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GRT8
01-23-2005, 11:02 PM
I Can't Put My Finger On One Thing That Makes New England So Good!
Any Opinions Of How They Do It? Back Up Players No Turnovers Coaches???

Phin19
01-23-2005, 11:05 PM
I Can't Put My Finger On One Thing That Makes New England So Good!
Any Opinions Of How They Do It? Back Up Players No Turnovers Coaches???


i don`t know, maybe they sold their souls to the devil :evil: :evil:

GRT8
01-23-2005, 11:05 PM
bRADY NEVER LIGHTS UP THE BOARD WITH STATS...HE JUST MAKES PLAYS.....THEY ARE VERY DIVERSE ON OFFENSE TOO....LONG BALL...SHORT PASSES....POWER RUNNING......FAULK'S QUICK FOR A CHANGE OF PACE....THEY HAVE IT ALL

GRT8
01-23-2005, 11:06 PM
i don`t know, maybe they sold their souls to the devil :evil: :evil:

HAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Bonedoc7777
01-23-2005, 11:06 PM
coaching and no players with big heads

Steveo 90
01-23-2005, 11:08 PM
coaching and no players with big heads

Yup............

PackPhin
01-23-2005, 11:08 PM
See? That's the thing. there no one thing you can put your finger on and say that's what makes them go. Theres the coaching, theres the depth (who even notice richard seymour being out?), there theQB play, theres the defense, and finally there the special teams play with Vinny and Troy Brown.

You can't sit down as a coordinator and say, "okay we wil shutdown the pass and make em beat us another way." They are just too complete a team for someone to shutdown every aspect of thier game. Thier "game" is a "complete team game."

Thatswhy they are so good. If you wanna beat the Pats, you gotta start by not being yourself, only then can you start thinking about beating them...

GRT8
01-23-2005, 11:09 PM
See? That's the thing. there no one thing you can put your finger on and say that's what makes them go. Theres the coaching, theres the depth (who even notice richard seymour being out?), there theQB play, theres the defense, and finally there the special teams play with Vinny and Troy Brown.

You can't sit down as a coordinator and say, "okay we wil shutdown the pass and make em beat us another way." They are just too complete a team for someone to shutdown every aspect of thier game. Thier "game" is a "complete team game."

Thatswhy they are so good. If you wanna beat the Pats, you gotta start by not being yourself, only then can you start thinking about beating them...

THAT IS THE BEST STATEMENT I HAVE EVER HEARD...AWESOME POST!

KB21
01-23-2005, 11:10 PM
1. The players trust in one another, and they play as a team.
2. The way they prepare for the games is unmatched in the league.
3. They game plan. They are one of the few teams that actually game plan a scheme to take adavantage of their opponent's weakness. They don't go out and say "Well, we have to run the ball to be successfull, or that we have to pass the ball to be successful." They just do whatever it takes to be successful.
4. They don't have any selfish players or anyone with character questions that effects their play on the field.
5. They don't make mistakes.
6. They are fundamentally sound.

outlawd2u
01-23-2005, 11:10 PM
They're the Ultimate TEAM!!! They also are strong at practucally every position...... Good QB, Good WR's(They hardly EVER drop a pass) good ground game, Awesome defense across the board, and one of the best, if not THE best Coach in the NFL!!!

KB21
01-23-2005, 11:11 PM
Thatswhy they are so good. If you wanna beat the Pats, you gotta start by not being yourself, only then can you start thinking about beating them...

That's exactly right!

That's how Miami beat the Patriots. Miami didn't beat themselves and gave themselves a chance. They forced New England to make the critical mistakes.

thebigshow405
01-23-2005, 11:12 PM
WHEN THERE ARE INTERCEPTIONS TO BE MADE, THEY CATCH THEM.
WHEN THEY GO DEEP, THEIR RECEIVERS CATCH THE BALL.
WHEN THEY NEED A STOP ON THIRD DOWN, THEY GET IT.
WHEN THEY NEED A FG, THEY HIT IT.

They never miss out on opportunities. They have excellent coaching, they are well focused, they execute well, and most importantly, they have the experience of previous winning. You do not see their corners, while "worse" than Madison and Surtain, drop EASY INTs and then smile and laugh it off like it is no big deal... or better yet, REGGIE HOWARD DROPPING INTs, ie, against arizona.

Nappy Roots
01-23-2005, 11:12 PM
they are a dynasty. they have everything possible. i hate to say it, but they are a dynasty.

Gator Mike
01-23-2005, 11:12 PM
PackPhin is right on...

They are by FAR the most balanced team in the NFL. They have roster depth, and as a result, they have virtually no holes on their team.

Their starting 22 might not be the most talented team in the league, but they've got the best 53-man roster in the league.

