PDA

View Full Version : Batman Begins



Muck
06-16-2005, 01:10 AM
Who else saw it??

I thought it was easily the best of them all. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Liam Neeson and Michael Caine really brought a lot to the film. Christian Bale was an excellent Batman. And Christopher Nolan directed a great film. The hotel clerk from Memento had a big part. :)

Buddwalk
06-16-2005, 01:15 AM
I'm debating if i even want to see it...sorry the best is the first, best cast in a superhero film ever

Jack Nicholson as the joker will never be topped

Predaphin
06-16-2005, 01:20 AM
I'm debating if i even want to see it...sorry the best is the first, best cast in a superhero film ever

Jack Nicholson as the joker will never be topped


My thoughts exactly...

Muck
06-16-2005, 01:29 AM
I'm debating if i even want to see it...sorry the best is the first, best cast in a superhero film ever

Jack Nicholson as the joker will never be topped

You haven't even seen the movie. So that rational don't fly with me. ;)

BTW - this is technically the first one. :tongue:

Buddwalk
06-16-2005, 01:32 AM
Now really thinking about batman...all the batman movies have had great casts but what I really meant is with the great casts none have turned out to be as good as the first...the 2nd was amazing with divito as the penguin and Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman

the 3rd one was crap...

Val Kimmer is the worst batman ever
Tommy Lee Jones was alright as twoface
Jim Carey sucked as the riddler [personally i felt the best riddler would have been in my mind Gene Wilder]

The 4th one was garbage as well

George Clooney was a pretty good batman but no where near as good as Michael Keaton
Arnold was horrible as Mr. Freeze
Alicia Silverstone as batgirl...haha gimmie a break
Uma Thurman as Poison Ivy...i like her but in this role someone else could be better

Muck
06-16-2005, 01:47 AM
This one has a solid cast.

Liam Neeson
Michael Caine
Morgan Freeman
Gary Oldman
Katie Holmes
Christian Bale (American Psycho!!)
Rutger Hauer (always good)

Those are the bigger names in the film.

I'm telling ya, it's a really good flick. It's not like the other Batman films. It's more like the first one if anything. It's not overdone like the ones that followed. Doesn't try and feature all these stars. Instead, it lets them fill their roles.

Go check it out bro. I'm like you. I liked the first one and second ones only. The first was my favorite until I saw this one. :)

Buddwalk
06-16-2005, 01:51 AM
This one has a solid cast.

Liam Neeson
Michael Caine
Morgan Freeman
Gary Oldman
Katie Holmes
Christian Bale (American Psycho!!)
Rutger Hauer (always good)

Those are the bigger names in the film.

I'm telling ya, it's a really good flick. It's not like the other Batman films. It's more like the first one if anything. It's not overdone like the ones that followed. Doesn't try and feature all these stars. Instead, it lets them fill their roles.

Go check it out bro. I'm like you. I liked the first one and second ones only. The first was my favorite until I saw this one. :)

Whos the badguy?

Nublar7
06-16-2005, 01:56 AM
Haven't seen it yet, but I am planing on going this weekend. It is getting AMAZING reviews.

ohall
06-16-2005, 02:03 AM
Sweet I'll check it out prob early next week.

Muck
06-16-2005, 02:09 AM
Whos the badguy?

That's part of the plot. Figuring out who's really 'in charge'.

There are a bunch of bad people. One young guy I've never seen before, but looks really familiar. He's pretty creepy. He's an obvious bad guy.

Buddwalk
06-16-2005, 02:12 AM
That's part of the plot. Figuring out who's really 'in charge'.

There are a bunch of bad people. One young guy I've never seen before, but looks really familiar. He's pretty creepy. He's an obvious bad guy.

hmm...interesting

I might check it out now...

Muck
06-16-2005, 02:16 AM
Haven't seen it yet, but I am planing on going this weekend. It is getting AMAZING reviews.

Yup. It's getting lots of kudos. Ebert and Roper gave 4 stars. Here's the last line from Roger Ebert. Don't worry, I'm not a person who gives anything away (I kill those who do). :)


I said this is the Batman movie I've been waiting for; more correctly, this is the movie I did not realize I was waiting for, because I didn't realize that more emphasis on story and character and less emphasis on high-tech action was just what was needed. The movie works dramatically in addition to being an entertainment. There's something to it.

Make no mistake, there's plenty of action. But it's not overdone.

I'd see this movie again tomorrow if I had time.

Slappy8800
06-16-2005, 02:44 AM
there are rumors that MArk Hammil will be the Joker in the sequel to this one

Dolphin1184
06-16-2005, 02:45 AM
there are rumors that MArk Hammil will be the Joker in the sequel to this one

That would be SWEET. He has one of the best joker voices ever from the animated series.

Buddwalk
06-16-2005, 02:46 AM
there are rumors that MArk Hammil will be the Joker in the sequel to this one

would be stupid and i highly doubt it

You cant replace a preformance like jack nicholsons and try to put in mark hammil...who really arent even in the same league

Jack was basically born to play the part...no one in the world could of played it better

Pagan
06-16-2005, 09:25 AM
Jack was basically born to play the part...no one in the world could of played it better
Um......no.

Jack overplayed the joker BADLY. Does anyone else think that he's a one-trick pony? Basically every character he plays is the same.

Go back and read the comics, Budd. Nicholson was SO wrong as the Joker. In the comics, the Joker was rail thin, and completely, sarcastically evil. Nicholson was fat, and buffoonish.

You want to see a better joker? Search google for "Batman: Dead End" It's a short film that until this new movie was the BEST made Batman.

I can't believe you thought the first one was well cast! MISTER MOM as Batman? Are you kidding me? The man looked like a good fart would knock him on his a$$, and I'm supposed to believe he could grab a man by the collar and have the upper body strength to hold him out at arm's length over the ledge of a building? :roflmao:

The first Batman movie was a joke. More like the goofy TV series than the comics. THIS one, however....is the real deal. Bale IS Batman.

burton87
06-16-2005, 10:04 AM
batman begins is incredible
it might have been the most fun i've ever had at the movies.

best comic book movie of all time.

Migs182005
06-16-2005, 11:02 AM
I don't even like the Batman series and this movie is one of the best movies I have EVER seen. Amazing story and plot. Amazing character development. The action scenes are not even the most entertaining sequences in the movie even though they are superb. Nothing was made too computerized, effects were great.

Overall one of the best movies I've ever seen and I don't like Batman

dolfreak
06-16-2005, 12:03 PM
Batman Begins is easily the best "comic book movie" ever made. The 1989 Original BATMAN has nothing when put up against this movie. Jack Nicholson as The Joker sucked. He was WAY over the top when in the comics the Joker was ONE BAD DUDE. Thank God we finally have a BATMAN movie that kicks *** and that's based on reality.

dolfreak
06-16-2005, 12:09 PM
would be stupid and i highly doubt it

You cant replace a preformance like jack nicholsons and try to put in mark hammil...who really arent even in the same league

Jack was basically born to play the part...no one in the world could of played it better
PERFORMANCE, What performance? Did Jack act so well as the JOKER??? HELL NO....all he did was dance around and shoot a gun.....anyone could've done what jack did in that movie. Nicholson is lucky that movie was made in '89 because he was the "it" actor at the time.
Jack Nicholson was scarier in ANGER MANAGEMENT than he was as the JOKER. The reason they got Jack in the first place was to market the movie. i cant wait till part 2 and the joker.....whether it's Mark Hamill, Adrian Brody,Lachey Hulme, Hugo Weaving or even an unknown.

