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JAKE91
04-05-2004, 10:21 AM
:lol: THE PROPOSED STADIUM IN MANHATTAN IS GOING TO BE A TOTAL DISASTER FOR THE JERSEY JERK FANS.

22,000 CARS PARK AT THE MEADOWLANDS FOR A JERSEY JETS GAME. WHERE DO THEY PLAN ON PARKING ALL THOSE CARS IN THE CITY?

NO MORE TAILGATING FOR THOSE BUMS:lol:
ON GAME DAY, IT WILL BE TOTAL CHAOS IN NYC. GOOD. IT COULD NOT HAPPEN TO A BETTER BUNCH OF "FANS":lol:


:jetssuck: :jetssuck: :jetssuck: :jetssuck: :jetssuck:

nyjunc
04-05-2004, 12:42 PM
Our new Stadium is going to be the best in the league(until the next new Stadfium comes around and tops it:D ). I have been to every Jet home game since 1990 and I couldn't care less about tailgating, I do it b/c it passes the time until the game. Now w/ the new City Stadium I don't have to worry about parking, I can just take the train to the game. Let's see- Brand new state of the art Stadium that is our own and no traffic to worry about. Sounds like a great idea to me. I can't wait!


GOOD. IT COULD NOT HAPPEN TO A BETTER BUNCH OF "FANS"

Thank you. I take that as a compliment since most Jet fans want the new Stadium so we are getting what we want and I thank you for seeing that we deserve it.

iceblizzard69
04-05-2004, 04:08 PM
The new Jets stadium is going to be a mess. People drive to games, and people tailgate. This stadium will cause a lot of traffic and the fans won't be able to tailgate. I think this stadium is a terrible idea. Also, doesn't it have less seats than Giants Stadium?

nyjunc
04-05-2004, 04:22 PM
The Meadowlands holds close to 80,000 and the New Stadium is supposed to hold over 80,000. It won't be a mess, people either won't tailgate or if they do they'll tailgate in another location and take mass transit into the games. I went to the Jets-Saints game in New Orleans in '01 and they don't have tailgate room either, they have all sorts of activities and tents and bars and such all around and it was a great time and I didn't have to worry about driving home. I love the idea and can't wait. Tailgaiting is overrated, I go for the football not to eat and drink.

dolphan39
04-05-2004, 04:22 PM
People will be driving to games, but NOT driving into Manhattan. There will be no place to park in Manhattan, so you will have to taligate before you get on public transportation. I heard they are gonna try and offer a ferry from the Jersey side to the west side complex so that you can party there before getting on the ferry.

I love it since I will be 100x more likely to go to game since I can take the an hour train ride and not dea w/nitemare traffic

nyjunc
04-05-2004, 04:31 PM
It's still in the early stages but I have heard rumblings that there will be ferry's in NJ where people can tailgate in NJ then hop the ferry to the game.

nyjunc
04-05-2004, 04:32 PM
in case anyone is interested click the link for info on the Stadium:

http://www.newyorkjets.com/stadium/

iceblizzard69
04-05-2004, 10:35 PM
I still think the idea is stupid. Ferry rides from Jersey to the stadium? Come on. That's going to be a lot of ferries. I still think the idea of having a stadium with no parking is stupid. People drive to games now and I doubt most of those people would rather take public transportation. The Jets are just trying to build a stadium in Manhattan because they think that it will improve their reputation and give them more fans or something. The football fans in this area tend to be in New Jersey and Long Island, not Manhattan. I don't think that the Jets are going to get more fans by moving to Manhattan, instead I think it will just create an inconvenience for their current fans. Most Jets season ticket holders come from Long Island and New Jersey and I doubt that will change.

The link you gave says that 25% of Jets season ticket holders are from NYC. How many of those do you think are from Manhattan, I would guess that under 10% of season ticket holders are from there. I think this creates a convenience for them and an inconvenience for everyone else. Public transportation is not as convenient as driving your car and tailgating on the other side of the river is just dumb.

nyjunc
04-06-2004, 05:36 AM
If you think that most of the fans come from NJ & LI then Manhattan is the perfect place b/c it is centrally located. I don't live on LI but I know it is an absolute nightmare to gte to and from jet games in the Meadowlands and it would be almost as abd if we moved back to Queens for the NJ fans. We also have fans coming from north in Westchester, Rockland and CT and the Stadium would be centrally located for all. If people want to drive they can, there are a million parking garages in the City, they can use one on the other side of town and hop in a Subway and be at the Stadium.

