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FIN-IN-RI
10-27-2004, 11:40 PM
Add thoughts, share praises!!!

SOX WIN First World Series Since 1918!!! That was when Bread was 8 cents a loaf!!

UP YOURS Babe Ruth!!! :roflmao:

8 Straight Wins!!!

We made history being down 0-3!!

What a YEAR!!!



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:clap:

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Jimmy James
10-27-2004, 11:53 PM
This is just so damn sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If there are any Cubs fans out there, I quite seriously feel for you guys. Maybe you'll finally break through soon...as soon as we get tired of winning them in 5 or 10 years. ;)

go_fins
10-27-2004, 11:57 PM
congrats Sox Fans. I'm a Marlins fan, but I root for the Red Sox. YANKEES SUCK!

Vol&dolfan
10-28-2004, 12:25 AM
grats to the sox

Deez Nutz
10-28-2004, 03:47 AM
I'm partially happy that the Red Sox won, but I'm mostly a little upset, becuase I'm a Marlins fan and I don't want John Henry to win anything. But there's nothing I can do about it, so I guess I'm happy that I'm alive to see the Red Sox break the curse.

nyjunc
10-28-2004, 05:36 AM
Congrats Sox fans! I knew this day had to happen sometime, much like the Rangers winning the Stanley Cup. Hopefully the Sox follow a simialr path as the Rangers post 1994 Championship. By the way, it's a cool -20 degrees down in hell today :D

Let's hope there are no deaths during the fans celebrations like there was for the pats and after the ALCS.

inFINSible
10-28-2004, 06:47 AM
:boohoo:

If it wasn't for those annoying little losses to the skanks, we swept all three series!!! :eek:

3 in a row against the halos.....4 in a row against the yanks and cards.....

This was one of the greatest teams ever!!

nyjunc
10-28-2004, 06:57 AM
:boohoo:

If it wasn't for those annoying little losses to the skanks, we swept all three series!!! :eek:

3 in a row against the halos.....4 in a row against the yanks and cards.....

This was one of the greatest teams ever!!

yeah, had you not lost 3 games then you would have swept the postseason and had we not lost 61 games in the reg season we would have been went 162-0 :shakeno:

FinsNYanksFan13
10-28-2004, 07:32 AM
F*ck Boston!!

inFINSible
10-28-2004, 08:18 AM
F*ck Boston!!
No....F**k You!!! :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

inFINSible
10-28-2004, 08:19 AM
yeah, had you not lost 3 games then you would have swept the postseason and had we not lost 61 games in the reg season we would have been went 162-0 :shakeno:You get the point, loser!!! :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

FinsNYanksFan13
10-28-2004, 09:06 AM
infinsible, Boston has finally won. Now you (and all the other pathetic Boston fans) can get over your mid life crisis!

Jimmy James
10-28-2004, 10:51 AM
infinsible, Boston has finally won. Now you (and all the other pathetic Boston fans) can get over your mid life crisis!

Unlike us, you're doomed to a lifetime of being a New York Yankees fan. We understand the resentment you must feel.

When does the great pitching buy begin? :rolleyes2

FIN-IN-RI
10-28-2004, 12:41 PM
FinsNyYanks = B1tch & LOSER.. in all phases of life.. Sucks to be you.

FIN-IN-RI
10-28-2004, 12:45 PM
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AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH :roflmao:

Anton
10-28-2004, 01:15 PM
If FinsNYanks is a loser in life on the basis that he is a Yankees fan, what would that make you (a Red Sox fan)?

FinsNYanksFan13
10-28-2004, 01:33 PM
Gotta laugh when someone says i'm a loser in life over the internet. I'll just stick with my story while you go with yours..................RED SOX STILL SUCK. and if i'm such a b*tch, why do I always make trips up to Boston when the Yanks play the Sox and win or lose I am always the one shutting Red Sox fans up. Come to the bleachers in the Bronx R.I fan, I challenge u. I'll go to a Red Sox game with u at fenway, u do the same in the Bronx with me and we'll see who's holding what down.................b*tch!!

FIN-IN-RI
10-28-2004, 01:57 PM
Exhibit A:


I challenge u. I'll go to a Red Sox game with u at fenway, u do the same in the Bronx with me and we'll see who's holding what down.................b*tch!!


You are a loser.

FIN-IN-RI
10-28-2004, 01:58 PM
If FinsNYanks is a loser in life on the basis that he is a Yankees fan, what would that make you (a Red Sox fan)?


Um, no. My brother is a stankee fan, is he a loser? No.

FIN-IN-RI
10-28-2004, 02:05 PM
RED SOX STILL SUCK.


2004 WORLD C.H.A.M.P.I.O.N.S

nephinsfan
10-28-2004, 08:46 PM
F*ck Boston!!

someone is bitter!:roflmao:

Martel
10-28-2004, 09:17 PM
Gotta laugh when someone says i'm a loser in life over the internet. I'll just stick with my story while you go with yours..................RED SOX STILL SUCK. and if i'm such a b*tch, why do I always make trips up to Boston when the Yanks play the Sox and win or lose I am always the one shutting Red Sox fans up. Come to the bleachers in the Bronx R.I fan, I challenge u. I'll go to a Red Sox game with u at fenway, u do the same in the Bronx with me and we'll see who's holding what down.................b*tch!!

Come on dude. Don't be a sore loser. You're making yourself look real dumb in this thread. Your the one who chimed in. Just tip your cap and admit that for 2004.....THE RED SOX ARE YOUR DADDY!

FIN-IN-RI
10-28-2004, 10:02 PM
Come on dude. Don't be a sore loser. You're making yourself look real dumb in this thread. Your the one who chimed in. Just tip your cap and admit that for 2004.....THE RED SOX ARE YOUR DADDY!


Good look, Martel.

FinsNYanksFan13
10-28-2004, 10:19 PM
The Red Sox wish they were the Yankees. Only need 20 more rings to catch up guys!

FIN-IN-RI
10-28-2004, 11:17 PM
The Red Sox wish they were the Stankees. Only need 20 more rings to catch up guys!

YEA! OK! Time for Prozac buddy! :lol:


You actually think the number of titles the stankees have means anything to the Red Sox and their fans? You are really reaching, I feel bad for you. Wait, no I don't. Sucks to be you. Oh Well.

nyjunc
10-29-2004, 05:40 AM
YEA! OK! Time for Prozac buddy! :lol:


You actually think the number of titles the stankees have means anything to the Red Sox and their fans? You are really reaching, I feel bad for you. Wait, no I don't. Sucks to be you. Oh Well.

