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FinsNYanksFan13
10-30-2004, 07:50 PM
Heavyweight matchup tonight at 10 on TBS. A must watch!!

miamirw
10-30-2004, 08:02 PM
Yup. Got the VCR ready to go.

Incidentally, pop on the ESPN game right now and watch Marcus McNeil, LT for Auburn. He looks like a beast...

shankfoo
10-30-2004, 08:40 PM
ill be watching

NJFINSFAN1
10-30-2004, 09:23 PM
Does not matter, we won't draft a QB until at least the 3rd round!

LIQUID24
10-30-2004, 10:13 PM
Rodgers is light-years ahead of Walters (and he's way better than Orton too).

KB21
10-30-2004, 10:49 PM
Walters has a big league arm. His arm is much better than any of the other prospects. I like his size as well.

What I don't like about Rodgers is that you have to move him around for him to see the passing lanes, and the majority of the passes he is throwing are of the short variety. He's too short to be a top pick.

LIQUID24
10-30-2004, 10:57 PM
Walters has a big league arm. His arm is much better than any of the other prospects. I like his size as well.

It's just too bad his accuracy and decision making are questionable at best.

KB21
10-30-2004, 10:59 PM
I've seen nothing that would make me question his decision making ability, but I have seen a lot that makes me question his receivers. His best target is that freshman tight end that looks a lot like a young Todd Heap.

KB21
10-30-2004, 11:01 PM
I do like Rodgers's throwing motion. He's got an over the top release that is very quick. Good arm too. I just can't overlook his size right now.

miamirw
10-30-2004, 11:03 PM
Damn.

Who's that running back for Cal. Harrington? He's pretty damn good..

LIQUID24
10-30-2004, 11:16 PM
I've seen nothing that would make me question his decision making ability, but I have seen a lot that makes me question his receivers. His best target is that freshman tight end that looks a lot like a young Todd Heap.Most recently, I saw his 6 TD performance against UCLA (I'm Tivo'ing tonight's game). Honestly, I can't say I was all that impressed. He threw 3 INT's and misfired his passes many times. I believe he completed less than half his passes. He also threw into double coverage more than I would like to see. Some of that could be the lack of talent around him.

No question the kid has talent. Like you said, he has the size and arm you look for. But I just feel he is very raw and would be a 2-3 year project. At best, I think he's a late 1st round prospect at this point. That could change though.

LIQUID24
10-30-2004, 11:20 PM
I do like Rodgers's throwing motion. He's got an over the top release that is very quick. Good arm too. I just can't overlook his size right now.
That's his only knock IMO. But I don't think it's a deal breaker. He's listed at 6'2", which means he's about 6'1". But guys like Favre and McNabb are only 6'2", so I don't think a 1 inch difference is that big a deal.

KB21
10-30-2004, 11:32 PM
That's his only knock IMO. But I don't think it's a deal breaker. He's listed at 6'2", which means he's about 6'1". But guys like Favre and McNabb are only 6'2", so I don't think a 1 inch difference is that big a deal.

When I see him, I can't help but think of Jake Plummer. Aaron Rodgers has that type of build, and their styles are very similar. If you saw Rodgers last season, you would have seen a very erratic passer. He has improved his consistency this year, so you hope he will be more consistent than Plummer has been at the NFL level.

Any quarterback you draft is going to be a 2-3 project. It took Peyton Manning a full year to hit his stride. People forget that he threw 21 interceptions as a rookie. You simply don't find a Dan Marino or a Ben Roethlisberger that does well coming out of the gate.

Another thing I like about Rodgers is that he isn't one of those quarterbacks who will start scrambling around when he feels pressure. That's the true sign of a good quarterback, IMO. You have too many guys that people want to believe is a good prospect that will start running the minute they feel any pressure. If you are a quarterback, you have to have the mentality to stand in against that pressure and either make the pass or step up and make the pass.

KB21
10-30-2004, 11:35 PM
ASU has a guy named Thrower on their team. Why couldn't he have been a quarterback?

iceblizzard69
10-30-2004, 11:43 PM
Most recently, I saw his 6 TD performance against UCLA (I'm Tivo'ing tonight's game). Honestly, I can't say I was all that impressed. He threw 3 INT's and misfired his passes many times. I believe he completed less than half his passes. He also threw into double coverage more than I would like to see. Some of that could be the lack of talent around him.

No question the kid has talent. Like you said, he has the size and arm you look for. But I just feel he is very raw and would be a 2-3 year project. At best, I think he's a late 1st round prospect at this point. That could change though.

Walter is pretty experienced. He played a lot as a freshman and has started full time since his sophomore season. At this point, he isn't raw on the college level. He's got a big arm, but some of the things he does are questionable. He looks like a QB who can be on the same level as Kerry Collins, has a big arm but makes too many mistakes.

LIQUID24
10-30-2004, 11:46 PM
I can see the Plummer/Rodgers comparison from a physical standpoint (though Plummer is a little more athletic), but I think Rodgers is a much better decision maker. To be honest, I don't recall watching Rodgers last year, so he may have been erratic. I have seen him 4 times this year though, and I've come away very impressed. He has great touch on the short passes and has excellent zip on the deep out. On a side note, I love the way Jeff Tedford runs this team. I think he'd make an excellent Head Coach candidate. Do you think we'll even consider him? Or any will any NFL team for that matter?

KB21
10-30-2004, 11:47 PM
Walter is pretty experienced. He played a lot as a freshman and has started full time since his sophomore season. At this point, he isn't raw on the college level. He's got a big arm, but some of the things he does are questionable. He looks like a QB who can be on the same level as Kerry Collins, has a big arm but makes too many mistakes.

Good comparison. He's got the type of size and arm strength that Kerry Collins has.

KB21
10-30-2004, 11:49 PM
I can see the Plummer/Rodgers comparison from a physical standpoint (though Plummer is a little more athletic), but I think Rodgers is a much better decision maker. To be honest, I don't recall watching Rodgers last year, so he may have been erratic. I have seen 4 times this year though, and I've come away very impresses. He has great touch on the short passes and has excellent zip on the deep out. On side note, I love the way Jeff Tedford runs this team. I think he'd make an excellent Head Coach candidate. Do you think we'll even consider him? Or any will any NFL team for that matter?

Tedford has one thing going against him. He's never been a coach in the NFL. Now, he has coached in the CFL, but his entire career has been centered around the college game. He and Dirk Koetter at ASU are cut from the same cloth. Both are brilliant offensive tacticians and teachers of the quarterback position. I think Koetter may have a little NFL experience though, as I heard them mention him learning from Joe Gibbs and Dan Henning in Washington a while back.

LIQUID24
10-30-2004, 11:50 PM
Walter is pretty experienced. He played a lot as a freshman and has started full time since his sophomore season. At this point, he isn't raw on the college level. He's got a big arm, but some of the things he does are questionable. He looks like a QB who can be on the same level as Kerry Collins, has a big arm but makes too many mistakes.
Yep, he is experienced, it just doesnt show though (at least to me).

LIQUID24
10-31-2004, 12:15 AM
Walter just threw a pick-six. That's the kinda stuff I'm talking about. ;)