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MadDog 88
12-26-2012, 12:33 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000117132/article/bill-parcells-suggested-as-new-york-jets-savior

:sidelol:

Vaark
12-26-2012, 01:23 PM
That would be a belated XMas present for Fins fans. Make it happen Woody. (if so, watch our "resident troll" who's been saying since '08 that The Rancid Tuna was a mediocre GM try to spin the hire Meatball-style.)

Mike13
12-26-2012, 07:40 PM
IRRC Parcells left the Jets because of Woody Johnson.

Locke
12-26-2012, 08:30 PM
That would be a belated XMas present for Fins fans. Make it happen Woody. (if so, watch our "resident troll" who's been saying since '08 that The Rancid Tuna was a mediocre GM try to spin the hire Meatball-style.)

What junc had meant, and if any of us knew how to read it would have been obvious, was that Parcells was the only reason Miami won the division in 2008 and he had to leave because Ireland dragged him down. Come on guys. Duh...

dlockz
12-27-2012, 06:57 AM
after trading for Tebow and leaving their roster suspect Tannebaum for all the previous good and bad he had done should go.
I think Rex deserves one more year , two championship games should buy him another season but they obviously need a personnel guy and if he keeps Sparano he is leaving a weight around his neck that will sink him.
The jets should hire Cam Cameron( I know laugh lol) he is a good solid OC that could probably get them back on track. He could also look at bringing Daboll back as a qb coach since he will probably be jobless when KC fires Crennel.

I suspect there will be a few head coach opening this year
I hear Cleveland is firing Shumar
Reid is probably out in Philly
Az will probably fire Whisenhunt
Gailey should be gone
Crennel should be gone.
Also if Dallas misses playoffs or exits early Jason garret will be gone
Oh forgot Norv Turner and maybe the raider's coach
Thank god for the Bills and their 8 straight losing seasons makes u feel better as a phin fan

nyjunc
12-27-2012, 09:37 AM
after trading for Tebow and leaving their roster suspect Tannebaum for all the previous good and bad he had done should go.
I think Rex deserves one more year , two championship games should buy him another season but they obviously need a personnel guy and if he keeps Sparano he is leaving a weight around his neck that will sink him.
The jets should hire Cam Cameron( I know laugh lol) he is a good solid OC that could probably get them back on track. He could also look at bringing Daboll back as a qb coach since he will probably be jobless when KC fires Crennel.

I suspect there will be a few head coach opening this year
I hear Cleveland is firing Shumar
Reid is probably out in Philly
Az will probably fire Whisenhunt
Gailey should be gone
Crennel should be gone.
Also if Dallas misses playoffs or exits early Jason garret will be gone
Oh forgot Norv Turner and maybe the raider's coach
Thank god for the Bills and their 8 straight losing seasons makes u feel better as a phin fan

Tannenbaum has done more than enough to keep his job, a bad year or 2 should not change that. Good organizations don't abandon ship at the first sign of trouble.

If we get BP to run this team I don't know what I will do. I appreciate everything he did for us as a coach, he's a top 10 coach in NFL history but he's nothing more than mediocre as a GM type. I know Woody loves Parcells but I hope he's not dumb enough to make a move like this, thankfully it is only media speculation at this point.

grogan12
12-27-2012, 11:13 AM
Tannenbaum has done more than enough to keep his job, a bad year or 2 should not change that. Good organizations don't abandon ship at the first sign of trouble.

If we get BP to run this team I don't know what I will do. I appreciate everything he did for us as a coach, he's a top 10 coach in NFL history but he's nothing more than mediocre as a GM type. I know Woody loves Parcells but I hope he's not dumb enough to make a move like this, thankfully it is only media speculation at this point.

God I hope youíre right, the pure comedy and joy that we Pats, Bills, & Fin Fans get from watching Jet fans talk shat like youíve done something in the last 43 years is just wonderful. Then to watch you all cry and make excuses, and start fighting with each other as your team collapses, fills my heart with joy each holiday season. As for the Tuna, on his worst day he couldnít screw up a draft board or cap situation the way the Taanunbum has for the Jets.

1972fins
12-27-2012, 11:42 AM
Tannenbaum has done more than enough to keep his job, a bad year or 2 should not change that. Good organizations don't abandon ship at the first sign of trouble.