EVERY team and their fans wishes they had the success of the Yankees. Are you telling me you would rather have lost for 86 years and win 1 title than win 26 Championships in that span? Come on, you can't expect anybody to believe that. It was great what Boston did, enjoy this b/c you don't know how long it will be until the next one. Don't start comparing yourself to the Yankees b/c it's an argumetn you can't ein. I tip my hat to the Sox, they were better this year when it counted but I'd much rather see my team's rival win 1 Title in 86 years than 26 in 80 or so.

inFINSible
10-29-2004, 06:51 AM
EVERY team and their fans wishes they had the success of the Yankees. Are you telling me you would rather have lost for 86 years and win 1 title than win 26 Championships in that span? Come on, you can't expect anybody to believe that. It was great what Boston did, enjoy this b/c you don't know how long it will be until the next one. Don't start comparing yourself to the Yankees b/c it's an argumetn you can't ein. I tip my hat to the Sox, they were better this year when it counted but I'd much rather see my team's rival win 1 Title in 86 years than 26 in 80 or so.
Yeah....well guess what....The Yankees NEVER came back from a three game deficit to win a series....They NEVER won 8 in a row to finish the post season....They never swept two different series in one post season.....and they never dominated the World Series.....Like The Boston Red Sox of 2004!!

The Yankee Killers!!

Oh yeah.....titles won in the 21st century....Red Sox 1.......yanks.....0...... :roflmao:

nyjunc
10-29-2004, 07:08 AM
The Yankees NEVER came back from a three game deficit to win a series

true


They NEVER won 8 in a row to finish the post season

True but we did win 7 in a row in '98 and won 11 straight postseason games from '98 to '99.


They never swept two different series in one post season

Incorrect. We did it TWICE. In '98 we swept tex in the ALDS and SD in the WS and in '99 we swept Tex in the ALDS and Atl in the WS.


and they never dominated the World Series.....Like The Boston Red Sox of 2004!!

I won't bother to look up the old years where I'm sure we dominated many a Series since we won so much but in recent times We swept the Pads in '98 and Braves in '99 plus we won a RECORD 14 consecutive WS games from '96-'00. I'd say that's domination plus in '98 we went 11-2 in the postseason and in '99 we went 11-1 in the postseason which were the 2 most dominant postseasons in history.

While 2000 may not technically be part of the 21st Century it is accepted that it is. It's like 1990 is technically part of the '80s but no one accepts that. Nice try though, hey only 20 more and you'll tie us.

I can understand the Sox fans bein overly excited and they deserve to be so but don't start comparing your ONE title in 86 years to our 26 or your ONE title in the past 8 years to our 4. It's just silly, you have a LONG way to go before you can get in the conversation w/ the Yankees.

Jimmy James
10-29-2004, 07:22 AM
While 2000 may not technically be part of the 21st Century it is accepted that it is. It's like 1990 is technically part of the '80s but no one accepts that. Nice try though, hey only 20 more and you'll tie us.

Your analogy is just flat out wrong. The 21st Century starts with 2001 because that is what is required for it to actually be the 21st Century. The 80s starts with 1980 because that's how it is described. If we were talking about the 208th Decade, that would run from 1981-1990, and if we were talking about the 2000s, that would start in 2000...

nyjunc
10-29-2004, 08:08 AM
Your analogy is just flat out wrong. The 21st Century starts with 2001 because that is what is required for it to actually be the 21st Century. The 80s starts with 1980 because that's how it is described. If we were talking about the 208th Decade, that would run from 1981-1990, and if we were talking about the 2000s, that would start in 2000...

Everyone acknowledges that 2000 started the new Millenium even though technically it did not. A decade is definied by 10 years and doesn't technically start until the 1st year(such as '91 in the 90s) so technically 1990 is apart of the decade of the 80s. It's all meaningless, ti's not like we won a WS 90 years ago, it was only 4 years ago and if that's what Sox fans need to hold on to to think they are in our class then go ahead and kid yourselves.

inFINSible
10-29-2004, 08:20 AM
Everyone acknowledges that 2000 started the new Millenium even though technically it did not. A decade is definied by 10 years and doesn't technically start until the 1st year(such as '91 in the 90s) so technically 1990 is apart of the decade of the 80s. It's all meaningless, ti's not like we won a WS 90 years ago, it was only 4 years ago and if that's what Sox fans need to hold on to to think they are in our class then go ahead and kid yourselves.The Sox OWN the years between '01 -'18!!! Check the history baby!! 6 titles in that span!! Get ready to eat dust!!

nyjunc
10-29-2004, 08:35 AM
The Sox OWN the years between '01 -'18!!! Check the history baby!! 6 titles in that span!! Get ready to eat dust!!

That's a good one, I like that line :lol:

inFINSible
10-29-2004, 08:39 AM
That's a good one, I like that line :lol:
:goof: :D :cooldude:

FIN-IN-RI
10-29-2004, 10:14 AM
EVERY team and their fans wishes they had the success of the Yankees. Are you telling me you would rather have lost for 86 years and win 1 title than win 26 Championships in that span? Come on, you can't expect anybody to believe that. It was great what Boston did, enjoy this b/c you don't know how long it will be until the next one. Don't start comparing yourself to the Yankees b/c it's an argumetn you can't ein. I tip my hat to the Sox, they were better this year when it counted but I'd much rather see my team's rival win 1 Title in 86 years than 26 in 80 or so.
Dude, I'm happy with what we got. I don't care about what the skanks have done over the years and If I "wished my team had success like the Skankees" -
I WOULD HAVE BEEN A SKANKEE FAN.

So dont come at me with its an "argument I cant win" cause I just won.

nyjunc
10-29-2004, 10:18 AM
Dude, I'm happy with what we got. I don't care about what the skanks have done over the years and If I "wished my team had success like the Skankees" -
I WOULD HAVE BEEN A SKANKEE FAN.

So dont come at me with its an "argument I cant win" cause I just won.

You should b happy w/ your 1 title in 86 years, it took a long time to get and who knows if you see another one. That's my point, you guys seem to think that yankee fans are on suicide watch b/c the Sox won(we don't care nearly as much about you guys as you do about us) and now you have this 1 title over us. It sucks that you guys won but 26 Championships will make a fan secure and your bargging rights are only temporary. Enjoy the win and stop worrying about the greatest franchise in the history of sports.

Jimmy James
10-29-2004, 10:26 AM
The fact that you're still posting makes it pretty clear that you care about the Red Sox, man. If you want to make your point, then SHUT IT.

FIN-IN-RI
10-29-2004, 10:41 AM
You should b happy w/ your 1 title in 86 years, it took a long time to get and who knows if you see another one. That's my point, you guys seem to think that yankee fans are on suicide watch b/c the Sox won(we don't care nearly as much about you guys as you do about us) and now you have this 1 title over us. It sucks that you guys won but 26 Championships will make a fan secure and your bargging rights are only temporary. Enjoy the win and stop worrying about the greatest franchise in the history of sports.Whatever makes you sleep at night. Fact is I dont care about the skankees and their "past" dominance. I care about now and the future. Maybe you can argue your BS with other Sox fans but not me. Fact is since the skanks broke the 100 million payroll they havent done spit since. The Red Sox have real owners now, real owners with deep pockets who aren't afraid to break the bank for a star that's actually "worth" it. Fact is I've been a fan for about 15 years and thats not that long of a time to wait for a World Series title! You're the one that's worrying, not me.

nyjunc
10-29-2004, 11:50 AM
The fact that you're still posting makes it pretty clear that you care about the Red Sox, man. If you want to make your point, then SHUT IT.