Regardless the Joker should look something like this:

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2005/06/030724joker-1.jpg

NaboCane
06-16-2005, 12:23 PM
...The reason they got Jack in the first place was to market the movie. i cant wait till part 2 and the joker.....whether it's Mark Hamill, Lachey Hulme, or even an unknown.


Correct. In fact, Robin Williams actually had the part of The Joker in that film, but then the studio stepped in and wanted Jack for marketability.

I think Williams would have been brilliant in that part. But then again, I don't think Nicholson did badly either. His performance was not faithful to the legend, but it did bring a creepy sort of unpredictability to the character. Overall, it worked.

But I'm dying to see this one, it sounds awesome. I'm a Batman buff from way back, and I still have a bunch of Silver Age and '70's comics safely tucked away in the basement.

And BTW, the "first" Batman film was a serial made in the '40's, and a number of those were made before the franchise went dormant during the censorship-ridden Mcarthy era, and wasn't revived until the campy TV series-based movie in the '60's.

Pagan
06-16-2005, 01:01 PM
I found the links....

If you want to see what the Joker SHOULD look and act like, download here:

Batman: Dead End (Full Screen MPG - 160 mb download) (http://download.theforce.net/theater/batman-deadend/Batman_Dead_End_Full_Screen.mpg)

Batman: Dead End (Smaller Screen mov.file - 48 mb download) (http://download.theforce.net/theater/batman-deadend/Batman_Dead_End.mov)

dolfreak
06-16-2005, 01:22 PM
I found the links....

If you want to see what the Joker SHOULD look and act like, download here:

Batman: Dead End (Full Screen MPG - 160 mb download) (http://download.theforce.net/theater/batman-deadend/Batman_Dead_End_Full_Screen.mpg)

Batman: Dead End (Smaller Screen mov.file - 48 mb download) (http://download.theforce.net/theater/batman-deadend/Batman_Dead_End.mov)


ummmmm.....i already went through the trouble when i posted this pic but good looking out:
http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2005/06/030724joker-1.jpg

NaboCane
06-16-2005, 01:27 PM
Where's that from, freak?

Pagan
06-16-2005, 02:03 PM
ummmmm.....i already went through the trouble when i posted this pic but good looking out:
http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2005/06/030724joker-1.jpg
ummmmm....it's called "embellishing".

Seeing a still pic doesn't compare to seeing him in motion. I was adding to your post. ;)

Boone
06-16-2005, 02:04 PM
i cant wait till part 2 and the joker.....whether it's Mark Hamill, Adrian Brody,Lachey Hulme, Hugo Weaving or even an unknown.

I bet Adrian Brody would make a damn good Joker! :bry:

dolfreak
06-16-2005, 02:28 PM
This is from an Amazing Short called Batman:Dead End

If you were familiar with all the DC Comics and DarkHorse Comics of BATMAN this is HEAVEN.... Batman fighting our "FAVORITE SPACE MONSTERS" (no-spoilers) u gotta see this short film!!!!
This was the best rendition of batman until BATMAN BEGINS.

BATMAN BEGINS was AWESOME!!!! The Best "Comic-Book Movie" and even a great OVERALL movie (cast,director,action,GREAT STORY,etc.)
Originally Posted by Pagan
I found the links....

If you want to see what the Joker SHOULD look and act like, download here:

Batman: Dead End (Full Screen MPG - 160 mb download) (http://download.theforce.net/theater/batman-deadend/Batman_Dead_End_Full_Screen.mpg)

Batman: Dead End (Smaller Screen mov.file - 48 mb download) (http://download.theforce.net/theater/batman-deadend/Batman_Dead_End.mov)

http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2005/06/030724joker-1.jpg

dolfreak
06-16-2005, 02:35 PM
ummmmm....it's called "embellishing".

Seeing a still pic doesn't compare to seeing him in motion. I was adding to your post. ;)

Pagan, that Joker f\/cking ruled right? I saw this film like a year and a half ago and i knew it was the most bad a$$ Batman Vs. Joker ever!!
Then AVP shows up unexpectedly it f\/cking Ruled !!!!!

NaboCane
06-16-2005, 02:41 PM
Pagan, that Joker f\/cking ruled right? I saw this film like a year and a half ago and i knew it was the most bad a$$ Batman Vs. Joker ever!!
Then AVP shows up unexpectedly it f\/cking Ruled !!!!!


Did you ever get to read Arkham Asylum? That Joker was right up there with the most terrifying beings ever. I wish someone (Tim Burton?) would make a movie of that story.

Pagan
06-16-2005, 02:43 PM
Did you ever get to read Arkham Asylum? That Joker was right up there with the most terrifying beings ever. I wish someone (Tim Burton?) would make a movie of that story.
No, ANYONE but Burton. He already f*cked the Joker up once......

dolfreak
06-16-2005, 03:17 PM
No, ANYONE but Burton. He already f*cked the Joker up once......

Yup. He should've given Jack the "darkness" he gave Devito as THE PENGUIN in part 2. The Penguin was really freaky.

The guy that played the Joker in Batman Dead End is
Andrew Koenig...if you guys remember he was


Richard "Boner" Stabone on Growing Pains
http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif (http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062857/K=andrew+koenig/v=2/SID=e/l=II/R=1/SS=i/OID=d38d6bdc31792b56/SIG=1flmor3is/EXP=1119036226/*-http%3A//images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dandrew%2Bkoenig%2B%26ei%3DUTF-8%26fr%3DFP-tab-web-t-254%26fl%3D0%26x%3Dwrt&h=215&w=150&imgcurl=www.theescapist.com%2FAndrew_Koenig.JPG&imgurl=www.theescapist.com%2FAndrew_Koenig.JPG&size=7.2kB&name=Andrew_Koenig.JPG&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theescapist.com%2Fkoenig.htm&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theescapist.com%2Fkoenig.htm&p=andrew+koenig&type=jpeg&no=1&tt=133&ei=UTF-8)



http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2005/06/bat03-1.jpg

Roman529
06-16-2005, 06:00 PM
Does Katie Holmes show any skin? I know she won't be better than
Jessica Alba (my future wifey) in Fantastic 4. :lol:

wazzy
06-16-2005, 06:13 PM
I'm debating if i even want to see it...sorry the best is the first, best cast in a superhero film ever

Jack Nicholson as the joker will never be topped

Totally agree with you:D

dolfreak
06-16-2005, 09:37 PM
Does Katie Holmes show any skin?

NOPE, But if your into Scientology she might


If you want to see Katie Holmes Naked rent THE GIFT

dolfreak
06-16-2005, 09:45 PM
I'm debating if i even want to see it...sorry the best is the first, best cast in a superhero film ever
Jack Nicholson as the joker will never be topped

By the way Buddwalk, that's a Ridiculous reason to "Debate" seeing the movie. It's like not buying a Dolphins Ticket to a JETS this season because the 2000 Dolphins were a "better team.":lol: :rofl3: :tongue:

1989 Batman had Jack Nicholson, Michael Keaton, and Kim Basinger. Thats the cast right there, them 3. ONLY 3. Look it up, i'm not lying. But i'll give you this, Jack might be the biggest "name" to appear in a comic book movie. He's one of my fave actors, an all-time great.

