PDA

View Full Version : Fins need to get a clue



aquaattak
03-27-2004, 12:10 AM
WOW..i just fisnished watching the Heat play vs. the Mavs. WHAT A GAME...They play with intensity, no quit and passion. The marlins won it last year with hustle and heart...Cant help to think why My fins cant finish off great opponents or make a magical season come to fruition. Its alwasy something. They need to get The Marlins or the Heat to talk to Wanny and the players so they can get it together. The last 10 years have been frustrating and frankly im getting tired of waiting on this team.

Please Rick, Wanny, Wayne, the 54 man roster, make it happen !

WE ARE WAITING.:yell:

DallasDolfan
03-27-2004, 12:15 AM
The Heat got lucky. The foul that sent Nowitzki out of the game was a joke. The missed free throw from Odom was off a Heat player, and the 3 pointer at the end was pure luck.

NBA refs S-U-C-K

aquaattak
03-27-2004, 12:17 AM
ur just a bitter Mavs fan....Give credit where credit due...

Maybe Memories
03-27-2004, 12:21 AM
Ouch... Go KINGS!!!

DallasDolfan
03-27-2004, 12:25 AM
The Heat played well and I am glad to see them coming back. I root for the Heat, but not when they play the Mavs. I was an orginal Heat fan. I went to the first game at the "old" Miami Arena, and many more after that. Seikaly was my man. But the Refs screwed this game up bad, but they suck every game, so it is not a surprise. They miss the obvious, and make phantam calls for lack of anything else to do. They are pathetic, and clearly choked in this game. Disappointed, yes! Bitter, no! It's just a regular season game, and we played w/o one of the best in the league (Finley). Unfortunatley, much to my chagrin, the Mavs do not have the beef to do much in the Western Conference playoffs. Now if they were in the Eastern Conference, they'd make it to the Finals!!!!!

DallasDolfan
03-27-2004, 12:27 AM
The Kings blow....and I used to go to Arco to watch them I remeber one game I was in the owners box, before the Maloof brothers, with my Heat hat on, cheering as the Heat whooped the Kings. He was not very happy with me. Had to leave the box early for fear of being 'thrown out" by security.

LIQUID24
03-27-2004, 12:28 AM
what message board am I on?

aquaattak
03-27-2004, 12:28 AM
Dallas...Offense wins games...Defense wins championships (in any sport)..Dallas has no D..

Im sooo tired of waiting on the Phins, man.....

aquaattak
03-27-2004, 12:30 AM
Liquid y dont you chime in...instead of being sarcastic

Fresh
03-27-2004, 12:33 AM
The Fins don't need to get a clue, DallasDolfan needs to get a clue. The Heat got "lucky". Get outta here with that B.S.

If anybody got lucky, it's the MAVS. A 31-point night from Marquise Daniels? A guy whose career high before that, was 10-points? The Mavs got lucky to get a spark out of such an unknown.

Rafer Alston is the truth. The guy is an amazing PG. If he isn't re-signed after this season, I'd be pissed. We need to lock Skip up, play him at the 1, swift Wade to the 2, & find a way to make moves and keep Caron at the 3 & LO at the 4. We should try & dump EJ & our 1st rounder for a guy like Eric Dampier, Stromile Swift, or Eddy Curry(sign & trade, especially if Chicago is in position to draft Okafor or Howard--Howard would move Chandler to the 5). If you can't dump Grant's salary, you keep him on the bench. Another guy we need to re-up is Rasual Butler, although he was quiet tonight. He's developed into one of our better 3-point shooters. I think he's somewhere over 50% on the season.

DD, "luck" has grown to be one of the more bitter excuses in sports. See the Pats.

LIQUID24
03-27-2004, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by aquaattak
Liquid y dont you chime in...instead of being sarcastic Well.....maybe the D is tired of carrying the team all the time. I'll bet if the offense steps it up, the D will play alot better and more inspired.

Fresh
03-27-2004, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by DallasDolfan
The Heat got lucky. The foul that sent Nowitzki out of the game was a joke. The missed free throw from Odom was off a Heat player, and the 3 pointer at the end was pure luck.

NBA refs S-U-C-K

Now I honestly think you're blind. The missed free throw was off a Heat player? THE BALL HIT WALKER(I think) IN THE RIGHT SIDE OF HIS BACK. The Heat player who you're talking about(Caron) was on the LEFT. Funny you say that, when the reply was shown in slow motion on ESPN & it was also clear to the commentators & it was mentioned as one of tonight's better calls. Three pointer was pure luck? Anytime you have a guy like Alston, who has hit atleast 1 three pointer in 38-straight games, you have a consistent threat. Is it just me, or did Alston NOT hit 5 triples in the 4th quarter & overtime combined?

