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knight6jb
03-03-2005, 08:44 PM
Redskins | Patten Signs - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 3 Mar 2005 16:43:17 -0800

<A href="http://www.kffl.com/link/177">David Elfin, of the Washington Times (http://www.kffl.com/link/144), reports the Washington Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl) have signed unrestricted free agent WR David Patten (http://www.kffl.com/player/1200/nfl) (Patriots) to an undisclosed deal.


Patriots getting weaker by the day!

Canadian DolFan
03-03-2005, 08:47 PM
nice..........

Prime
03-03-2005, 08:47 PM
:evil:

DonShula84
03-03-2005, 08:50 PM
Pats will definitely be looking for a WR in the draft

dolfan87
03-03-2005, 08:53 PM
The Pats will be rebuilding of sorts this year. Both offensive and defensive Coord. gone, Ty Law gone, Patten gone...who else, and I missing someone...I know I am...

87

DonShula84
03-03-2005, 08:56 PM
The Pats will be rebuilding of sorts this year. Both offensive and defensive Coord. gone, Ty Law gone, Patten gone...who else, and I missing someone...I know I am...

87

They lost Andruzzi and Brown also

knight6jb
03-03-2005, 08:57 PM
Andruzzi (sp)....OG left to play with cleveland......HAHA finally the Pats might be a little weaker the in the years past:lol:

byroan
03-03-2005, 08:58 PM
But yet some of the fans say they won't miss a beat.

lordlegel
03-03-2005, 08:58 PM
The dynasty ends now!!!!! mwahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

painnotpleasure
03-03-2005, 08:58 PM
Good now maybe this year they'll only go 13-3.

knight6jb
03-03-2005, 08:59 PM
oh and of course we cant forget Weis and Crennel....Not only the coordinators, now the players....I'm loving it!

CanadaPhinsFan
03-03-2005, 09:00 PM
Good now maybe this year they'll only go 13-3.

The sad part is you're probably right :shakeno:

McDuffie81
03-03-2005, 09:09 PM
I wonder why they didnt attempt to resign him? Him and Branch are the only 2 receivers worth a sh*t.

TampaDolphinFan
03-03-2005, 09:17 PM
And Tedy Brushci might not play.

dp790
03-03-2005, 09:25 PM
i live in new england and loved patten.i thought he could be the guy to stretch the field for miami and hes also a great charcter guy..i've met him once or twice and hes a class act to bad hes gone !!

Gator Mike
03-03-2005, 09:32 PM
I wonder why they didnt attempt to resign him? Him and Branch are the only 2 receivers worth a sh*t.

David Givens was the Patriots leading receiver this year.

To be honest, until someone tells me Tedy Bruschi is gone for good, I don't see how the Patriots are that much worse off than they were last year.

BostonDolphan
03-03-2005, 09:36 PM
As long as this team has Brady healthy they will always contend, no matter who he is throwing to or handing to. Patten was a journeyman until he went to new england, theyll pick up practice squader and make him look like Randy Moss.

trick daddy23
03-03-2005, 09:50 PM
they have lost troy brown and david patten.

that is awesome

Anthony3454
03-03-2005, 09:53 PM
Also Law, Andruzzi, Wiess, Crennel, and Bruschi is still up in the air.

Buddwalk
03-03-2005, 09:53 PM
This is the team where every year they get there late round picks to be successful wrs

but it is a step in the right direction them losing these guys

they still however have david givens, bethel johnson, and the superbowl mvp guy

trick daddy23
03-03-2005, 09:53 PM
true

jnewmant
03-03-2005, 09:53 PM
Also Law, Andruzzi, Wiess, Crennel, and Bruschi is still up in the air.i'm sure bruschi is done

CrunchTime
03-03-2005, 09:54 PM
Lets see if they can reload this year.