Incredible how in back to back weeks they made the #1 offense (Indy) and the #1 defense (Pittsburgh) look silly.

But that's how they work... if you run the ball well, they'll scheme a way to take away the run and make you beat them in a way that you're not comfortable... but if a team takes away their run, they're good enough throwing that it's not really a problem for them.

Balance, boys and girls - that's what makes the Patriots so good.

GRT8
01-23-2005, 11:14 PM
3. They game plan. They are one of the few teams that actually game plan a scheme to take adavantage of their opponent's weakness.

GRT8
01-23-2005, 11:16 PM
1. The players trust in one another, and they play as a team.
2. The way they prepare for the games is unmatched in the league.
3. They game plan. They are one of the few teams that actually game plan a scheme to take adavantage of their opponent's weakness. They don't go out and say "Well, we have to run the ball to be successfull, or that we have to pass the ball to be successful." They just do whatever it takes to be successful.
4. They don't have any selfish players or anyone with character questions that effects their play on the field.
5. They don't make mistakes.
6. They are fundamentally sound.

MASTERS OF TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A TEAMS WEEKNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

aqua vita81
01-23-2005, 11:18 PM
Organization and Tom Brady

constantine
01-23-2005, 11:18 PM
That got only one name.....COACHING!!!! thats it dicipline and smart play

KB21
01-23-2005, 11:24 PM
They also happen to be a team that is so well coached in every aspect of the game, that they have no weakness. If you try to keep them from running the ball, Brady can beat you. If you try to stop Brady, Dillon will beat you.

Defensively, they will find a way to take away what you do best. To attack them defensively, you have to be able to throw the ball as well as run the ball, and you have to be smart. Basically, you have to play offense like they do.

Watch what they will do against Philly next week. I guarantee you that New England will take away Philly's outlet in Westbrook, take away McNabb's rushing lanes, and force McNabb to beat them by making decisions from the pocket.

To beat this defense, you have to be patient. You have to be willing to take the nickle and dime stuff that they will give you, and hope that the one time they have a break down, you capitalize on it.

Cannonboy
01-23-2005, 11:29 PM
Coaching and they do all the little things to perfection. They rarely make mistakes, everyone knows where they should be on the field and their role on the team.

Celtkin
01-23-2005, 11:30 PM
Coaching and the fact that every player is commited to being a part of the team

DolFan31
01-23-2005, 11:34 PM
They play to your strengths instead of weaknesses.

byroan
01-23-2005, 11:34 PM
Go Eagles Go :(

edsta74
01-23-2005, 11:44 PM
they are the epitomy of a "TEAM". they have players that will kill themselves trying to make a play that will help them win. they take the season one game at a time. they are a FAMILY. willing to sacrifice themselves for the TEAM. not for their own benefit. They are a DYNASTY. I hate them :fire: , but i cant deny it. they are the BEST team in the NFL. I hope the fins will be like them very soon. but we have to get rid of all the overpaid selfish players (no names will be mentioned so i dont offend anyone). I hope Saban is the coach that will make it happen. My friends always accuse me of being the biggest dolphins "homer". But anyone who is a true football fan cannot deny the Pats their due respect. The Super Bowl should be a good one. Philly will play tough. but i think the pats win again! :mad: JMHO

aqua vita81
01-23-2005, 11:57 PM
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe2000.htm

Pats 2000 

PYPER
01-24-2005, 12:30 AM
I think they have a simple formula for their success.

GREAT PLAYERS + GREAT COACHING = GREAT TEAM


The BIGGEST fallicy out there is that this team doesn't have stars. The ironic thing is that they probably have more stars than any other team in the league.

1)Brady
2)Dillon
3)Seymour
4)Bruschi
5)McGinest
6)Law
7)Harrison
8)Vinatieri

Plus they've got a ton of young talent on the verge of becoming "stars" (whatever that means).

1)Deion Branch
2)David Givens
3)Daniel Graham
4)Ben Watson
5)Ty Warren
6)Vince Wilfork
7)Eugene Wilson (Most UNDERRATED DB IN NFL: Better than Pittsburgh's Palamalau. He covers like a CB and hits like a LB)
8)Asante Samuel
9)Randall Gay

These lists don't count Oline but there's some emerging stars there as well.

1)Matt Light (Mr. Dependable)
2)Stephen Neal (Former NCAA Wrestling champ
3)Daniel Koppen
4)Tom Ashworth

Like I said:

GREAT Players + GREAT Coaching = GREAT Team

Unclemeat
01-24-2005, 04:53 PM
One big reason is the rest of the league are just "SO" bad. Musical chair coaching changes, big egos, piss poor management. The NFL has turned into the NBA and showtime. The crappy thing is this may go on for another couple of years.