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FinFan57
05-28-2004, 02:05 PM
I don't know about you, but I'm sick of constantly hearing about how great the freakin' Patsies are. First off, in this age of free agency and salary cap, there are no dynasties and frankly, the Patsies couldn't hold the '72 Dolphins or the '78 Steelers jockstraps. In fact, I don't think they could beat very many previous Super Bowl teams.

What really hurts, and its why so many of us are negative and mad as all get out, is that the Dolphins are a better team; we just don't put it together.
Our receivers (Boston, Chambers, and McMichael) are better, our O-line sucked last year, but our line should be as good as theirs this year. Certainly, our defense is as good, if not better, than the Patsies. Our ST's suffered last year, but again, this year, we are as good, if not better. I'll take Ricky, Rob, Minor, etc. over even Dillion - so we win the RB battle. It will come down to them having a better QB and a better Head Coach. I'm not that impressed with Brady. I think with a different Coach and team, Brady would be mediocre - Weiss and Bellichick are the best in the league right now.

It comes down to our QB gents. If we are effective with that position and don't shoot ourselves in the foot...we'll be fine. I hope so, because I am tired of hearing how great the mediocre Patsies are.

Agua
05-28-2004, 02:17 PM
Pats were "good enough" last year and also rather lucky. Not taking anything away from them because it takes luck along the road for any team to win it all. Their season was charmed and congrats to 'em. They can go to hell now.

ltfinfan
05-28-2004, 02:18 PM
it doesn't matter if they can beat a past team or not they have won the last two out of three super bowls and they beat us last year so give them there due and just hope we can get it together this year.

DolFinatic718
05-28-2004, 02:19 PM
It comes down to our QB gents. If we are effective with that position and don't shoot ourselves in the foot...we'll be fine. I hope so, because I am tired of hearing how great the mediocre Patsies are.


I'm sorry but I think it comes down to coaching

BLITZKRIEG
05-28-2004, 02:23 PM
I hate the Pats too, but they're a very solid team....

I can't blame them for being cocky or arrogant. Give me two SB's in a three year span, and I'll be doing the same....

PHINZ RULE!!! :fire:

FinFan57
05-28-2004, 02:25 PM
I agree 718 that coaching is important. I was more or less conceding that point. Bellichick is so much better than Dave that I believe it is a given to assume we will be outcoached. The question is can we be outplayed?

fantasticfins
05-28-2004, 02:30 PM
I hate the Patriots!!
Sorry for the wasted Bandwith. I just had to say that.

Driven
05-28-2004, 03:05 PM
I don't know about you, but I'm sick of constantly hearing about how great the freakin' Patsies are. First off, in this age of free agency and salary cap, there are no dynasties and frankly, the Patsies couldn't hold the '72 Dolphins or the '78 Steelers jockstraps. In fact, I don't think they could beat very many previous Super Bowl teams.

What really hurts, and its why so many of us are negative and mad as all get out, is that the Dolphins are a better team; we just don't put it together.
Our receivers (Boston, Chambers, and McMichael) are better, our O-line sucked last year, but our line should be as good as theirs this year. Certainly, our defense is as good, if not better, than the Patsies. Our ST's suffered last year, but again, this year, we are as good, if not better. I'll take Ricky, Rob, Minor, etc. over even Dillion - so we win the RB battle. It will come down to them having a better QB and a better Head Coach. I'm not that impressed with Brady. I think with a different Coach and team, Brady would be mediocre - Weiss and Bellichick are the best in the league right now.

It comes down to our QB gents. If we are effective with that position and don't shoot ourselves in the foot...we'll be fine. I hope so, because I am tired of hearing how great the mediocre Patsies are.

Your kidding right?

So this whole time Miami has been better than the Pats? Not impressed with Brady? Did you read any of your post? That post was just plain bitterness and nothing more.

FinFan57
05-28-2004, 03:09 PM
Bitterness, huh? I'll tell you what DRIVEN, let's switch coaches and see what happens. Your boy Brady will crumble like old bread and the Dolphins will be in the Super Bowl. Bellichick is a great coach, the best in the league, right now. We have the better roster though.

Driven
05-28-2004, 03:22 PM
Bitterness, huh? I'll tell you what DRIVEN, let's switch coaches and see what happens. Your boy Brady will crumble like old bread and the Dolphins will be in the Super Bowl. Bellichick is a great coach, the best in the league, right now. We have the better roster though.

Better roster? I think the past 3 years has shown who has the better roster. Back up your post with some facts!! Listen Miami and the Pats are close in talent, the difference is the Pats win big games, Miami doesn't.

