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WesternNYDolfan
01-29-2013, 03:32 PM
If you remember, Philbin's prototypical WR is between 6ft, and 6'2", about 185-220 pounds; runs between 4.2- 4.7 40.

Our best bet this draft to get the kind of receiver we need will be in the third round and his name is Tavarres King out of Georgia.

If you watched the Senior Bowl practices, you'd notice this kids a stud who got consistent seperation with great routes, and caught everything thrown his way.

Here's his full profile: http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=83360&draftyear=2013&genpos=WR

The beauty of this pick is, we can use our top picks to sure up DB, and if we don't resign Jake, we can maybe take this kid out of Oklahoma: http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=109129&draftyear=2013&genpos=OT If he slides to the second....

freeing us up to take the biggest impact player in the first round possible, either pass rusher, or cover corner.

TrinidadDolfan
01-29-2013, 03:34 PM
gimme Bailey

MP-Omnis
01-29-2013, 03:39 PM
Lane Johnson is at least a Top 20 pick and will be the 2nd or third tackle off the board behind Joeckel and then Fisher. There is no way he slides to Round 2 unless he Kindles his way down a flight of stairs.

WesternNYDolfan
01-29-2013, 03:39 PM
Here's one of his highlight videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKN_-kD_Uuc

SF Dolphin Fan
01-29-2013, 03:40 PM
I'd take Patterson in R1 and then either Wheaton or Patton with our 2B or 3A pick. Also, I would not sign a wr in free agency instead using the money to keep our own guys and bring in a starting caliber DB.

Roman529
01-29-2013, 03:40 PM
So we should skip over Keenan Allen, C. Patterson, and Stedman Bailey and only focus on this one wide receiver out of Georgia?

Asicswrg85
01-29-2013, 03:41 PM
Lol there are alot of WR that fit your exact description so I am not sure why this guy is the ONLY ONE we should draft. Ill give you another example:

http://www.baylorbears.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/williams_terrance00.html

MP-Omnis
01-29-2013, 03:42 PM
Anyway, good eye on Tavarres King there. He looks like a solid pickup along with Wheaton. Sounds like a good kid that'll interview well too.

WesternNYDolfan
01-29-2013, 03:43 PM
Lol there are alot of WR that fit your exact description so I am not sure why this guy is the ONLY ONE we should draft. Ill give you another example:

http://www.baylorbears.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/williams_terrance00.html

Wasn't really impressed w/ Williams in the one on ones, lots of drops, and lazy routes....I think his numbers in college benefitted from the offense he was in

NavinJohnson
01-29-2013, 03:44 PM
If only one ...

Juan Huron.

The ONLY name you need to know.

WesternNYDolfan
01-29-2013, 03:46 PM
I think you can get Bailey along with King, but I think King will end up a better pro

dolfin530
01-29-2013, 03:55 PM
I really like Tavarres King, I have him going in the 3rd round.

quickfish83
01-29-2013, 04:00 PM
4.2-4.7 40 yd dash. Lol, thats every receiver in the league!

z926538
01-29-2013, 04:09 PM
If you remember, Philbin's prototypical WR is between 6ft, and 6'2", about 185-220 pounds; runs between 4.2- 4.7 40.

I was listening to the radio a few days ago and heard Channing Crowder in the context of teams passing on drafting Russell Wilson that the Dolphin's approach is to draft a "safe" good player instead of taking a risk on a player who is outside of the prototype but who has the potential to be great. He said that this draft philosophy is a contributing factor as to why the Dolphin remain mediocre. So, what's the benefit of restricting ourselves to "safe" draft picks that are only within the prototype? We need great wide receivers, not good ones.

WesternNYDolfan
01-29-2013, 08:51 PM
I was listening to the radio a few days ago and heard Channing Crowder in the context of teams passing on drafting Russell Wilson that the Dolphin's approach is to draft a "safe" good player instead of taking a risk on a player who is outside of the prototype but who has the potential to be great. He said that this draft philosophy is a contributing factor as to why the Dolphin remain mediocre. So, what's the benefit of restricting ourselves to "safe" draft picks that are only within the prototype? We need great wide receivers, not good ones.

Yea but I don't even think he's just a safe pick, I think he does have the opportunity to be great. He had a helluva career with Georgia, was highly touted out of high school as well. Only reason I brought up Philbin's prototypical reciever type is because it makes the pick make even more sense for us.

---------- Post added at 07:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:50 PM ----------

Not to mention Ryan Tannehill and Lamar Miller picks want to talk to you about "safe"

z926538
01-29-2013, 09:00 PM
Yea but I don't even think he's just a safe pick, I think he does have the opportunity to be great. He had a helluva career with Georgia, was highly touted out of high school as well. Only reason I brought up Philbin's prototypical reciever type is because it makes the pick make even more sense for us.

Not to mention Ryan Tannehill and Lamar Miller picks want to talk to you about "safe"

I'm not entirely familiar with the kid so I won't try to discuss whether he's good or great. I just want the Dolphins to stop settling for safe mediocrity and take a few chances to get better.