Keaton was Fine as Batman/Bruce Wayne. He had the Billionaire Playboy act down pact as well as his "dark" alter ego Batman.

Nicholson was an OK Joker, but he was a total clown. The Joker is supposed to be a serial killer. The next film will have the Joker and it will rule Nicholsons Joker. Ive been dying to see the truly evil Joker that i used to read in the comics.

Kim Basinger was Forgettable.

I'll say that Batman 2 had a Better cast than the first with:


BATMAN/BRUCE WAYNE - Michael Keaton


Selina Kyle/Catwoman - Michelle Pfieffer (Pfieffer or Basinger, no brainer)


Oswald Cobblepot/The Penguin - Danny DeVito (was way more EVIL than the Nicholson's JOKER )


Max Schrek - Christopher Walken <--- acting GOD


But no Batman film, or ANY COMIC BOOK MOVIE for that matter has ever had a cast like this. Hell, any Hollywood movie would wish to have a cast like this and they are all terrific in their Roles. Bale owns Keaton as the Dark Knight.

Batman Begins has:



BATMAN/Bruce Wayne (http://www.dccomics.com/secret_files/dc_character.html?sc_dc_itemCode=batman)........Christian Bale (Best Batman ever)

Alfred Pennyworth (http://www.dccomics.com/secret_files/dc_character.html?sc_dc_itemCode=alfred).......Michael Caine won 2 Oscars, 6-time nominee

SGT. and LT. James Gordon (http://www.dccomics.com/secret_files/dc_character.html?sc_dc_itemCode=jgordon)........Gary Oldman

Asst. Dist. Atty. Rachel Dawes........Katie Holmes

Ra's Al Ghul (http://www.dccomics.com/secret_files/dc_character.html?sc_dc_itemCode=rasalghul).......Ken Watanabe (oscar nominated for THE LAST SAMURAI)

Dr. Jonathan Crane/The Scarecrow (http://www.dccomics.com/secret_files/dc_character.html?sc_dc_itemCode=scarecrow).......Cillian Murphy

Ducard........Liam Neeson (Oscar Nominated SChindlers List)

Carmine Falcone........Tom Wilkinson (oscar nominated for IN THE BEDROOM)

Lucius Fox........Morgan Freeman (oscar winner and 4-time nominee)

Richard Earle........Rutger Hauer

DonShula84
06-16-2005, 10:35 PM
I'm debating if i even want to see it...sorry the best is the first, best cast in a superhero film ever

Jack Nicholson as the joker will never be topped

you havent seen this one so how can you say it isnt the best one?
I saw it last night and thought it was really good. The cast was great and I really liked all the back story involved.

byroan
06-16-2005, 10:47 PM
Looks like I'll have to see it.

Koehler13x
06-17-2005, 12:09 AM
I just came back from the movie tonight and overall i was happy with it except for a few things ... (WARNING: if you haven't seen the movie and don't want it ruined stop reading this now.)







First of all, the new guy that plays batman in my opinion doesn't really have the typical batman voice. One time in particular that i was very disappointed was when he had the fat guy hanging from his leg and he started screaming at him in some kind of psychotic voice. lol maybe it's just me but it seems like all of the past batman's have had a similar voice to one another up until now. Secondly, how on earth did they clear all of the poisonous smog at the end of the movie? They pretty much left that part of the plot completely blank after that guy got killed on the train. It was talking about how they had to mass produce that vaccine and send it throughout the city but it never happened. After that guy died they just went directly to the next day and the whole city was magically fine. I'd have to say its a "fairly" good Batman but it will never beat the first Batman movie that came out with jack nicholas as the joker.

SkapePhin
06-17-2005, 12:15 AM
Best Batman EVER!! Loved it! Had so much character depth! I was a big fan of the animated series on WB back in the mid 90s and this felt like that.. plus I read some of the Dark Knight graphic novels, and Ras was always one of my fave villains.

dolfreak
06-17-2005, 12:40 AM
This Batman movie is so great it leaves u wanting to see the future sequels, unlike other movies in the past that have been made into tons of sequels but the movies just suck !! (BATMAN 3 and 4,Superman 3, Star Treks, Scream, Resident EVil, Halloween, Anything with Freddy and Jason, ALiens, etc.)

Bale is a bad-a$$ as BATMAN. Unlike the previous Batman flicks, this BATMAN is SCARY! He makes any normal situation in a previous BATMAN film (in which Batman just jumps into the scene , breaks through a glass ceiling, etc. in all the previous movies) and turns it into a hunt. The criminals are the prey, and BATMAN is the predator. He brings this evil voice not only to cover up his "BRUCE WAYNE" VOICE and identity, but also to intimidate enemies.
http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

If you've seen the movie, BATMAN's voice on those Hallucinogen's is AWESOME!!! I'm happy that Warner Bros. and DC COMICS finally stepped up to the plate against the MARVEL MONOPOLY(which i love). I hope SUPERMAN RETURNS is just as good as this BATMAN flick. It's in good hands with Bryan Singer Directing, the genius that brought us THE USUAL SUSPECTS, XMEN1 and XMEN2.I'm looking forward to seeing this "unknown" guy BRANDON ROUTH playing Clark KEnt/SUPERMAN.

http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

SkapePhin
06-17-2005, 12:44 AM
All I know about the new Superman is that the actor playing Supes' greatest acting cred so far was for MTV's Undressed... :\

dolfreak
06-17-2005, 12:49 AM
unknowns are named that way for a reason. Who was Hayden Christensen before Star Wars?

Even Better: WHo was Christopher Reeves before Superman????

You take a chance with them and if it works out it's amazing(Reeves,Mark Hamill,HUGH JACKMAN!!!!!) but if it doesn't u flop!!

outtawack311
06-17-2005, 01:35 AM
I just got back from the movie. It was the best of the batman movies easy.

dolfreak
06-17-2005, 01:36 AM
I'm seeing it again on Saturday i Hope.

Buddwalk
06-17-2005, 02:15 AM
You guys really dont like nicholson do you?

Anyway im downloading this new batman thing pagan was telling me about and i'll see first hand if its any good! I'm gonna go see the new one saturday, and then i'll give a review on it

Raincheck downloading the new one tonight...I'll post a review after I watch it! :D

Pagan
06-17-2005, 07:16 AM
All I know about the new Superman is that the actor playing Supes' greatest acting cred so far was for MTV's Undressed... :\
All I know is that they made the costume look like it would be more at home with Richard Simmons wearing it....if you know what I mean.

Superman in a Speedo? :shakeno:

dolfreak
06-17-2005, 10:41 AM
You guys really dont like nicholson do you?


