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Phin_Phan
05-14-2005, 11:55 PM
I just read the post about the top 3 Phins of all time, now I was thinking......who do you think is the top 5 players of all time in the NFL?? You can put players still in the NFL if you think by the time they retire they will be good enough for your top 5. If you have a particular order then put it in one, but if not just say its in "no particular order" and if there's a few you would like to put in an honorable mention category then go for it haha.

No Particular Order:

1) Dan Marino (arguably the best QB of all time, a no brainer for the top 5 for me)

2) Peyton Manning (Sad to say all you hardcore Marino fans, but IMO I think he will pass pretty much all of Marino's records when its all said and done and be known as the best QB of all time)

3) Jerry Rice (Holds pretty much every recieving record in NFL history, IMO he is easily the best WR of all time)

4) Barry Sanders (was well ahead of shattering the all time rushing record before he retired suddenly, in one season he was averaging 6.1 YPC and ran for over 2000 yards, IMO the best RB of all time, no one will ever run like Barry did)

5) Ray Lewis (I may get critisized for this one, but Im all for this guy, he's a true team player, leader and the most dominate/intimidating defensive player in the NFL today, there's no one who compares to Ray Lewis and I honestly think that he will go down as the best defensive player of all time.....but this is all IMO)

Honorable Mention: John Elway, Reggie White, Tim Brown, OJ Simpson, Randy Moss, Lawerance Taylor, Joe Montanna. There's just so many.

Fin Fan in Cali
05-14-2005, 11:57 PM
I just read the post about the top 3 Phins of all time, now I was thinking......who do you think is the top 5 players of all time in the NFL?? You can put players still in the NFL if you think by the time they retire they will be good enough for your top 5. If you have a particular order then put it in one, but if not just say its in "no particular order" and if there's a few you would like to put in an honorable mention category then go for it haha.

No Particular Order:

1) Dan Marino (arguably the best QB of all time, a no brainer for the top 5 for me)

2) Peyton Manning (Sad to say all you hardcore Marino fans, but IMO I think he will pass pretty much all of Marino's records when its all said and done and be known as the best QB of all time)

3) Jerry Rice (Holds pretty much every recieving record in NFL history, IMO he is easily the best WR of all time)

4) Barry Sanders (was well ahead of shattering the all time rushing record before he retired suddenly, in one season he was averaging 6.1 YPC and ran for over 2000 yards, IMO the best RB of all time, no one will ever run like Barry did)

5) Ray Lewis (I may get critisized for this one, but Im all for this guy, he's a true team player, leader and the most dominate/intimidating defensive player in the NFL today, there's no one who compares to Ray Lewis and I honestly think that he will go down as the best defensive player of all time.....but this is all IMO)

Honorable Mention: John Elway, Reggie White, Tim Brown, OJ Simpson, Randy Moss, Lawerance Taylor, Joe Montanna. There's just so many.Too early to put Lewis and Payton in there! You could have added Walter"Sweetness" Payton, and Jim Brown though.

Phin_Phan
05-15-2005, 12:03 AM
Too early to put Lewis and Payton in there! You could have added Walter"Sweetness" Payton, and Jim Brown though.

Peyton has thrown for over 4000 yards for about 7 years straight now, I think he's proven......and he has the exact same offense this year and probably for a few more years to come

His Dudeness
05-15-2005, 12:05 AM
total bunk!


how is jim brown not even an honorable mention?

Ray Lewis, while great, NOT IN TOP 5 players all time. MAYBE TOP 5 LB. Dude, i realize this is your generation, as it is mine, but players now, are not exactly the only great ones. my point is, Peyton Manning doesn't belong in there either. and probably neither does marino. Rings Help. Lets wait for Manning to finish his career, because at this point, he hasn't done anything. take him out of the dome and into pressure playoff situations.. manhandled. 41-0 against Jets. Throws 4 pics to NE. then last years miraculous showing... please, give me a break.

Fin Fan in Cali
05-15-2005, 12:08 AM
Peyton has thrown for over 4000 yards for about 7 years straight now, I think he's proven......and he has the exact same offense this year and probably for a few more years to comeHe has a great career so far I give you that. It's too early to put him in the top 5. You really need to think this out better. Your are evn putting him in front of Joe Montana who you didn't even mention on your list. Peyton must be able to in the future win the big game to get in the top 5.

motioncityhifi
05-15-2005, 12:08 AM
I just read the post about the top 3 Phins of all time, now I was thinking......who do you think is the top 5 players of all time in the NFL?? You can put players still in the NFL if you think by the time they retire they will be good enough for your top 5. If you have a particular order then put it in one, but if not just say its in "no particular order" and if there's a few you would like to put in an honorable mention category then go for it haha.

No Particular Order:

1) Dan Marino (arguably the best QB of all time, a no brainer for the top 5 for me)

2) Peyton Manning (Sad to say all you hardcore Marino fans, but IMO I think he will pass pretty much all of Marino's records when its all said and done and be known as the best QB of all time)

3) Jerry Rice (Holds pretty much every recieving record in NFL history, IMO he is easily the best WR of all time)

4) Barry Sanders (was well ahead of shattering the all time rushing record before he retired suddenly, in one season he was averaging 6.1 YPC and ran for over 2000 yards, IMO the best RB of all time, no one will ever run like Barry did)

5) Ray Lewis (I may get critisized for this one, but Im all for this guy, he's a true team player, leader and the most dominate/intimidating defensive player in the NFL today, there's no one who compares to Ray Lewis and I honestly think that he will go down as the best defensive player of all time.....but this is all IMO)

Honorable Mention: John Elway, Reggie White, Tim Brown, OJ Simpson, Randy Moss, Lawerance Taylor, Joe Montanna. There's just so many.

Elway, Montana, Jim Brown, list goes on and on before you can add Ray Lewis and Peyton Manning to the list of 5 all time greatest. Manning is a good regular season quarterback but he can never win the big game. He lost to Surtain's highschool in the championship and he couldnt win the national championship at tennessee. Lewis is a good linebacker but he isnt one of the all time greats. Jack Lambert, LT, Bounicotti, alot better linebackers than him.

Phin_Phan
05-15-2005, 12:11 AM
everyone's critisising my picks, but no one is putting any of there's up, so if you guys know so much then why dont you put your top 5 up?? Do you think someone will ***** about yours???

At least I have an opinion on the topic.

and I could have added 100 guys to the honorable mention, Jim Brown and Payton were AMAZING!! im not takin anything away from them! Geez, if I put everyone up there I would be up all night.

motioncityhifi
05-15-2005, 12:11 AM
total bunk!

Peyton Manning doesn't belong in there either. and probably neither does marino.

I pretty much think Marino does since he holds most every major statistic for a quarterback there is.

Fin Fan in Cali
05-15-2005, 12:15 AM
everyone's critisising my picks, but no one is putting any of there's up, so if you guys know so much then why dont you put your top 5 up?? Do you think someone will ***** about yours???

At least I have an opinion on the topic.

and I could have added 100 guys to the honorable mention, Jim Brown and Payton were AMAZING!! im not takin anything away from them! Geez, if I put everyone up there I would be up all night.Hey, I respect that you the sack to post them. AllI am saying is that you have to look to some of the past greats that made this game what it is today. :)

His Dudeness
05-15-2005, 12:15 AM
it's just hard for me to put marino in the top 5 players of all time.

we all have an opinion, here's my list.

Jim Brown
Walter Payton
Joe Montana
Lawrence Taylor
Unitas.

MikeO
05-15-2005, 12:17 AM
Barry Sanders isn't the greatest RB of all time, how can he be on the list?

And an "HONORABLE MENTION" to Tim Brown? Are you kidding?????

Also, Tom Brady and 3 Super Bowl rings must be discussed with this list. Maybe not Top 5, but he is at least in the discussion.

Phin_Phan
05-15-2005, 12:18 AM
ok, I knew everyone would complain about the Lewis and Manning pick.......but I said in the post that you can pick players still playing that you think will end up in the top 5.....I think Peyton and Lewis will be in the top 5 when their careers are all said and done. so how about you give me your top 5......the point of this was to see what you think, not for you all to critique my picks!

MikeO
05-15-2005, 12:18 AM
Jim Brown
John Elway
Joe Montana
L.T.
Deacon Jones

unifiedtheory
05-15-2005, 12:19 AM
Well...lets see what I start with my top 5:

1.) Jerry Rice: Put up absurd numbers for so long and dominated the game like no other.

2.) Walter Payton: People forget how long he played on a VERY bad team yet put up numbers and played his a$$ off every week. He was NEVER hurt and was the greatest all around runner ever.

3.) Dan Marino: Call me a homer but put him on a team with more talent and he'd have a collection of rings to rival Joe Montana.

4.) Joe Montana: Mr. Cool. Always made the play when it had to be made. Never panicked. Has a wall of MVP's and a fist full of rings to prove his greatness.

5.) Lawrence Taylor: Changed the position and changed teams game planning. Explosive, impact player who played big in big games.

Honorable Mention:

Jim Brown: I never saw him play but he dominated his era.
Barry Sanders: Perhaps the most exciting player ever.
Johnny Unitas: I never saw him play but the guy is a legend.
Mr. Ed: The two rings he got in the end put him on this list.
Reggie White: See Lawrence Taylor.

MikeO
05-15-2005, 12:19 AM
ok, I knew everyone would complain about the Lewis and Manning pick.......but I said in the post that you can pick players still playing that you think will end up in the top 5.....I think Peyton and Lewis will be in the top 5 when their careers are all said and done. so how about you give me your top 5......the point of this was to see what you think, not for you all to critique my picks!
To be TOP 5 of all time at the QB position you must actually WIN something. Or at least come close and then have huge stats to back ya up. Manning hasn't won a damn thing in this league and shouldn't even be in the conversation. At least get to a Super Bowl. Even if ya lose, get there!

Lewis WAS a great MLB. Anyone who has watched him hte past 2 years knows he is on the downside of his career and average at best. His run as the "best" at his position was very short.

Fin Fan in Cali
05-15-2005, 12:21 AM
Jim Brown
John Elway
Joe Montana
L.T.
Deacon JonesMike good pick on Deacon Jones!

His Dudeness
05-15-2005, 12:22 AM
that's ridiculous. lewis is far from average at best. i'm not putting him in the top 5 of all time here, but he's a fantastic football player. a first ballot Hofer.

MikeO
05-15-2005, 12:23 AM
that's ridiculous. lewis is far from average at best. i'm not putting him in the top 5 of all time here, but he's a fantastic football player. a first ballot Hofer.

When was the last time you saw a Ravens game? Did you see him look foolish last year on MNF playing KC at home? KC ran right at him and Lewis couldn't even tackle anyone. Just one example, but he was bad last year. Lewis RIGHT NOW is an average player. 4 years ago, 3 years ago......he was a beast. TODAY, he is average.

Just because he does a funny dance, yells, screams, and talks a lot and gets media hype, doesn't mean he is still good.

His Dudeness
05-15-2005, 12:25 AM
i've seen quite a few ravens games, and i think you're nuts. granted, the shoulder injury has taken him off that plateau of untouchables but he's still the best MLB today.

Fin Fan in Cali
05-15-2005, 12:25 AM
Marino
Montana
Brown
Payton
Farve

Honorable Mention
Sanders
Elway
LT
Reggie White

Fin Fan in Cali
05-15-2005, 12:29 AM
Also add Peyton to the Honorable Mention.

Doktor Ivel
05-15-2005, 12:29 AM
Dan Marino
L.T.
Dick Lane
Jerry Rice
Peyton Manning

unifiedtheory
05-15-2005, 12:31 AM
When was the last time you saw a Ravens game? Did you see him look foolish last year on MNF playing KC at home? KC ran right at him and Lewis couldn't even tackle anyone. Just one example, but he was bad last year. Lewis RIGHT NOW is an average player. 4 years ago, 3 years ago......he was a beast. TODAY, he is average.

Just because he does a funny dance, yells, screams, and talks a lot and gets media hype, doesn't mean he is still good.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!

I've been saying this for 2 years at least and I get ripped a new one on a reguaslr basis for it.

Ray Lewis is nothing but bluster and self promotion.

The guy is the best player in the league at falling on the pile or getting "assists". If the NFL regulated the tackling statistic a little more closely you'd see the 200 tackle seasons Ray Lewis gets come to an abrupt end.

Four or five years ago Ray Lewis was the best middle linebacker in football. Today he is irrelevent. Three or four years of dominance don't get you in the top 5 players of all time. I'm willing to bet that when his time comes to get his HOF ticket punched he will find it a lot harder to get in then a lot of you realize. NO WAY does he get in on his first ballot.

MikeO
05-15-2005, 12:31 AM
i've seen quite a few ravens games, and i think you're nuts. granted, the shoulder injury has taken him off that plateau of untouchables but he's still the best MLB today.

He's not even the best MLB in the conference. London Fletcher of Buffalo is. Buffalo's team defense and rushing defense led by Fletcher ranked higher than Lewis last year. Fletcher had more "impact" plays last year than Lewis.

Im not saying Lewis sucks. He just isn't the greatest defensive player in the game anymore. He isn't the best MLB in the game anymore either. It's all hype

fish fan 4 life
05-15-2005, 12:42 AM
1.Barry Sanders 2.Jerry Rice 3.Dan Marino 4.Jim Brown 5.Walter Payton

His Dudeness
05-15-2005, 12:46 AM
excuse me?! London Fletcher?! MR. Give up big play London Fletcher?! no no no no no! he isnt even the best LB on his TEAM! yea, the bills d was better than the ravens this year.. but that doesn't mean LONDON FLETCHER IS GOOD! oh my god, london fletcher... aaahck


London fletcher who guaranteed SB win for the rams?

London fletcher who i clearly remember on Nfl Films, you know the thing with jaws and Merril Hoge, they were highlighting good and bad LBers and fletcher was one of the ones they showed how he was weak at the point of attack and let some weak fullback take him completely out of the play, instead he could have held his ground and halted the FB, which would have made the RB stop or reverse direction. but no, he completely took himself away from the play and gave up a big play.

i respect your previous posts, regarding Lewis not being at the peak anymore. but London Fletcher is just a joke.

Doktor Ivel
05-15-2005, 12:49 AM
fletcher isnt as good as Rey Lewis, Peter Boulware, or Terrell Suggs

HysterikiLL
05-15-2005, 12:52 AM
Lawrence Taylor
Dan Marino
Jim Brown
Walter Payton
Ray Lewis (When he's done).

Honorable mention: Barry Sanders, Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, John Elway, Johnny Unitas, Peyton Manning, Bill Gramatica

nolefin
05-15-2005, 12:55 AM
1. NO DOUBT- WALTER PAYTON- all around best player ever, he could have played reciver or fullback or qb or kicked extra points, could block like no one else! and ran hard every play!

2.jerry rice

3.dan marino

4. L taylor

5. farve

BlitPhinFan
05-15-2005, 01:00 AM
Lawrence Taylor
Dan Marino
Jim Brown
Walter Payton
Ray Lewis (When he's done).

Honorable mention: Barry Sanders, Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, John Elway, Johnny Unitas, Peyton Manning, Bill Gramatica

Hold the phone... If you're going to put a kicker in the honorable mentioned list then you have put Yepremian in there. :wink:

Awsi Dooger
05-15-2005, 02:07 AM
Jim Brown
Lawrence Taylor
Joe Montana
Jerry Rice
Dick Butkus

Soljaboy26
05-15-2005, 02:09 AM
1. Marino

2. Jim Brown

3. Barry Sanders

4. Jerry Rice.

5. Reggie White.

zephon
05-15-2005, 02:38 AM
marino
payton
barry sanders
jerry rice
jim thorpe

zephon
05-15-2005, 02:40 AM
Hold the phone... If you're going to put a kicker in the honorable mentioned list then you have put Yepremian in there. :wink:

a kicker? hell, if you're adding a specialist then it has to be Ray Guy.

20.J.G.18
05-15-2005, 03:03 AM
In no particular order,

Sammy Baugh, Otto Graham, Jim Brown, Jerry Rice, Lawrence Taylor.

honorable mention: Reggie White, Walter Payton, Earl Campbell, Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, Anthony Munoz, Russ Grimm, Mean Joe Greene, John Elway, Dan Marino, Joe Montana, John Unitas, Fran Tarkenton, Sonny Jurgensen, Art Monk, Charley Taylor, Steve Largent, Cris Carter.

(OK so I got carried away on the HM list, I just can't leave off some of those guys.)

SCall13
05-15-2005, 06:30 AM
Barry Sanders isn't the greatest RB of all time, how can he be on the list?

And an "HONORABLE MENTION" to Tim Brown? Are you kidding?????

Also, Tom Brady and 3 Super Bowl rings must be discussed with this list. Maybe not Top 5, but he is at least in the discussion.


Most people will disagree with you on Sanders. I think he is the best RB ever. AS for Brady - he is on one of the best TEAMS ever assembled. He is a good QB, but no way does he have the skills necassary to carry a team. So he has 3 SB rings. THere are probably a few OL, DL, LB, S, CB who also have 3 Super Bowl rings that wouldn't even be mentioned in the top 100. Brady is further from the top 5 than Manning. This is about the top five PLAYERS, not to 5 players on winning/ SB winning teams.

