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iceblizzard69
08-28-2004, 09:44 AM
The refs are screwing Blackburn so much this year. Last week, Southampton was awarded a BS penalty in extra time which they of course scored and that was the game winner. This week, the refs gave 4 minutes of extra time which was way too much. Blackburn was beating ManUre 1-0 and then Alan Smith scored in extra time that shouldn't have even existed. That's now 3 points that Blackburn has been screwed out of this year. Brad Friedel had a great game and even though Manchester United did dominate we deserved the win since they scored in the 93rd minute which shouldn't have existed! :yell: :yell:

Prime Time
08-28-2004, 03:08 PM
Honestly, you sound like you are whining right here. Who says 4 minutes was too much extra time? You? The ref called what he felt was correct. They didn't get screwed. They choked. Can't stop a team for 4 more mins, then you do not deserve to win. Also, you say Man U. dominated game and you say Blackburn deserves to win? Um no, according to what you said, Man U deserved to win. I bet If Man U. loses this game, a Man U. fan would say, we deserved to win. And let me add to this. You got 4 mins of extra time? So what?! Play the cards you are dealt.

Mebeverine
08-28-2004, 03:45 PM
Honestly, you sound like you are whining right here. Who says 4 minutes was too much extra time? You? The ref called what he felt was correct.

The extra time sign said 3 minutes. The referee gave 4 and a half. That is a screw job right there.

Prime Time
08-28-2004, 03:52 PM
The extra time sign said 3 minutes. The referee gave 4 and a half. That is a screw job right there.

Last time I checked.....the main Ref has the final say in what goes on, on the field. He felt there should have been 4 mins and a half, so there was. No screw job there.

Mebeverine
08-28-2004, 04:26 PM
Last time I checked.....the main Ref has the final say in what goes on, on the field. He felt there should have been 4 mins and a half, so there was. No screw job there.

The "main ref" also is the one who tells the 4th official what amount of minutes to put on the board...for some reason he changed his mind from 3 to nearly 5 DURING the alloted period, in which there were very few stoppages.

Prime Time
08-28-2004, 06:07 PM
The "main ref" also is the one who tells the 4th official what amount of minutes to put on the board...for some reason he changed his mind from 3 to nearly 5 DURING the alloted period, in which there were very few stoppages.


Ever think there could have been a mistake? Like the 4th ref misunderstanding him?

iceblizzard69
08-28-2004, 06:45 PM
Last time I checked.....the main Ref has the final say in what goes on, on the field. He felt there should have been 4 mins and a half, so there was. No screw job there.

I watched the game. You probably didn't. You have no idea what you are talking about. There was clearly too much extra time given and it cost Blackburn 3 points. Manchester United did get a lot more shots on goal but Brad Friedel was great today (it's the best I've seen him play in over a year) and we deserved 3 points. Instead we got one.

Mebeverine
08-29-2004, 08:33 AM
Ever think there could have been a mistake? Like the 4th ref misunderstanding him?

Nope. The board CLEARLY said 3 minutes, then Ferguson went and got mad at the 4th Official, and they changed it to 4. Ridiculous.

You didn't watch the game so how the hell would you know? I did, and am completely unbiased...


and we deserved 3 points. Instead we got one.

I think that's debateable. Brad Friedel deserved 3 points, but Blackburn no way deserved to win the game.

Pink_Dove
08-29-2004, 01:01 PM
In other news Arsenal was absolutely dominant against Norwich...(BTW i'm not an Arsenal fan but just appreciate their brand of soccer and TEAM play = excellent chemistry)
Man Utd is not in the same class as Arsenal..To need extra time to beat Blackburn...Also not only was their too much time added on but SAHA clearly touched the ball with his hand a la maradona before it fell in Smith's lap...

I'm curious to see how Chelsea looks...Bodz or anyone else can you guys tell me how Chelsea and my main man Drogba have looked so far ?

Bodzilla29
08-29-2004, 01:17 PM
I didn't get to see the match(damn television...we get Blackburn - Man Utd, Spurs - Birmingham, and Arse - Norwich...what the hell? NO Chelsea?) but apparently Tiago has been a revelation in the midfield and it looks like Lamps is getting back to his best, slowly as it may seem. After Beattie's goal Chelsea dominated play in the first half, probobly the best we have looked so far this season, is that correct Meb?