I love Nicholson, and he was perfectly cast as the Joker.....But the script made him a freaking clown. He wasn't used properly. Although it was entertaining to watch Jack as the "Clown Prince Of Gotham," he was nothing like the comic books. He wasn't menacing and he really wasn't a threat to BATMAN. His Goons did all the fighting and really all the fun. This was Burton's fault that he didn't make the Joker as EVil as the Penguin in part 2. Everytime the Joker was on screen it was like a freaking MUSIC VIDEO(the art gallery scene, the balloon parade). It's like casting Pierce Brosnan as James Bond(a perfect casting job) but with a crappy script (Die Another Day) you'll get Poo-Poo in the end. Brosnan in Goldeneye.....now that's how to do it.

Pagan
06-17-2005, 10:51 AM
Exactly....had Nicholson played the Joker with the same evil he used as Jack in "The Shining", it would have been a masterpiece of casting.

Muck
06-17-2005, 10:52 AM
Raincheck downloading the new one tonight...I'll post a review after I watch it! :D

BOOOO!!! :down:

Man, you need to watch this movie in the theater.

#1) so you can see it on the big screen, with the mack daddy sound system, and in the proper environment.

#2) the people who made this movie deserve to make money off of it. Anything I'm a big fan of, I make a point of paying for (music or movies). After I've paid to see it, yeah.....maybe I'll DL it. But I feel like they deserve my monitary support up front. In this case, there's an added bonus. I feel like my ticket, and others like it, helps convince the studio execs that another installment is in order. ;)

Do the right thing man!! :)

dolfreak
06-17-2005, 10:55 AM
( I feel like my ticket helps convince the studio execs that another film is in order.)
EXACTLY !! Go see it in the theatres man. Keep Hollywood Alive!!! It's like watching a Dolphins game at home....NO FUN!!!!

Noodle Arm
06-17-2005, 11:03 AM
All I know is that they made the costume look like it would be more at home with Richard Simmons wearing it....if you know what I mean.

Superman in a Speedo? :shakeno:

Superman will always look gay, it's just the nature of the suit. Even Reeve's suit looked flaming. :lol:

About Nicholson, I enjoyed his performance and laughed at his antics, but as many have said it just wasn't menacing enough.

As for the new Batman, hopefully I'll see it this weekend. I expect a pretty good box office weekend for it...probably in the $55 million+ range.

the movie that looks extremely crappy is that Fantastic 4 film. I think that one will bomb big time (it will have a good opening weekend, but drop off after that...like The Hulk did)

dolfreak
06-17-2005, 11:05 AM
Anyone ever seen Crispin Glover on ACID??? (McFly from Back to The Future and one of the rumored Joker's for the sequel) appearing on the David Letterman Show Years AGo.....click here to watch it, it's hilarious!!!!


Here it is (http://www.hugi.is/hahradi/bigboxes.php?box_id=51208&f_id=1283)

Muck
06-17-2005, 11:09 AM
the movie that looks extremely crappy is that Fantastic 4 film. I think that one will bomb big time (it will have a good opening weekend, but drop off after that...like The Hulk did)

It'll do well because it's a sci-fi flick and Jessica Alba's in it. I call that a nerd cocktail. :lol:

I'm afraid it's not gonna be good. Hope it is though.

Pagan
06-17-2005, 11:11 AM
Crispin Glover would be PERFECT as the Joker. :up:

dolfreak
06-17-2005, 11:12 AM
Superman will always look gay, it's just the nature of the suit. Even Reeve's suit looked flaming. :lol:
http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif
http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

I'd much rather wear the New Costume than the Old One. No red on it.

Muck
06-17-2005, 11:13 AM
Anyone ever seen Crispin Glover on ACID??? (McFly from Back to The Future and one of the rumored Joker's for the sequel) appearing on the David Letterman Show Years AGo.....click here to watch it, it's hilarious!!!!

Here it is (http://www.hugi.is/hahradi/bigboxes.php?box_id=51208&f_id=1283)

Holy **** dude. That is television gold right there!!

dolfreak
06-17-2005, 11:18 AM
Crispin Glover would be PERFECT as the Joker. :up:

What's the Joker Power Ranking for Now?:

Crispin Gloverhttp://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif
Lachy Hulmehttp://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif
Adrian Brodyhttp://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif
Mark Hamillhttp://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2005/06/mark_hamill_1-1.jpg
Vincent Gallohttp://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2005/06/gallo17ok-1.jpg
Paul Bettanyhttp://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif
Hugo Weavinghttp://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif
Edward Nortonhttp://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif
Tim Rothhttp://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif



i like Crispin Glover for the look, the acting is what i question. Adrian Brody looks the part and acts as good as anyone on that list. Lachy Hulme is the frontrunner according to various websites. Vincent Gallo just looks real mean in his headshots(a plus if your the joker).

Muck
06-17-2005, 11:28 AM
I agree. Crispin Glover would be PERFECT.

BTW - Crispin's middle name is 'Hellion'. The prophecy has been written. :tongue:

BTW2 - I just read that he actually sued Steven Spielberg.....AND WON.


he turned down an offer to reprise McFly in Back to the Future Part II (1989). The producers brought the character back to life by splicing together archived footage and new scenes (using an actor in prosthetic makeup). Glover, who hadn't given permission for his scenes to be recycled, sued _Future_'s producer, Steven Spielberg, and won. The case prompted the Screen Actors Guild to devise new regulations about the use of actors' images.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000417/bio

NaboCane
06-17-2005, 11:33 AM
I love Nicholson, and he was perfectly cast as the Joker.....But the script made him a freaking clown. He wasn't used properly. Although it was entertaining to watch Jack as the "Clown Prince Of Gotham," he was nothing like the comic books. He wasn't menacing and he really wasn't a threat to BATMAN. His Goons did all the fighting and really all the fun. This was Burton's fault that he didn't make the Joker as EVil as the Penguin in part 2. Everytime the Joker was on screen it was like a freaking MUSIC VIDEO(the art gallery scene, the balloon parade). It's like casting Pierce Brosnan as James Bond(a perfect casting job) but with a crappy script (Die Another Day) you'll get Poo-Poo in the end. Brosnan in Goldeneye.....now that's how to do it.


To paraphrase Nicholson: "This board needs an enema!"

:rofl3:

d-day
06-17-2005, 11:42 AM
Anyone ever seen Crispin Glover on ACID??? (McFly from Back to The Future and one of the rumored Joker's for the sequel) appearing on the David Letterman Show Years AGo.....click here to watch it, it's hilarious!!!!


Here it is (http://www.hugi.is/hahradi/bigboxes.php?box_id=51208&f_id=1283)

that wasn't acid - that was a performance piece he did ala andy kaufman - he would be a perfect joker probably because he is a joker - i think he's brilliant

dolfreak
06-17-2005, 11:43 AM
Crispin Gloverhttp://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2005/06/Crispin_Glover_Joker-1.jpghttp://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

dolfreak
06-19-2005, 12:17 PM
Anyone else see the Movie?

Dudeman
06-19-2005, 01:15 PM
it was awesome.....by far the best one...I'm definitely anxious to see the next one, but it'll be 2008 before it comes out I'm sure

Pagan
06-19-2005, 04:19 PM
Saw it Friday night. All I can say is, Tim Burton who??? :lol:

That was the REAL Batman...

Buddwalk
06-19-2005, 04:22 PM
BOOOO!!! :down:

Man, you need to watch this movie in the theater.