Actually all I did was congratulate you guys then it turned into a Yankee-Sox argument.

Last I checked yankee fans never started chanting "red Sox Suck" moments after we won the WS like the Sox fans chanted "Yankees Sucks" or whatver they chant. last I checked at parades for the Giants & rangers no one started chanting "Yankees Suck" like fans did at the patriots parade. Boston is infatuated w/ NY w/ this intense jealousy and if you don't believe it then you don't live anywhere near Boston. I was fine just congratulating you guys and all Sox fans but you guys turn it into a "Sox are better than the Yankees" argument which isn't true, isn't anywhere near true overall.

Gator Mike
10-29-2004, 01:28 PM
Gotta laugh when someone says i'm a loser in life over the internet.

and if i'm such a b*tch, why do I always make trips up to Boston when the Yanks play the Sox and win or lose I am always the one shutting Red Sox fans up. Come to the bleachers in the Bronx R.I fan, I challenge u. I'll go to a Red Sox game with u at fenway, u do the same in the Bronx with me and we'll see who's holding what down.................b*tch!!
I love irony... it's so ironic.


While 2000 may not technically be part of the 21st Century it is accepted that it is. It's like 1990 is technically part of the '80s but no one accepts that.
Dude, only people who don't stop to think end up accepting the notion that 2000 is part of the 21st Century.


Don't start comparing yourself to the Yankees b/c it's an argumetn you can't ein.
The Red Sox fans in this thread didn't start comparing themselves to the Yankees... a Yankee fan compared their team's past successes to those of the Red Sox, presumably in an attempt to make himself feel better about this year.

You guys started it. No Red Sox fan would even begin to argue that the Red Sox have been as successful as the Yankees.


You should b happy w/ your 1 title in 86 years, it took a long time to get and who knows if you see another one.
Who knows if Yankee fans will see another one?


That's my point, you guys seem to think that yankee fans are on suicide watch b/c the Sox won
Who ever said that? This clearly bothers Yankee fans, or they wouldn't be bringing up crap like "Oh, yeah - we've still got 26 rings, and you've only got 6," or "Now you're just another team".


I was fine just congratulating you guys and all Sox fans but you guys turn it into a "Sox are better than the Yankees" argument which isn't true, isn't anywhere near true overall.
Two points.

1. Red Sox fans did NOT turn this into a "Sox vs. Yankees" thing. A Yankee fan did, when he pointed out that his team had 26 rings compared to the Red Sox' 6.

2. The Red Sox ARE better than the Yankees. At least this year. You're simply imagining that Red Sox fans are saying things they're not saying. Who would ever argue that the Red Sox have had more success in the past than the Yankees -- you'd have to be an idiot.

nyjunc
10-29-2004, 02:26 PM
Dude, only people who don't stop to think end up accepting the notion that 2000 is part of the 21st Century.

It is accepted that the new Millenium started in 2000, we know technically that isn't true but it is accepted that it is.


The Red Sox fans in this thread didn't start comparing themselves to the Yankees

Actually a Sox fan made a comment and the another Sox fan posted a choking picture.


Who knows if Yankee fans will see another one?

I'm pretty confident that the greatest franchise in the history of sports will find a way to win another Championship. it may not be next year or 5 years from now but I think it will happen again- that's a safe bet.


Who ever said that? This clearly bothers Yankee fans, or they wouldn't be bringing up crap like "Oh, yeah - we've still got 26 rings, and you've only got 6," or "Now you're just another team".

Obviously Yankee fans aren't happy w/ the way things turned out but we aren't obsessed w/ the Sox the way Sox fans are w/ the Yankees. Having 26 Titles to fall back on and 4 in the last 8 years makes it easier to deal w/ this.

FIN-IN-RI
10-29-2004, 02:31 PM
Actually a Sox fan made a comment and the another Sox fan posted a choking picture.




don't be a clown.. i posted the skankee choking becuase of what finsnstanks fan said first.. i wasn't gonna mention anything about the stanks and their sucky season until other ppl started it. Your a chump tryin to twist **** around like that.

Gator Mike
10-29-2004, 02:47 PM
It is accepted that the new Millenium started in 2000, we know technically that isn't true but it is accepted that it is.
The only people who "accept" this are morons.


Actually a Sox fan made a comment and the another Sox fan posted a choking picture.
Post #9 -- FinsNYanksFan13 (http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/member.php?u=4603) vbmenu_register("postmenu_742859", true); says, "F*ck Boston!!" This is the first real inflamatory remark of the thread from either a Red Sox or Yankees fan.

This is what started things between the Red Sox and Yankees fans on this thread.


I'm pretty confident that the greatest franchise in the history of sports will find a way to win another Championship.
And 13 days ago, I'm sure you were pretty confident that the greatest franchise in the history of sports would finish off the Red Sox fairly easily, based largely on history.

But the fact of the matter is that as of this moment, the Red Sox and Yankees are on roughly equal footing. Heading into the future, I think it's reasonable to suggest that they have roughly the same chances of being successful.


Obviously Yankee fans aren't happy w/ the way things turned out but we aren't obsessed w/ the Sox the way Sox fans are w/ the Yankees.
Judging by the response from Yankee fans the last week or so, I'm not sure this is the case any more.

nyjunc
10-29-2004, 03:36 PM
And 13 days ago, I'm sure you were pretty confident that the greatest franchise in the history of sports would finish off the Red Sox fairly easily, based largely on history.

I was still nervous(I always am until the last game is won) but nobody thought the Yanks would blow that series- not Sox fans, not Yank fans, NOBODY.


But the fact of the matter is that as of this moment, the Red Sox and Yankees are on roughly equal footing. Heading into the future, I think it's reasonable to suggest that they have roughly the same chances of being successful.

I agree BUT the Sox have alot of FAs so they will most likely not have the same team coming back. They'll lose some key guys while we'll add a big time pitcher or 2 and that should be enough to get back to the WS but we'll see. We have bee even for 2 seasons now and I expect the Sox to be good again but I'll reserve judgement until we see what they do w/ their key FAs.


Judging by the response from Yankee fans the last week or so, I'm not sure this is the case any more.