So you really think Miami has a better Offensive roster? Get you head out of the clouds.

FinFan57
05-28-2004, 03:26 PM
I'll let you have this moment. After all, we kicked your butts for so many years; you deserve to have a couple of good years. I will concede you have the best coach in the league and some good players. I simply believe our roster is better and we have a lousy coaching staff. If BB was our coach, we'd win the Super Bowl this year.

MDFINFAN
05-28-2004, 03:33 PM
I'm sorry but I think it comes down to coaching

And we've out coached them in the last 4 games, but their players have made the plays when we've miss the chances we've had..so I don't buy the coach thing..

FinFan57
05-28-2004, 03:39 PM
Like I said, we'll take Bellichick and give them Wanny. Let's see who wins what then.

DolphinzD
05-28-2004, 04:16 PM
I think the talent level of the two teams is very close. New England has an advantage in coaching. Whether it's the players, the coach, combination of both, whatever, there is no denying the fact that the Patriots simply win the big games, and the Dolphins don't. And that's why they've won two out of the last three Super Bowls, and the Dolphins have one play-off appearance (a loss) over that same timeframe.

4Dfins
05-28-2004, 04:33 PM
The Pats folks can brag all they want and earned the right. Their team made plays when they needed to, and ours did not. Our guys missed FG's, threw picks, and dropped key passes, while the Pats didn't. We could have won the 2 games against them, but we did not. In overtime, Brady hit Brown in stride on the bomb that beat us. Brady may not be the best passer in the league, but he makes good reads and puts the ball on the money...amazing how that works, can you imagine if we had a QB that made good reads and was accurate...or inother words, could throw?

ltfinfan
05-28-2004, 04:35 PM
with all this crying going on i feel like i am at home with my kids

Justasportsfan
05-28-2004, 04:53 PM
I don't know about you, but I'm sick of constantly hearing about how great the freakin' Patsies are. First off, in this age of free agency and salary cap, there are no dynasties and frankly, the Patsies couldn't hold the '72 Dolphins or the '78 Steelers jockstraps. In fact, I don't think they could beat very many previous Super Bowl teams.

What really hurts, and its why so many of us are negative and mad as all get out, is that the Dolphins are a better team; we just don't put it together.
Our receivers (Boston, Chambers, and McMichael) are better, our O-line sucked last year, but our line should be as good as theirs this year. Certainly, our defense is as good, if not better, than the Patsies. Our ST's suffered last year, but again, this year, we are as good, if not better. I'll take Ricky, Rob, Minor, etc. over even Dillion - so we win the RB battle. It will come down to them having a better QB and a better Head Coach. I'm not that impressed with Brady. I think with a different Coach and team, Brady would be mediocre - Weiss and Bellichick are the best in the league right now.

It comes down to our QB gents. If we are effective with that position and don't shoot ourselves in the foot...we'll be fine. I hope so, because I am tired of hearing how great the mediocre Patsies are.The fins better than the Pats? No need to start a pissing contest based on opinions . The sb rings speak for themselves and serve as fact. I'm a division rival fan too and truth does hurt but I'm not in denial. They are the best team in the NFL.

I'm sure back in the early 70's finfans then were bragging and arrogant just like Pats fans are today. Success allows them to do that. It's their time for now.

mikefan22
05-28-2004, 10:08 PM
The fins better than the Pats? No need to start a pissing contest based on opinions . The sb rings speak for themselves and serve as fact. I'm a division rival fan too and truth does hurt but I'm not in denial. They are the best team in the NFL.

I'm sure back in the early 70's finfans then were bragging and arrogant just like Pats fans are today. Success allows them to do that. It's their time for now.

AMEN. Great call justa! :D

Cannonboy
05-28-2004, 10:24 PM
Difference between pats and fins. The pats hve the better coach. The fins will never win the super bowl as long as wanny is coach. He does not adapt to how the game flows, he can't motivate his players and he always looks lost on the sideline. Let parcells or Bellichick coach the fins and I guarantee we will win more than 1 super bowl. How can this team have any confidence in winning the game, when the coach on the sideline looks lost. I love the fins as much as anyone, but I would never ever trust wanny in a big game.