If we get BP to run this team I don't know what I will do. I appreciate everything he did for us as a coach, he's a top 10 coach in NFL history but he's nothing more than mediocre as a GM type. I know Woody loves Parcells but I hope he's not dumb enough to make a move like this, thankfully it is only media speculation at this point.

Please explain what a good organization is, using the Jets as an example.

nyjunc
12-27-2012, 12:17 PM
God I hope youíre right, the pure comedy and joy that we Pats, Bills, & Fin Fans get from watching Jet fans talk shat like youíve done something in the last 43 years is just wonderful. Then to watch you all cry and make excuses, and start fighting with each other as your team collapses, fills my heart with joy each holiday season. As for the Tuna, on his worst day he couldnít screw up a draft board or cap situation the way the Taanunbum has for the Jets.

real pats fans can laugh somewhat, not bandwagon phonies like you.

what could bills and phins laugh about when their franchies have been a disgrace the last decade+? In one postseason under rex we have more playoff wins than Miami and Buf combined since 2000.

I would respond to the rest of your nonsense but it's clear you don't actual read my posts.


Please explain what a good organization is, using the Jets as an example.

I can't use the jets as an example, at times we do things the right way but we always move on too quickly. There's no reason to change the HC or GM.

The Giants easily could have fired Coughlin before '07 and '11
Pitt could have fired Cowher in the late 90s/early 00s

The successful franchises longterm do not start over every 3-4 years. we have had success despite some change in the last 15 years but not the ultimate success.

MadDog 88
12-27-2012, 12:39 PM
real pats fans can laugh somewhat, not bandwagon phonies like you.

what could bills and phins laugh about when their franchies have been a disgrace the last decade+? In one postseason under rex we have more playoff wins than Miami and Buf combined since 2000.

I would respond to the rest of your nonsense but it's clear you don't actual read my posts.



I can't use the jets as an example, at times we do things the right way but we always move on too quickly. There's no reason to change the HC or GM.

The Giants easily could have fired Coughlin before '07 and '11
Pitt could have fired Cowher in the late 90s/early 00s

The successful franchises longterm do not start over every 3-4 years. we have had success despite some change in the last 15 years but not the ultimate success.
Tannenbaum hasn't had a good draft since 2006 and he has emasculated the payroll by restructuring high salaries. The Jets are facing cap hell which is why Woody is looking to replace him.

grogan12
12-27-2012, 12:44 PM
real pats fans can laugh somewhat, not bandwagon phonies like you.

what could bills and phins laugh about when their franchies have been a disgrace the last decade+? In one postseason under rex we I

Iím sure you believe that all Pats fans that happen to think youíre a tool have to be band wagon fans. Oh, and believe me Fin and Bills fans may have had bad teams over the years but no team in the NFL has been nearly the A$$ clown show the Jets have for 43 years. The Jets are the biggest joke in the football world, heck Iíll bet there are football teams in Canada that are thanking god they arenít the Jets. A foolís team for the dumbest knuckle dragging fans in the football world.

tazthenomad
12-27-2012, 08:23 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000117132/article/bill-parcells-suggested-as-new-york-jets-savior

:sidelol:

Really??? The article says: "The same article somehow cites Parcells' work for the Miami Dolphins (http://www.nfl.com/teams/miamidolphins/profile?team=MIA) and appointment of GM Jeff Ireland as a positive."

I don't thank we Dolphins fans feel that way!

I "hate" the Jets from a rivalry point of view but I'm not sure that the the Geneva Convention would allow this to happen to the good people in NY/NJ. It would destroy what's left of their franchise for another 5 years, minimum.

ChambersWI
12-28-2012, 11:42 AM
after trading for Tebow and leaving their roster suspect Tannebaum for all the previous good and bad he had done should go.
I think Rex deserves one more year , two championship games should buy him another season but they obviously need a personnel guy and if he keeps Sparano he is leaving a weight around his neck that will sink him.
The jets should hire Cam Cameron( I know laugh lol) he is a good solid OC that could probably get them back on track. He could also look at bringing Daboll back as a qb coach since he will probably be jobless when KC fires Crennel.