IF another NY team wins a Championship soon and we started chanting "Boston sucks" or if the yanks win again next year and 5 minutes after the final out we start chanting "Boston sucks" then I'll agree w/ you. To be honest w/ you I think this "rivalry" is way overblown. It was great in the mid-late 70s and has been great the past 2 years but outside of that it has been overblown. I started following the yanks as a kid in the 80s and nobody cared about the Sox, nobody cared baout the Sox really until these past 2 years. I never truly hated Boston teams(I dislike them but didn't despise them) until I went to a Jets-Pats game in Foxboro in 2000. The fans there were so jealous of NY it was sickening, they didn;'t pay attention to that game for a minute. All they did was chant "NY sucks, Yankees suck, Jets suck, Mets suck,...", that's when I began to hate them. I even went to a Yankee-Red Sox game at fenway in 1998 and didn't feel the hate. The rivalry is overblown and will fade back unless the Sox can keep this up.

Jimmy James
10-29-2004, 04:54 PM
Don't go acting like the rivalry was bad in the late 80s because the Red Sox sucked -- it was the Yankees who weren't holding up their end of the bargain. Let's look at just who won the East those years...

1986: Boston 1st, New York 2nd
1987: Boston 5th, New York 4th
1988: Boston 1st, New York 5th
1989: Boston 3rd, New York 5th

nyjunc
10-29-2004, 05:05 PM
Don't go acting like the rivalry was bad in the late 80s because the Red Sox sucked -- it was the Yankees who weren't holding up their end of the bargain. Let's look at just who won the East those years...

1986: Boston 1st, New York 2nd
1987: Boston 5th, New York 4th
1988: Boston 1st, New York 5th
1989: Boston 3rd, New York 5th

I didn't say it wasn't great b/c the Sox sucked, when I grew up the Sox were better than the Yankees but it wasn't a great rivalry then and for most of history it has not been a great rivalry. It is right now but outside of these 2 years and the mid-lates 70s it's not much of a rivalry. Think about the moments, what moments from this rivalry are stuck in people's heads?

-Bucky Dent
-the brawl in the 70s
-'99 ALCS
-'03 & '04 pennant races and ALCS

That's it, there are other events but they had little to do w/ head to head.

-Yanks getting Babe
-Dimaggio's 56 vs. Williams' .406
-Righetti's no hitter

That's about it. It has not been a great rivalry throughout history.

Peebs
10-30-2004, 03:06 AM
IF another NY team wins a Championship soon and we started chanting "Boston sucks"

I can honestly say...
If the Mets win the WS no Mets fan will be chanting "Boston Sucks" at the victory parade. We didn't even do that in 86. BUT I'm sure at the next parade there will be a "Yankees suck" chant. It was pretty loud when the LOWLY NY Mets swept the mighty might Yankmees at Shea this season. :lol: (who said once in a while the sun shines on a dogs ***?)

I would bet that if the Yankmees ever win another one (though the last 4 years proves money can't buy happiness) moronic Yankmee fans would certainly start chanting "Boston sucks" at their parade down Broadway.

Peebs
10-30-2004, 03:12 AM
Got this off another site:

Here's the Yankmees gozillion dollar man who can't hit with RISP.

nyjunc
10-30-2004, 08:30 AM
I can honestly say...
If the Mets win the WS no Mets fan will be chanting "Boston Sucks" at the victory parade. We didn't even do that in 86. BUT I'm sure at the next parade there will be a "Yankees suck" chant. It was pretty loud when the LOWLY NY Mets swept the mighty might Yankmees at Shea this season. :lol: (who said once in a while the sun shines on a dogs ***?)

I would bet that if the Yankmees ever win another one (though the last 4 years proves money can't buy happiness) moronic Yankmee fans would certainly start chanting "Boston sucks" at their parade down Broadway.


I'm positive we won't be seeing a parade for the Mets anytime soon and when the yanks win their next one(probably next year) I doubt we'll hear "Boston Sucks" it will just get life back to normal and make the Sox insignificant to us(much like the Mets are insignificant to us)

By the way congrats on that HUGE reg season 3 game sweep of us, that was a great job by the Mets and it really propelled them to win that big 3 game set w/ Montreal in September to assure them they wouldn't finish in last.

nyjunc
10-30-2004, 08:30 AM
Got this off another site:

Here's the Yankmees gozillion dollar man who can't hit with RISP.

The whole lineup went into a slump those last 4 games but he was the best player in the playoffs up until game 4 of the ALCS.

Peebs
10-30-2004, 10:14 AM
I'm positive we won't be seeing a parade for the Mets anytime soon and when the yanks win their next one(probably next year) I doubt we'll hear "Boston Sucks" it will just get life back to normal and make the Sox insignificant to us(much like the Mets are insignificant to us)

Really? And what EXACTLY have the Yankmees won in the LAST 4 years? Nothing. No parades. No rings. Nada. Zilch. Zero. Highest payroll in MLB. Bridesmaids not Brides.
And what EXACTLY makes you think next season will be any different? Randy Johnson didn't want to come to George's hellhole in the Bronx niether did Schilling. so what EXACTLY makes you think that every player is dying to wear pinstripes? Here's a clue....they don't.

Pitching wins ballgames. Yankmees have none.

As for the Mets we have something the Yankmees don't....a FARM SYSTEM. The Yankmees have absolutely NOTHING left in the farm system and if you remember correctly it was the "up and coming" homegrowns that won previous WS. Not the "Big ticket stars" Georgie buys.
Pay-Rod came from Texas with the reputation of the lowest average with RISP. This was nothing new. It was also NOT systemic to just the playoffs-it's HIM. So what good is paying someone the highest paycheck in Baseball if he is not capable to bring a man in from second base?


I doubt we'll hear "Boston Sucks" it will just get life back to normal and make the Sox insignificant to us(much like the Mets are insignificant to us)
Again...if the Sox were so insignificant to the Yankmee fans then any Yankmee fan on this site would have congratulated the sox and left it at that.
But ya all didn't.
AND have you ever attended the Mets/Yankmee series at either Stadium? If the mets were soooo insignificant to Yankmee fans or vise versa there wouldn't BE such a Police presence in and around the stadium. Fights breakout in Shea stadium more during that series than a Islanders/Rangers game. And always the person being lead out by the cops is wearing a pinstripe jersey. ALWAYS. I attend at least ONE of the games of the three game set (usually the Saturday game but I was at the sunday ESPN game back in 2001 when Mike Piazza hit the HR to win) and I have to deal with the most OBNOXIOUS, ARROGANT and the least baseball knowledgable fans in all of MLB. They come off as a bunch of neanderthals totally disrespecting the Stadium they are guests in and then always slinking out because of all their "talk", their team LOST anyway.
So you want to know why Mets fans hate the Yankmees so much? It has nothing to do with what they've won, it has nothing to do with "2000", it doesn't even have to do with Clemens trying to kill Piazza..it has to do with the attitude of their FANS.

Btw...classy move by Clemens. Real Yankmee tradition. Retire, take the keys to a Hummer then...oops na I wanna play again for HOUSTON. :lol:

TerryTate
10-30-2004, 10:54 AM
Peebs, I was wondering where you've been....

