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saban_era
04-21-2005, 04:59 PM
get a RB or QB in the 3rd

who's with me??!!!!!

knight6jb
04-21-2005, 05:01 PM
Not me!:tongueout

HysterikiLL
04-21-2005, 05:02 PM
Not me!:tongueout

I second that!

ether79
04-21-2005, 05:02 PM
I'll take edwards or Brown at 2 in no way would i take Merriman, IMO thats a huge reach at the 2 spot.

fin-atic
04-21-2005, 05:03 PM
Dude you been smoking with Ricky. Merriman at #2?!?!?!?!

saban_era
04-21-2005, 05:09 PM
should've known that having an independant opinion wouldn't fly at conformist heavan

go back to getting you opinions from draft guides

CanadianPhinFan
04-21-2005, 05:11 PM
should've known that having an independant opinion wouldn't fly at conformist heavan

go back to getting you opinions from draft guides

:roflmao: Conformist! :roflmao:

No...its called common sense. Merriman is NOT worthy of the #2 pick, he is a top 15 pick...

knight6jb
04-21-2005, 05:12 PM
should've known that having an independant opinion wouldn't fly at conformist heavan

go back to getting you opinions from draft guides

I havent gotten my opinion from any draft guide on any player, I too am in the minority with my player, Caddy. I am not sold on Edwards, and Merriman really is a stretch @2.

ether79
04-21-2005, 05:14 PM
should've known that having an independant opinion wouldn't fly at conformist heavan

go back to getting you opinions from draft guides
Then explain with your expert opinion how its justifiable to draft merriman with the 2nd pick, because it's definately independent of everything i've ever seen on the field or in a draft guide

saban_era
04-21-2005, 05:15 PM
He will be the best pro of this draft

I know that all you experts had Tom Brady as the best player in his draft

"common sense" got Brady picked in the 6th round

Section126
04-21-2005, 05:16 PM
Merriman?...Why don't we just take Brock Berlin? Or the Kicker from Ohio State?

Awsi Dooger
04-21-2005, 05:20 PM
Merriman is more of a certainty to be an NFL star than Ronnie Brown.

I wouldn't fret at all if we took him at #2. I posted last night that a player with Merriman's skills inevitably goes much higher than projected. It's too much of a defensive oriented league to believe all these mocks that are flooded with virtually nothing but offensive players among the top 10.

saban_era
04-21-2005, 05:21 PM
Merriman is also a much better player than Derrick Johnson whose *** is home for quite a few homer-heaven members

ether79
04-21-2005, 05:22 PM
Merriman is also a much better player than Derrick Johnson
I totally agree with you on that.

saban_era
04-21-2005, 05:22 PM
odds are the best player of the draft will be taken beyond the first round

"common sense" tells me this

finjim
04-21-2005, 05:23 PM
Edwards, yes.


Merriman ?


:roflmao:

Section126
04-21-2005, 05:23 PM
Merriman is more of a certainty to be an NFL star than Ronnie Brown.

I wouldn't fret at all if we took him at #2. I posted last night that a player with Merriman's skills inevitably goes much higher than projected. It's too much of a defensive oriented league to believe all these mocks that are flooded with virtually nothing but offensive players among the top 10.


By your rational that would mean that we should take the kicker from Ohio State...cuz everybody says that he is an instant pro bowler.

knight6jb
04-21-2005, 05:23 PM
Merriman is also a much better player than Derrick Johnson whose *** is home for quite a few homer-heaven members

Just out of curiousity, when did you become a pro scout??? and give some basis to all the things you are saying, please. Merriman in my opinion will be good none the less, but is a workout warrior, after his meausrments and times, he straight skyrocketed up the draft charts. Did you want him before his workouts?

FinsAreLife
04-21-2005, 05:24 PM
get a RB or QB in the 3rd

who's with me??!!!!!

:shakeno:

saban_era
04-21-2005, 05:25 PM
when did you become a pro scout???

the same day you got your GED

knight6jb
04-21-2005, 05:25 PM
Merriman is also a much better player than Derrick Johnson whose *** is home for quite a few homer-heaven members

And if people like DJ better then the RB's, QB's, and WR's, then it seems they have their own independent opinion's as well and could easily say that you are wrong. B/c no one has DJ going to the fins at #2 anymore.....

ether79
04-21-2005, 05:25 PM
odds are the best player of the draft will be taken beyond the first round

"common sense" tells me this
Sure but with you trying to project who that is you're not using common sense. Did you tell everybody a few years ago that every GM was wrong because Tom Brady was going to be the best.

