.com/obama-lifts-freeze-on-192-million-aid-package-to-palestinian-authority/
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/obama-chasing-rainbows-with-two-state-solution-1.265774

What a horrible president somewhat supporting an occupied and oppressed people...

Dolphins9954
10-23-2012, 10:44 PM
He doesn't care about Israel, that is why he refuses to visit the country once he was elected.

Obama lifts freeze on $192 million aid package to Palestinian Authorityhttp://www.timesofisrael.com/obama-lifts-freeze-on-192-million-aid-package-to-palestinian-authority/


http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/obama-chasing-rainbows-with-two-state-solution-1.265774


While increasing military aid to Israel and making backroom deals to help Israel attack Iran after the election.

Ilovemyfins4eva
10-23-2012, 10:50 PM
While increasing military aid to Israel and making backroom deals to help Israel attack Iran after the election.just curious, are you speculating on the last part, or do you have some facts to back that up?

TrojanFin
10-23-2012, 10:55 PM
Anyone who is in favor of socialism should just move to France. You can pay 70% in taxes every year, and enjoy trying to keep your EU members afloat.

Tetragrammaton
10-23-2012, 11:20 PM
Socialism has NEVER worked. Ever. Why would you support such an idea?

The capitalist form of government the United States put into place is the best system. Sure, it has flaws. Nothing is perfect and the system cant be completely fair. Such is life.

Why would you want to share ALL of your assets with everyone?

To date, libertarian socialism has never been attempted in any country. It can't receive a grade.

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Anyone who is in favor of socialism should just move to France. You can pay 70% in taxes every year, and enjoy trying to keep your EU members afloat.

I love France. I have been three times and I am going again in April. They are not socialist, though.

phins_4_ever
10-23-2012, 11:30 PM
To date, libertarian socialism has never been attempted in any country. It can't receive a grade.

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I love France. I have been three times and I am going again in April. They are not socialist, though.

It is hopeless though. They just don't know what socialism is.

TrojanFin
10-23-2012, 11:36 PM
It is hopeless though. They just don't know what socialism is.

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. ”― Margaret Thatcher (http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/198468.Margaret_Thatcher)

Go on and tell me that one of the most well respected and most renown PM's of the UK also didn't know what socialism is.

Tetragrammaton
10-23-2012, 11:45 PM
“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. ”

― Margaret Thatcher (http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/198468.Margaret_Thatcher)

Go on and tell me that one of the most well respected and most renown PM's of the UK also didn't know what socialism is.

One of the worst Prime Ministers in the history of the United Kingdom did not know a lot of things.

WVDolphan
10-23-2012, 11:49 PM
One of the worst Prime Ministers in the history of the United Kingdom did not know a lot of things.

She knew enough to know that socialism is a bad idea and would never work.

PATSSUCK
10-24-2012, 06:18 AM
I really hope Trump really has some information worth hearing tomorrow. He is supposed to have a huge announcement around noon, and since he isn't a fan of Obama's and was going to run against him, he probably spent a lot of money having his investigators digging up some dirt, and since Obama has so many secrets it could be anything. I just am hoping that it is indisputable evidence that costs Obama the election.

We need a president that actually cares about Israel and our other allies, and can actually keep some of his promises rather than break them all.


Want a president who cares about America ... **** Israel

PATSSUCK
10-24-2012, 06:20 AM
Love it when people who know jack**** about socialism, want to talk about it. I hate socialism, but then again Obama is NOT a socialist anymore than Bush was.

Dovahkiin
10-24-2012, 08:20 AM
Vote for Obama if you're on welfare and want to stay there.

-=DolfanDave=-
10-24-2012, 08:42 AM
lame thread is lame

RockyMtnPhinfan
10-24-2012, 09:12 AM
She knew enough to know that socialism is a bad idea and would never work.

And so how's capitalism treating us these days?

PhinsFreak
10-24-2012, 09:20 AM
just curious, are you speculating on the last part, or do you have some facts to back that up?

Liberals don't worry about facts. There is no link but that is the second time he has posted about some secret deal Obama has with Israel, as if he was in on this behind closed door meeting that nobody knows about.

jared81
10-24-2012, 09:20 AM
And so how's capitalism treating us these days?

capitalism is treating us great. If you are educated and live in a productive market. It's the debt via war and entitlements that both parties have accumulated over 30 years which is hurting us. How is socialism treating Greece?