With regards to RT, I would venture to say that the Dolphins would not have drafted him if he had been the same size as Russel Wilson.

loed
01-29-2013, 09:05 PM
Living in Athens GA and meeting some of his family, I followed King closely up until this year when I moved away. Unless he really changed this year, I don't see him having the strength to be an NFL WR. He also does not go after the ball. I think he will get eaten alive by NFL DB's. He has some speed but that is about it. I would look elsewhere.

finfan54
01-29-2013, 10:37 PM
I got it.

oasis
01-30-2013, 01:06 AM
I was listening to the radio a few days ago and heard Channing Crowder in the context of teams passing on drafting Russell Wilson that the Dolphin's approach is to draft a "safe" good player instead of taking a risk on a player who is outside of the prototype but who has the potential to be great. He said that this draft philosophy is a contributing factor as to why the Dolphin remain mediocre. So, what's the benefit of restricting ourselves to "safe" draft picks that are only within the prototype? We need great wide receivers, not good ones.

Pat White was very outside the prototype. Just 'cause he didn't pan out doesn't mean the risk wasn't taken.

normaniii
02-03-2013, 06:57 AM
Is there a WR that runs outside of 4.2 - 4.7 40????

Birdmond
02-03-2013, 07:51 AM
Is there a WR that runs outside of 4.2 - 4.7 40????

That's what I was thinking. I'm pretty confident I could run a 4.7 also.

Tannchise
02-03-2013, 03:25 PM
we need to stockpile playmakers this offseason. relegating to one in the draft or one in FA is a waste. you have another decision to make- evaluation of Tannehill

j-off-her-doll
02-03-2013, 04:44 PM
Is there a WR that runs outside of 4.2 - 4.7 40????

Lulz. D. Bess.

FinaticalOne
02-03-2013, 09:23 PM
I do not agree with your strategy, especially when WR is one of our top two weaknesses. We only have Davone Bess, Armon Binns, Rishard Matthews, Brian Thymes Jeff Fuller, and Marlon Moore on our roster. Out of those names, only two (Bess & Matthews) made any real contribution in the passing game. And the only WR you want to add is Tavares King????

We need to add two quality WR this offseason, one through FA and one in the draft. We need to sign either Greg Jennings or Mike Wallace, and draft a impact WR with one of our first 5 picks (rounds 1-3).

If we sign Mike Wallace, than we should draft a WR in the second or third round. If we sign Greg Jennings, than we should draft a WR in the first or second round. This is based on their their age.

I have to give you credit, King was not on my radar until after looking at his highlights. But I'm still on the Cordarelle Patterson bandwagon. Patterson is a true offensive weapon, he can make any defender miss in open field (YAC Monster) and a sure fire threat to score from anywhere on the field. Pairing Patterson with Wallace or Jennings would be one of the scariest tandems in the NFL. These two would give Bess a lot of space to terrorize defenses too. You cant' cover all of them :)

finns13
02-08-2013, 10:44 PM
Nuk Hopkins is a baller. Money since his freshman year. Take him early 2nd pick. Wallace as a fa and resign Hartline.

DKphin
02-08-2013, 11:13 PM
Pat White was very outside the prototype. Just 'cause he didn't pan out doesn't mean the risk wasn't taken.Pat White was not taking a risk, it was just plain stupidity.

Digital
02-08-2013, 11:16 PM
The hopes of getting Johnson in round 2 have evaporated. Now he's actually a possibility to be gone by our round 1 pick. If we don't resign Jake Long ... most people on these boards are in for a rude awakening. We'll be almost forced to take whichever of Joeckel, Fisher or Johnson that is left at #12 and take the 4th or 5th choice WR with our 2a pick. That kinda eliminates the hopes of getting a starting TE and gives us a much lower choice of CB. There is also the realistic possibility that all 3 of those LT's are gone by #12, in which case Tannehill will be running for his life all season.

I'll be shocked if we don't draft 2 WR's, but which ones and what rounds is still a mystery. The WR's that make the most sense to me would be in various rounds, but are: Cordarrelle Patterson, Justin Hunter, Keenan Allen, Robert Woods, Cobi Hamilton, Ryan Swope and Markus Wheaton.

There are a lot of other talented WR's in this draft that will go ahead of most of those guys, but those are the ones I really like.

jlfin
02-09-2013, 08:14 PM
Pat White was not taking a risk, it was just plain stupidity.

Unless, of course, if he had panned out. Its a damned if you, damned if you don't world, isn't it?

finfan54
02-10-2013, 06:44 PM
I have been looking back for this thread and I tend to agree with the size/speed type Philbin likes. Which is why I think he likes guys who may slip into second round who origninally had first round grades.

That to me is Terrence Williams and Deandre Hopkins.

I ignored these two for whatever reason and now because of thinking about philbins type of guy and recent articles and senior bowl and the junior reference by Ireland I have put some thought into this.

One, Terrence Williams had an article on him about not forgetting him. I think beat reporters get wind of a name tossed out by Philbin/Ireland and they write an article. Williams is a typical sized guy who is very productive whether with RG3 or not. He is a high character guy I think. Christian type guy who comes from Baylor. hmmmmmmm, Baylor.

I am starting to come onto Hopkins as I see him as a guy who is pretty football fast and makes great downfield catches and can hit the home run. I like him. I understand he runs good routes and it certainly seems that way. He is a first round talent that could get pushed into the second round because WR is deep and not alot of teams will be looking WR in first round other than us and Minny. Thats why I think passing on a WR in first round could push these two down to us at 42.

ckparrothead
02-10-2013, 07:03 PM
Tavarres King did well for himself during Senior Bowl practices, for sure.

But I think the criticism that he disappears when things get a little more physical...rings true.