I missed your wonderful anti-skankee posts :)

nyjunc
10-30-2004, 12:59 PM
Really? And what EXACTLY have the Yankmees won in the LAST 4 years? Nothing. No parades. No rings. Nada. Zilch. Zero. Highest payroll in MLB. Bridesmaids not Brides.

We haven't won much unless you consider 2 trips to the WS nothing which any Mets fan would kill for. We have been close in 3 of the past 4 years so the odds are we ahve a pretty good chance to break through. it may not happen but I wouldn't bet against it and there's at least a chance which you cannot say about the boys in Flushing. By the way, what have the Mets won in the past 18 seasons?


Randy Johnson didn't want to come to George's hellhole in the Bronx niether did Schilling.

They BOTH would have come here had we made the deasl to get them but we didn't. Johnson definitely wanted to be dealt at the deadline.


Pitching wins ballgames. Yankmees have none.

really? Actually our bats going cold is what did us in the ALCS and not the pitching. We had 2 poorly pitched games(both started by Brown and we won 1 of them) in the postseason so we pitched ok plus our best pitcher was hurt and couldn't pitch but 1 game. We'll get some pitching help this offseason and we'll be in good position to reclaim our throne.


As for the Mets we have something the Yankmees don't....a FARM SYSTEM

We always hear about how great these playrs the Mets develop are but we neevr see the results. I'd wait until these guys actually produce before you start crowing.


The Yankmees have absolutely NOTHING left in the farm system and if you remember correctly it was the "up and coming" homegrowns that won previous WS.

We have some very good prospects but they are down in the lower levels of the minors so they won't be ready for a few years which is ok b/c we won't need them for a while.


Pay-Rod came from Texas with the reputation of the lowest average with RISP. This was nothing new. It was also NOT systemic to just the playoffs-it's HIM. So what good is paying someone the highest paycheck in Baseball if he is not capable to bring a man in from second base?

he was the best player in the AL playoffs until Game 4, the bats went cold and that happens sometimes.


Fights breakout in Shea stadium more during that series than a Islanders/Rangers game

I don't know where you sit but i've been to many yanks-Mets games and rarely see any fights and if there are fights it's b/c much like Sox fans Mets fans have an inferiority complex towards the Yanks.


So you want to know why Mets fans hate the Yankmees so much? It has nothing to do with what they've won, it has nothing to do with "2000", it doesn't even have to do with Clemens trying to kill Piazza..it has to do with the attitude of their FANS.

The Met fans are all class :rolleyes: Let's ask John Rocker about that one. It has EVERYTHING to do w/ the fact that we are an elite franchise and you guys are bottom feeders.


Peebs, I was wondering where you've been....

I missed your wonderful anti-skankee posts

He's just a jealous Met fan. His team always stinks so he takes pleasure in seeing the Yanks lose. A sad existence for a fan but that's all Met fans have to hold on to so I don't blame him.

Prime Time
10-30-2004, 06:01 PM
Okay people, especially you Yankee fans... calm down...just face facts...

Boston are the Champs...:D

Peebs
10-30-2004, 06:18 PM
We haven't won much unless you consider 2 trips to the WS nothing which any Mets fan would kill for. We have been close in 3 of the past 4 years
Being Bridesmaids? No thank you.
And "almost" only counts in horseshoes and bocce.

Sorry, you lost round 1.


They BOTH would have come here had we made the deasl to get them but we didn't. Johnson definitely wanted to be dealt at the deadline

Really? Schilling would have gone to the Bronx. Maybe you outta troll the Red Sox board he regularly posts on (YES players DO post on fan boards, Todd Pratt was a regular over at the old Mets.com) do a search on his posts and READ what he posted after signing with Boston.
No, he did not want to be a Yankmee.
And if I can search later I can find where Randy Johnson had said the only way he wanted to be traded to a contending team was that the Diamondbacks were to get compensated with young talent something the Yankmees lack, terribly.

Judges may we have a call?


really? Actually our bats going cold is what did us in the ALCS and not the pitching. We had 2 poorly pitched games(both started by Brown and we won 1 of them) in the postseason so we pitched ok plus our best pitcher was hurt and couldn't pitch but 1 game. We'll get some pitching help this offseason and we'll be in good position to reclaim our throne.

Sorry, that paragraph I just have to :roflmao: at.
What did I say about Yankmee fans and baseball knowledge? What was the TEAMS ERA in the playoffs? MLB Site doesn't have totals but Brown had a 21.60 ERA in the LCS-Mussina 4.26, Gordon 8.10, Vasquez 9.95, Quantrill 5.40....you don't win with pitching like that. Just as in Football you can't win with crappy offense. Hellllooooooo.



We have some very good prospects but they are down in the lower levels of the minors so they won't be ready for a few years which is ok b/c we won't need them for a while.

Name one.


he was the best player in the AL playoffs until Game 4, the bats went cold and that happens sometimes.

Not to "gamers" and not in BIG games. Sorry.....
What about the rest of the season. Show me his average with RISP.

A-Rod=loser. OVERPAID loser.
OH let's not forget that wonderful acquisition of Jason Giambi :lol: Yea he lead you to WS victory...



I don't know where you sit but i've been to many yanks-Mets games and rarely see any fights and if there are fights it's b/c much like Sox fans Mets fans have an inferiority complex towards the Yanks.

I've sat-upper level box 2001 where I saw 2 fights breakout with one sending a cop down the stairs (Yankmee fans lead out that game...) Mike Piazza hit the game winning HR in the 8th. 2002-loge reserved first base side. Saw a fight break out in the isle in front of us. AGAIN pinstiped wearing neanderthal lead out of the stadium. 2003 Mezz reserved behind home plate, first time rained out, second time don't remember a fight but remember some uneducated "Jeter-ette" counting outloud after back-to-back HR's "that's one..." "that's two.." my friend turned to me and made a bet that if they hit another one she couldn't count to three. :lol: ..they didn't and the Mets won the game. I BELIEVE that was the "Clemens game" where even Shaun Estes hit a HR off him. 2004 July 3rd loge reserved-the three Yankmee fans in front of me declared the "game over" in the 5th inning when the Yankmees were ahead by 2 runs...yea well I guess the pinheads forgot there are 9 innings in a baseball game :rolleyes: Mets won and the loudmouths got really quiet and tried to slither out of the section.....

So no inferiority complex....Yankmee fans do not have manners. Plain and simple. You go to another teams ballpark you root for your team but show the "host" team and their fans RESPECT. I've saw better manners from BRAVES fans that come to Shea.