NHPhinsfan
03-03-2005, 09:57 PM
Also Law, Andruzzi, Wiess, Crennel, and Bruschi is still up in the air.

didn't Andruzzi sign with another team?

dolfan87
03-03-2005, 09:59 PM
Brady's first year of starting they won the Super Bowl...the following year they won 9 games and missed the playoffs.

It doesn't take much, and I really thing the two coordinators leaving will make a bigger mark than everyone expects.

87

GRT8
03-03-2005, 10:06 PM
they have lost troy brown and david patten.

that is awesome

they still have givens(awesome) branch(awesome) they won't miss much....what did brown catch 14 balls all year? ...easily replaced

Shifty187
03-03-2005, 10:10 PM
didn't Andruzzi sign with another team?

I think he signed with the Browns.

NorthFloridaFin
03-03-2005, 10:16 PM
I believe they drafted P.K. Sam last year from FSU, but he got injured in the preseason and wasn't able to play!!! If I'm wrong somebody can correct me.

trick daddy23
03-03-2005, 10:18 PM
troy brown held that secondary together last year except the game against us

beach2nd
03-03-2005, 10:25 PM
Brady's first year of starting they won the Super Bowl...the following year they won 9 games and missed the playoffs.

It doesn't take much, and I really thing the two coordinators leaving will make a bigger mark than everyone expects.

87

Not sure I buy this. The reason they struggled that year was because their defense sucked and got old real quick. They were last in the league in run defense and Otis Smith and Milloy got old real quick, not to mention that Tebucky Jones just plain sucks anyway.

painnotpleasure
03-03-2005, 10:29 PM
The sad part is you're probably right :shakeno:

I really hope not. :(

finfan54
03-03-2005, 10:30 PM
make no mistakes about it. Things just got so bad for the Pats and Belechick knows it. Hey they got three big ones. It was a good ride. Its over.

As soon as the coaches were gone, players were sure to follow. And Bruschi thing is just devastating. On a personal level i mean. they still have good talent and can replenish. The bottom line will be that Saban knows him inside and out and we will put the cabash on the Patriots greatness (whatever is left of it).

Chisel Monkey
03-03-2005, 10:30 PM
I wouldn't laugh myself silly just yet. They don't do anything without a purpose if anything. I'd take heed to what they are doing. There are No dopes in that camp.

RoninFin4
03-03-2005, 10:42 PM
I believe they drafted P.K. Sam last year from FSU, but he got injured in the preseason and wasn't able to play!!! If I'm wrong somebody can correct me.

You are correct, they have P.K. Sam.

Dubfire
03-03-2005, 10:44 PM
they still have givens(awesome) branch(awesome) they won't miss much....what did brown catch 14 balls all year? ...easily replaced

Dont forget about Bethel Johnson who can FLY!!

Deus Ex Dolphin
03-03-2005, 10:50 PM
Unless Troy Brown gets a good offer from another team (the Browns?) he might very well be back with the Pats for vet minimum.

Losing Bruschi is probably the biggest loss for them, assuming he is done -and why would anyone want to risk ANOTHER stroke? He has money, rings, a Pro Bowl appearance so why risk it? Leave while you still have a good measure of health.

The Pats don't look to be the dominant team of the past couple years, but really they have just gone down a few notches to about where the other AFC playoff teams are. No one should write them off anytime soon though.

By the way, no signing bonus for Brady is TOO MUCH! :evil: I hope they give Tom a $45 million bonus and the cap hell that will eventually come with that kind of contract.

DolfanISS
03-03-2005, 10:55 PM
they have lost troy brown and david patten.

that is awesome


Not to rain on your parade but Brown hardly contributed anything as a WR last season and Patten can be replaced. Branch and Givens are there 2 best anyways.

outlawd2u
03-03-2005, 11:02 PM
Losing Troy Brown, David Patten, and Bruschi, will barely hurt these guys, they still have a couple good WR's, and LB's. Losing Ty Law however I believe would be a big blow. Yea, they got by without him, but he's still one of the best CB's in the game period, and their pass D suffered at times when he wasn't there. I still think New England will be a good team but if it turns out they suck because of losing these players then.......... THANK GOD!!!!!!!