JAKE91
04-06-2004, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by nyjunc
Our new Stadium is going to be the best in the league(until the next new Stadfium comes around and tops it:D ). I have been to every Jet home game since 1990 and I couldn't care less about tailgating, I do it b/c it passes the time until the game. Now w/ the new City Stadium I don't have to worry about parking, I can just take the train to the game. Let's see- Brand new state of the art Stadium that is our own and no traffic to worry about. Sounds like a great idea to me. I can't wait!



Thank you. I take that as a compliment since most Jet fans want the new Stadium so we are getting what we want and I thank you for seeing that we deserve it.

WHAT FOOTBALL FANS DON'T DRIVE TO A GAME?
FERRYS FROM JERSEY? WHAT? JETS FANS ARE GONNA GET SHEETFACED ACROSS THE RIVER AND THEN STAND IN LINE TO BOARD A RIVER FERRY? BOTH WAYS? YEAH, RIGHT!
90,000 FANS CONVERGING TO A CENTRAL NYC SITE AT ONCE, ON MASS TRANSIT? WITH MOST OF THEM ALREADY LOADED. GOOD LUCK, SPORT.

EVERYONE KNOWS THE ONLY REASON THE CITY AND STATE ARE BACKING THIS PROJECT IS TO EXPAND THE JAVITS CONVENTION CENTER AND HAVE A HUGE CONVENTION SITE FOR OTHER EVENTS.

DO YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THEY ARE DROPPING OVER $1.4 BILLION BEACAUSE THE JETS WANT A NEW STADIUM?

I CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR RATIONALIZING THOUGH, FOR THE BETTER, HAVING FOLLOWED SUCH A CHEAP,SECOND RATE FRANCHISE:rolleyes:


:jetssuck: :jetssuck: :jetssuck:

nyjunc
04-06-2004, 09:39 AM
Oh boy, one of you guys:o I don't know why I'll resond to you again but I will. There WILL be parking it will just be limited, people will take MASS TRANSIT which will be better for the fans. NO MORE DRUNK DRIVERS or traffic to deal w/ after games. Don't be jealous b/c we will have a barnd new state of the art Stadium in the Capital of the World, you guys have a beautiful Stadium as well so there's no need to be jealous.

Of course the City wouldn't have backed it if it didn't have an agenda. They are dropping the $ b/c it will make them more $, I don't see what the issue is there.

iceblizzard69
04-06-2004, 02:24 PM
No one takes mass transit to football games and I doubt that will change. You guys will find out soon enough. As I said before, building a stadium without parking is illogical.

Just because Manhattan is "centrally located" doesn't mean that its a good idea to have a football stadium there. You need a lot of space for a football stadium, and Manhattan just doesn't have that.

nyjunc
04-06-2004, 03:55 PM
No one takes mass transit NOW b/c most stadiums have alot of parking, how do you know people won't take the trains to the games? I know I will be and will be thrilled to do so. Again it's not like there will be no spots, there will be limited parking at the Stadium and their are a billion lots all over the City if people want to drive.

DolfanDaveInATX
04-14-2004, 06:36 PM
Am I correct in my understanding that they're going to build a 80,000 seat retractable roof stadium on a platform above a working railyard and transportation hub? Gee, that sounds REALLY safe to me.

:smackhead :smackhead :smackhead

upstart
04-18-2004, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by nyjunc
Our new Stadium is going to be the best in the league(until the next new Stadfium comes around and tops it:D ). I have been to every Jet home game since 1990 and I couldn't care less about tailgating, I do it b/c it passes the time until the game. Now w/ the new City Stadium I don't have to worry about parking, I can just take the train to the game. Let's see- Brand new state of the art Stadium that is our own and no traffic to worry about. Sounds like a great idea to me. I can't wait!



Thank you. I take that as a compliment since most Jet fans want the new Stadium so we are getting what we want and I thank you for seeing that we deserve it.


The jets will get a new stadium the year the Red Sox win a
Championship...:lol: :lol: :lol:

ZackDolphins
04-25-2004, 08:58 AM
The new Jets stadium is going to be a mess. People drive to games, and people tailgate. This stadium will cause a lot of traffic and the fans won't be able to tailgate. I think this stadium is a terrible idea. Also, doesn't it have less seats than Giants Stadium?


There is allready traffic!!!

nyrican
05-10-2004, 09:56 AM
looks like the Jets may build the stadium in Qeens instead of NYC... stay tuned no matter what it will be great to see the Jets get thier own home...

nyjunc
05-10-2004, 10:11 AM
looks like the Jets may build the stadium in Qeens instead of NYC... stay tuned no matter what it will be great to see the Jets get thier own home...

What makes it look like that? B/c some Queens politician is grandstanding? It will not be in Queens, it will be in Manhattan and if for some odd reason it doesn't go through in Manhattan I think they will stay in NJ and build a new Stadium w/ the Giants.

nyrican
05-10-2004, 10:21 AM
to me queens maks more sense the fans will be able to tailgate, the seven line is there already, and fans will be able to find parking as well.. and it won't cost as much this should ease the burden on the taxpayers in ny...

nyjunc
05-10-2004, 10:26 AM
to me queens maks more sense the fans will be able to tailgate, the seven line is there already, and fans will be able to find parking as well.. and it won't cost as much this should ease the burden on the taxpayers in ny...

Honestly I don't care as long as we get a new Stadium but I'd prefer the Manhattan Stadium so I can take the train to the game and never have to worry about sitting in traffic again. Tailgating is ok but all I care about is the game so if ther wasn't tailgating I wouldn't mind.

nyrican
05-10-2004, 10:47 AM
tailgating to me is the most important event before an y game in the nfl, i h ave met some nice people here in South Florida as well in NY when I go to see games there as well

Don't tell that the folks over at 16 H that... to me tailgating is very important.. Good Luck to our J-E-T-S this year..

NYFinFan27
05-20-2004, 07:10 PM
I live in New York and if you don't think that the stadium will create ta gigantic traffic mess than you are in denial. Basically all of my friends are Jet fans, and althought they want their own stadium, they realize that it will pose too many problems and would like to see the plan scrapped

nyjunc
05-21-2004, 06:30 AM
I live in New York and if you don't think that the stadium will create ta gigantic traffic mess than you are in denial. Basically all of my friends are Jet fans, and althought they want their own stadium, they realize that it will pose too many problems and would like to see the plan scrapped

There's always traffic, there's ridiculous traffic gettingout of the Meadowlands. There will be no traffic for myself b/c i will be taking the Subway and w/ no or limited tailgating most peopl should use mass transit even if they don't live in NYC. They can take Metro North to the City then take the Subway if they live in Westchester or CT, take the PATH to NYC if they live in NJ or LIRR from LI. If people do that traffic won't be much worse than usual.

normaldude
06-09-2004, 11:46 AM
NYC is constantly in & out of budget crisises. NYC schools and transportation infrastructure could use improvements. But spending $600 million in taxpayer dollars for a football stadium is just an inefficient use of funds. Public sector money should be focused on public sector projects.

Plus, a Manhattan football stadium is a traffic catastrophe on those 8 Sundays every year. The only way to drive in/out of Manhattan is through chokepoints.. bridges & tunnels. This is a permanent, long term disaster for Manhattan. Manhattan bridge & tunnel traffic is bad enough. A West Side football stadium will only make it worse.

Fact is, people drive en masse to all NFL games. This isn't like a Jacob Javits Center, where people fly in from out of town and stay at Manhattan hotels. For an NFL game at a West Side stadium, this mass car traffic is all jammed in the same 3 hour time window, forced through the busiest part of the region (Manhattan), and forced to go through chokepoints (bridges & tunnels).

The Meadowlands/Giants stadium rail link will be done by 2007. So if the Jets don't want a stadium in Queens, then the current NJ Meadowlands/Giants location will work just fine.. but without a traffic apocalypse in the middle of the city. Spending $600 million in taxpayer dollars on a Manhattan stadium is bad idea, and it's opposed by most NYC residents.



By a 60 percent to 33 percent margin, New York City voters oppose using their tax dollars to build a $1.4-billion stadium for the Jets and the 2012 Olympics.
http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/local/newyork/nyc-nystad023736182apr02,0,4917585.story?coll=nyc-nynews-print

New York City voters oppose 60 -- 33 percent using tax dollars to help build a new stadium for the Jets football team and for the 2012 Olympics on Manhattan's West Side.
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x10752.xml

The Quinnipiac University survey released yesterday shows 60% of New Yorkers oppose using public money on the Jets' West Side stadium project, with only 33% in favor.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/local/story/179790p-156277c.html