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WestSideFin
11-27-2012, 04:06 PM
Any interest from miami? Im sure alot of nfl teams are calling him right now

dolpns13
11-27-2012, 04:12 PM
Oh man this would be awesome. I cant believe they released him!

Actually I didnt know how old he was. I thought he was drafted 4 or maybe 5 years ago, not 2004. Regardless he is still a force and would definitely help our team.

mwt5584
11-27-2012, 04:14 PM
No. He needs the wide nine and good defensive back play to get to the quarterback. Maybe a team that plays that scheme will have interest. He isn't a fit for the Dolphins, IMO.

3rdandinches
11-27-2012, 04:14 PM
18 sacks one year ago, hmmmmmmmmmmm

Gordykr
11-27-2012, 04:15 PM
I'd take him .. instant upgrade to our pass rush and that helps our secondary .....

EvilDylan
11-27-2012, 04:15 PM
honestly, I'm kind of for it.

moley
11-27-2012, 04:15 PM
i would love him here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but He's still owed $16.2M combined over next 3 seasons if anyone claims him off waivers
and his 32 years old , is he worth it ??

think its nearly $2m to sign him for rest of season if claimed??

will ireland roll the dice??hmmmm

Spesh
11-27-2012, 04:17 PM
Avoid. He has only had success with a single defensive line coach. When the Eagles resigned him they also brought over Tennessee's former line coach.

mwt5584
11-27-2012, 04:19 PM
I live in Philly and watch many of the games. He is NOT good. He needs Jim Washburn (D-LINE coach) to scheme for him to get pressure on the QB. Check his stats when he played on teams without Coach Washburn. Not good.

datruth55
11-27-2012, 04:25 PM
Wow, someone already updated with Wiki page...really cruel, lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Babin

miamb113
11-27-2012, 04:29 PM
Sorry if this was posted already. Thoughts? You can never have enough pass rushers.

King Dingaling
11-27-2012, 04:32 PM
He would be great across from Wake. Sign him to a decent deal and see how he plays with our Dline

datruth55
11-27-2012, 04:32 PM
http://www.finheaven.com/forums/showthread.php?330305-Jason-Babin-released

dolpns13
11-27-2012, 04:33 PM
No. He needs the wide nine and good defensive back play to get to the quarterback. Maybe a team that plays that scheme will have interest. He isn't a fit for the Dolphins, IMO.

He only started the wide nine last year. The year before in a 4-3 he had 12.5 sacks - non wide nine. Also, the wide nine only proves the DE's need to have speed as they are further from the QB, so it proves he has that. It would definitely help the rotation

DolfanDuBbZ~
11-27-2012, 04:34 PM
Yea, as previously stated. He is a system player. All of his success has come in the WIDE 9 and with a single DLine coach. He has been released or not re signed at all his previous stops.

But it figures on FH, people love the name.

DolfanDuBbZ~
11-27-2012, 04:36 PM
He only started the wide nine last year. The year before in a 4-3 he had 12.5 sacks - non wide nine. Also, the wide nine only proves the DE's need to have speed as they are further from the QB, so it proves he has that. It would definitely help the rotation


The TITANS ran the wide nine.

MRPRESIDENT50
11-27-2012, 04:36 PM
Babin across from Wake would likely mean Jared Odrick moves back inside and Soliai or Starks is gone.. Interesting. I'm not sure Miami will bite

Vertical Limit
11-27-2012, 04:37 PM
No thanks, play Vernon more. Babin is done and old.

circumstances
11-27-2012, 04:39 PM
if he clears waivers and he agrees to come in for cheap with no up front money as a situational pass rusher, why not?

mwt5584
11-27-2012, 04:42 PM
He has 54 sacks over a 9 year career. 36 of those sacks came in the last 3 years while playing in the Wide 9. Also, when he can't get to the QB he is useless because he doesn't play well against the run.

SQuinn17
11-27-2012, 04:46 PM
No thanks...guy is a drama queen

King Dingaling
11-27-2012, 04:56 PM
Babin would be brought in to play 3rd downs. Wake could rush from the olb position with Vernon and Babin on the line. Odrick is good against the run but isn't scaring any QB in the league!!!

dolpns13
11-27-2012, 04:56 PM
The TITANS ran the wide nine.

They did? The first I heard of it was with Philly. Nevertheless it takes speed to rush from a wide nine. Speed we can use. To say he would not be of any help to our DL rotation is being a bit myopic in ones thinking, IMHO

mrhankey81701
11-27-2012, 04:57 PM
He only is good if he plays in the wide 9, we don't play the wide 9.

DolfanDuBbZ~
11-27-2012, 05:50 PM
They did? The first I heard of it was with Philly. Nevertheless it takes speed to rush from a wide nine. Speed we can use. To say he would not be of any help to our DL rotation is being a bit myopic in ones thinking, IMHO


Myopic? I guess one's history doesn't matter then?

Jason Babin has only found success in a certain system. That isn't being short sighted in my thinking, that is seeing the history of a player and believing he hasn't changed.

If the Philly Defensive line couldn't use this player in a system that he thrives in, how does he translate to a new system with tools that history says, shows him to be mediocre at best?

ChambersWI
11-27-2012, 08:45 PM
Babin was a great pass rusher in Philly year 1, but was exposed greatly this year for one huge reason; Philly DTs and LBs suck. I'm kind of going back and forth on this. Yeah his biggest success was in the Wide 9, but bringing him in for 3rd down reasons in tempting. At the same time, he's gonna let RBs run right by him so if it's a draw or a screen we're dead.

dolpns13
11-28-2012, 02:44 PM
He will be gone before he gets to us IMO.

Here is the top 12 waiver priority.

1. Chiefs; 2. Jaguars; 3. Eagles; 4. Raiders; 5. Browns; 6. Panthers, 7. Chargers; 8. Bills; 9. Titans; 10. Lions; 11. Cardinals; and 12. Jets.