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Natedogg1335
09-03-2004, 12:59 PM
So whats up with the pats defense?? i understand its preseason but im in the northeast and while watching games the faces on the sidelines of both the coaching staff and players look pretty encouraging to a dolfan like myself. whats everyone think?

darkoak
09-03-2004, 01:00 PM
So whats up with the pats defense?? i understand its preseason but im in the northeast and while watching games the faces on the sidelines of both the coaching staff and players look pretty encouraging to a dolfan like myself. whats everyone think?
Belichick will weild his dark powers and they'll be fine.

tylaw4president
09-03-2004, 01:05 PM
First string defense will be fine. They shutdown the Eagles, laid an egg against Cincy, and then handled the Panthers. Not one starter on either side of the ball stepped on the field against Jacksonville.

Philter25
09-03-2004, 01:17 PM
exactly, they didnt play a single starter last night

what the pats NEED to be worried about is a backup QB. They are doomed if Brady gets hurt, even for 1 game. Davey looked horrible and is probably the WORST backup in the NFL, maybe only Cory Sauter from Indy has him beat....

They have a questionable Oline but they would be better off with Jim Abbott as their backup QB.

Dol-Fan Dupree
09-03-2004, 01:18 PM
That is weird, Davey looked so freaking good in NFLE.

Philter25
09-03-2004, 01:22 PM
That is weird, Davey looked so freaking good in NFLE.
that he did, I got to see 2 pats preseason games cause they were nationally televised and Davey looked like crap. Any non-homer pats fan will tell you they are worried about their backup QB and their Oline, not their defense.

FlyingElvis
09-03-2004, 01:32 PM
Pats 2nd and 3rd stringers played the Jags starters to a standstill. Fourth quarter turnovers made the score lopsided.

And I agree, backup QB is the one major concern. The latest rumor is that Doug Flutie could be cut and will wind up in NE. I'm sure BB isn't too comfortable with Davey as #2 at this point.

Boriqua
09-03-2004, 01:40 PM
That is weird, Davey looked so freaking good in NFLE.

keyword their is "NFL EUROPE"... This is the NFL... I love wathing the pats fail.... I love it

XNOUGHT
09-03-2004, 01:43 PM
keyword their is "NFL EUROPE"... This is the NFL... I love wathing the pats fail.... I love it

To bad the games don't count huh. :D



Ya Davey is a hole. Maybe Dan Marino would like to come back and be a 2nd stringer for us. He could finally win a ring that way.

Dol-Fan Dupree
09-03-2004, 01:44 PM
keyword their is "NFL EUROPE"... This is the NFL... I love wathing the pats fail.... I love it

generally good quarterbacks in NFLE are good back ups in the NFL. If you have been paying ANY attention to NFLE at all, you would know that.

SBCHAMPSPHINZ
09-03-2004, 01:48 PM
Belichick will weild his dark powers and they'll be fine.:roflmao: :roflmao: :lol:

Boriqua
09-03-2004, 01:49 PM
generally good quarterbacks in NFLE are good back ups in the NFL. If you have been paying ANY attention to NFLE at all, you would know that.


your right but its also not uncommon for an NFLE qb who is good to come to the NFL and stink it up...

Dol-Fan Dupree
09-03-2004, 01:54 PM
your right but its also not uncommon for an NFLE qb who is good to come to the NFL and stink it up...

Yea that is true, it is just Davey looked REALLY good. He had all those fun intangibles and made great decisions and great throws. One would think those would carry over into the NFL. At least good enough to look like a decent back up. I thought he looked better then Delhomme when he was in NFLE. I guess Davey will be another kerwin Bell

JD44
09-03-2004, 02:00 PM
So whats up with the pats defense?? i understand its preseason but im in the northeast and while watching games the faces on the sidelines of both the coaching staff and players look pretty encouraging to a dolfan like myself. whats everyone think?
It's preseason, thats the problem...I know BB won't take it when the season starts..Probably just making the other teams think they suck by playing poorly..However, in case this is the true Patsies we can all get a good laugh at them this season .....
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

FlyingElvis
09-03-2004, 02:11 PM
As usual, Belichick is one step ahead of everyone else. Some think he tanked the Bengals game to get Cincy to feel good about themselves since they play in December. And this from a Boston Globe writer:

However, as Nick Cafardo points out in The Boston Globe, "nobody hobbled out of Gillette Stadium and if Indianapolis coach Tony Dungy wanted to glean anything from the Patriots in preparation for Thursday's season opener here, forget it. Bill Belichick showed him nothing."

I know Belichick believes you want to win preseason games because you want your team to get use to winning, but he seemed to take a different approach this preseason. I suspect he knows this team already knows how to win, so he's not worried about that aspect. Just hoping to soften up expectations while showing his own team that they are not invulnerable.