DD, I'll take all of this talk with a grain of salt. Go to nba.com & espn.com, look at the FINAL RESULT. Pure excuses of a pure loser. :tongue:

minus
03-27-2004, 12:41 AM
Too bad Miami never made that deal rumor to be on table that would have acquire Gasol for Eddie Jones.

DallasDolfan
03-27-2004, 12:41 AM
"Chambers".....DD has a clue, and if you were watching the game you would know it. Yes, Miami won the game, and it's extremely "weird" for me to root against ANY Miami team (see previous post). But again the refs cost the Mavs a game. This is a recurring theme, due mainly to the bad feelings between NBA refs and Mark Cuban. So before you go pronouncing someone "needs to get a clue", you need to watch and listen, then attempt to understand (if possible). And before you go announcing that anyone is the "truth", you need to look at your record. You would not even remotely approach the playoffs in our conference, so who needs to get a clue????

aquaattak
03-27-2004, 12:43 AM
CC..On point once again....

Liquid - the D has failed us in crucial moments in 2002 (last 3 games) and sometimes in 2003 (OT vs Pats, Philly game, Tennessee)....

Dude, were did that Sam Cassel Clone (Daniels) come from...???

He was the clean up man out there tonight

DallasDolfan
03-27-2004, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by ChambersOwnz84


Now I honestly think you're blind. The missed free throw was off a Heat player? THE BALL HIT WALKER(I think) IN THE RIGHT SIDE OF HIS BACK. The Heat player who you're talking about(Caron) was on the LEFT. Funny you say that, when the reply was shown in slow motion on ESPN & it was also clear to the commentators & it was mentioned as one of tonight's better calls. Three pointer was pure luck? Anytime you have a guy like Alston, who has hit atleast 1 three pointer in 38-straight games, you have a consistent threat. Is it just me, or did Alston NOT hit 5 triples in the 4th quarter & overtime combined?

DD, I'll take all of this talk with a grain of salt. Go to nba.com & espn.com, look at the FINAL RESULT. Pure excuses of a pure loser. :tongue:


"pure loser".......hmmmmm....what is your record?

Chamberz, I have read your posts for quite some time now, but these some more like JETS crap than anything else.

aquaattak
03-27-2004, 12:45 AM
Dallas, Look at the Heats record in the last 40 games my friend....We are the HOTTEST, i repeat, HOTTEST team in the NBA right now.....

aquaattak
03-27-2004, 12:47 AM
i dont think anyone wants to play us in the east...We beat Dallas the Kings, hung with the Lakers until the mid 4th quarter, New Orleans, Milwaukee....should i go on....

Fresh
03-27-2004, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by DallasDolfan
"Chambers".....DD has a clue, and if you were watching the game you would know it. Yes, Miami won the game, and it's extremely "weird" for me to root against ANY Miami team (see previous post). But again the refs cost the Mavs a game. This is a recurring theme, due mainly to the bad feelings between NBA refs and Mark Cuban. So before you go pronouncing someone "needs to get a clue", you need to watch and listen, then attempt to understand (if possible). And before you go announcing that anyone is the "truth", you need to look at your record. You would not even remotely approach the playoffs in our conference, so who needs to get a clue????

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Miami is the hottest team in the NBA, having won 7-straight. You want excuses? We started off 0-7 without Wade, without Caron, & without Odom(for a few games). Miami has been 35-30 ever since. You still haven't backed up the "ball hit the Heat player on the missed 3-pointer" remark. Did you watch the ENTIRE game? How many missed fouls were there ON Dirk with Odom driving? I counted 3-4.

I don't want to hear that crap about the Western Conference. Obviously the Mavs are nothing over there. I'd be willing to switch spots. Actually, I'd rather swap with Houston & have the chance to play Dallas 4 times a year. :lol:

"...Due to mainly bad feelings between NBA refs and Mark Cuban"
^You sound like one of the Bills lurkers on this board. :lol:

Someone needs to go over the www.realgm.com or www.basketballboards.net & post with the NBA fans. They'd laugh at some of your comments.

LIQUID24
03-27-2004, 12:49 AM
My Lakers are gonna win it. We're starting to come together....

Fresh
03-27-2004, 12:49 AM
Originally posted by DallasDolfan



"pure loser".......hmmmmm....what is your record?


It's funny...when two fans of other teams usually comment on one particular game, the fan of the losing team always comments on the entire season in general, rather than the game that his/her team just loss. :lol:

aquaattak
03-27-2004, 12:50 AM
Hey CC, dosent Dwayne look so smooth out there man, looks like he hasnt done anything and BAM hes got 24, 5 rees,and 6 dimes....wow

aquaattak
03-27-2004, 12:52 AM
guess he took off....

Anyhow, can anyone tell me what they think is needed to have our fins back up in the ELITE once again...