Surferosa
05-15-2005, 06:41 AM
Heres my Top 5:

Jim Brown: So far ahead of his generation with regards to speed and power.

Lawrence Taylor: Probably the most dominating defensive player ever

Jerry Rice: Bar none the greatest at his position, and its not even close.

Otto Graham: Unknown by many newbies, he reached 10 Championship Games in 10 years. He was Montana before Montana, and led one of the the first NFL dynasties. He helped put Football on the map.

Barry Sanders: No rings, no Championships. Just the most unique, explosive player Ive ever seen.

cnc66
05-15-2005, 06:49 AM
Heres my Top 5:

Jim Brown: So far ahead of his generation with regards to speed and power.

Lawrence Taylor: Probably the most dominating defensive player ever

Jerry Rice: Bar none the greatest at his position, and its not even close.

Otto Graham: Unknown by many newbies, he reached 10 Championship Games in 10 years. He was Montana before Montana, and led one of the the first NFL dynasties to glory. He helped put Football on the map.

Barry Sanders: No rings, no Championships. Just the most unique, explosive player Ive ever seen.

this is good, my only change might be adding Jonnie U and moving down Barry.


from an earlier post,

unified theory
Honorable Mention:

Jim Brown: I never saw him play but he dominated his era.
Barry Sanders: Perhaps the most exciting player ever.
Johnny Unitas: I never saw him play but the guy is a legend.
Mr. Ed: The two rings he got in the end put him on this list.
Reggie White: See Lawrence Taylor.

ROFL:roflmao:

LAphinfan
05-15-2005, 07:28 AM
Top 5 is tough. So many positions to narrow down to 5 slots. Here goes

Joe Montana: Mr. clutch. The Michael Jordan of football. The bigger the game, the bigger he played.When Joe took the field and the game was on the line you KNEW he was going to win.

Lawrence Taylor: Reinvented the way defense was played. One of the few defensive players I have ever seen that could take over a game.

Jim Brown: Ran like a man among boys. Before my generation, but he possessed a package of power and speed that allowed him to run over, around, and past opposing defenses. For what its worth ESPN ranked him highest among football players on its 100 top athletes of the century list.

Jerry Rice: Hands down the best reciever ever to play the game.

Barry Sanders: Had moves NOBODY else had before or since. No line, no passing game, no doubt in the defense's mind exactly who's getting the ball? No problem for Barry. Should have owned the all-time rushing record.

Close call: Elway, Marino, Unitas, Sammy Baugh, Butkus, Reggie White, Eric Dickerson, Sweetness, Anthony Munoz, Ronnie Lott, Dick "Night Train" Lane.

Possibilities among current players: Manning and Ray Lewis.

gripgrap
05-15-2005, 08:03 AM
1) Jim Brown
2) Lawrence Taylor
3) Jerry Rice
4) Tie...Joe Montana & Walter Payton
5) Tie...Mike Haynes & Ronnie Lott

Phin_Phan
05-15-2005, 01:45 PM
To be TOP 5 of all time at the QB position you must actually WIN something. Or at least come close and then have huge stats to back ya up. Manning hasn't won a damn thing in this league and shouldn't even be in the conversation. At least get to a Super Bowl. Even if ya lose, get there!

Lewis WAS a great MLB. Anyone who has watched him hte past 2 years knows he is on the downside of his career and average at best. His run as the "best" at his position was very short.

Downside the past 2 years??? LOL!! do you remember he won Defensive MVP 2 years ago?? lol if your downside gets you an MVP award then that's top 5 for me!

Dan13Marino
05-17-2005, 07:18 PM
Jim Brown
Jerry Rice
Dan Marino
Barry Sanders

cant think of a 5th, but some Defensive guy deserves to be on the list.

Diamonds666
05-18-2005, 07:41 AM
Active Players

1. Tom Brady - 3 Super Bowls in 4 Years Nuff Said
2. Corey Dillon - Best Stiff Arm in the NFL
3. Rodney Harrison - Hardest Hidder in the NFL
4. Teddy Bruschi - Best LB in the NFL IMO the guy has a HUGE Hart.
5. Jerry Rice - Best WR of ALL TIME


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