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minus
12-06-2004, 10:52 AM
Good bye Jay Fiedler,Freeman,Seau,Bowens, and

Surtain :cry:

eltos_lightfoot
12-06-2004, 04:09 PM
I would be ok with that, except Surtain!

WE NEEEEEED HIM!

Nublar7
12-06-2004, 11:53 PM
The Good News: Fiedler will be cut this offseason.

The Bad News: It won't be official until AFTER June 1st.

DonShula84
12-22-2004, 08:24 PM
I'm hoping we can work something out with Pat so he can remain a phin. This might be unrealistic, but I like the guy so Im hoping for a miracle.

Ferretsquig
12-22-2004, 09:07 PM
Good bye Jay Fiedler,Freeman,Seau,Bowens, and

Surtain :cry:
I dont get why Surtain, Freeman and Bowens are on all your lists for offseason departures. If Bowens wants to stay then why not let him? His salary is small for what he provides on the field.

Freeman has played well enough to stay on the team for at least another year. He wont get the 3 mil owed to him but will probably end up with a 1/2 yr deal.

Unless you get comparable value for Surtain....you just cant trade the guy. Im sure he will take a 4 yr extension which would minimize the cap hit for the first couple years.

Seau and Fiddler are gone....though it will be interesting to see how the Seau situation is handled. He will without a doubt want to keep playing.

Mako
12-23-2004, 01:08 PM
Seau and Fiedler you can kiss goodbye now. Neither will be returning next season, that's a given.

As for Freeman and Surtain, I actually see them staying while Sam Madison and Sammy Knight get the heave ho.

That's just my guess though. I would love to see both re-structure their contracts and remain in Miami.

Jaj
12-23-2004, 04:28 PM
Bowens is not gone. With his cleared back he will take a pay cut and start for us again in 2004.

FinsNYanksFan13
12-29-2004, 04:19 AM
Bowens has played well and I think he's worth keeping for sure!

TTech7
01-03-2005, 07:11 AM
true

Ferretsquig
01-03-2005, 10:16 AM
Bowens has played well and I think he's worth keeping for sure!
Wrong Bowens....

FinFan013
01-05-2005, 09:53 AM
Surtain isnt going anywhere....hes one of the best player on the team we def need him..to let him go would be foolish...i think they need to let madison go...a couple years ago he was one of if not the best corner in the game...as much as i like him as a player his time is up

finsforlife
01-07-2005, 05:02 PM
I'll take Surtain over Madison anyday......

Finhead83
01-08-2005, 10:56 PM
Miami won't get rid of Madison. They redid his contract before '04 and if they trade/release him they will take too big of a cap hit. Tim Bowens is cleared to play and already said he will restructure his contract to stay with Miami.

DolfanNJ
01-09-2005, 06:45 PM
What I would love to know is what the hell we were thinking giving Fiedler that kind of contract. Jeez, Wanny had his head up his a** even more than I remembered.

Ferretsquig
01-09-2005, 10:55 PM
What I would love to know is what the hell we were thinking giving Fiedler that kind of contract. Jeez, Wanny had his head up his a** even more than I remembered.
The contract made perfect sense. You give the guy 2 years to prove he can be a quality starter. The real question is why after 2 years of mediocrity he was kept around. The answer at that time was that noone else was available.

Jaj
01-09-2005, 11:19 PM
I'd rather have Madison. Surtain gets beat way too often.

nick1
01-10-2005, 08:01 AM
Good bye Jay Fiedler,Freeman,Seau,Bowens, and

Surtain :cry:

Chester too

nick1
01-10-2005, 08:16 AM
I've calulated some things and found out that if we say bye to Seau, Konrad, Turk, Surtain, and Fielder then we will have 4.6 mil of cap room to work with. If we also get rid of Bowens and Chester like some of you think then we would have 8.5 mil of cap room but remember we will have to re-sign Greenwood if we want him and we have to work out a deal with McMicheal who only has a year left on his contract and will make big bucks. We can do some of what I said and restructure some players to get about 1 to 2 mil of cap more. We can get rid of Boston but he is only getting half a mil a year so I think he is worth it. We must at least restructure Freeman's contract because he is not worth 3 mil.

Just some ideas since we are 11.6 mil over cap at the moment

dolfan348454999
01-20-2005, 11:06 AM
I'd rather have Madison. Surtain gets beat way too often.
:roflmao: Surtain is much better. He would be a pro bolwler if it wasn't such a int race for CBs.

dolfan348454999
01-20-2005, 11:07 AM
What do you think Seau is worth. He is a great player, but won't be playing very long. So what is a good LB for 1 or 2 years worth.

chambers09
02-26-2005, 01:32 AM
fiedler and freeman are both gone so they need to make a few minor cuts. they need to keep their defense the way it is they are definately the best overall in the afc if not the league. ive heard that saban wants to keep seau but i dunno if that was true or not. which bowens are we talkin about tim or david??

byroan
02-28-2005, 04:06 AM
The Bad News: It won't be official until AFTER June 1st.

Whew. Thank god you were wrong. I don't know if I could have lasted until then..lol

Chiefs_no_1
04-10-2005, 04:08 PM
I would be ok with that, except Surtain!

WE NEEEEEED HIM!


Hopefully Surtain is getting fitted for red and gold as we speak

Chiefs_no_1
04-10-2005, 04:09 PM
Hopefully Surtain is getting fitted for red and gold as we speak
we need him more than you guys do

Nublar7
04-10-2005, 04:15 PM
Whew. Thank god you were wrong. I don't know if I could have lasted until then..lol
Thank god I was a dufus on that one huh? :lol:

Phinsfan1980
04-10-2005, 04:18 PM
we need him more than you guys do If so than why can't you give us some value for him? :tongue:

Chiefs_no_1
04-10-2005, 04:19 PM
we will its just, we want to low ball saban till the 23rd

Phinsfan1980
04-10-2005, 04:24 PM
we will its just, we want to low ball saban till the 23rd:lol: Sabans balls are low enough. I know I can't wait til the draft.