I suspect there will be a few head coach opening this year
I hear Cleveland is firing Shumar
Reid is probably out in Philly
Az will probably fire Whisenhunt
Gailey should be gone
Crennel should be gone.
Also if Dallas misses playoffs or exits early Jason garret will be gone
Oh forgot Norv Turner and maybe the raider's coach
Thank god for the Bills and their 8 straight losing seasons makes u feel better as a phin fan

1.The organization has wanted Cam Cameron out of Baltimore for a few years. Cam has all the ability to be a very good OC, but he gets way too pass happy.
2.Pat Shumer is 50/50, The new owner has been impressed with how he's gotten the team to compete the last few weeks. Probably will be gone ( He was hired to be Holmgren's lap dog) but he's made the new owner take notice.
3.Philly is going to put the full court press on Chip Kelly.
4.Tough to say. The organization and fans like Wiz, but his handling of the QB situation since Warner retired has been awful. Though they have talked about just promoting Ray Horton to HC.
5.Tough to say, Buffalo is traditionally cheap in hiring a HC, and most hot candidates don't like Buffalo. Though with the extension to stay in Buffalo may help them out.
6.Crennel and Pioli have both reportedly been told they will be gone
7.Garrett will be kept. Jerry loves how he's handled the team
8.Norv is gone. They want Andy Reid
9.Only way Dennis Allen gets fired is if Jon Gruden wants the job.

Reportedly Ron Rivera is out in Carolina. Jerry RIchardson was never a huge fan of hiring him and he reportedly rubs a lot of people the wrong way

Nublar7
12-28-2012, 12:10 PM
5.Tough to say, Buffalo is traditionally cheap in hiring a HC, and most hot candidates don't like Buffalo. Though with the extension to stay in Buffalo may help them out.

Buffalo's situation scares me as a a Dolphins fan, because I think they could be the one team this offseason that could make a run at Mike Sherman. We need Sherman to stay for continuity and the continued growth of Ryan Tannehill.

The Bills are never going to get a Chip Kelly, Jon Gruden or Bill Cowher type. A Mike Sherman(who was a finalist in 2006 for the Bills job) could be in the mix again for them.

ChambersWI
12-29-2012, 04:10 PM
Buffalo's situation scares me as a a Dolphins fan, because I think they could be the one team this offseason that could make a run at Mike Sherman. We need Sherman to stay for continuity and the continued growth of Ryan Tannehill.

The Bills are never going to get a Chip Kelly, Jon Gruden or Bill Cowher type. A Mike Sherman(who was a finalist in 2006 for the Bills job) could be in the mix again for them.

well if Philbin follows the Green Bay model, he'll promote from within. So continuity won't be an issue, and even if we hire from outside, we are still running the WCO.

utahphinsfan
12-30-2012, 02:19 PM
...Reid is probably out in Philly ...Also if Dallas misses playoffs or exits early Jason garret will be gone
Oh forgot Norv Turner...

It won't surprise me if Reid stays.

Garrett IMO is safe. When Norv gets canned watch him become the old/new/refurbished OC in Dallas.

What Dallas needs is an actual, legitimate GM... Even Ireland would be an upgrade.

utahphinsfan
12-30-2012, 02:23 PM
Tannenbaum hasn't had a good draft since 2006 and he has emasculated the payroll by restructuring high salaries. The Jets are facing cap hell which is why Woody is looking to replace him.

I read somewhere that Woody's latest brainfart is make Tannenbaum the salary cap specialist and bring in a new GM.

Its not exactly bringing in Sparano & Saint Timothy but good for a few giggles.

nyjunc
01-02-2013, 09:54 AM
Tannenbaum hasn't had a good draft since 2006 and he has emasculated the payroll by restructuring high salaries. The Jets are facing cap hell which is why Woody is looking to replace him.

he also hasn't had a bad draft and the last 2 drafts we got bookend DEs that should be very good for us for a long time, in 2007 we got 2 all pro players. Where are all these bad drafts?


Buffalo's situation scares me as a a Dolphins fan, because I think they could be the one team this offseason that could make a run at Mike Sherman. We need Sherman to stay for continuity and the continued growth of Ryan Tannehill.

The Bills are never going to get a Chip Kelly, Jon Gruden or Bill Cowher type. A Mike Sherman(who was a finalist in 2006 for the Bills job) could be in the mix again for them.

Poor Bills, if they get Sherman I really feel bad for them. They have talent, w/ good coaching they should have been a playoff contender this year but Sherman would keep them in mediocrity for years.

MadDog 88
01-02-2013, 11:43 AM
he also hasn't had a bad draft and the last 2 drafts we got bookend DEs that should be very good for us for a long time, in 2007 we got 2 all pro players. Where are all these bad drafts
2008-12. Wilkerson will be a great player. The book is out on Coples. So one and maybe 2 players in 4 drafts. Awesome :rolleyes2:

Lets not forget Mikey T put the Jets 36 mil over the cap. Get used to the basement. :3w:

nyjunc
01-02-2013, 04:20 PM
2008-12. Wilkerson will be a great player. The book is out on Coples. So one and maybe 2 players in 4 drafts. Awesome :rolleyes2:

Lets not forget Mikey T put the Jets 36 mil over the cap. Get used to the basement. :3w:

how did we win so much if he had no good drafts post '06?

when did we become $36 mil over the cap?

MadDog 88
01-03-2013, 10:50 AM
how did we win so much if he had no good drafts post '06?

when did we become $36 mil over the cap?

Wow. You don't know the status of the cap on your team? They need to cut Scott, Pace, and Smith to get to the cap limit.

EDIT: My apologies. The Jets are 26 mil over.

nyjunc
01-03-2013, 10:54 AM
Wow. You don't know the status of the cap on your team? They need to cut Scott, Pace, Thomas and Smith to get to about 12 mil under.

That is all a given, those guys weren't coming back anyway in their current deals. I never worry about the cap b/c I never had to w/ Tannenbaum, he was always creative to get guys we needed under the cap.

MadDog 88
01-03-2013, 11:00 AM
That is all a given, those guys weren't coming back anyway in their current deals. I never worry about the cap b/c I never had to w/ Tannenbaum, he was always creative to get guys we needed under the cap.

It is not creativity. He simply pushed back guarantees and when you do that, it catches up in 1 year. That's what the Jets are facing.

nyjunc
01-03-2013, 02:30 PM
It is not creativity. He simply pushed back guarantees and when you do that, it catches up in 1 year. That's what the Jets are facing.

I've heard that for a deace and we've never had issues. Maybe we will now w/o our cap guru but it's something we never had to worry about.

MadDog 88
01-03-2013, 02:41 PM
I've heard that for a deace and we've never had issues. Maybe we will now w/o our cap guru but it's something we never had to worry about.
Mikey couldnt bail you out of this mess which is a large reason why he no longer works for the Jets. As for a decade, thats a stretch and you know it. He has only been the GM for 7 years and didn't go from building through the draft to win now until Rex came aboard. Over the last three years his restructuring Sanchez, Pace along with Holmes and Revis has created the mess.

The Jets will pay the Piper in 2013 then be able to restart in 2014.

nyjunc
01-04-2013, 12:46 PM
Mikey couldnt bail you out of this mess which is a large reason why he no longer works for the Jets. As for a decade, thats a stretch and you know it. He has only been the GM for 7 years and didn't go from building through the draft to win now until Rex came aboard. Over the last three years his restructuring Sanchez, Pace along with Holmes and Revis has created the mess.

The Jets will pay the Piper in 2013 then be able to restart in 2014.

he's been our cap guy since 1997

MadDog 88
01-06-2013, 02:30 AM
he's been our cap guy since 1997
Color me surprised you respond with this instead of addressing the cap issue.

nyjunc
01-07-2013, 09:51 AM
Color me surprised you respond with this instead of addressing the cap issue.

YOU were wrong, I point that out and now you are deflecting.

MadDog 88
01-07-2013, 10:38 AM
YOU were wrong, I point that out and now you are deflecting.

I was only touching on his being GM which was 7 years. I was wrong about his total time with the Jets.

Now, the issue at hand?

nyjunc
01-07-2013, 10:40 AM
I was only touching on his being GM which was 7 years. I was wrong about his total time with the Jets.

Now, the issue at hand?

he's been in charge of our cap since 1997, BP had final say and forced his hand but he was able to get out from under BPs bad moves to keep us out of cap hell. I never needed to worry about the cap, it will be a little more challenging this year w/ a new guy who may not be as good w/ the cap as Tannenbaum but I don't know all the info we need to know to provide an opinion whether we are screwed or not. I am more worried now w/o him though.