The Met fans are all class Let's ask John Rocker about that one. It has EVERYTHING to do w/ the fact that we are an elite franchise and you guys are bottom feeders

OMG that one deserves a :roflmao: and another :roflmao:
elite? Yea hiring/firing/hiring/firing Billy Martin was really classy. It made a mockery of Baseball. OR how about the tale of Fritz Peterson and Mike Kekich switching wives in 72...real classy...OH let's not forget Boomer Wells antics in the Diner incident OR Karim Garcia beating up a grounds keeper....
Shall I go on with the "elite" franchise?


We always hear about how great these playrs the Mets develop are but we neevr see the results. I'd wait until these guys actually produce before you start crowing.
Jose Reyes. Valent. David Wright.
Remember those names.
Wanna see stats?


He's just a jealous Met fan. His team always stinks so he takes pleasure in seeing the Yanks lose. A sad existence for a fan but that's all Met fans have to hold on to so I don't blame him.

HE is a mutha!@#$ing SHE for the millionth time. I believe I corrected the other Yankmee fan back on page 2 when called "Dude". Reading in Fundamental.
And she has been a Mets fan since 1973 and Willie Mays retired in a Mets uniform. Back in the day I could care less about the Yankmees, even in the late 70's...80's couldn't care...not even during the "Mayor's cup" games. But currently the attitude and arrogance of the Yankmee fans is enough to make you puke.
You can't even admit when your team blows.
If I were a fan and my ticket prices keep rising every season to pay for the worthless talent on the field with nothing to show for it I'd be pissed.

But then again....your also a Jests fan on a Miami Dolphins board. Enough said.





Hi TT :wave: you know I'm always here to sing the gospel.

Peebs
10-30-2004, 06:23 PM
Okay people, especially you Yankee fans... calm down...just face facts...

Boston are the Champs...:D
I believe I did state the facts...

Here's another one:
check out the sign Manny borrowed from a fan

http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

Jimmy James
10-30-2004, 09:09 PM
I believe I did state the facts...

Here's another one:
check out the sign Manny borrowed from a fan

http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

That's an awesome sign. :drinkers:

Jimmy James
10-30-2004, 09:12 PM
Really? Schilling would have gone to the Bronx. Maybe you outta troll the Red Sox board he regularly posts on (YES players DO post on fan boards, Todd Pratt was a regular over at the old Mets.com) do a search on his posts and READ what he posted after signing with Boston.
No, he did not want to be a Yankmee.
And if I can search later I can find where Randy Johnson had said the only way he wanted to be traded to a contending team was that the Diamondbacks were to get compensated with young talent something the Yankmees lack, terribly.

Judges may we have a call?

Here's my call. You did so well here you get an :0wned:


Not to "gamers" and not in BIG games. Sorry.....

That's the perfect way to put it. The Yankees showed their true colors. They had 4 chances to put it away and missed every...single...time.


So no inferiority complex....Yankmee fans do not have manners. Plain and simple. You go to another teams ballpark you root for your team but show the "host" team and their fans RESPECT. I've saw better manners from BRAVES fans that come to Shea.

Ouch. I would never want to be called inferior to a *Braves* fan, the biggest bunch of bandwagoners you'll ever find.


But then again....your also a Jests fan on a Miami Dolphins board. Enough said.

Bingo.

Peebs
10-30-2004, 10:44 PM
That's the perfect way to put it. The Yankees showed their true colors. They had 4 chances to put it away and missed every...single...time.

Exactly.
Those who are hungry suck it up and put it out.
The Sox wanted it more.



ALSO it was real classy of "Capt. Jeter" to be RIPPING his teammates in the papers last week. He blamed the fact that his newer teammates aren't the '96-00 yankees. Never acknowledging that the NYYs who were here in those years (with the exception of Bernie) stunk in the postseason as well. What exactly was his performance? Just as sucky.

Jimmy James
10-30-2004, 11:21 PM
Jeter showed himself to be a punk when he didn't yield the SS position to the technically superior player if you ask me...

nyjunc
10-31-2004, 09:26 AM
Being Bridesmaids? No thank you.
And "almost" only counts in horseshoes and bocce.

Sorry, you lost round 1.


As a Mets fan you would kill to "lose" the way the yankees have the past few years.


Really? Schilling would have gone to the Bronx. Maybe you outta troll the Red Sox board he regularly posts on (YES players DO post on fan boards, Todd Pratt was a regular over at the old Mets.com) do a search on his posts and READ what he posted after signing with Boston.

Let me get this straight. Aftre being traded to the Red Sox you expected Curt Schilling to say he would have gone to the Yankees? I don't think we need judges this is a knockout.


What did I say about Yankmee fans and baseball knowledge? What was the TEAMS ERA in the playoffs? MLB Site doesn't have totals but Brown had a 21.60 ERA in the LCS-Mussina 4.26, Gordon 8.10, Vasquez 9.95, Quantrill 5.40....you don't win with pitching like that. Just as in Football you can't win with crappy offense. Hellllooooooo.

Apparently you didn't watch the postseason.

-ALDS Game 1 LOST 2-0, I'd say that was a well pitched game.

-ALDS Game 2 WIN 7-6 in extra innings, had great performance by Lieber but pen blew it.

-ALDS Game 3 WIN 8-4, very good perfromance by Brown

-ALDS Game 5 WIN 6-5, vasquez did ok but not horrible

-ALCS Game 1 WIN 10-7 but Moose threw 7 inning sof no hit ball and when the game was out of hand the Sox scored a bunch of runs.

-ALCS Gam 2 WIN 3-1, Liebre outstanding

-ALCS Game 3 WIN 19-8, awful job by Brown

-ALCS game 4 LOST 6-4 in EXTRAS, good pitching performance.

-ALCS Game 5 LOST 5-4 in EXTRAS, good pitching

-ALCS Game 6 LOST 4-2, good pitching

-ALCS Game 7 LOST 10-3 horrible performance by Brown.

Actually watch the gam before you bring out stats Mr. jealous Met fan.


Name one.

I'll give you a few and you go look them up:

C Dioner Navarro
3B Eric Duncan
CF Rudy Guillen
SP Ramon Ramirez
2B Robinson Cano
SP Danny Borrell


Not to "gamers" and not in BIG games. Sorry.....
What about the rest of the season. Show me his average with RISP.


-Down 0-1 to Minnesota and down inGame 2 he went 4 for 6 w/ a HR and 3 RBI including the game tying double in extra innings.

-Game 4, doubled in 11th then stole 3rd then scored on WP. he manufactured the series winning run on his own.

-In ALCS he was 2 for 5 in game 1, 1 for 4 in game 2, 3 for 5 3 RBI and a HR in game 3 then the bats went cold for the entire team.

By the way, in addition to his good hitting until game 4 he played great D as well.

Here are his postseason totals: .320, 5 doubles, 3 HRs, 8 RBI, 2 SB, 11 runs scored. Not bad.


OH let's not forget that wonderful acquisition of Jason Giambi Yea he lead you to WS victory...

I thought his signing was a mistake from the beginning but we all have overpaid stiffs. You have Piazza and we have Giambi.