BSQX4
05-28-2004, 10:58 PM
Last year I thought Miami was the better team than the Pats. Going in I thought we would win both games against them. We all saw what happened on the field so apparently I was wrong but we played them very tough and I still can't understand why our Safetys let Troy Brown get behind them on the winning score. I guess that's one of the reasons that Marion was cut but honestly it never should have come to that, we did play the heck out of them. This year I believe our O-Line is going to be very good under Coach Wise and Rickeys going to have some room to run for a change. New England peaked at the right time and looked awesome against Manning and held on against a scrappy Carolina team that played New England very tough and physical but the Pats won so I've got to give them there due. By getting Dillon to run the ball and Wilfork to anchor the D-Line they've reloaded and will be tougher than ever. Thet also picked up a very talented Tight End in Ben Watson who has great speed and can really help them, as if they didn't have enough. I look for Feeley to be the wildcard here and step it up and play great Football for the Fins and if he does that we will give the Champs all they can handle and it wouldn't surprise me if we kicked their a**** bigtime. Plus, Bradys been too darn healthy for my liking, maybe this year he'll get hurt like other Q.B.s. Who does he think he is? Favre?

upstart
05-29-2004, 05:17 PM
I think the Fins are a great team that had some bad luck last year. :roflmao:
This year we all start out 0-0 with some luck the Fins could win the SB.

good luck

TigerJ
05-29-2004, 10:57 PM
I agree. We've heard quite enough of the Patsies. Its time for the Bills to assert themselves and assume their rightful place atop the AFC
East. :D

Phin19
05-31-2004, 07:58 PM
I agree. We've heard quite enough of the Patsies. Its time for the Bills to assert themselves and assume their rightful place atop the AFC
East. :D

:lol: :lol:

forget it, not gonna happen

TigerJ
05-31-2004, 10:31 PM
I knew I'd get a rise out of someone! LOL!

Driven
06-01-2004, 07:45 AM
The fins better than the Pats? No need to start a pissing contest based on opinions . The sb rings speak for themselves and serve as fact. I'm a division rival fan too and truth does hurt but I'm not in denial. They are the best team in the NFL.

I'm sure back in the early 70's finfans then were bragging and arrogant just like Pats fans are today. Success allows them to do that. It's their time for now.

Thanks Justa..it's been a long time waiting.

Driven
06-03-2004, 09:02 AM
Last year I thought Miami was the better team than the Pats. Going in I thought we would win both games against them. We all saw what happened on the field so apparently I was wrong but we played them very tough and I still can't understand why our Safetys let Troy Brown get behind them on the winning score. I guess that's one of the reasons that Marion was cut but honestly it never should have come to that, we did play the heck out of them. This year I believe our O-Line is going to be very good under Coach Wise and Rickeys going to have some room to run for a change. New England peaked at the right time and looked awesome against Manning and held on against a scrappy Carolina team that played New England very tough and physical but the Pats won so I've got to give them there due. By getting Dillon to run the ball and Wilfork to anchor the D-Line they've reloaded and will be tougher than ever. Thet also picked up a very talented Tight End in Ben Watson who has great speed and can really help them, as if they didn't have enough. I look for Feeley to be the wildcard here and step it up and play great Football for the Fins and if he does that we will give the Champs all they can handle and it wouldn't surprise me if we kicked their a**** bigtime. Plus, Bradys been too darn healthy for my liking, maybe this year he'll get hurt like other Q.B.s. Who does he think he is? Favre?

Wrong Miami did not have a better team last year......Miami did not win the SB, the Patriots did. Do you understand how dumb you sound when you say Miami was a better team than the Super Bowl Champs? How long have you been watching football?

The Myth
06-07-2004, 08:58 AM
How sad that you think that just saying the Fins have a better team would make it so. The game the Patriots won in Miami last season should have been over befor the overtime. If the Refs had called your WR out of bounds like he was. Or they had called RickyW. down befor he got the first down like he was. But The Patriot players beat the Fin players on the field in spite of it. Now if your team was so good. What happend to them up in New England? How pathetic. As for switching coaches:roflmao: . Bob Kraft would never have hired That clown you call a coach in the first place.

82YARDotBOMB
06-07-2004, 11:52 AM
wow fins fans are not that bright--just wow- coaching is part of it sure, but the players still need to actually go out and perform. if someone else was the head coach u think brady will forget how to throw the ball??he will lose he accuracy?? he will lose his intangibles? he will lose his ability to read defenses?? he will lose his quick release? he will lose his smarts?? those pats sb teams can beat a lot of sb teams imo.

that first sb team pulled off the greatest upset in sb history and dont give me that jet/colt crap.so-called experts were predicting all time sb point scoring records for the rams and predicting they would cover the 2 td spread by the end of the first quarter- please dont compare era's, the 72 dolphins would beat vs last years pats??? lollol just stop it, players are bigger, stronger, and faster then ever in nearly every position. last years pats front 4 would have completely bull dozed that 72 phins o-line backwards with authority within a second because of the size,strenght and weight difference. the game wouldnt even have been close