#1) so you can see it on the big screen, with the mack daddy sound system, and in the proper environment.

#2) the people who made this movie deserve to make money off of it. Anything I'm a big fan of, I make a point of paying for (music or movies). After I've paid to see it, yeah.....maybe I'll DL it. But I feel like they deserve my monitary support up front. In this case, there's an added bonus. I feel like my ticket, and others like it, helps convince the studio execs that another installment is in order. ;)

Do the right thing man!! :)

Looks like im gonna have to i downloaded it and checked it out and it lied to me...it was actually XXX 2...i didnt even both watching it and i just deleted it

I'll go as soon as i get a chance though

Predaphin
06-19-2005, 06:24 PM
Looks like im gonna have to i downloaded it and checked it out and it lied to me...it was actually XXX 2...i didnt even both watching it and i just deleted it

I'll go as soon as i get a chance though

:lol: it wasn;t batgirl does Gotham City by any chance, was it???

Predaphin
06-19-2005, 06:25 PM
I'm hearing good reviews left and right about this movie....haven't seen it myslef, but It'd be tough to beat the first batman....the Joker.

dolfreak
06-20-2005, 06:44 PM
The Joker was a "Joke" in part 1

DonShula84
06-20-2005, 07:10 PM
Looks like it isnt a definite that the movie will get a sequel. Hopefully it does well over these next couple weeks, because Id love to see Bale do another.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/050620f.php

dolfreak
06-20-2005, 11:45 PM
Batman Begins should make alot of money this following week(Tue-Sun) because the word is out that it's really good movie. It has no similarities to any of the previous Bat-Flicks, the main one being THE CAST.Not only is Christian Bale the BEST BATMAN EVER(Was the perfect "Suave billionaire playboy Bruce Wayne and a great Menacing and SCary BAtmAN!! Dude your getting a True Hollywood movie with actors of the caliber of: Morgan Freeman(One Of the Greats, And I loved Him Here!!) Michael Caine(GREAT ACTOR) Gary Oldman(GREAT ACTOR) Liam Neeson(RULED!!) Tom Wilkinson(Great Mafia Boss!!) Ken Watanabe(Last Samurai....'Nuff Said)Cillian Murphy a.k.a. Scarecrow(F**king Ruled!!) Rutger Hauer(Always an Evil Mother F**Ker!) and Katie Holmes(Tom Cruise Bangs Her). No More Silly Villains Like the the 1st Joker(Jack Nicholson was the perfect Joker but they made him a P*ss. He should of have been as mean as Devito's penguin was....shame on you Burton),Two-Face(didn't intimidate neone),Riddler(didn't intimidate neone, horrible "Mind-Sucking" Plan),Mr. Freeze(didn't intimidate neone).No More Neon Lights and Bat-Nipples, BATMAN is Back And He will Own You!!Chris Nolan Rules as a Director(MEMENTO, INSOMNIA) !!!!! Go See This!!!! Worth Your Buck!!!!

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2005/06/balecostume2-1.gif (http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/bale-costume-1.jpg)

_dan24
06-20-2005, 11:54 PM
I watched this last night. All I can say is, what a great movie! I loved it.

I cant wait until the next one comes out! I hope they do a good job with it.

dolfan4good
06-21-2005, 10:43 AM
I watched this last night. All I can say is, what a great movie! I loved it.

I cant wait until the next one comes out! I hope they do a good job with it.
I took my 4 year old to see it with me last night as well (father - son bonding thing). Best film of the 5 by far! I love the fact that they left their options wide open for the sequel by EDIT: DON'T SPOIL THE MOVIE FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T SEEN IT!!!!!!!!!!! Muck

Noodle Arm
06-21-2005, 10:57 AM
It's amazing that it makes $46 million during the weekend and it's considered a "disappointment" :shakeno: I wish I could make $46 million in 3 days. (actually it made $70 million + since it opened on Wednesday...but still they're saying the #'s are disappointing)

dolfreak
06-21-2005, 11:20 AM
Thats because everyone expected it to be garbage, like the other Batmans

Timmy54
06-21-2005, 08:54 PM
Batman Begins was definatley the best movie I have seen in a long time. I liked it over the Star Wars 3 that was pretty good, the longest yard (funny) and some others. This movie Rocked. Even my wife liked it and she really doesnt like too many of that kind of movie.

burton87
06-21-2005, 10:27 PM
Crispin Gloverhttp://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2005/06/Crispin_Glover_Joker-1.jpghttp://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif


Nice, I like it..

But the way Hollywood works maybe Johnny Deep??? He seems like he can play any character... :)

Pagan
06-22-2005, 06:26 AM
Nice, I like it..

But the way Hollywood works maybe Johnny Deep??? He seems like he can play any character... :)
Johnny Deep? That a porn star? :lol:

Depp wouldn't be able to play the part. He's too busy being in every movie Tim Burton makes. ;)

dolfreak
06-22-2005, 11:10 AM
I hope to see it again this weekend

rujpett?
06-22-2005, 03:51 PM
Now really thinking about batman...all the batman movies have had great casts but what I really meant is with the great casts none have turned out to be as good as the first...the 2nd was amazing with divito as the penguin and Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman

the 3rd one was crap...

Val Kimmer is the worst batman ever
Tommy Lee Jones was alright as twoface
Jim Carey sucked as the riddler [personally i felt the best riddler would have been in my mind Gene Wilder]

The 4th one was garbage as well

George Clooney was a pretty good batman but no where near as good as Michael Keaton
Arnold was horrible as Mr. Freeze
Alicia Silverstone as batgirl...haha gimmie a break
Uma Thurman as Poison Ivy...i like her but in this role someone else could be better

2nd one rocked...

1st one - Kim Basinger screamed (annoyingly) too much.

and the rest just bit the big one

dolfreak
06-22-2005, 10:23 PM
2nd one rocked...

1st one - Kim Basinger screamed (annoyingly) too much.

and the rest just bit the big one

I could've kicked the Joker's A$$ in the 1st one!!!

burton87
06-23-2005, 10:36 AM
I've seen it twice...

dolfreak
06-23-2005, 11:19 AM
I've seen it twice...

It's better the 2nd time around right?

Quelonio
06-23-2005, 01:23 PM
I hope to see it again this weekend

Is that a panasonic 24p? those cameras are sweeeeet! Did you hear that they are releasing a camera that is not only a 24p but also a HD in the same camera, man, sometimes I think Video is going to catch up with film.

I saw Batman yesterday, I actually saw it in an IMAX screen, pretty sweet, but I have a problem, I thought that the scenes that where character developkment where not only overstated (in that I did not need to see the same sequence nine times to know that if I fall i can get up) but also kind of corny, I thought it was a good movie, but that it missed some points to become a great, incredible fascinating wonderfull movie.

And I don't give it a leadway just because it is a comic book movie.

Jt0323
06-23-2005, 02:19 PM
Great movie... the reason its a great movie is b/c its not ment for 5 years olds...its more dark and not as cartoonish... its the best batman movie and hope they build on it...

dolfan4good
06-23-2005, 02:25 PM
Great movie... the reason its a great movie is b/c its not ment for 5 years olds...its more dark and not as cartoonish... its the best batman movie and hope they build on it...
From what I understand, (from a friend, of a friend, of my brother in law), Bale, Freeman and Caine have already signed on to do the next one. However, the producers did not want Katie Holmes back. Take it with a grain of salt.....

Jt0323
06-23-2005, 02:27 PM
I hope their is a Batman II...thay would be great...this is the best movie out this year...other than cinderella man which i thought was a great movie but it did not see to good... I think that has to do with the time it was released...it should of been released in the fall near oscer season....

burton87
06-23-2005, 02:33 PM
It's better the 2nd time around right?

AHhaha, no way, nothings better the second time around


Is that a panasonic 24p? those cameras are sweeeeet! Did you hear that they are releasing a camera that is not only a 24p but also a HD in the same camera, man, sometimes I think Video is going to catch up with film.




Is this the one your talking about???

http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif


That's what i just got.. ^^^ :)

dolfreak
06-23-2005, 05:05 PM
From what I understand, (from a friend, of a friend, of my brother in law), Bale, Freeman and Caine have already signed on to do the next one. However, the producers did not want Katie Holmes back. Take it with a grain of salt.....

KATIE HOLMES will not be back. I can Guarantee You That. If i'm Nolan im upping the ante on the sequel. A better actress(no Knock on Holmes, she was fine in BB) WILL be signed. He's staying true to the comics and he's bringing in relevant characters that really existed in the comic book pages.THank You Warner Bros. for finally getting it right!!

burton87
06-23-2005, 06:03 PM
KATIE HOLMES will not be back. I can Guarantee You That. If i'm Nolan im upping the ante on the sequel. A better actress(no Knock on Holmes, she was fine in BB) WILL be signed. He's staying true to the comics and he's bringing in relevant characters that really existed in the comic book pages.THank You Warner Bros. for finally getting it right!!


She said in a interview that she'd love to sign on for a sequel... Nolan would be a dumb piece of **** to replace her with a different actor when they make the 2nd one. That's not how hollywood works, especially during the production of a sequel to a blockbuster.

Maybe for the movie's sake it would be better, but it's to late now.

dolfreak
06-23-2005, 06:14 PM
She said in a interview that she'd love to sign on for a sequel... Nolan would be a dumb piece of **** to replace her with a different actor when they make the 2nd one. That's not how hollywood works, especially during the production of a sequel to a blockbuster.
Maybe for the movie's sake it would be better, but it's to late now.

The character of Rachel Dawes will not be back in the sequel so obviously Katie Holmes will not be in it.

dolfan4good
06-23-2005, 06:15 PM
The character of Rachel Dawes will not be back in the sequel so obviously Katie Holmes will not be in it.
Do you know which villain will be in the sequel?

rujpett?
06-23-2005, 06:18 PM
Do you know which villain will be in the sequel?

heard it was the Joker

dolfreak
06-23-2005, 06:24 PM
Joker and Two-Face (Harvey Dent is the new Gotham District Attorney, he'll become two-face in the movie)

burton87
06-23-2005, 06:26 PM
The character of Rachel Dawes will not be back in the sequel so obviously Katie Holmes will not be in it.


You have the script to the sequel??? :eek:

dolfan4good
06-23-2005, 06:27 PM
Joker and Two-Face (Harvey Dent is the new Gotham District Attorney, he'll become two-face in the movie)
Where are you finding this info?

rujpett?
06-23-2005, 06:30 PM
You have the script to the sequel??? :eek:

It's all over the media - apparently they're pissed off about all the Kate & Tom publicity overshadowing the actual Batman movie

dolfreak
06-23-2005, 07:10 PM
You have the script to the sequel??? :eek:

DARK HORIZONS (http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/050622e.php) reporting that Katie Holmes - Rachel Dawes in BATMAN BEGINS - has indeed been dropped from the upcoming sequel. Seemingly, Warner Bros. is not too happy about Ms. Holmes' lack of promotion of HER film this summer. And the report also says that Mr. Caine and Mr. Freeman have joined Christian Bale for the next Bat-flick.


Here's a report that I found over on DARK HORIZONS (http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/050622e.php). It seems Mr. Nolan may have spoken a bit about the BATMAN BEGINS sequel(s). Here's a bit--

"If David's writing it, Christian's still Batman, and everyone else is returning....me not returning would be like the only student of a graduating class skipping the big day to wash the car" said the British helmer.

He dropped some other hints such as "Like Begins, one clear cut villain isn't the plan [though]" and the likelihood of Robin appearing "The studio wasn't interested in Robin. We weren't either. This is a young Batman, so Robin's a few films....not for a few pictures anyway. Dick Grayson's still in a crib somewhere. I seriously doubt I will even be involved when Robin's in the franchise" says Nolan. Good stuff - if he actually said it. Which I think he did by the way as it gells with the scuttlebut I've been hearing. Including NO ROBIN. Good thinking - no need for him in this series

spydertl79
06-23-2005, 08:21 PM
Do you know which villain will be in the sequel?
If you saw the movie, you would know it has to be joker.

Jt0323
06-24-2005, 12:01 AM
yeah its goona be the Joker!

Quelonio
06-24-2005, 03:05 AM
AHhaha, no way, nothings better the second time around




Is this the one your talking about???

http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif


That's what i just got.. ^^^ :)


Man, now I'm jealous. If I only could have that. I would be shooting my *** off

dolfreak
06-24-2005, 11:50 AM
According a British reporter, a drunken Christian Bale at a movie release party revealed that Chris Nolan is courting Sean Penn to play the Joker in the next Batman film. However there's still some finessing to do because Sean's apparently unsure about 'taking' his buddy, Jack Nicholson's, role. Could be guff but it's another potential to add to the list.

dolfan4good
06-24-2005, 12:31 PM
If you saw the movie, you would know it has to be joker.
What part of the flick alluded to the Joker?

burton87
06-24-2005, 12:54 PM
What part of the flick alluded to the Joker?

I don't want to spoil it for those who havn't seen it, but unless your blind and deaf there is no way you could miss that part.

dolfreak
06-25-2005, 12:21 PM
http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

Predaphin
06-25-2005, 01:43 PM
I saw a bootleg copy of this movie last night....it was a good movie

dolfreak
06-25-2005, 08:19 PM
I saw a bootleg copy of this movie last night....it was a good movie

I used to DL movies too, but i like watching it in the theatres way better!! That's no way to experience a movie my friend...

Buddwalk
06-29-2005, 10:15 AM
Best movie i've seen all year including better than rots!

I saw it last night and it had me from the little childish antics of finders keepers to the kid falling in the well and getting scared ****less by the bats. The movie just continued to get better and better and better and finished very strong setting up for another one. The reason the joker in the next one is the cop comes up to batman and says this murderer has been going around and he leaves his calling card behind with him, The Joker!

Also i loved that they had the scarecrow, who was probobly the most underrated villian ever

They should have the penguin in one of the new ones but keep the penguin as danny devito...[he was born to play that part :lol: ]

dolfan4good
06-29-2005, 10:26 AM
The reason the joker in the next one is the cop comes up to batman and says this murderer has been going around and he leaves his calling card behind with him, The Joker!


I took my 4 year old to the flick and must have missed that line cause he doesn't stop aslking questions during the movie.

Roman529
06-29-2005, 02:22 PM
I saw the movie this weekend....I thought it was pretty decent.....Katie Holmes seems more like a high school girl than someone who could be a prosecutor though....I can't see why Tom Cruise is dating someone that young unless he is a perv? The movie was better than those directed by Tim Burton.

Terror
06-29-2005, 09:06 PM
Definately a great movie, I never knew the villians descended from those looneys in the looney bin. But they made the scarecrow a little wuss.

dolfreak
06-29-2005, 10:25 PM
But they made the scarecrow a little wuss.

In the comics he was a "feeble" psychiatrist, just how he was in the movie. Cillian Murphy did a good job, no complains here. That's why he Hides behind His "Scary Mask"

dolfreak
07-05-2005, 12:02 PM
This is a clip from the opening of the MTV Movie Awards, 2005. Batman, or is it Tankman?

Mediafetcher Link (http://mediafetcher.com/?p=114&page=2)

Tekanakou
07-05-2005, 12:32 PM
ok not that good

AirFishOne
07-05-2005, 04:43 PM
Well all the orginal actors/actresses have signed on for 2 more or possibly more sequels, depending on the sucess of the new one. All except katie Holmes due to her sudden engagment to Tom Cruise which stole attention from the movie. I think that is BS cause she was good in teh movie. N e way I read a rumour on the net the other night and it said teh Joker will be in it, no speculation on who will play him, and he will have the Scarecrow back cause he dissapeared at the end of the last flick. Also teh big rumour is that either Killer Croc or Clayface might make an apperance as teh other new villan.


Srry it is so long :D

Clark Kent
07-05-2005, 04:52 PM
Best movie i've seen all year including better than rots!

Whoa... Let's not go that far.

I saw it and really liked it. I thought the series should have died when I first heard about it. However, this movie had substance and wasn't the usual superhero movie.

However, Katie Holmes SUCKED. She really took away from this movie, IMO (she did do that Dawson show, so no surprise).. She was bland and boring. She was as bad as Kirstin Dunst in Spiderman.

If they wanted a pretty face, go get a Keira Knightley or something (anyone who can act).

dolfreak
07-05-2005, 09:50 PM
Whoa... Let's not go that far.

I saw it and really liked it. I thought the series should have died when I first heard about it. However, this movie had substance and wasn't the usual superhero movie.

However, Katie Holmes SUCKED. She really took away from this movie, IMO (she did do that Dawson show, so no surprise).. She was bland and boring. She was as bad as Kirstin Dunst in Spiderman.

If they wanted a pretty face, go get a Keira Knightley or something (anyone who can act).

You gotta admit, Batman Begins is a top 3 movie this year.

SMadison29
11-01-2005, 02:05 AM
I bought a copy of this yesterday & it was surprisingly good. I haven't liked any of the previous Batmans, well the first two anyway. Christian Bale pulls off a great job as the young dark Batman. Hopefully the sequel won't disappoint.

Gonzo
11-01-2005, 02:28 AM
I bought a copy of this yesterday & it was surprisingly good. I haven't liked any of the previous Batmans, well the first two anyway. Christian Bale pulls off a great job as the young dark Batman. Hopefully the sequel won't disappoint.

I think thats what held it back more than anything (though it was at the top when out). Everyone thought it was just another in the series instead of a completely new take on the story. While it alludes to the first one (slightly), it has nothing to do with the other crap that came out.

Last I heard Nolan wants Sean Penn as the next...villain. It would definetly be a darker take on him...though I can only imagine the whining that would take place.

Gonzo
11-01-2005, 02:29 AM
Whoa... Let's not go that far.

I saw it and really liked it. I thought the series should have died when I first heard about it. However, this movie had substance and wasn't the usual superhero movie.

However, Katie Holmes SUCKED. She really took away from this movie, IMO (she did do that Dawson show, so no surprise).. She was bland and boring. She was as bad as Kirstin Dunst in Spiderman.

If they wanted a pretty face, go get a Keira Knightley or something (anyone who can act).

I will agree with him, better than ROTS.

Also, Knightly can't act worth a damn either. Selma Blair would be interesting though...

Quelonio
11-01-2005, 02:31 AM
I think thats what held it back more than anything (though it was at the top when out). Everyone thought it was just another in the series instead of a completely new take on the story. While it alludes to the first one (slightly), it has nothing to do with the other crap that came out.

Last I heard Nolan wants Sean Penn as the next...villain. It would definetly be a darker take on him...though I can only imagine the whining that would take place.

I think that the burton ones where very much a product of their time. Just like the new one is, they feed in perfectly to the feelings and needs and likes that people had in the 80's or in the 00's. Which is great. Schumacher has no defense, his are just awful.


I think someone mentioned Adrien Brody, he would be fine as the joker.

SMadison29
11-01-2005, 02:36 AM
Everyone thought it was just another in the series instead of a completely new take on the story. While it alludes to the first one (slightly), it has nothing to do with the other crap that came out.

I didn't know that. That's good to know. I thought Batman was okay & Batman Returns was so-so, didn't watch Batman Forever & Batman & Robin because they got such horrible ratings. They also had, what, 3 different actors to play Batman for those 4 movies. Hurts the continuity. I like Christian Bale from what I've seen of him (the other movie was Reign of Fire). It's nice that he's sticking around.

Gonzo
11-01-2005, 02:36 AM
I think that the burton ones where very much a product of their time. Just like the new one is, they feed in perfectly to the feelings and needs and likes that people had in the 80's or in the 00's. Which is great. Schumacher has no defense, his are just awful.


I think someone mentioned Adrien Brody, he would be fine as the joker.

I agree on Brody. I also wouldn't mind seeing Ralph Fiennes as Two Face (going with dark). From what I read, the only reason Penn is hesitant is because he is friends with Nicholson, and that is apparently some kind of dumb rule in Hollywood.

Gonzo
11-01-2005, 02:40 AM
I didn't know that. That's good to know. I thought Batman was okay & Batman Returns was so-so, didn't watch Batman Forever & Batman & Robin because they got such horrible ratings. They also had, what, 3 different actors to play Batman for those 4 movies. Hurts the continuity. I like Christian Bale from what I've seen of him (the other movie was Reign of Fire). It's nice that he's sticking around.

Have you seen Memento or American Psycho? Memento is Christopher Nolan's (the director) first big movie. Awesome, yet strange movie, if you like that kind of stuff. Probably the most original approach I have seen in a while. American Psycho is Bale's first big movie, and one of my favorites. I think its hilarious, but I am a little strange... Nolan also did Insomnia with Pacino and Robin Williams.

You will definetly see why this one was darker (like the comics).

Quelonio
11-01-2005, 02:41 AM
You know when you watch something and theres is something very small and stupid that annoys you through the whole movie? Well that happened with me in this one. IT was Bale's lips, for some reason to me he looked like he had his lips puckered up, all through the movie and I thought it made him look ridiculous, especially as Batman, kinda like a conceited spoiled batman. It drove me crazy.

Alas, a small thing not that important. But i figured I would mention it.

SMadison29
11-01-2005, 02:46 AM
You know when you watch something and theres is something very small and stupid that annoys you through the whole movie? Well that happened with me in this one. IT was Bale's lips, for some reason to me he looked like he had his lips puckered up, all through the movie and I thought it made him look ridiculous, especially as Batman, kinda like a conceited spoiled batman. It drove me crazy.

Alas, a small thing not that important. But i figured I would mention it.

LOL, you must be extremely picky with your women like me then.

Quelonio
11-01-2005, 02:48 AM
LOL, you must be extremely picky with your women like me then.

Yes, little things annoy me a lot. THey say it is because I am a Virgo, and that comes with the personality. But yes I'm picky. :cry:

SMadison29
11-01-2005, 03:06 AM
Yes, little things annoy me a lot. THey say it is because I am a Virgo, and that comes with the personality. But yes I'm picky. :cry:


I with ya.

Pagan
11-01-2005, 08:33 AM
You know when you watch something and theres is something very small and stupid that annoys you through the whole movie? Well that happened with me in this one. IT was Bale's lips, for some reason to me he looked like he had his lips puckered up, all through the movie and I thought it made him look ridiculous, especially as Batman, kinda like a conceited spoiled batman. It drove me crazy.

Alas, a small thing not that important. But i figured I would mention it.
After Michael Keaton and Val Kilmer? Those two looked like Paul Stanley from KISS under the mask.

Bale was incredible.

Whatsdatson20
11-01-2005, 02:03 PM
After Michael Keaton and Val Kilmer? Those two looked like Paul Stanley from KISS under the mask.

Bale was incredible.


Hahaha, yeah Val Kilmer was really bad. I always loved Micheal Keaton in batman. I think he was the best out of em all. Bale was really good though. But whoever plays the joker has huge shoes to fill. Im sorry, but Jack raised the bar miles above. Good luck to the actor who takes that role.

Quelonio
11-01-2005, 02:06 PM
After Michael Keaton and Val Kilmer? Those two looked like Paul Stanley from KISS under the mask.

Bale was incredible.

I'm not saying he was a bad batman, he was a good batman, I don't think I would pick someone else. But his mouth bothers me...

Whatsdatson20
11-01-2005, 02:28 PM
I'm not saying he was a bad batman, he was a good batman, I don't think I would pick someone else. But his mouth bothers me...


:lol: I know what you mean.:lol: I thought I was the only one.

Pagan
11-01-2005, 03:01 PM
Hahaha, yeah Val Kilmer was really bad. I always loved Micheal Keaton in batman. I think he was the best out of em all. Bale was really good though. But whoever plays the joker has huge shoes to fill. Im sorry, but Jack raised the bar miles above. Good luck to the actor who takes that role.
I've said this before in here, Nicholson was a MESS as the Joker. He played the character ALL wrong. The Joker wasn't a bumbling buffoon, but a rail-thin psychopath. If you want to see what the Joker SHOULD look like, download the short movie "Batman: Dead End". Do a google search for it, it's a long download, but worth it.

Nicholson played the Joker not as the Joker, but as Nicholson. You want to talk abouty something bothering you in a movie, watching Jack play him as a chubby old man was REALLY troubling.

And Michael Keaton as Batman? A thin, skrawny short man playing the Dark Knight? MR. MOM as Batman?

Man, you guys accept these two and then worry about Bale's LIPS??? :lol:

Quelonio
11-01-2005, 03:49 PM
I've said this before in here, Nicholson was a MESS as the Joker. He played the character ALL wrong. The Joker wasn't a bumbling buffoon, but a rail-thin psychopath. If you want to see what the Joker SHOULD look like, download the short movie "Batman: Dead End". Do a google search for it, it's a long download, but worth it.

Nicholson played the Joker not as the Joker, but as Nicholson. You want to talk abouty something bothering you in a movie, watching Jack play him as a chubby old man was REALLY troubling.

And Michael Keaton as Batman? A thin, skrawny short man playing the Dark Knight? MR. MOM as Batman?

Man, you guys accept these two and then worry about Bale's LIPS??? :lol:

Hey, everyone's opinion, trust me watch the movie, he looks like he is a spoiled little batman. He looks like the Yuppie in American Psycho pouting around playing Batman.

If I appreciated Keaton and Nicholson as Batman and Joker it mainly was because (as you can see with my age) I was really young when I watched those movies. And they worked for me. I liked them, and as such I remembered them as good.

Bale came at a time when I am more critical about film, and I did inform you that it was one of my pet peeves. Not that it was a thoughtfull analysis, just that for some reason, that annoys me.

Pagan
11-01-2005, 04:36 PM
Hey, everyone's opinion, trust me watch the movie, he looks like he is a spoiled little batman. He looks like the Yuppie in American Psycho pouting around playing Batman.
I've seen the movie, twice in the theater and I have the DVD. I don't know, I like him as Batman. From reading the comics for over 30 years, he's the closest thing to what the Batman is supposed to be to me. You're right though, it's all opinion.


If I appreciated Keaton and Nicholson as Batman and Joker it mainly was because (as you can see with my age) I was really young when I watched those movies. And they worked for me. I liked them, and as such I remembered them as good.
This is kind of funny, cause you'd think I'd like them also. I grew up with the goofy TV Batman! :lol:


Bale came at a time when I am more critical about film, and I did inform you that it was one of my pet peeves. Not that it was a thoughtfull analysis, just that for some reason, that annoys me.
Understood. ;)

Gonzo
11-01-2005, 09:26 PM
I've said this before in here, Nicholson was a MESS as the Joker. He played the character ALL wrong. The Joker wasn't a bumbling buffoon, but a rail-thin psychopath. If you want to see what the Joker SHOULD look like, download the short movie "Batman: Dead End". Do a google search for it, it's a long download, but worth it.

Nicholson played the Joker not as the Joker, but as Nicholson. You want to talk abouty something bothering you in a movie, watching Jack play him as a chubby old man was REALLY troubling.

And Michael Keaton as Batman? A thin, skrawny short man playing the Dark Knight? MR. MOM as Batman?

Man, you guys accept these two and then worry about Bale's LIPS??? :lol:

I agree with you one hundred percent. While I liked Nicholson's take, it was his performance that I liked, not his resemblance to the real Joker (or complete lack thereof). Funny how Nicholson has a tendency to do play parts in movies that have very little to do with their sources (The Shining, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Batman) that still end up being good on their own. However, I am really not looking forward to the whining when Nolan goes with a Joker more in tune with the comic, i.e. darker, psycho, etc. Few batman villains were as evil as the Joker, with him being one of the few that have actually killed those close to Batman. I can't wait.

Also, Dead End was awesome.

Quelonio
11-01-2005, 09:35 PM
I know it is not exactly related to this thread, but didn't darren aronofsky sign to direct a new batman?? whatever happened to that... It would have been incredibly weird.

Gonzo
11-01-2005, 09:51 PM
I know it is not exactly related to this thread, but didn't darren aronofsky sign to direct a new batman?? whatever happened to that... It would have been incredibly weird.

Yeah, he was the going to be the director back when it was Batman: Year One. He was also supposed to direct The Watchmen, but not anymore. He has been working on The Fountain for what seems like forever though.

And no worries, it is related ;) . Year One became Begins.