Section126
04-21-2005, 05:26 PM
Mike Nugent at number 2....book it....mark it down.

saban_era
04-21-2005, 05:26 PM
When Merriman has a monster career, I will have the last laugh

knight6jb
04-21-2005, 05:28 PM
the same day you got your GED

Well thats awesome!! Funny in about a year I will have 3 degrees....what about you? Back your comments about why you want Merrimen and why DJ sucks, and you might get some credibility, instead of making dumb comments towards other members for not having the same opinion as you.

saban_era
04-21-2005, 05:28 PM
I found a draft guide that says merriman is the best

now I don't have to think for myself and can be accepted in the homer-heaven league of drones

knight6jb
04-21-2005, 05:31 PM
I found a draft guide that says merriman is the best

now I don't have to think for myself and can be accepted in the homer-heaven league of drones

Well you havent said one thing about him other than he is the best.... sounds to me like you either heard about his workout or you like what you read out of a draft guide.....:confused:

ether79
04-21-2005, 05:31 PM
I found a draft guide that says merriman is the best

now I don't have to think for myself and can be accepted in the homer-heaven league of drones
What makes you think merriman is the best or that he will be? Throw you thoughts out there instead of just saying silly stuff about draft guides, common sense, and homers(whatever that has to do w/ this subject)

THOMAS_54
04-21-2005, 05:34 PM
Merriman?...Why don't we just take Brock Berlin? Or the Kicker from Ohio State? Or better yet, Maurice Clarrett.

knight6jb
04-21-2005, 05:35 PM
What makes you think merriman is the best or that he will be? Throw you thoughts out there instead of just saying silly stuff about draft guides, common sense, and homers(whatever that has to do w/ this subject)

I think he is looking through his draft guides for some things to say about Merriman....

I bet he has never even seen him play!

ether79
04-21-2005, 05:36 PM
I think he is looking through his draft guides for some things to say about Merriman....

I bet he has never even seen him play!
Yep "common sense" tells me that.

saban_era
04-21-2005, 05:36 PM
He is a monster 3-4 LB who will fill the McGinest/Porter role

he is an explosive defender who I predict will have double digit sacks in his rookie year

unlike johnson he will be able to defend the point of attack too

Phin_Phan
04-21-2005, 05:40 PM
Agreed with Edwards.......and couldnt Disagree with you more about Merriman!!!

No defensive player is worth even a top 7 pick let alone a #2

ether79
04-21-2005, 05:40 PM
He is a monster 3-4 LB who will fill the McGinest/Porter role

he is an explosive defender who I predict will have double digit sacks in his rookie year

unlike johnson he will be able to defend the point of attack too
Ok maybe, but he is still not worth the 2, with the rest of talent you leave out of your equation. I don't think you can make him the pick at 2, I could be wrong and if your right congrats.

knight6jb
04-21-2005, 05:43 PM
He is a monster 3-4 LB who will fill the McGinest/Porter role

he is an explosive defender who I predict will have double digit sacks in his rookie year

unlike johnson he will be able to defend the point of attack too

I wa sjust looking over your old posts, and realized you never have backed anything you have ever said on here, you just say he is the best, or get him, or this guy = this guy.....blah blah, sounds like you dont have your own opinion and and just posting what you hear. Im done!

Awsi Dooger
04-21-2005, 05:53 PM
By your rational that would mean that we should take the kicker from Ohio State...cuz everybody says that he is an instant pro bowler.

Nice whiff.

I'm all for value, as much or more as anyone on this board. I bet sports every day, 40+ wagers per day during college basketball season, and it's all based on a value system researched over the past decade and beyond.

You contradict yourself to remarkable measure. If I went by what "everybody says" then how am I comfortable with Merriman at #2? How can I assert he will be a better pro than Ronnie Brown? Hint: I've seen them play dozens of times each in Las Vegas sportsbooks. The next online scouting report I look at this year will be my first. Merriman has phenomenal instincts, tackling ability and a defensive mean streak. He is everything Derrick Johnson's apologists pretend Johnson is. When there's a naughty blocker between himself and the ball carrier, Merriman will disregard the blocker and explode toward the ball. Johnson looks for the shortest route to loop the blocker, like a center city bypass. At RB, Ronnie Brown will thrill to run into the backs of his blockers and is simply not instinctive enough to be a star NFL RB.