WVDolphan
10-24-2012, 10:35 AM
And so how's capitalism treating us these days?

Treats me just fine. If youre a poor and have no skills, I could understand your complaint.

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One of the worst Prime Ministers in the history of the United Kingdom did not know a lot of things.

You still never answered my questions to you as to why you would support socialist society.

PATSSUCK
10-24-2012, 12:18 PM
Vote for Obama if you're on welfare and want to stay there.

Make a comment like this if you have nothing substantial to say and just want to attack people.

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Liberals don't worry about facts. There is no link but that is the second time he has posted about some secret deal Obama has with Israel, as if he was in on this behind closed door meeting that nobody knows about.

I love this comment. I forgot that one side has all the facts.

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capitalism is treating us great. If you are educated and live in a productive market. It's the debt via war and entitlements that both parties have accumulated over 30 years which is hurting us. How is socialism treating Greece?

America has a mixed economy. It is most capitalist but it does have socialist aspects to it as well.

Dovahkiin
10-24-2012, 12:27 PM
Make a comment like this if you have nothing substantial to say and just want to attack people.



Make a comment like this if you're butthurt about it. Who cares about people on welfare. They should be attacked. We've should place bear traps down the dark alleys that they sleep in.

phinfan3411
10-24-2012, 12:34 PM
Liberals don't worry about facts. There is no link but that is the second time he has posted about some secret deal Obama has with Israel, as if he was in on this behind closed door meeting that nobody knows about.

You have 40 posts and joined this month, and this is what you come up with?

You frigin partisans, to you everyone is a partisan, someone posts something you don't like or UNDERSTAND, watchout, here comes a partisan attack.

So refreshing...

Please crawl back into whatever hole you came out of, you bring nothing to the table here.

PATSSUCK
10-24-2012, 12:35 PM
Make a comment like this if you're butthurt about it. Who cares about people on welfare. They should be attacked. We've should place bear traps down the dark alleys that they sleep in.

Some people are on welfare due to disabilities or other things that they cant control. I agree there are people on welfare that are just lazy asses, but you making an generalization like you did shows an amout of contempt that I cant get behind.

phinfan3411
10-24-2012, 12:37 PM
To date, libertarian socialism has never been attempted in any country. It can't receive a grade.

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I love France. I have been three times and I am going again in April. They are not socialist, though.

Not picking on you Wayward, just curious. Might you give a quick synopsis on libertarian socialism?

WadeCounty1231
10-24-2012, 01:14 PM
I am voting for Obama because of the immigration and social policies of Republicans (I find them racist, discriminatory, and reprehensible). As simple as that.

PATSSUCK
10-24-2012, 01:38 PM
I am voting for Obama because of the immigration and social policies of Republicans (I find them racist, discriminatory, and reprehensible). As simple as that.

Voting Gary Johnson for this reason.

WadeCounty1231
10-24-2012, 01:45 PM
Voting Gary Johnson for this reason.

If I thought a third party had a chance of actually winning, I may consider voting for one. Sucks that the only way your vote matters is if you are in one of 10 states and vote for one of the two major parties. Everything else would be a major waste of time. Nothing against you doing of course, but for me if I am not going to vote for one of the two parties, I just wouldnt vote.

Tetragrammaton
10-24-2012, 08:03 PM
You still never answered my questions to you as to why you would support socialist society.

Because I think it is the most fair economic system.

Tetragrammaton
10-24-2012, 08:06 PM
Not picking on you Wayward, just curious. Might you give a quick synopsis on libertarian socialism?

Public ownership of the means of production while private property is maintained. Increased democratic processes (worker input in the running of a factory, more civic participation in city issues). It is basically socialism but the phrase had to be made because of the perversions of Lenin and the rest.

WVDolphan
10-24-2012, 08:47 PM
Because I think it is the most fair economic system.

How in the hell is it fair? The people with the most skills dont get what they deserve.

Explain how you think it is the most fair economic system. I mean, if you can.

Tetragrammaton
10-24-2012, 09:10 PM
How in the hell is it fair? The people with the most skills dont get what they deserve.

Explain how you think it is the most fair economic system. I mean, if you can.

What is it that they "deserve"?

MiZFiT
10-24-2012, 09:43 PM
Vote GARY JOHNSON...

Almost not worth writing because he gets no talk time. So disrespectful.

JamesBW43
10-24-2012, 10:35 PM
Oh yeah, well... vote for Romney if you want the universe to fail!