Droba, as I have been told, looked very very dangerous yesterday. Steve Clarke, Chelsea's asst. manager, said Drogba is getting better every match and isn't completely fit yet.

Mebeverine was at yesterday's match in Stamford Bridge(I assume, he IS a season ticket holder afterall, lucky bastard! :) ) so he should be able to tell you what he has seen up close and personal.

Mebeverine
08-29-2004, 01:23 PM
I'm curious to see how Chelsea looks...Bodz or anyone else can you guys tell me how Chelsea and my main man Drogba have looked so far ?

Started pretty ominously, but we're on our way to playing excellent football now. Still not in Arsenal's league attacking wise though.

With both our natural widemen injured and with us playing with either 3 in midfield, or diamond we've lacked width. Our fullbacks need to get forward more, especially Ferreira who has been anonymous so far.

Defensively we've been excellent, with Cech making only 3 saves so far this season. Makelele and Terry have been superb.

Lampard has been his normal self: very limited ideas, taking way too many shots, but coming up clutch when we need him. Much improved yesterday, but I sitll hate the way he shoots everytime he gets forward. Still has tons of work to do on his overall game however, he can be great.

Joe Cole has been decent. He's being used as a 3rd striker right now, and he's made some nice moves. His shooting and passing are still dire though and he needs to play much better.

Tiago looks absolutely excellent: he's courageous, hard tackling a good passer, intelligent and he's not scared to have a shot.

Up front Drogba has been very hit and miss. He shows the potential to hold the ball up well, he's powerful and quick and he works all game. However, his first touch has been poor at times, and he's not always as threatning as he should be. I'm still very hopeful for him, and he has exceeded my expectations thus far! Doesn't look anything like a £24 striker at the moment though. Much, much better yersterday.

Gudjohnsen has been very average, Kezman looks promising. I'd still rather we signed Rooney, but it's looking unlikely. He'd be almost the perfect partner for Drogba.

Best players so far (in order) Terry, Tiago, Makalele, Gallas/Carvalho, Drogba
Dissapointing players so far (in order) Geremi, Ferreira, Bridge
Need to Improve: Lampard, Gudjohnsen.

Overall, we played boring but effective against United, absolutely terrible against Birmingham, nicely but ineffectively against Crystal Palace and very well against Southampton in the first half, but the 2nd half wasn't what we hoped for. It's looking good so far, but we need Duff and Robben back and I still think we need a Rooney/Tevez like forward. Mourinho seems to want to play with almost 4 guys off of Drogba. He likes 3 midfielders to get into the area to support crosses and when Drogba holds the ball up or gets wide, and he likes the other striker to do similarly.

Hope that helps!

iceblizzard69
08-29-2004, 05:53 PM
I think that's debateable. Brad Friedel deserved 3 points, but Blackburn no way deserved to win the game.

Well, I meant to say we deserved 3 points because Man United should have never scored that goal. They did dominate the second half and definitely put more pressure on than we did. Brad Friedel definitely deserved 3 points. He looked as good as he did in the 2002-2003 season when he was the best keeper in the EPL.

Pink_Dove
08-30-2004, 10:01 AM
More than I expected thanks Meb... :)
I suggest Mourinho employ Drogba the way Marseille did...He was the lone man up front, VERY similar to how Wenger uses Henry...
It's funny to see how the Euro has such an influence confidence wise :
For example Ferreira had a disastrous euro = benched after the opening loss to Greece...and has not recovered.
The same goes for Pauleta (no goals in 6 games i believe) who was an all star last year in the french league and has started off very poorly this year...

Bodzilla29
08-30-2004, 10:48 AM
Pauleta scored a penalty against St. Ettiene last night to open his account this year.

PSG have yet to win a game and they better not change that on September 14th! Two of my friends have birthdays on the 14th as well and they wont want me pissed off so Chelsea better win in Paris! haha

Mebeverine
08-30-2004, 11:11 AM
I suggest Mourinho employ Drogba the way Marseille did...He was the lone man up front, VERY similar to how Wenger uses Henry...

That's how he is using him basically.

Also, Henry is playing off of Reyes so far this season.

Pink_Dove
08-31-2004, 09:16 AM
Bodz,
Saw the PSG - Saint-Etienne game (we get the games here so I follow the french league more than any other) and althought Pauleta converted the PK he was still dreadful IMO...
PSG replaced Sorin, Heinze and Déhu with Armand, Yepes ( both bought from Nantes) and Rothen (who was excellent last year with Monaco)
but the 3 replacements havnt done the job (as evidenced on the Saint-Etienne equalizer from Piquionne where Yepes and Armand did a horrible job defending)
Meb talking about Reyes, what's your opinion of him ?