Gator Mike
03-03-2005, 11:14 PM
Exactly. The Patriots are so smart.

Duane Starks isn't as good as Ty Law. However, he's better than Earthwind Moreland or Randall Gay, and his cap number is 1/5th of Law's.

Troy Brown, Joe Andruzzi, and David Patten? Good players, but they're all on the wrong side of 30, and they're all replaceable. Depth wide receivers and offensive guards don't cripple teams.

Again - it would be better for the Dolphins if the Pats acted like the Cowboys and try to squeeze every last drop out of the the guys they've won Super Bowls with. Instead, they're trying to reload like the 49ers in late 80's and early 90's when they dropped guys like Ronnie Lott and Joe Montana and Roger Craig before they got too old and expensive.

FireWrongstedt
03-03-2005, 11:17 PM
Okay, let's not kid ourseleves- the Pats are still the team to beat until proven otherwise. They won't be AS good as they've been recently- but they should still COMFORTABLY win the division.

hwc
03-04-2005, 01:52 AM
Just a couple of observations:

The Pats made no effort to resign David Patten. Maybe they know something about how he graded out this year that the Redskins don't.

The Pats have signed every O-lineman who has played in a game to an extension within the last 12 months except Center Dan Koppen (still on his rookie deal) and Andruzzi (who they did not make a serious effort to retain). Maybe they know something about how Andruzzi graded out?

I don't know how it makes sense to refer to "losing" Law, since he did not play a single healthy down for the team last season. They "lost" Law a year ago.

With Starks, the Pats now have four cornerbacks on the roster who have started on a SuperBowl winning team. That kind of depth might be handy in a league where multiple receiver spread offenses are the rage. Oh, the combine cap number for these four is between $5 and $6 million. All four together are about the same as Sam Madison's cap number.

patsfan4ever
03-04-2005, 12:07 PM
For those folks who think losing Patten means the end of the Patriots run,
HA HA HA ... now that you had your laugh, leave.

For others who are more objective, here is Patten's production in this year's post season :


Div Playoffs
3-5-IND 46 (:52) 12-T.Brady pass to 86-D.Patten pushed ob at IND 34 for 12 yards (42-J.David, 27-V.Hutchins)
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1-10-NE 41 (3:09) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete to 86-D.Patten.
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2-10-NE 6 (13:55) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete to 86-D.Patten.
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AFCCG
3-6-PIT 30 (11:29) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete to 86-D.Patten (26-D.Townsend).
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3-6-NE 34 (15:00) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass to 86-D.Patten pushed ob at NE 42 for 8 yards (30-C.Scott).
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3-15-NE 25 (13:50) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete to 86-D.Patten. Coverage by #30 Scott, pressure by #91 Smith.
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SB XXXIX
3-9-NE 45 (11:45) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete to 86-D.Patten.
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2-10-PHI 38 (12:50) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete to 86-D.Patten (21-M.Ware).
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2-4-NE 14 (8:10) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete to 86-D.Patten (32-M.Lewis).
3-4-NE 14 (8:05) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete to 86-D.Patten.



2 receptions for 10 throws in 3 post season games (including back to back drops in the superbowl). This does not define a #1 or a #2 WR. Patten was sometime covered by linebackers in the slot and still had dropsies). As people have pointed out before :
- Patriots made no attempt to sign him, they are looking to get young in this team and unemotionally letting the vets leave if they are getting insane contracts outside.
- They have Branch, Givens (mid-tendered RFA), B. Johnson, PK Sam and are looking for a good KR/PR specialist and a #4 WR. They can use either day-2 picks or get somebody cheap through FA.


So, don't be writing the post-script on the Patriots dominance yet.