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caneproud117
07-31-2004, 07:26 PM
"I think this should concern anybody," Solomon said. "If I was speaking lightly, I would say that people in their, quote, right minds, unquote, don't care much for President Bush and his policies in Iraq."

CNN Study (http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/07/30/vote.psych.reut/index.html)

MoFinz
07-31-2004, 08:55 PM
Geeze...how bored are you to look up this tripe?

Just because when prompted to think about marshmallows, people favored Kerry........

caneproud117
07-31-2004, 09:34 PM
Nah, i go on both cnn.com and cbsnews.com and foxnews.com just to check up on articles every now and again. Thought this article was very interesting coming from a credible specialist in his field of study.

DolphinDevil28
07-31-2004, 10:00 PM
What a surprise CNN would post some crap like that.

Clumpy
07-31-2004, 11:12 PM
What a surprise CNN would post some crap like that.


But if the Facist News Channel posted something similiar about Kerry, it's reputable? :shakeno:

DolphinDevil28
07-31-2004, 11:34 PM
No, I admit Fox leans to the right, but it's only fair for conservatives to have their channel if the libs have the Clinton News Network.

And CNN is way more liberal than Fox is conservative.

caneproud117
07-31-2004, 11:42 PM
No, I admit Fox leans to the right, but it's only fair for conservatives to have their channel if the libs have the Clinton News Network.

And CNN is way more liberal than Fox is conservative.

Care to prove that argument?

DolphinDevil28
07-31-2004, 11:43 PM
That's just from my judgement, calm down.

Sorry if you disagree.

caneproud117
07-31-2004, 11:47 PM
That's just from my judgement, calm down.

Sorry if you disagree.

I dunno I could be wrong but I hear way more people refering to Fox News as right wing bias than I do about CNN being left wing bias

DolphinDevil28
07-31-2004, 11:56 PM
That's because liberals b1tch way more about everything than conservatives do.

And that is NOT an opinion.

Clumpy
08-01-2004, 12:01 AM
That's because liberals b1tch way more about everything than conservatives do.

And that is NOT an opinion.


I doubt that's true. Look at it from the left and the right whines just as much.

ohall
08-01-2004, 12:36 AM
Care to prove that argument?

I can prove that without a doubt.

The ppl covering the DNC were mainly DEM's on FNC. Same as on CNN and MSNBC.

FNC had O'Reilly an IND @ 8PM. Hannity is a REP, Colmes is a DEM @ 9PM. Then you have Gretta who is a DEM, then they had a former Clinton campaign manager and they had a writer for a DEM news paper @ 10PM.

On MSNBC they had 2 REP's on their shows to cover the DNC. Scarborough is a REP, Bucannon is a REP (Sorta). Trippey a DEM he's the former Dean campaign manager, Ron Reagan a DEM, and the guy who knows who deep throat is from the watergate scandal is a DEM, I can't remember his name sorry. They also had the former mayor of LA I believe, a DEM. And Didi Myers Clintons former PS. And of course Chris Matthews is a DEM a former aid for Carter, although he did vote for Bush #43 the last election because he said he was tired of anything Clinton.

Everyone knows that CNN only has DEM's on their network short of crossfire that is. And those REP's are push overs as far as I'm concerned.

All you have to do is turn on those news networks and watch their primetime shows to know what side they stand on this election and specifically the past DNC. The news media is dominated by DEM's, even on FNC. However they have to make an attempt to be fair n' balanced or they get the AXE on FNC. I iwsh more channels were like that. No reporter should always be one sided in what they write or report.

Oliver...

Karl_12
08-01-2004, 12:59 AM
O'Reilly an Independent! :lol: He is a Republican, not as far to the right as Hannity but still is one. Hannity and Colmes is a joke, Colmes has no balls to stand up to Hannity.

ohall
08-01-2004, 01:04 AM
O'Reilly an Independent! :lol: He is a Republican, not as far to the right as Hannity but still is one. Hannity and Colmes is a joke, Colmes has no balls to stand up to Hannity.

You can be a conservative IND, just as you can be a conservative DEM. The FACT is O'Reilly is an IND, Hannity is a REP, and Colmes is a DEM. I agree Colmes is there for nothing more than to be a beaten stick for Hannity. Although I'm not sure any DEM can handle Hannity. Say what you want, but the guy is always well prepared when he makes his arguments.

You can dismiss this as much as you want, but those are the FACTS. Even on FNC they are dominated by DEM leaning hosts and news reporters. What they do not allow is out right left leaning. There's no doubt about that, just as CNN does not allow out right right leaning.

Oliver...

caneproud117
08-01-2004, 09:47 AM
You can be a conservative IND, just as you can be a conservative DEM. The FACT is O'Reilly is an IND, Hannity is a REP, and Colmes is a DEM. I agree Colmes is there for nothing more than to be a beaten stick for Hannity. Although I'm not sure any DEM can handle Hannity. Say what you want, but the guy is always well prepared when he makes his arguments.

You can dismiss this as much as you want, but those are the FACTS. Even on FNC they are dominated by DEM leaning hosts and news reporters. What they do not allow is out right left leaning. There's no doubt about that, just as CNN does not allow out right right leaning.

Oliver...

What he said was that CNN is Way more liberal than Fox News is Conservative. By the way, I have Independant on my voters card, but I would vote Democratic 8 times out of 10 because of they have the principles I believe in most. It doesn't really matter what you put on your voters card your history of voting and the way you argue your point should tell you whether a person is a republican or a democrat.

PhinPhan1227
08-01-2004, 10:31 AM
I dunno I could be wrong but I hear way more people refering to Fox News as right wing bias than I do about CNN being left wing bias


CNN is owned by Ted Turner. You know him...he's the guy married to Jane "Hanoi Hilton" Fonda. If Fox was owned by Pat Robertson I'd believe that they are more slanted than CNN.

PhinPhan1227
08-01-2004, 10:32 AM
Nah, i go on both cnn.com and cbsnews.com and foxnews.com just to check up on articles every now and again. Thought this article was very interesting coming from a credible specialist in his field of study.


A credible specialist who has an admited grudge against Bush? Anyone ever tell you what happens when you start an experiment with a pre-existing bias? You find ways to prove the theory rather than seek the truth.

caneproud117
08-01-2004, 11:03 AM
A credible specialist who has an admited grudge against Bush? Anyone ever tell you what happens when you start an experiment with a pre-existing bias? You find ways to prove the theory rather than seek the truth.

Everyone starts their experiment with a pre-existing bias it's called a hypothesis.

PhinPhan1227
08-01-2004, 12:40 PM
Everyone starts their experiment with a pre-existing bias it's called a hypothesis.

A hypothesis is what you think MIGHT happen, based on the evidence already in place. A bias means you have an outcome you WANT to have happen. There's a WORLD of difference bewtween the two.

DolFan31
08-01-2004, 12:59 PM
CNN is owned by Ted Turner. You know him...he's the guy married to Jane "Hanoi Hilton" Fonda. If Fox was owned by Pat Robertson I'd believe that they are more slanted than CNN.

Fox is owned by Rupert Murdoch, a heavy Republican financial contributor. The network's #2 is Robert Ailes, aka Bush's first cousin, who also was the one who gave the heads up in 2000 to call the election for Bush.

PhinPhan1227
08-01-2004, 01:01 PM
Fox is owned by Rupert Murdoch, a heavy Republican financial contributor. The network's #2 is Robert Ailes, aka Bush's first cousin, who also was the one who gave the heads up in 2000 to call the election for Bush.


Hey, Fox DOES have a right wing bias, no question. But Ted Turner is the closest thing to a Capitalist Communist you will ever find.

DolFan31
08-01-2004, 01:02 PM
Can you name ONE liberal host of a "talking head" political show? You know, someone like Phil Donahue, the one liberal talk show host who was canned for the sake of the conservative media(his ratings were good). Every liberal host has a conservative counterpart(Hannity and Colmes, which is really one sided, Crossfire, Bucananon and Press). Conservative hosts have their own shows without a liberal host(Scarbourough, O'Riley).

Section126
08-01-2004, 04:05 PM
For what it's worth...O'reilly did not vote for Bush in 2000.

PhinPhan1227
08-01-2004, 04:43 PM
Can you name ONE liberal host of a "talking head" political show? You know, someone like Phil Donahue, the one liberal talk show host who was canned for the sake of the conservative media(his ratings were good). Every liberal host has a conservative counterpart(Hannity and Colmes, which is really one sided, Crossfire, Bucananon and Press). Conservative hosts have their own shows without a liberal host(Scarbourough, O'Riley).


Who needs them? You've got every news anchor and interviewer on CBS, NBC, and ABC. Who gets higher ratings, Katie Couric or O'Reilly? The left doesn't need shows dedicated to the left...the public wouldn't be able to tell them apart from NightLine.

ohall
08-02-2004, 12:08 AM
Can you name ONE liberal host of a "talking head" political show? You know, someone like Phil Donahue, the one liberal talk show host who was canned for the sake of the conservative media(his ratings were good). Every liberal host has a conservative counterpart(Hannity and Colmes, which is really one sided, Crossfire, Bucananon and Press). Conservative hosts have their own shows without a liberal host(Scarbourough, O'Riley).

Hardball with Chris Mathews on MSNBC.

The Abrahms report on MSNBC

Gretta Vansomething on FNC

Every show on CNN outside of Crossfire.

Oliver...

Muck
08-02-2004, 12:10 AM
What a surprise CNN would post some crap like that.

You work for CNN, right?? :tongue:

ABrownLamp
08-02-2004, 12:42 AM
Hardball with Chris Mathews on MSNBC.

