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Ben Had
01-10-2013, 07:07 AM
The Jets are around 19M over the cap...looks like they will have a fire sale:hclap:

Here are some of the ones they'll probably have to let go in order to field a team:chuckle:

Jason Smith
Bart Scott
Calvin Pace
Eric Smith
Brandon Moore
Landry
Tebow
Keller
either Revis or Cromartie

I'm sure there are more than I'm missing...I'm sure nyjunk can clear that up!

You think any worth looking at?

MarshallFin1
01-10-2013, 09:58 AM
first off, takes revis off that list, thats there franchise player and he will be there his hole career.

The only player worth taking a long at is dustin keller, solid tight end, good speed good hands, kick the tires.

DisturbedShifty
01-10-2013, 10:22 AM
first off, takes revis off that list, thats there franchise player and he will be there his hole career.

The only player worth taking a long at is dustin keller, solid tight end, good speed good hands, kick the tires.

I'm not so sure about Revis being there his while career. But he isn't going anywhere anytime soon that is for sure.

Forgive my spelling. This was sent from my phone.

Ben Had
01-10-2013, 12:04 PM
With their cap issues I dont think they will be able to keep both corners.

Yamilo
01-10-2013, 01:41 PM
The only one that interests me from that list is Tebow.















NOOOOOOOOOT

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MadDog 88
01-10-2013, 02:49 PM
The Jets are around 19M over the cap...looks like they will have a fire sale:hclap:

Here are some of the ones they'll probably have to let go in order to field a team:chuckle:

Jason Smith
Bart Scott
Calvin Pace
Eric Smith
Brandon Moore
Landry
Tebow
Keller
either Revis or Cromartie

I'm sure there are more than I'm missing...I'm sure nyjunk can clear that up!

You think any worth looking at?
Landry and Keller are free agents. Revis and Cromartie are going nowhere. The Jets will cut Smith, Scott, Pace and Tebow to get under. When its all said and done, the talent level will be less and depth will be minimal.

nyjunc
01-10-2013, 02:51 PM
Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN

Jets are $19.4M over 2013 salary cap, per ESPN. However, #NYJ will be ~ $8.3M under when they cut Jason Smith, Bart Scott & Calvin Pace

RevisChrist
01-10-2013, 07:59 PM
All those guys will be gone other then Revis and Cromartie. The only one I will miss is Landry but no way Jets can give him a big contract. The salary cap situation is bad but it isn't as bad as everyone makes it seem.

I'd like to see them trade one of Revis or Cro but with Rex running things that is unlikely at best. It makes sense to trade Cro coming off his best season and he would save a significant amount against cap if traded an resign Revis long term coming off his injury. Rex likes CBs too much to make that reality though.

DisturbedShifty
01-10-2013, 09:18 PM
All those guys will be gone other then Revis and Cromartie. The only one I will miss is Landry but no way Jets can give him a big contract. The salary cap situation is bad but it isn't as bad as everyone makes it seem.

I'd like to see them trade one of Revis or Cro but with Rex running things that is unlikely at best. It makes sense to trade Cro coming off his best season and he would save a significant amount against cap if traded an resign Revis long term coming off his injury. Rex likes CBs too much to make that reality though.

Whoa! Where did the rational, level headed Jets fan come from? Or is this just another uneducated, average fan?

Forgive my spelling. This was sent from my phone.

Ben Had
01-11-2013, 07:40 AM
All those guys will be gone other then Revis and Cromartie. The only one I will miss is Landry but no way Jets can give him a big contract. The salary cap situation is bad but it isn't as bad as everyone makes it seem.

I'd like to see them trade one of Revis or Cro but with Rex running things that is unlikely at best. It makes sense to trade Cro coming off his best season and he would save a significant amount against cap if traded an resign Revis long term coming off his injury. Rex likes CBs too much to make that reality though.

You know you have 70 mil tied up in just 7 players? Nacho ($13M), Harris ($13M), Tone ($12.5M), Cro ($10.75), Ferguson ($10.75M), Mangold ($9.1M), Revis ($9M)

Good luck...looks like you guys are going to need a bunch of CFL players fill out your roster.

nyjunc
01-11-2013, 09:41 AM
You know you have 70 mil tied up in just 7 players? Nacho ($13M), Harris ($13M), Tone ($12.5M), Cro ($10.75), Ferguson ($10.75M), Mangold ($9.1M), Revis ($9M)

Good luck...looks like you guys are going to need a bunch of CFL players fill out your roster.

a few moves and we are well under and we'll restructure other deals. We are far from cap hell.

WVDolphan
01-11-2013, 10:11 AM
Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN

Jets are $19.4M over 2013 salary cap, per ESPN. However, #NYJ will be ~ $8.3M under when they cut Jason Smith, Bart Scott & Calvin Pace

The Jests are a giant dumpster fire.

So basically youre telling us that the Jests must cut a few of the very few decent or better players they currently have in order to get under the cap, leaving them without enough money to resign their best FA's and only enough to sign their draftees and a few bottom tier bums to fill out their roster.

To put it plainly, their roster will be even less talented than it already is. :lol:

nyjunc
01-11-2013, 10:17 AM
The Jests are a giant dumpster fire.

So basically youre telling us that the Jests must cut a few of the very few decent or better players they currently have in order to get under the cap, leaving them without enough money to resign their best FA's and only enough to sign their draftees and a few bottom tier bums to fill out their roster.

To put it plainly, their roster will be even less talented than it already is. :lol:

players that were expected to posibly get cut last year, not players that are in our long term plans. There's nothing Earth shaterring about Calvin Pace, Bart Scott and Jason Smith. Calvin & bart can still play but their best days are behind them. Jason Smith was a backup OL.

Our roster has plenty of talent, unfortunately we had a ton of key injuries on O. If we lose Keller that will hurt, that's really the only potential loss that will hurt b/c we can't afford to lose O players. Assuming Keller and Edwards are back we'd have a decent group of weapons for the QB to throw to w/o even making a move int he draft or FA(which we will) and that was our biggest issue in 2012.

Ben Had
01-11-2013, 10:56 AM
players that were expected to posibly get cut last year, not players that are in our long term plans. There's nothing Earth shaterring about Calvin Pace, Bart Scott and Jason Smith. Calvin & bart can still play but their best days are behind them. Jason Smith was a backup OL.

Our roster has plenty of talent, unfortunately we had a ton of key injuries on O. If we lose Keller that will hurt, that's really the only potential loss that will hurt b/c we can't afford to lose O players. Assuming Keller and Edwards are back we'd have a decent group of weapons for the QB to throw to w/o even making a move int he draft or FA(which we will) and that was our biggest issue in 2012.

It's definatly a dumpster fire....You have to unload a ton of players and will only have 15 or so mil to fill out the roster, having 16 free agents and have to sign draft picks...You'll be down to only 10 starters... It's the worst cap situation in the NFL.

WVDolphan
01-11-2013, 11:28 AM
It's definatly a dumpster fire....You have to unload a ton of players and will only have 15 or so mil to fill out the roster, having 16 free agents and have to sign draft picks...You'll be down to only 10 starters... It's the worst cap situation in the NFL.

But, the bean counter was such a cap genius, mentored by Bill Parcells of course. :lol:

PhinzN703
01-11-2013, 11:30 AM
players that were expected to posibly get cut last year, not players that are in our long term plans. There's nothing Earth shaterring about Calvin Pace, Bart Scott and Jason Smith. Calvin & bart can still play but their best days are behind them. Jason Smith was a backup OL.

Our roster has plenty of talent, unfortunately we had a ton of key injuries on O. If we lose Keller that will hurt, that's really the only potential loss that will hurt b/c we can't afford to lose O players. Assuming Keller and Edwards are back we'd have a decent group of weapons for the QB to throw to w/o even making a move int he draft or FA(which we will) and that was our biggest issue in 2012.

If the roster has plenty of talent then the Jets would have overcome their injuries.

nyjunc
01-11-2013, 11:40 AM
If the roster has plenty of talent then the Jets would have overcome their injuries.

we did in '09 & '10, we couldn't this past year. We didn't have the depth on O to overcome losing our top 2 weapons in the pass game.


But, the bean counter was such a cap genius, mentored by Bill Parcells of course. :lol:

yeah, we've had so many cap issues through the years.:rolleyes2:

Ben Had
01-11-2013, 01:02 PM
a few moves and we are well under and we'll restructure other deals. We are far from cap hell.

Well your much smarter than us average fans so tell us the moves and restructures...lets see how much you really know:3w:

nyjunc
01-11-2013, 01:12 PM
Well your much smarter than us average fans so tell us the moves and restructures...lets see how much you really know:3w:

That's not my job. I do know cutting Pace, Scott & Smith gets us comfrotably under the cap. I would expect a restructuring of Sanchez, Harris, Brick, Mangold to help out as well as other cuts like a Brandon Moore. we'll have enough to field a competitive team.

Ben Had
01-11-2013, 01:20 PM
That's not my job. I do know cutting Pace, Scott & Smith gets us comfrotably under the cap. I would expect a restructuring of Sanchez, Harris, Brick, Mangold to help out as well as other cuts like a Brandon Moore. we'll have enough to field a competitive team.

NOT YOUR JOB:lol2:

nyjunc
01-11-2013, 01:23 PM
what is so funny? are you reading your posts where you are trying to talk football?

MadDog 88
01-11-2013, 01:36 PM
That's not my job. I do know cutting Pace, Scott & Smith gets us comfrotably under the cap. I would expect a restructuring of Sanchez, Harris, Brick, Mangold to help out as well as other cuts like a Brandon Moore. we'll have enough to field a competitive team.
This shows your ignorance on cap issues. It was restructuring deals that put you in this mess. Go ahead and restructure and extend the mess into 2014 and thats if anyone agrees to rexstructure.

The Jets have 17 roster spots to fill with approx 15 mil. Jets fans that are ignorant to the issue keep repeating "restructure" and "every year we are suppossed to be in cap hell." Wise Jet fans see the big picture which is again, 17 roster spots need to be filled.

nyjunc
01-11-2013, 02:00 PM
This shows your ignorance on cap issues. It was restructuring deals that put you in this mess. Go ahead and restructure and extend the mess into 2014 and thats if anyone agrees to rexstructure.

The Jets have 17 roster spots to fill with approx 15 mil. Jets fans that are ignorant to the issue keep repeating "restructure" and "every year we are suppossed to be in cap hell." Wise Jet fans see the big picture which is again, 17 roster spots need to be filled.

the Jets have been doing this for 15 years and have never been in "cap hell", every team restructures guys. The bottom line is w/ 3 simple moves they will be well under the cap and they will be able to field a competitive team in 2012.

Ben Had
01-11-2013, 02:07 PM
Your team is in serious cap trouble...this is why no one wants to be your GM!

nyjunc
01-11-2013, 02:23 PM
Your team is in serious cap trouble...this is why no one wants to be your GM!

who is no one? we missed on one guy so far and that had more to do w/ a GM wanted to select his own coach.

Ben Had
01-11-2013, 02:26 PM
the Jets have been doing this for 15 years and have never been in "cap hell", every team restructures guys. The bottom line is w/ 3 simple moves they will be well under the cap and they will be able to field a competitive team in 2012.

Who is the person that has been doing this for 15 years...your GM was fired. Is Rex going to fix this? The Jets will be lucky to win 2 games this year:lol:

nyjunc
01-11-2013, 02:33 PM
Who is the person that has been doing this for 15 years...your GM was fired. Is Rex going to fix this? The Jets will be lucky to win 2 games this year:lol:

I won't worry until I see reasons to worry. We've seen this for many years and yet we always manage to be ok.

Ben Had
01-11-2013, 02:44 PM
I won't worry until I see reasons to worry. We've seen this for many years and yet we always manage to be ok.

Seen this for many years? No OC, DC, ASST HC/LB coach, Special teams coach and GM!!! Dont worry Rex and Taco will be back:chuckle:

DisturbedShifty
01-11-2013, 03:10 PM
I love how he ignored the other Jets fan reply. Lol.

Forgive my spelling. This was sent from my phone.

nyjunc
01-11-2013, 03:25 PM
Seen this for many years? No OC, DC, ASST HC/LB coach, Special teams coach and GM!!! Dont worry Rex and Taco will be back:chuckle:

we have a DC, dennis Thurman. Just hasn't been officially announced yet and as long as we have Rex our D will be fine.

We just need a new GM and offensive staff


I love how he ignored the other Jets fan reply. Lol.

Forgive my spelling. This was sent from my phone.

what did I ignore?

MadDog 88
01-11-2013, 04:38 PM
the Jets have been doing this for 15 years and have never been in "cap hell", every team restructures guys. The bottom line is w/ 3 simple moves they will be well under the cap and they will be able to field a competitive team in 2012.

They'll field a team but they won't be competitive. Wishful thinking on your part.

WVDolphan
01-11-2013, 06:19 PM
what did I ignore?

Reality.

Vaark
01-11-2013, 06:30 PM
I won't worry until I see reasons to worry. We've seen this for many years and yet we always manage to be ok.

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2013/09/1z4lw5h-1.jpg

RevisChrist
01-11-2013, 06:32 PM
The cap situation will no doubt effect the Jets next year but it will only be one year barring anything unforeseen and incredibly stupid that hasn't happened yet.

Jets are going to have to draft incredibly well to be competitive next year. So much changes from year to year in the NFL though so who knows. Over the last 15 years Jets have usually followed up a stinker of a season with a decent one when least expected.

DisturbedShifty
01-12-2013, 02:13 AM
The cap situation will no doubt effect the Jets next year but it will only be one year barring anything unforeseen and incredibly stupid that hasn't happened yet.

Jets are going to have to draft incredibly well to be competitive next year. So much changes from year to year in the NFL though so who knows. Over the last 15 years Jets have usually followed up a stinker of a season with a decent one when least expected.

Hey look. He's back. I wonder if you will get a response from the self appointed "super fan" this time?

Forgive my spelling. This was sent from my phone.