Maybe it will backfire, but I bet he's looking for a formula to repeat as champions which recent history has not been kind to.

And then there's this:

Also in the Globe, Ron Borges (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2004/09/03/file_this_one_as_a_missing_persons_report/) asserts, "it could have been worse, believe it or not. You could have been a Jaguars fan. Or worse, a Jaguars coach. If you were one of the latter, like offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave, how do you explain your first-team offense being held scoreless in the first half by a defense anchored by Randall Gay and Christian Morton at the corners and Dexter Reid at safety?"

Dol-Fan Dupree
09-03-2004, 02:17 PM
yea, because NO coach has EVER thought of that

Philter25
09-03-2004, 02:17 PM
yup. BB decided to tank games on purpose... its all a master plan...



-I swear, Ive met a lot of knowledgeable NE fans that I enjoy talking ball with but come on, you have GOT to be kidding!!

perezferia
09-03-2004, 02:21 PM
So whats up with the pats defense?? i understand its preseason but im in the northeast and while watching games the faces on the sidelines of both the coaching staff and players look pretty encouraging to a dolfan like myself. whats everyone think?

This is just false hope. The Defense will be fine. Look for the Offense to have a tough time (especially running) in the early going cuz Dillon was used to a much better run blocking group than what he's using at NE. My guess is that the run will be stopped by the Colts in the opener and that Kevin Faulk and some screens will save the day. But like I said, NE's offense will NOT be sharp on opening day, you heard it here first.

Prediction: Colts win 30-24

jaxdolfan
09-03-2004, 02:22 PM
I was watching part of the first half of the Jax Ne game and the color guy calling it (Matt Robinson, ex Jet QB) was impressed with what Davey was doing early on. Didnt see the whole game, but those were the few plays I saw early on.

BTW, the Jags first team didnt score a TD all preseason. :lol:

Dol-Fan Dupree
09-03-2004, 02:23 PM
Leftwich has been looking horrible. I hear that the Jags are one of the few teams in the NFL without a quarterback coach. If my memory is correct, they should rethink that.

SBCHAMPSPHINZ
09-03-2004, 02:29 PM
i hope all there starters get injured and we have a field day with them when we play them lol

FlyingElvis
09-03-2004, 02:36 PM
yup. BB decided to tank games on purpose... its all a master plan...



-I swear, Ive met a lot of knowledgeable NE fans that I enjoy talking ball with but come on, you have GOT to be kidding!!Ummm, I said others said it, not me. In this case, it was Chris Mortenson. So bash him.

Leftwich did not look good, but his backup, Garrard, did.

DolphinzD
09-03-2004, 02:42 PM
i hope all there starters get injured and we have a field day with them when we play them lol

I'm hoping the "lol" at the end of that means you're kidding. I don't like the Patriots but I never want to see someone get hurt. Unless, of course, it's someone like Bill Romanowski or Ray Lewis.

tylaw4president
09-03-2004, 02:45 PM
This is just false hope. The Defense will be fine. Look for the Offense to have a tough time (especially running) in the early going cuz Dillon was used to a much better run blocking group than what he's using at NE. My guess is that the run will be stopped by the Colts in the opener and that Kevin Faulk and some screens will save the day. But like I said, NE's offense will NOT be sharp on opening day, you heard it here first.

Prediction: Colts win 30-24

While I agree that Dillion isn't going to see the holes he saw in Cincy (this line is a better pass blocking group), I disagree that the offense will struggle. They looked real sharp against Carolina's starters. The colts have done nothing to improve their defense. If A. Smith can gain a 100 yards on that defense, I don't think Dillion is going to have a problem.

I'm more worried about the illegal contact with the secondary and stopping the run than I am with the offense.

FlyingElvis
09-03-2004, 02:49 PM
I'm more worried about the illegal contact with the secondary and stopping the run than I am with the offense.
And what better test than the Colts. Bring it on!!

I really don't know what to expect. What a weird preseason.

Shamboubou
09-03-2004, 02:58 PM
When did this become the F-ing Pats forum??? I think these people are starting to see the Aqua and Orange its about time you joined a real team.

FlyingElvis
09-03-2004, 03:52 PM
When did this become the F-ing Pats forum??? I think these people are starting to see the Aqua and Orange its about time you joined a real team.Hey, the thread is in "Beast of the AFC East". That would be the Pats, so looks like its in the right place. :D

BleedinGreenNC
09-03-2004, 07:26 PM
exactly, they didnt play a single starter last night

what the pats NEED to be worried about is a backup QB. They are doomed if Brady gets hurt, even for 1 game. Davey looked horrible and is probably the WORST backup in the NFL, maybe only Cory Sauter from Indy has him beat....

They have a questionable Oline but they would be better off with Jim Abbott as their backup QB.
I Have to agree 100%