Fresh
03-27-2004, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by aquaattak
Hey CC, dosent Dwayne look so smooth out there man, looks like he hasnt done anything and BAM hes got 24, 5 rees,and 6 dimes....wow

I know man. At one point in the game, I believe it was when Dallas went up 4 in the 2nd, I was wondering wtf D-Wade was. Then bamn, 2-straight fast breaks, 2-straight dunks. There he is! :D

LIQUID24
03-27-2004, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by aquaattak
guess he took off....

Anyhow, can anyone tell me what they think is needed to have our fins back up in the ELITE once again... offense

aquaattak
03-27-2004, 12:55 AM
Nice to see Udonis give The WALKING STICK BUG some umph on that dunk!!!

aquaattak
03-27-2004, 12:57 AM
i think its more than O liquid...how bout hustle, pride, and just plain NASTINESS...

What player on D, if you were an opposing player on offense, would you be scared of???

NONE!!!!

LIQUID24
03-27-2004, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by aquaattak
i think its more than O liquid...how bout hustle, pride, and just plain NASTINESS...

What player on D, if you were an opposing player on offense, would you be scared of???

NONE!!!! I agree the D sometimes needs more pride & nastiness, but the O needs to be held accountable too.

Fresh
03-27-2004, 01:00 AM
Certain parts of this thread will probably be combined soon into a new thread in Other Sports...but anyways:

Aquaattak, Think Caron's back? He's been pretty good the last 5 games or so. If Caron gets back to 100% by the time the playoffs come, look out...this team is ALREADY making noise nationally. My only true fear in the East is Indiana, who I think could take us 4-1. Thankfully, we're not on the outside looking in, but rather looking at the 5th or even 4th seed. Can you imagine climbing from 0-7, hell 5-17, to having home court in round 1? Jeez. We're 1 game behind the Bucks, and 1.5 behind Nawlins. We could do it.

All streaks come to an end, but this one(7-straight) has been a great one. If it does happen to come to an end say Sunday(@ Indiana), I think it would be important that we quickly pickup & dust of Chicago like the nothing that they are...

DallasDolfan
03-27-2004, 01:01 AM
CO84,
Put the bottle down dude, you are losing touch with reality.

"I don't want to hear that crap about the Western Conference. Obviously the Mavs are nothing over there. I'd be willing to switch spots. Actually, I'd rather swap with Houston & have the chance to play Dallas 4 times a year."

Your record would be 10 games worse if you played in the Western Conference. And you really wouldn't want to play the Mavs 4 times a year....you got lucky tonight, but you can't admit it, that's ok, keep up the optimism.

Answer me this....Who was the last team from the Eastern Conference to win the NBA Chapionshio and when? Now really, talk about bitterness but "I don't want to hear that crap about the Western Conference" is absurd. And your "Obviously the Mavs are nothing over there" statement is a joke, they were in the Conference Finals last year. When was the last time the Heat can claim that.




"...Due to mainly bad feelings between NBA refs and Mark Cuban"
^You sound like one of the Bills lurkers on this board." Too funny...how many Mavs games have you watched. Tonight should be enough, or were your beer goggles on.

Now you can pick up you bottle again.

Amars
03-27-2004, 01:05 AM
LAKERS BABY. Enough said.

Fresh
03-27-2004, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by DallasDolfan
CO84,
Put the bottle down dude, you are losing touch with reality.

"I don't want to hear that crap about the Western Conference. Obviously the Mavs are nothing over there. I'd be willing to switch spots. Actually, I'd rather swap with Houston & have the chance to play Dallas 4 times a year."

Your record would be 10 games worse if you played in the Western Conference. And you really wouldn't want to play the Mavs 4 times a year....you got lucky tonight, but you can't admit it, that's ok, keep up the optimism.

Answer me this....Who was the last team from the Eastern Conference to win the NBA Chapionshio and when? Now really, talk about bitterness but "I don't want to hear that crap about the Western Conference" is absurd. And your "Obviously the Mavs are nothing over there" statement is a joke, they were in the Conference Finals last year. When was the last time the Heat can claim that.


Funny how this thread went from tonight's game, to the Western Conference's strength, to HISTORY itself. Miami is in a rebuilding mode. I don't give a damn about the last conference championship we been to. Didn't you watch NBA Fastbreak before the game? All three of the dudes were laughing at Dallas, saying how they are slipping. Who cares about last year. 2002 the Pats were 9-7 & out of the playoffs. You think they cared much about that in 2003? PLEASE!

And for your information, I've seen plenty of Mavs games on TNT, ESPN, & NBA TV. Like I said, join one of the top two NBA forums if you want more of a reality dose. Go over there and repeat all of these posts. You'll get laughed at BY Mav fans.

aquaattak
03-27-2004, 01:10 AM
look, all i know that props need to be given to Skip for having a heell of a game, no, year, and Yes the ball hit Walker on his A$$ and went out of bounds, DD, look at sportscenter, im sure theyll replay it.

CC, i really hope that Caron is finally back, and if he is, oh boy...thats all im gonna say...OH BOY!!

Heat Fans have suffered enuff the past couple years, its time to sulk this up...BTW tell Stevie that the rim is a little more to his right...LMAO!!!!

LIQUID24
03-27-2004, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by Amars
LAKERS BABY. Enough said. You got that right.....

aquaattak
03-27-2004, 01:12 AM
Yeah, the pacers look real and so does D town with 'sheed, and dont 4gert jersey, cant count them out..But i still like the Heat to at least make the 2nd round. That would be great for the franchise

Fresh
03-27-2004, 01:13 AM
It's easy to beat Miami down by talking up their past. But look who's the hottest team in the NBA. I repeat: 7-straight, 9 out of our last 10.

As for Dallas? 3-straight losses, 5 out of their last 10.

Isn't Nash a free agent next year? Ouch. Miami is a very young & talented team, while Dallas isn't getting much younger & may very well lose one of their best players next year. Certainly, time is running out. And certainly, Dallas isn't really considered as a contender in the West this year. Uh oh.....

aquaattak
03-27-2004, 01:13 AM
LaKERS???

OH yeah, if Kobe can stay outta jail..MAYBE, i still like SActown to come out of the west.

Fresh
03-27-2004, 01:15 AM
When it's all said & done, do I expect Miami to win it all this year? HELL NO. Do I expect to even get there? No. I actually think that after the finals, the two Laker fans in this thread will be very happy.

But face it...the future doesn't look too bright for Dallas right now, as Miami HASN'T EVEN reached their prime as an overall team.

I still like Sac & even Minny a bit. But I think that when it comes playoff time, the Lake Show will turn on blast mode.

Fresh
03-27-2004, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by aquaattak


Heat Fans have suffered enuff the past couple years, its time to sulk this up...BTW tell Stevie that the rim is a little more to his right...LMAO!!!!

I know most people suffered, but I always enjoy the rebuilding mode. I used to love the Clip-Show with Dre, Q, Odom, & D-Miles. Too bad that team still never reached it's potential, even after wheeling & dealing. I loved watching Caron & Rasual make noise last year, as well as Wade earlier in the year when we were down the 5-17 road.

Being our first national appearance in nearly 2 seasons, I was extremely happy to be a Heat fan tonight. :woot:

That had to be the game of the year.

LIQUID24
03-27-2004, 01:20 AM
Originally posted by aquaattak
LaKERS???

OH yeah, if Kobe can stay outta jail..MAYBE, i still like SActown to come out of the west. Trial ain't after the season.............and did you see the beatdown we put on the Kings?

aquaattak
03-27-2004, 01:21 AM
that was a sweet clipper team huh....CC, i dont know how you can say you enjoyed watching them lose 50, 60 games last two years. That was tuff to swallow. The future is now for the Heat, 1 decent bigs away from possibly taking the east...

aquaattak
03-27-2004, 01:23 AM
What about The MAIlman is he healthy yet, Has the glove shut his mouth recently? What about Shaqs mouth...After everything is sai and done itll be Sact or La in the West, Det or Ind in the east...IMO

Fresh
03-27-2004, 01:24 AM
Originally posted by aquaattak
CC, i dont know how you can say you enjoyed watching them lose 50, 60 games last two years.

:lol: Well, instead of being worried about the GAMES, I had a chance to be worried about how much points CB4 had. :D

Last year was just a fun year watching Caron vs. Amare vs. Yao.

What a difference this year's draft has been vs. last year's though. Last season, Caron led all rookies with 15.4ppg. This year, Wade, Bron, & Melo are all over 16ppg.

Fresh
03-27-2004, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by aquaattak
After everything is sai and done itll be Sact or La in the West, Det or Ind in the east...IMO

Every time someone talks about it, my feelings between Sac & LAL switch. I just have a gut feeling that the Lakers will really turn it up in the playoffs, as usual. But if I truly had to pick two teams right now, it would probably be the Queens(Shaq's words, not mine) & the Pacers.

I think that matchup would REALLY have the Pacers wishing that they paid up for Brad Miller in the offseason & kept him.

aquaattak
03-27-2004, 01:29 AM
Yep and now with CW back....Oh and i almost forgot, Da Kid and Spree in land o'lakes...cant sleep on them

XWAEVENTS
03-27-2004, 10:55 AM
The Heat are playing with heart..plain and simple!

Enough Said!

http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

Damn Dolphins! :fire:

Fresh
03-29-2004, 11:19 PM
Caron's Back!

30 points, 13 boards, 5 assists, 3 steals...WOW

That makes about 7-straight consistent good games from CB4

aquaattak
03-31-2004, 11:20 PM
hey co84, what happened tonite vs atl? i didnt c the game