Mebeverine
08-31-2004, 02:22 PM
Meb talking about Reyes, what's your opinion of him ?

Absolutely brilliant. Will be one of the best players of his generation. Unfortunately, once Barcelona come calling, he's off, regardless of how good Arsenal are.

Bodzilla29
08-31-2004, 02:44 PM
Ya I missed the PSG match but it is on again this week. Didn't PSG also buy Edouard Cissé from Monaco? And where did Sorin go(was he on loan last year?). I haven't seen Pauleta yet this year, but I definately take your word for it.

Rothen is good, but a good fullback can neutralize him pretty easily, in my opinion.

Meb, I was unaware of Reyes' affinity for Barca, where does that come from? I thought he was a gypsy lad from the slums of Seville? I have no clue, but I wouldn't think this would be a hotbed for Barca support.

Mebeverine
08-31-2004, 03:25 PM
Meb, I was unaware of Reyes' affinity for Barca, where does that come from? I thought he was a gypsy lad from the slums of Seville? I have no clue, but I wouldn't think this would be a hotbed for Barca support.

He hates Real apparently. In Spain, Barcelona and Real are seen as gods regardless of who you support. If the chance to play for one of them comes, even Arsenal fans accept he'll be gone.

Bodzilla29
08-31-2004, 04:47 PM
OK, that makes good sense.

What is the political and religious backgrounds of the 2 clubs(ie. the reasons they hate each other)? I know very little about the history of Spanish footy so if anybody could provide a quick synopsis it would be great appreciated!

Mebeverine
08-31-2004, 05:37 PM
What is the political and religious backgrounds of the 2 clubs(ie. the reasons they hate each other)? I know very little about the history of Spanish footy so if anybody could provide a quick synopsis it would be great appreciated!

Regionalism combined with the fact that they are both full of ego and the two most popular teams in Spain.

Madrid are THE team of the Spanish establishment - appointed so because of their fame.

Barcelona are THE club of Catelonia -for the same reason.

Spanish society, and football plays a huge part in European society, is dominated by regionalism. While in English football, inner city teams tend to be rivals, Spain tends to be regional.

The Basques in the North and Catalans don't see themselves as Spanish entirely , they have different languages and cultures. They see themselves almost as seperate to Spain.

Madrid represent traditional Spain, Barcelona represent the Catalans.

When you add to this the fact that that the two teams are insanely successful, you have one of the most heated rivalries in football.

Pink_Dove
09-01-2004, 10:14 AM
Ya I missed the PSG match but it is on again this week. Didn't PSG also buy Edouard Cissé from Monaco? And where did Sorin go(was he on loan last year?). I haven't seen Pauleta yet this year, but I definately take your word for it.

Rothen is good, but a good fullback can neutralize him pretty easily, in my opinion.

Meb, I was unaware of Reyes' affinity for Barca, where does that come from? I thought he was a gypsy lad from the slums of Seville? I have no clue, but I wouldn't think this would be a hotbed for Barca support.

Cissé was on a loan last year to Monaco so they retained him...
As for Sorin, he was loaned to PSG by Cruzeiro...They prefered the high profile signing of Rothen over him (Rothen being from Paris, grew up as a boy idolizing the club etc...VERY anticipated signing that had all PSG fans excited i.e most of my friends)

In other news Wiltord was snapped up by Lyon yesterday...
Fiorèse (former PSG striker who recently had a run in with the coach) was bought by Marseilles to replace Mido (signed by AS Roma !?!?! tallied only 7 goals in 22 games with Drogba by his side)

Am I the only one fearing Spain in the future...Off the top of my head Joaquin,Torres and Reyes are 3 young guns who have the chance to be world class...

Mebeverine
09-01-2004, 12:59 PM
Am I the only one fearing Spain in the future...Off the top of my head Joaquin,Torres and Reyes are 3 young guns who have the chance to be world class...

Spain are effectively a joke.

The Basque and Catalan players flat out can't play with the Spaniards. Their team now is the most talented in the world. Their team in 96 was the most talented in the world.

What have they got to show for it?

Nothing.

And I doubt they will do in the next 10-15 years at least.