I guess I sit in better seats than you b/c closer to the field I don't see many fights and I never noticed any action going on in the upper deck but I only pay attention to the game and not the bitter, jealous Met fans starting fights.


So no inferiority complex....Yankmee fans do not have manners. Plain and simple. You go to another teams ballpark you root for your team but show the "host" team and their fans RESPECT. I've saw better manners from BRAVES fans that come to Shea.

I've been to many road games including Yanks-Sox at Fenway and I've never had a problem and I openly root. There are idiot fans for every team and winning so much brings some obnoxious, bandwagon fans so it may seem like we have more but I guarantee you no one thought that when we were the worst team in the league in the early 90s. Maybe some day when you win you'll understand.


elite? Yea hiring/firing/hiring/firing Billy Martin was really classy. It made a mockery of Baseball. OR how about the tale of Fritz Peterson and Mike Kekich switching wives in 72...real classy...OH let's not forget Boomer Wells antics in the Diner incident OR Karim Garcia beating up a grounds keeper....

This wasn't about franchises it was about fans- nice attempt to twist. You act like Met fans are innocent but they threw batteries and other things at Rocker and have done it to other teams as well.

As for the Mets, I guess it was ok for Vince Coleman to throw a firecracker at a little girl or David Cone(he never acted up as a Yank) to expose himself to a female fan in the bullpen or Bret Saberhagen to spray BLEACH at reporters or Bonilla to threaten a reporter or Gooden to be so high that he missed the Mets WS parade. Shall I go on?


Jose Reyes. Valent. David Wright.
Remember those names.
Wanna see stats?


I didn't say they don't have prospects, I said get back to me when they produce in the Majors and I don't mean for half a season. Do you remember generation K, Gregg Jefferies, Kevin Elster, Rey Ordonez, Eric Hillman, David West, Butch Huskey, Jay Payton, ....

All highly touted prospects from the great Mets system that did nothing or ltitle w/ the Mets. remember when they were comparing Generation K to the Braves staff of '91 w/ Avery, Glavine & Smoltz? :lol:


HE is a mutha!@#$ing SHE for the millionth time. I believe I corrected the other Yankmee fan back on page 2 when called "Dude". Reading in Fundamental.

You are a Woman and you write the things you write? I am stunned.


If I were a fan and my ticket prices keep rising every season to pay for the worthless talent on the field with nothing to show for it I'd be pissed.

The Mets have problems, they do raise tickets prices and do nothing on the field but someday they'll when so don't give up just yet.


check out the sign Manny borrowed from a fan

Let Manny live it up but I'm sure he trade his 1 Title for Jeter's FOUR.



ALSO it was real classy of "Capt. Jeter" to be RIPPING his teammates in the papers last week. He blamed the fact that his newer teammates aren't the '96-00 yankees

he didn't blame anything on anyone, he was aksed how it feels for this team to lose after being able to win in situations like this for so man y years and he correctly pointed out that this current team had not won like those teams.


Jeter showed himself to be a punk when he didn't yield the SS position to the technically superior player if you ask me...

Jeter is the Captain of the greatest franchise in the history of sports and a future HOFer at SS, why should he move? But it was ok that Mike Piazza(long since a great player) refused to play 1B(even though they had a better C behind him defensively) until he broke his meaningless C HR record?

Peebs
10-31-2004, 09:49 AM
Babe you starting to bore me now. :boring:

You just proving the theory of all Yankmee fans being totally obnoxious.


But if I were you I would take this back:


You are a Woman and you write the things you write? I am stunned.

You have better meant it in a complimentary manner of me being a female sports fan who could probably knock any male sports fan on their collective a$$ with my knowledge of sports.

Or if you meant it disparaging......just remember I can "smack talk" with the best of them....

Jimmy James
10-31-2004, 11:09 AM
Let me get this straight. Aftre being traded to the Red Sox you expected Curt Schilling to say he would have gone to the Yankees? I don't think we need judges this is a knockout.

You don't have a clue about Schilling, do you? He agreed to waive his no trade clause (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2003/11/25/francona_hire_in_the_cards_and_sox_may_have_an_ace_up_their_sleeve_in_schilling/) to go to the Red Sox because they brought in Francona:


"Terry is a huge part of this, if Terry gets the job," said Schilling, the former Red Sox farmhand who is due to be paid $12 million next season in the last year of his contract and is expected to seek a three-year extension from the Sox, which could have repercussions for the team in its dealings with its own pitchers whose free agency is looming, Pedro Martinez and Derek Lowe

You might not want to make yourself come of as such a clueless idiot in the future...


As for the Mets, I guess it was ok for Vince Coleman to throw a firecracker at a little girl or David Cone(he never acted up as a Yank) to expose himself to a female fan in the bullpen or Bret Saberhagen to spray BLEACH at reporters or Bonilla to threaten a reporter or Gooden to be so high that he missed the Mets WS parade. Shall I go on?

It doesn't help your cause much when half of the bad actors you cite have played for the Yankees *after* their bad acts. The Mets could claim surprise at some of this stuff, but the Yankees knew what they were getting into and chose classless players anyway...


Jeter is the Captain of the greatest franchise in the history of sports and a future HOFer at SS, why should he move? But it was ok that Mike Piazza(long since a great player) refused to play 1B(even though they had a better C behind him defensively) until he broke his meaningless C HR record?

You certainly aren't so stupid that you don't know the difference between peebs and me, are you? I'm the one who brought up Jeter the punk, and I don't give a damn about the Mets. Frankly, I think Piazza is a jackass. It doesn't have anything to do with Jeter being any less of a punk, though. Jeter was a prima donna about the whole situation because he cared more about his ego than helping his team. Perhaps things would be different right now if he hadn't been such a crybaby.

nyjunc
10-31-2004, 03:28 PM
You just proving the theory of all Yankmee fans being totally obnoxious.

OK. You have proven my theory that all Met fans are jealous whiners.


You have better meant it in a complimentary manner of me being a female sports fan who could probably knock any male sports fan on their collective a$$ with my knowledge of sports.

I didn't mean as though you couldn't talk sports. I can tell you have knowledge but can tell how much yet b/c you are blinded by your hatred of the yansk. It happens to alot of folks as they become irrational when discussing the greatest franchise in the history of sports.

The reason I was surprised that you are a woman is b/c in my experience women usually aren't that irrational when it comes to sports. Your intense hatred for the Yanks clouds your judment a bit and you say some very classless things which I don't usually associate w/ women.


You don't have a clue about Schilling, do you? He agreed to waive his no trade clause to go to the Red Sox because they brought in Francona:

What does that have to do w/ whether or not he would have waived his no trade to become a Yankee? had the Yanks swung the deal he would have waived it to come here as well.


It doesn't help your cause much when half of the bad actors you cite have played for the Yankees *after* their bad acts. The Mets could claim surprise at some of this stuff, but the Yankees knew what they were getting into and chose classless players anyway...

Only Straw had problems here so what does that say about the Mets when most of them came here and were good citizens as well as good players?


Jeter was a prima donna about the whole situation because he cared more about his ego than helping his team. Perhaps things would be different right now if he hadn't been such a crybaby.

First off, who is your team? Next, when did jeter ever show he cared more about himself than the team? Jeter is a HOF SS in the prime of his career so why should he have moved? ARod is the better athlete and proved it by becoming a gold glove caliber 3B, I'm not sure Derek could do that so the situation was best for the team and Derek always does what's bst for the team.

Peebs
10-31-2004, 04:24 PM
Frankly, I think Piazza is a jackass.

Hey hey boo, I thought we were amigos here....campadres....what's up wit the hate? ;)
Tell me you wouldn't want Piazza as a DH for the Sox when he can no longer squat?


OK. You have proven my theory that all Met fans are jealous whiners.I didn't mean as though you couldn't talk sports. I can tell you have knowledge but can tell how much yet b/c you are blinded by your hatred of the yansk. It happens to alot of folks as they become irrational when discussing the greatest franchise in the history of sports.

The reason I was surprised that you are a woman is b/c in my experience women usually aren't that irrational when it comes to sports. Your intense hatred for the Yanks clouds your judment a bit and you say some very classless things which I don't usually associate w/ women.


now you really made yourself look like a total a$$.
:roflmao: :roflmao:
Btw...I don't think you have much experience with women. Period.

:roflmao: :roflmao:

Jimmy James
10-31-2004, 06:17 PM
What does that have to do w/ whether or not he would have waived his no trade to become a Yankee? had the Yanks swung the deal he would have waived it to come here as well.

Go ahead -- dig yourself in deeper. Francona was his beloved manager back during his days with the Phillies. He seriously wasn't considering going anywhere until that hire got made. Kurt isn't your typical jock, and you're just making yourself look ridiculous with your doubt.



Only Straw had problems here so what does that say about the Mets when most of them came here and were good citizens as well as good players?

It says most of them learned their lesson with the Mets, who let them all go as a result of their destructive behavior. The Mets are the good guys here as far as I'm concerned. I seem to recall a jackass by the name of Steve Howe who had bad enough drug problems that he got banned for life from baseball. Which team picked him up when no other would? The Yankees.


First off, who is your team?

Pay attention. I'm a Red Sox fan through and through. :rolleyes2


Next, when did jeter ever show he cared more about himself than the team? Jeter is a HOF SS in the prime of his career so why should he have moved? ARod is the better athlete and proved it by becoming a gold glove caliber 3B, I'm not sure Derek could do that so the situation was best for the team and Derek always does what's bst for the team.

You go on thinking that, Yankee man...

Jimmy James
10-31-2004, 06:21 PM
Hey hey boo, I thought we were amigos here....campadres....what's up wit the hate? ;)
Tell me you wouldn't want Piazza as a DH for the Sox when he can no longer squat?

Piazza isn't my style DH at all. I wouldn't be opposed if there were no better options, but I'm not asking for it.

Don't take my feelings about Piazza to suggest I hate your Mets. I do have a little grudge against them for the childhood trauma known as that World Series, but I certainly cheer for them against the likes of the Braves. :)

nyjunc
10-31-2004, 06:23 PM
now you really made yourself look like a total a$$.

Btw...I don't think you have much experience with women. Period.



:rolleyes:


Go ahead -- dig yourself in deeper. Francona was his beloved manager back during his days with the Phillies. He seriously wasn't considering going anywhere until that hire got made. Kurt isn't your typical jock, and you're just making yourself look ridiculous with your doubt.

AGAIN, what does that have to do w/ him potentially being traded tot he yanks and waiving his no trade. Are you saying he would ONLY waive his no trade to play for Francona? That is assanine.

it amazes me Schilling even decided to play in Arizona since he wasn't playing for Francona :rolleyes:

nyjunc
10-31-2004, 06:29 PM
Hopefully this will shut you up.

"According to a published report, Arizona Diamondbacks starter Curt Schilling said he is willing to accept a trade to two teams -- the New York Yankees or Philadelphia Phillies.

Interviewed by the Philadelphia Inquirer, Schilling, who has a no-trade clause, said the more likely scenario at this time would be a deal to the Yankees."

http://ps2.sportsline.com/mlb/story/6829434


What were you saying about someone looking ridiuclous? :lol:

Jimmy James
10-31-2004, 07:25 PM
I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong, and I was wrong. How much more pathetic does it make your Yankees look now that it's clear they lost out on him not because of his personal views but because your GM couldn't scrape together the necessary trade?

nyjunc
10-31-2004, 07:30 PM
I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong, and I was wrong. How much more pathetic does it make your Yankees look now that it's clear they lost out on him not because of his personal views but because your GM couldn't scrape together the necessary trade?

Actually the Yanks didn't get him mostly b/c of Jerry Colangelo the DBacks owner. He wanted Nick Johnson and Alfonso Soriano for Schilling while he settled for some prospects from the Sox. It's obvious he didn't want to deal him to NY and that's also one of the reasons we didn't get Randy Johnson at the deadline.

Jimmy James
10-31-2004, 07:33 PM
Right. Big bad Diamondbacks owner doesn't play well with Georgie and Brian... :lol: (and that's an :lol: no matter whether it's true or not)

nyjunc
10-31-2004, 07:37 PM
Right. Big bad Diamondbacks owner doesn't play well with Georgie and Brian... :lol: (and that's an :lol: no matter whether it's true or not)

Colangelo and george are enemies and it was heightened when Wells agreed to a handshake deal w/ Arizona in '02 then backed out and signed w/ the Yankees. I am very confident one of the 2 would have been Yankees last year had this feud not been going on.

Jimmy James
10-31-2004, 09:57 PM
Maybe that will teach George to quit being such a jackass and start playing well with the rest of the kids. :roflmao:

MikeO
11-01-2004, 01:35 AM
Right. Big bad Diamondbacks owner doesn't play well with Georgie and Brian... :lol: (and that's an :lol: no matter whether it's true or not)
He's no longer the owner of Arizona though. I believe he is almost out of the picture with that team.

Jimmy James
11-01-2004, 01:37 AM
I guess that makes this an invalid excuse should the Randy Johnson thing *still* not get done...

iDolFan
11-06-2004, 01:57 PM
LOL.....I just stumbled on this thread.


How can some of you Dolfans like the RedSox?

Jimmy James
11-06-2004, 02:00 PM
LOL.....I just stumbled on this thread.


How can some of you Dolfans like the RedSox?




There was no baseball in Florida when I chose my teams. I chose each team I root for the same way -- a love of the players. I loved watching Dan Marino play as much as I loved watching Roger Clemens play. That is why I'm a Dolphins and Red Sox fan.