The Abrahms report on MSNBC

Gretta Vansomething on FNC

Every show on CNN outside of Crossfire.

Oliver...
What in the world makes you think Chris Mathews is a liberal?

DolFan31
08-02-2004, 10:42 PM
What in the world makes you think Chris Mathews is a liberal?

Just cuz Matthews was one of Carter's councils. In fact though Id say Matthews is center-right. Abrams is a lawyer and Greta is mostly news not politics. I meant liberal political talk shows. So how do liberal journalists on the main networks possibly mean a liberal bias when its been revealed that the EDITORS which determine the news stories are CONSERVATIVE.

BTW: CNN is no way liberal. Lou Dobbs maybe, but besides him and Crossfire, there is definately no liberal bias on that network.

Section126
08-02-2004, 11:09 PM
Chris Mathews worked for Tip O'Neil and has been against the Iraq war on his show since the War started...He also carries water for anybody that is against the War......He is a lifelong Democrat...But is mostly fair....and down the middle.....Just not on the War.

Section126
08-02-2004, 11:11 PM
Just cuz Matthews was one of Carter's councils. In fact though Id say Matthews is center-right. Abrams is a lawyer and Greta is mostly news not politics. I meant liberal political talk shows. So how do liberal journalists on the main networks possibly mean a liberal bias when its been revealed that the EDITORS which determine the news stories are CONSERVATIVE.

BTW: CNN is no way liberal. Lou Dobbs maybe, but besides him and Crossfire, there is definately no liberal bias on that network.

As for CNN.....Lou Dobbs is actually the only fair one on that Network.......I would venture to guess that every single anchor and host on CNN is a liberal.....

CNN is heavily Left Wing...it's unwatchable.

Karl_12
08-03-2004, 12:18 AM
Chris Mathews worked for Tip O'Neil and has been against the Iraq war on his show since the War started...He also carries water for anybody that is against the War......He is a lifelong Democrat...But is mostly fair....and down the middle.....Just not on the War.So just because he doesn’t support the war he is liberal?

Karl_12
08-03-2004, 12:20 AM
As for CNN.....Lou Dobbs is actually the only fair one on that Network.......I would venture to guess that every single anchor and host on CNN is a liberal.....

CNN is heavily Left Wing...it's unwatchable.Funny, I feel the same way about Fox News right wing bias.;)

ohall
08-03-2004, 01:01 AM
What in the world makes you think Chris Mathews is a liberal?

Hmm let me think, ummm he has said over and over he is and HE WORKED FOR CARTER!

As I said he didn't vote for Gore in 2000 because he had enough of anything Clinton.

Oliver...

PhinPhan1227
08-03-2004, 03:34 AM
Just cuz Matthews was one of Carter's councils. In fact though Id say Matthews is center-right. Abrams is a lawyer and Greta is mostly news not politics. I meant liberal political talk shows. So how do liberal journalists on the main networks possibly mean a liberal bias when its been revealed that the EDITORS which determine the news stories are CONSERVATIVE.

BTW: CNN is no way liberal. Lou Dobbs maybe, but besides him and Crossfire, there is definately no liberal bias on that network.


Once again...Ted Turner. If Adolf Hitler owns the company, there's AUTOMATICALLY a bias against Jews...same thing with Ted Turner and Republicans.

ABrownLamp
08-03-2004, 03:40 AM
I don;t think anyone would admit they were liberal nowadays, especially with the way REPS have demonized the word. I certainly have never heard Mathews say he was and common sense would tell me that he wouldn;t considering the show he is on.

And then you say the proof of his allegiance lies in the fact that he worked for a DEM over 20 years ago. But yet you say he wants to distance himself from the last DEM president. So I guess somewhere in between the two you have labelled him a liberal? Doesn't make sense to me.

iceblizzard69
08-03-2004, 09:18 AM
Once again...Ted Turner. If Adolf Hitler owns the company, there's AUTOMATICALLY a bias against Jews...same thing with Ted Turner and Republicans.

And if Rupert Murdoch owns a company, there is AUTOMATICALLY a bias against Democrats. I would say CNN and FNC are both biased. Democrats are going to say FNC is more biased and Republicans are going to say CNN is more biased. Studies show that the same percentage who watch CNN that will vote Kerry is roughly the same as the percentage of FNC viewers that will vote Bush. It's stupid to argue if one is more biased than the other.

DolFan31
08-03-2004, 10:04 AM
Chris Mathews worked for Tip O'Neil and has been against the Iraq war on his show since the War started...He also carries water for anybody that is against the War......He is a lifelong Democrat...But is mostly fair....and down the middle.....Just not on the War.

Actually Matthews was very pro-war, as was most of the media.

Bay Bucannon was also against the war, as was Pat Bucannon(anyone know of any relationship there?). Does that make them Democrats too?