I believe this draft is ever more blanketed in ability than is generally accepted. That is why there is virtually no chance of a trade down at full value. If we do so, it will make the chart gurus whine because no chance it will feintly resemble their chalkboards. Consequently, I have no problem taking Merriman at #2. Just my opinion, obviously, but I think he is a legit Pro Bowler and a disruptive mainstay for a decade+.

saban_era
04-21-2005, 05:59 PM
I am not alone

not everyone is a drone

larfo2224
04-21-2005, 06:00 PM
Dave you are no longer running our drafts. Take Rick and head back to Pitt.

lllarson_ll
12-22-2005, 01:54 AM
it's good to be right

Merriman would be a nice player in our D

Kobe
12-22-2005, 01:55 AM
it's good to be right

Merriman would be a nice player in our D

Are you saying youd rather have Merriman over Ronnie Brown? Ronnie is going to be a SUPERSTAR in this league.

dominizzo
12-22-2005, 01:56 AM
Shawne Merriman is amazing

lllarson_ll
12-22-2005, 01:58 AM
I said Merriman would be awesome and got raked over the coals

forget comparisons to Brown, dude is a Pro-bowler

FinNasty
12-22-2005, 01:59 AM
it's good to be right

Merriman would be a nice player in our D

While Merriman is a stud LB... I would rather have RonnieB, especially since we were able to grab Crowder in the 3rd...

dolphan117
12-22-2005, 02:00 AM
I am just fine with Brown.

PhinSoldia
12-22-2005, 02:01 AM
While Merriman is a stud LB... I would rather have RonnieB, especially since we were able to grab Crowder in the 3rd...

with hindsight being 20/20....i agree

caneaddict
12-22-2005, 02:12 AM
I said Merriman would be awesome and got raked over the coals

forget comparisons to Brown, dude is a Pro-bowler

While I'm happy with Brown, Awsi and the initial poster of this thread (not sure if that's you since the screenname has changed?) were DAMN good and took a ton of flack.

Think about it, even if you like Brown more, is there any other player taken in the 1st round that you would take today over Merrimen? If the answer is no (which I think it should be), then at the end of the rookie season it appears these guys were right -

Merrimen is the 2nd best player in that 1st round (and that's only if you prefer Ronnie which some people may not).

caneaddict
12-22-2005, 02:14 AM
I will definitely remember this and value their opinions more favorably come draft time.

campeonaso
12-22-2005, 02:16 AM
i thought you were talking about donnie edwards or shaun merriman ,lol

Section126
12-22-2005, 02:57 AM
At the time...it would have been stupid to take Merriman at #2......

and guess what....if they ran the draft again....I would bet dollars to doughnuts that Ronnie Brown STILL goes #2 ....

So no...you were wrong.....

Had we had a later pick...then your arguement was fine....

This is like coming on here 10 years ago saying we should have taken Terrell Davis in the 1st round....then two years later when he is a pro bowler....you diggin up the thread and saying "I told you so."

I'd rather have Ronnie Brown....and every other executive in the NFL that doesn't have a superstar RB already would say the same thing.

lllarson_ll
12-22-2005, 03:02 AM
Merriman?...Why don't we just take Brock Berlin? Or the Kicker from Ohio State?
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uh no, you were wrong, thanks for playing

L.T.21
01-04-2006, 04:15 PM
When Merriman has a monster career, I will have the last laugh

Well on your way:-)

kastofsna120
01-04-2006, 04:30 PM
i said merriman would be a bust. i'm sticking to that

Nappy Roots
01-04-2006, 04:33 PM
i said merriman would be a bust. i'm sticking to that





:grouplaug


i thought merriman would be the best LB in the draft, but i thought that was my ACC biased taking over, so i went with most experts in DJ.

kastofsna120
01-04-2006, 04:54 PM
i just can't wait for 8 years from now when merriman ends up being average so i can come back and say "HAHAHAHA I TOLD YOU SO I TOLD YOU SO I WAS RIGHT I WAS RIGHT YOU WERE WRONG YOU WERE WRONG LOLOLOL HAHAHAHA"

Nappy Roots
01-04-2006, 05:05 PM
i just can't wait for 8 years from now when merriman ends up being average so i can come back and say "HAHAHAHA I TOLD YOU SO I TOLD YOU SO I WAS RIGHT I WAS RIGHT YOU WERE WRONG YOU WERE WRONG LOLOLOL HAHAHAHA"


:sidelol:

seriously kast, your definition of kast is off a lil bit. a first round pick isnt a bust when he wins goes to probowls, wins awards, and has some "average" years.

kastofsna120
01-04-2006, 05:11 PM
:sidelol:

seriously kast, your definition of kast is off a lil bit. a first round pick isnt a bust when he wins goes to probowls, wins awards, and has some "average" years.
my definition of kast: "brilliant young man"


but my definition of bust is tangible

Nappy Roots
01-04-2006, 05:12 PM
my definition of kast: "brilliant young man"


but my definition of bust is tangible


god i gotta starting reading what i type :shakeno: