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Megatron
07-30-2005, 12:52 PM
Let's keep it that way. Lately there has been a real aggressive element on here. I don't know if it comes from frustration from last year or what. But basically there has been alot of aggressive posts towards people that don't see this new team as the second coming of Christ. It's everyones team people and not everyone is going to see things the same way. Let's try to actually discuss our differences of opinion rather than telling people to find another team. Come on the Dolphins are still a class organization shouldn't their fanbase be classy as well? I think we are, let's prove it.:D

heffer111
07-30-2005, 12:53 PM
Good Morninggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg Vietnam!

Fin Fan in Cali
07-30-2005, 12:59 PM
Let's keep it that way. Lately there has been a real aggressive element on here. I don't know if it comes from frustration from last year or what. But basically there has been alot of aggressive posts towards people that don't see this new team as the second coming of Christ. It's everyones team people and not everyone is going to see things the same way. Let's try to actually discuss our differences of opinion rather than telling people to find another team. Come on the Dolphins are still a class organization shouldn't their fanbase be classy as well? I think we are, let's prove it.:DWell said Brother!:drinkers:

Trackstar
07-30-2005, 01:00 PM
Nice post Mega.

King Nate
07-30-2005, 01:01 PM
You stay classy, Miami. I'm kingnate85?

Rocky Raccoon
07-30-2005, 01:03 PM
You stay classy, Miami. I'm kingnate85?

:lol:

Muck
07-30-2005, 01:05 PM
I mentioned this very thing earlier this morning in a private conversation.

We need to be more adult and civil (even if you're not an adult). The rudeness and childish antics irritate the you know what outta me.

We are to treat each other in a respectable manner.

ether79
07-30-2005, 01:07 PM
Let's keep it that way. Lately there has been a real aggressive element on here. I don't know if it comes from frustration from last year or what. But basically there has been alot of aggressive posts towards people that don't see this new team as the second coming of Christ. It's everyones team people and not everyone is going to see things the same way. Let's try to actually discuss our differences of opinion rather than telling people to find another team. Come on the Dolphins are still a class organization shouldn't their fanbase be classy as well? I think we are, let's prove it.:D
Hey I agree with Megatron.;) Good post man, couldn't agree more.

MoFinz
07-30-2005, 01:08 PM
I second that emotion :lol:

NY_FinFan_72
07-30-2005, 01:09 PM
Let's keep it that way. Lately there has been a real aggressive element on here. I don't know if it comes from frustration from last year or what. But basically there has been alot of aggressive posts towards people that don't see this new team as the second coming of Christ. It's everyones team people and not everyone is going to see things the same way. Let's try to actually discuss our differences of opinion rather than telling people to find another team. Come on the Dolphins are still a class organization shouldn't their fanbase be classy as well? I think we are, let's prove it.:D

Agreed. I found FinHeaven out of frustration with other places where I used to post over this exact issue.

Here's what happens. Everyone just starts bashing each other, no one wants to post anymore out of fear of being flamed, the opinions become watered down and few, and before you know it all that's left are a bunch of aggressive idiots who's sole purpose for being here is to argue and take the opposite stance.

I don't think FinHeaven is near that level yet, but I do see some of that element here, and it is growing, not shrinking.

I'm on the site 24/7, literally. I'm not a real frequent poster, but I read just about every thread, and occasionally throw my 2 cents in.

The point is, the less aggressive the site is, the more people there will be posting (not lurking), and that will mean more opinions, finformation, etc.

Everyone has the right to express their thoughts and opinions, that's why the site is here. The more welcome the environment, the more posters we will have and the better the site will be.

We are SUPPOSED to have different takes and different opinions people. That's what it's all about (along with the hokey-pokey). :lol:

Good post Megatron.

Megatron
07-30-2005, 01:09 PM
I mentioned this very thing earlier this morning in a private conversation.

People need to be more adult and civil (even if you're not an adult). The rudeness and childish antics irritate the you know what outta me.

We are to treat each other in a respectable manner.It's true what you say Muck. Now I kid around on here more than anyone I think, but I have noticed a really harsh edge to some of our comments, myself included. I think it was in one of the threads where someone compared us to Jets fans, that was the final straw because I knew they were right. We were acting like obnoxious pricks and not even bothering to hide it. That gave me pause and prompted this thread.

Fin Fan in Cali
07-30-2005, 01:10 PM
Hey I agree with Megatron.;) Good post man, couldn't agree more.What's up? Heading to Del Mar Race Track today to check out the ponies. Will be trying to check out the hotties there at the track on the down low.

ether79
07-30-2005, 01:13 PM
What's up? Heading to Del Mar Race Track today to check out the ponies. Will be trying to check out the hotties there at the track on the down low.
Hey whats up bro. Not much here, havn't been to that track before I'll have to check it out next time I'm out there.

shellgh0st
07-30-2005, 01:13 PM
Let's keep it that way. Lately there has been a real aggressive element on here. I don't know if it comes from frustration from last year or what. But basically there has been alot of aggressive posts towards people that don't see this new team as the second coming of Christ. It's everyones team people and not everyone is going to see things the same way. Let's try to actually discuss our differences of opinion rather than telling people to find another team. Come on the Dolphins are still a class organization shouldn't their fanbase be classy as well? I think we are, let's prove it.:D

Good post. However, I take it you are one of the people that isnt optimistic about this year? I come away thinking that because you failed to mention how pessimistic posters have come out and insulted people in posts. You are right that people should carry themselves better. But, it should be said that those who arent optimistic have come out and called fans "crazy drunk" or "dumb" if I remember correctly. Maybe you didnt see that post and that is why your post makes no mention of how people on both sides arent exactly carrying themselves with class. Although, I agree with your assessment, and there is no point in insulting anyone.

Fin Fan in Cali
07-30-2005, 01:15 PM
Hey whats up bro. Not much here, havn't been to that track before I'll have to check it out next time I'm out there.Too bad you weren't out here, my niece, and some of her hot friends are coming too. I am looking forward to spending some quality time with the father in law, and getting to the bottom of a few cold ones! We will have to get together for the Charger game when your out here.

Megatron
07-30-2005, 01:15 PM
Good post. However, I take it you are one of the people that isnt optimistic about this year? I come away thinking that because you failed to mention how pessimistic posters have come out and insulted people in posts. You are right that people should carry themselves better. But, it should be said that those who arent optimistic have come out and called fans "crazy drunk" or "dumb" if I remember correctly. Maybe you didnt see that post and that is why your post makes no mention of how people on both sides arent exactly carrying themselves with class. Although, I agree with your assessment, and there is no point in insulting anyone. No you're right about that for sure. My post above should clarify a little bit more, I mean all sides I was just giving an example, biased for sure.;)

ether79
07-30-2005, 01:18 PM
Too bad you weren't out here, my niece, and some of her hot friends are coming too. I am looking forward to spending some quality time with the father in law, and getting to the bottom of a few cold ones! We will have to get together for the Charger game when your out here.

For sure, I can barely wait anymore for that game to get here!

Wagon Circler
07-30-2005, 01:25 PM
Let's keep it that way. Lately there has been a real aggressive element on here. I don't know if it comes from frustration from last year or what. But basically there has been alot of aggressive posts towards people that don't see this new team as the second coming of Christ. It's everyones team people and not everyone is going to see things the same way. Let's try to actually discuss our differences of opinion rather than telling people to find another team. Come on the Dolphins are still a class organization shouldn't their fanbase be classy as well? I think we are, let's prove it.:D
Or telling the people with another team to find another board. ;)

Megatron
07-30-2005, 01:27 PM
Or telling the people with another team to find another board. ;) Well I wouldn't go that far.;) We're taking baby steps here.:lol:

MDFINFAN
07-30-2005, 01:27 PM
Or telling the people with another team to find another board. ;)

I wouldn't do that WC, only when you make me mad with facts I can't defend... :lol:

WharfRat
07-30-2005, 01:30 PM
I mentioned this very thing earlier this morning in a private conversation.

We need to be more adult and civil (even if you're not an adult). The rudeness and childish antics irritate the you know what outta me.

We are to treat each other in a respectable manner.

:yeahthat:

I concur.

Personally, I think that over-agressiveness should be dealt with more.... agressively. I may start giving "time-outs" to those who can't be more civil and mature in their posts.

Megatron
07-30-2005, 01:31 PM
:yeahthat:

I concur.

Personally, I think that over-agressiveness should be dealt with more.... agressively. I may start giving "time-outs" to those who can't be more civil and mature in their posts. Maybe create a dunce cap avatar for them while they're taking a break.:lol:

Wagon Circler
07-30-2005, 01:32 PM
I wouldn't do that WC, only when you make me mad with facts I can't defend... :lol:
:lol::lol::lol:

ether79
07-30-2005, 01:33 PM
Maybe create a dunce cap avatar for them while they're taking a break.:lol:
:rofl3: That would be sweet.

welderpat
07-30-2005, 01:37 PM
:yeahthat:

I concur.

Personally, I think that over-agressiveness should be dealt with more.... agressively. I may start giving "time-outs" to those who can't be more civil and mature in their posts.


I'll be cival,I usualy am, But I'll be damned if I will be mature :D :D

burghPhinFan
07-30-2005, 01:37 PM
remember, as Finheaven grows (exponentially it seems as of late) your A**hole to good poster ratio will grow accordingly. So it seems we're right on course!!!!!

Noodle Arm
07-30-2005, 01:39 PM
Good post Mega. I mess around with you a lot, but it's always been in jest.

I think a lot of it has to do with the different types of fans on here. We all want the same goal, the Phins to win, but some handle it different than others. the so called "homers" try to stay optimistic no matter what, while the so called "realists" claim to look at things with a more neutral eye. Unfortunately the difference in opinions are bound to clash at some point.

YES there are a few members here who try to be overly negative just to get a rise out of people, and YES there are some members on here who could find a postive in just about anything to the point where it gets annoying. I guess the goal is to try and debate these opinions in a more mature manner instead of using the old "go be a bills fan!" or "You're a homer if you think this team will win 8 games this season" and so on.

Blah whatever..I'm just rambling now. I'll stop :lol:

Megatron
07-30-2005, 01:40 PM
Good post Mega. I mess around with you a lot, but it's always been in jest.

I think a lot of it has to do with the different types of fans on here. We all want the same goal, the Phins to win, but some handle it different than others. the so called "homers" try to stay optimistic no matter what, while the so called "realists" claim to look at things with a more neutral eye. Unfortunately the difference in opinions are bound to clash at some point.

YES there are a few members here who try to be overly negative just to get a rise out of people, and YES there are some members on here who could find a postive in just about anything to the point where it gets annoying. I guess the goal is to try and debate these opinions in a more mature manner instead of using the old "go be a bills fan!" or "You're a homer if you think this team will win 8 games this season" and so on.

Blah whatever..I'm just rambling now. I'll stop :lol: Nope you hit it right on the head.

NJFinFury2004
07-30-2005, 01:43 PM
Mega, I somewhat agree. 99 pct of my posts are all football related until a Jills or Crop Duster fan annoys me and I fire away. See the Feeley or Ferrote thread. Sometimes its difficult to sit by and watch some snot nosed goober try and run smack and he is a fan from another team.

I am optomistic this year, than again I usually am. There is a difference in my optomism this season, I look back at an 11-5 team from 2000 and really think this one is more talented. The problem is so are the other teams in the AFC EAST. I still think if we get a few breaks and play solid football, its not unreasonable we could win 10 games and I or no other Fin Fan should be attacked or BASHED for that. Especially by a JILLS or Crop Duster fan, if that happens, I feel its my duty as a DIEHARD Finatic to protect the innocent and the American Way.

Also, people from the North East are a little more agressive than the people from the South East. And maybe thats what we need. Instead of saying agressive, why not use assertive? I think Zach Thomas had made positive comment about FinFans from New Jersey and I think I read it on this site.

IM not condoning acting like an a$$, which sometimes I can do. I'll admit that. But being a little more assertive? Nothing wrong with that. I fly out every year for a Fin game at Pro-Player and drive the 15 mins to the Meadowlands to see the Fins play. I have been at some GREAT GAMES. And have always held my own there.

I haven't been to Buffalo, but after watching them on here they might be just as bad or worse than CropDuster fans! I was at the fake spike game and had to be escorted out by security, yes thats true. For what? Because there were thousands of Jets fans behind me breaking my stones the whole game, and after the REF put his hands up, I LET THEM HAVE IT! There were maybe 1,000 fin fans at that game but spread all over the place.

BY THE WAY. BOTH TEAMS WERE 6-5.. The jets lost like 10 games in a row after that and Pete was fired! LOL!

A little off track there.. But the point is. I SEE NOTHING wrong with being a little more assertive as long as you know the sport, which I do. I hope this season all Fin fans at the game are more assertive ( We are labeled soft) by many other fans around the league. I hope we are the true 12th man this year.

Just my opinion.. But I respect yours.

coach72
07-30-2005, 01:43 PM
"By the beard of Zeus.":goof:

Megatron
07-30-2005, 01:51 PM
Just my opinion.. But I respect yours. Right back at ya.

NJFinFury2004
07-30-2005, 02:02 PM
If you guys read that whole Feeley vs Ferrote thread, yes they are some good points made by a Buffalo fan. He basically says Ferrote is too old to carry us long term and if Feeley didn't win the job this season, that would be it for him.

When I TOSSED out names like Trent Dilfer ( Which is a perfect fit for this topic since we will be a defensive based team) He doesn't answer, only gets rude and ignorant and deserved to be "BASHED"

Everyone of the JILLS FANS posts are "NEGATIVE" They get old and tired. Someone else mentions Feeley is somewhat a rookie and no QB in the NFL could have been a success behind Miami's O line, no running game, a lame duck coach a offensive coordinator with no experience and learning a new system. That's also a very good point that wasn't answered intelligently, once again the JILLS fan resorted to comon name calling, as if we couldn't do the same to him.

I brought up Dilfer because realistically, Ferrote could be the same QB for us. If he can play until age 36, which isnt too much to ask for, if the Defense is top 5 and Ronnie and Ricky are together next year ( Which I think they will be) we could very well win a Superbowl with Gus Ferrote.

Top 5 defense, Top 5 running game and with a great TE and above avg WR'S we only need a QB to make plays for us, thats it. Not someone like Manning who will throw the ball 45 times a game. We need someone that can convert on a 3rd and 7 when the rare occasion happens when Ricky and or Ronnie were stuffed. We need someone who can hit an open Chris Chambers or David Boston 45-50 yards downfield on a 1st and 10 when the oppositions D is creeping towards the line of scrimmage thinking run.

There is no reason why this can't be done.

RonnieExpress
07-30-2005, 02:07 PM
You have to sift through piles of drivel and nonsense threads to get even the slightest bit of quality posting.

It's the best site on the net for quick info, and camp reports, but for me the boards are almost useless otherwise.

Megatron
07-30-2005, 02:08 PM
The point is there's a place for sparring on this site. I'm not going to lie to you, I've flamed a rival fan myself quite a few times. But there's some good football knowledge in there too. Justa used to really chat up football alot on here, not so much now, not sure why. Wagon Circler has a pretty even view of football. Losman7 posts to get a rise out of us alot, but he does know his team pretty well player by player. Most of the rival fans that end up here often start out trolling a bit but end up providing an outsiders opinion of our team, sometimes that is the most clear opinion whether we like it or not.

Megatron
07-30-2005, 02:09 PM
You have to sift through piles of drivel and nonsense threads to get even the slightest bit of quality posting.

It's the best site on the net for quick info, and camp reports, but for me the boards are almost useless otherwise. It wasn't always that way, I think there are quite a few people on here that would like to see that change.

MDFINFAN
07-30-2005, 02:10 PM
I'll be cival,I usualy am, But I'll be damned if I will be mature :D :D


:rofl3: :rofl3:

MDFINFAN
07-30-2005, 02:20 PM
The point is there's a place for sparring on this site. I'm not going to lie to you, I've flamed a rival fan myself quite a few times. But there's some good football knowledge in there too. Justa used to really chat up football alot on here, not so much now, not sure why. Wagon Circler has a pretty even view of football. Losman7 posts to get a rise out of us alot, but he does know his team pretty well player by player. Most of the rival fans that end up here often start out trolling a bit but end up providing an outsiders opinion of our team, sometimes that is the most clear opinion whether we like it or not.

Well said Megatron...we get into spat conversations when someone takes a jab, instead of ignoring it, we jump all over it. You can force a poster to stay on point by sticking to the subject and ignoring the jab..everyone is entitled to a jab every once and awhile. We all have different views of our team, sometimes I think the homers are overwhelming, but it's their team and I understand the excitement...but when you try to talk factual, or as you see it factual football, and someone calls you a non fan, or fan of another team, that does go over the limit to me. I've never called a fan, a non fan for not thinking like me. I love to debate and I try to see if what I see is the same though others eyes. Sometimes I might miss something that they see. Our fans have to understand we use this board to discuss our views and they're not going to be all pro for a situation. That doesn't mean we don't love our phins, because all of us do. There's a lot of posters who were really good not here anymore or have moved on. I miss them.

Megatron
07-30-2005, 02:23 PM
Well said Megatron...we get into spat conversations when someone takes a jab, instead of ignoring it, we jump all over it. You can force a poster to stay on point by sticking to the subject and ignoring the jab..everyone is entitled to a jab every once and awhile. We all have different views of our team, sometimes I think the homers are overwhelming, but it's their team and I understand the excitement...but when you try to talk factual, or as you see it factual football, and someone calls you a non fan, or fan of another team, that does go over the limit to me. I've never called a fan, a non fan for not thinking like me. I love to debate and I try to see if what I see is the same though others eyes. Sometimes I might miss something that they see. Our fans have to understand we use this board to discuss our views and they're not going to be all pro for a situation. That doesn't mean we don't love our phins, because all of us do. There's a lot of posters who were really good not here anymore or have moved on. I miss them.That was the reason the boys started this site, to discuss their favorite team. That's why most of us joined, and why it's important that we remember that.

BBsuck
07-30-2005, 03:06 PM
Why cant we have a Dolphins fans only forum???we have everything else.trade your crap,smack, no smack semi smack ..Its just hard to hear or read another fans opinions and respect it when its usually an opinion instead of a fact. Ok we stunk last year can we move on now...I have noooo problem reading OUR fans different opinions,I like hearing the other side from OUR fans... I just wish there was a place to go without all of the other fans 2 cents..can some one a (MOD) please explain why not..we can still go to the main forum if we like ..just an idea..:cool:

Megatron
07-30-2005, 03:19 PM
Why cant we have a Dolphins fans only forum???we have everything else.trade your crap,smack, no smack semi smack ..Its just hard to hear or read another fans opinions and respect it when its usually an opinion instead of a fact. Ok we stunk last year can we move on now...I have noooo problem reading OUR fans different opinions,I like hearing the other side from OUR fans... I just wish there was a place to go without all of the other fans 2 cents..can some one a (MOD) please explain why not..we can still go to the main forum if we like ..just an idea..:cool: There would be no way to do it, people could still troll. On my hockey teams website they have a very strick policy in regards to posts being team related and will boot any rival fan for starting threads not specifically team related. Wharfrat and the boys are a little more easy going than that, but mind you there are alot more people on here.

VanDolPhan
07-30-2005, 03:22 PM
I mentioned this very thing earlier this morning in a private conversation.

We need to be more adult and civil (even if you're not an adult). The rudeness and childish antics irritate the you know what outta me.

We are to treat each other in a respectable manner.

That's a moderation issue. Longer a moderator is around generally I find they get more and more lax. Moderators need to nip that sort of behaviour in the butt right off the bat with new users. A kind of "shape up or ship out" type attitude as this site grows or you'll find the inmates will be running the prison so to speak.

Dubfire
07-30-2005, 03:54 PM
Let's keep it that way. Lately there has been a real aggressive element on here. I don't know if it comes from frustration from last year or what. But basically there has been alot of aggressive posts towards people that don't see this new team as the second coming of Christ. It's everyones team people and not everyone is going to see things the same way. Let's try to actually discuss our differences of opinion rather than telling people to find another team. Come on the Dolphins are still a class organization shouldn't their fanbase be classy as well? I think we are, let's prove it.:D


Si. :yes:

It's the trolls that stir **** up all the time. As long as the regulars leanr to ignore them, all is cool. Disagreements are always going to arise. I mean who the hell would post on a board where everyone agrees with everything you say? That'd be kinda weird. Twilight Zone type stuff.

WharfRat
07-30-2005, 04:04 PM
Maybe create a dunce cap avatar for them while they're taking a break.:lol:

Not a bad idea... if they're going to be sitting in the proverbial corner, they may as well dress for the occasion! ;)

WharfRat
07-30-2005, 04:07 PM
That's a moderation issue. Longer a moderator is around generally I find they get more and more lax. Moderators need to nip that sort of behaviour in the butt right off the bat with new users. A kind of "shape up or ship out" type attitude as this site grows or you'll find the inmates will be running the prison so to speak.

I agree that it's a moderation issue, however, the way I see it is that the ratio between members and staff has become more and more lopsided. It's harder to monitor every member when we have more activity every day. :cool:

Noodle Arm
07-30-2005, 04:31 PM
I agree that it's a moderation issue, however, the way I see it is that the ratio between members and staff has become more and more lopsided. It's harder to monitor every member when we have more activity every day. :cool:

That can be remedied by recruiting more mods *coughlookoverherecough*
:D

MikeO
07-30-2005, 04:38 PM
Gotta go PREMIUM.

Have a special section to where when people PAY $$$$ they get to go to the PREMIUM area of the message boards.

Then you let the FREE boards run wild, hence enticing people to sign up and pay for the PREMIUM area. If Bills/Jets/ Pats or whoever fans show up on the free boards, then so be it. But you KNOW FOR A FACT only the die-hard Fin-Fans will be in the PREMIUM area of the message board since it costs $$$$$ to get there.

Have people pay $30 a year. Give them access to the PREMIUM MESSAGE BOARD, throw them a t-shirt, a few other special bells and whistles and that's all it takes.

The whole PREMIUM thing could be put together in about 2 hours.It's really not that difficult.

Just my .2 cents what do I know.

MikeO
07-30-2005, 04:48 PM
Not to mention on the PREMIUM board you know since you are paying, that odds are they age range will be 18 and up. Since not many kids have credit cards or will be able to pay to become premium members.

Hence, stopping the "WHO IS YOUR FAVORITE PLAYER" threads. ANd the..."I HOPE THE WEAR ORANGE JERSESY" threads and the mindless babble like that.

Dubfire
07-30-2005, 04:50 PM
Gotta go PREMIUM.

Have a special section to where when people PAY $$$$ they get to go to the PREMIUM area of the message boards.

Then you let the FREE boards run wild, hence enticing people to sign up and pay for the PREMIUM area. If Bills/Jets/ Pats or whoever fans show up on the free boards, then so be it. But you KNOW FOR A FACT only the die-hard Fin-Fans will be in the PREMIUM area of the message board since it costs $$$$$ to get there.

Have people pay $30 a year. Give them access to the PREMIUM MESSAGE BOARD, throw them a t-shirt, a few other special bells and whistles and that's all it takes.

The whole PREMIUM thing could be put together in about 2 hours.It's really not that difficult.

Just my .2 cents what do I know.

For someone who is going to be come a Premium member soon (I love this site and want to support its growth), melikes the idea. :yes: :clap:

BBsuck
07-30-2005, 05:28 PM
Gotta go PREMIUM.

Have a special section to where when people PAY $$$$ they get to go to the PREMIUM area of the message boards.

Then you let the FREE boards run wild, hence enticing people to sign up and pay for the PREMIUM area. If Bills/Jets/ Pats or whoever fans show up on the free boards, then so be it. But you KNOW FOR A FACT only the die-hard Fin-Fans will be in the PREMIUM area of the message board since it costs $$$$$ to get there.

Have people pay $30 a year. Give them access to the PREMIUM MESSAGE BOARD, throw them a t-shirt, a few other special bells and whistles and that's all it takes.

The whole PREMIUM thing could be put together in about 2 hours.It's really not that difficult.

Just my .2 cents what do I know.


Must be you know whats on alot of our minds, I am all for this idea..man now that would be great..Sign me up NOW..Lets do it.

FIN-IN-RI
07-30-2005, 05:37 PM
ummm... :lol:

BrazForPhins
07-30-2005, 06:01 PM
the "press coverage episode" and most replies given to the girl that asked to be convinced to be a phin fan sums it up..sometimes people have not very kind behave around here even though it's natural of the human being having trouble with differences. I guess u gotta think twice before bashing something or someone..think, what does that add to the forum?
Anyway, there's much of classy behaving here..
I was kind of afraid to be part of this, thought some would think I don't really care for the phins..I'm glad that I'm treated just like any other fan (phin fan :D)

FIN-IN-RI
07-30-2005, 06:13 PM
I say you make a detention forum. When someone acts up you move him/her there for a while (24-28 hrs to a week) Those ppl in detention can only view/post in that forum. This gives staff the opportunity to cite the TOS violation and for the member to apologize. It works.

Megatron
07-30-2005, 11:26 PM
That can be remedied by recruiting more mods *coughlookoverherecough*
:D Mod-atron has a nice ring to it.:lol:

Boik14
07-30-2005, 11:55 PM
I think the homer to non homer ratio has grown so exponentially on this board that anytime someone says something that 1 person hates, the rest of the homers or non homers see it the same way. Anytime something bad is brought up about anyone on the phins someone gets their panties in a bunch.

Quit being so damn sensitive. Some of the people in this thread saying that people are too aggressive in their posting are some of the biggest problems in this regard. Theyre the ones saying it should be less aggressive yet when someone tries the post theyre the ones who always have something to say.

In response to 1 poster earlier: There are other perspectives from teams that play us twice a year and for the most part theyre constructive. Just because its a dolphins message board, it doesnt mean that people who are fans of other teams do not have the right to an opinion which in many cases is backed up by fact from people like wagon, losman, nycjunc, and a few of the pats fans. I love the phins but i like the outside opinions even if they dont agree with the majority of the fans on this board. Real fans are willing to acknowledge that all their players are not perfect and that is not the case on this board; people do not acknowledge that. Instead some of the Phin fans on this board just ramble mindlessly about how great certain players are yet for some reason I see that our record last year indicates that they couldnt have been that good.

From what my own experience has been, people cannot handle criticism of the phins at all. You say something bad about a player and substantiate why he stinks or why he has a particular weakness or give reasons not to like someone and people cant respect your opinion. So of course someone will get defensive and aggressive. Its annoying when you give legit reasons and all someone can say is "well i still like so and so and hes great".

Every aggressive post ive ever made on this board has been when ive given an opinion on Aj Feeley and every aggressive post i have ever been on the receiving end of has been in defense of AJ. Maybe we should have no more AJ/Gus threads? It seems thats where a lot of the problems start!

Doktor Ivel
07-31-2005, 12:34 AM
i love this site.
hey, how do you become a premium member?? how much does it cost?

byroan
07-31-2005, 12:37 AM
I agree that it's a moderation issue, however, the way I see it is that the ratio between members and staff has become more and more lopsided. It's harder to monitor every member when we have more activity every day. :cool:

You know how to help solve that right? :wink:

byroan
07-31-2005, 12:38 AM
I mentioned this very thing earlier this morning in a private conversation.

We need to be more adult and civil (even if you're not an adult). The rudeness and childish antics irritate the you know what outta me.

We are to treat each other in a respectable manner.

Yeah, that last thread about convincing someone to become a fan was horrible.

Fin Fan in Cali
07-31-2005, 12:52 AM
Bottom line is it;s okay to disagree. However you handle it with good communication and tact, and don't go out of your way to try to belittle anyone individual. It's up to us to continue to make Finheaven a great site for Dolphin fans to share there views. If we don't take out the negativity, as in shooting down our own fans in a bad way, this site will become just like all the rest. keep the peace, and enjoy each others views, because if we as Dolphin fans don't stick together, divided we will fall.

MikeO
07-31-2005, 12:57 AM
Bottom line is it;s okay to disagree. However you handle it with good communication and tact, and don't go out of your way to try to belittle anyone individual. It's up to us to continue to make Finheaven a great site for Dolphin fans to share there views. If we don't take out the negativity, as in shooting down our own fans in a bad way, this site will become just like all the rest. keep the peace, and enjoy each others views, because if we as Dolphin fans don't stick together, divided we will fall.

very true. I firmly believe this message board has so many members that it needs to be SPLIT up.

Have a premium area for Dolphins Talk where the die-hards (who need less moderation and would be paying $$$) can go and talk among themsleves. Then have the free Dolphins talk area where anyone under the sun can go.

It would save the MOD's a bunch of work. It would raise money for the site and cover operating expenses. It would work out best for the die-hards who keep this site up and running and those are the one's you want to keep happy.

Fin Fan in Cali
07-31-2005, 12:59 AM
very true. I firmly believe this message board has so many members that it needs to be SPLIT up.

Have a premium area for Dolphins Talk where the die-hards (who need less moderation and would be paying $$$) can go and talk among themsleves. Then have the free Dolphins talk area where anyone under the sun can go.

It would save the MOD's a bunch of work. It would raise money for the site and cover operating expenses. It would work out best for the die-hards who keep this site up and running and those are the one's you want to keep happy.:drinkers:

Fin Fan in Cali
07-31-2005, 01:08 AM
I try to enjoy, and have fun with my fellow brotherin, and sisterin here at finheaven, but I have too noticed some smack talk going on where they are just going out of there way to make another member look like cra@, and that's not right. I am for Mike O's idea. People need to remember we are here for one reason our love, devotion, and dedication to our team, The Miami Dolphins!:beerbang:

Megatron
07-31-2005, 01:13 AM
I try to enjoy, and have fun with my fellow brotherin, and sisterin here at finheaven, but I have too noticed some smack talk going on where they are just going out of there way to make another member look like cra@, and that's not right. I am for Mike O's idea. People need to remember we are here for one reason our love, devotion, and dedication to our team, The Miami Dolphins!:beerbang:How true, and seeing how I brought this to everyones attention, I'd expect a small kickback from that premium member loot.:cool:

Fin Fan in Cali
07-31-2005, 01:16 AM
How true, and seeing how I brought this to everyones attention, I'd expect a small kickback from that premium member loot.:cool:It will be in in beer, however you have to come down to So. Cal to collect! Anytime my friend you are welcome, and they are on me! Bring Mike O with you too.:beerbang:

Megatron
07-31-2005, 01:20 AM
It will be in in beer, however you have to come down to So. Cal to collect! Anytime my friend you are welcome, and they are on me! Bring Mike O with you too.:beerbang: Your on, where's Oceanside anyway?

Fin Fan in Cali
07-31-2005, 01:22 AM
Your on, where's Oceanside anyway?35 Miles north of San Diego. Lately it feels like the east coast with all the humidity we have been having.

Fin Fan in Cali
07-31-2005, 01:27 AM
Off of the 5 freeway, down the 78 east a couple of miles.

Megatron
07-31-2005, 01:27 AM
35 Miles north of San Diego. Lately it feels like the east coast with all the humidity we have been having. You know what, if I can get a cheap flight this fall I'll come down to watch a game with ya even if it's just on the tube. Never been to San Diego before and I need a vacation in the worst way. I'll stay in touch.

Fin Fan in Cali
07-31-2005, 01:29 AM
You know what, if I can get a cheap flight this fall I'll come down to watch a game with ya even if it's just on the tube. Never been to San Diego before and I need a vacation in the worst way. I'll stay in touch.You got it! The garage is set up for football, and Hooters is right down the street. Anytime, keep in touch!:beerbang:

Dolphinlife
07-31-2005, 01:30 AM
I check finheaven every day now. I have been a loyal dolphin fan most of my life for about 16 years now. I am 23 years old and am stationed in the army in doral fl inside miami. I love the phins and this site puts together a bunch of hardcore phins fans. Great site

Fin Fan in Cali
07-31-2005, 01:32 AM
I check finheaven every day now. I have been a loyal dolphin fan most of my life for about 16 years now. I am 23 years old and am stationed in the army in doral fl inside miami. I love the phins and this site puts together a bunch of hardcore phins fans. Great siteThanks for serving our country, and checking in on finheaven!

Megatron
07-31-2005, 08:19 AM
You got it! The garage is set up for football, and Hooters is right down the street. Anytime, keep in touch!:beerbang:I'm in for sure and MikeO would be a blast to have on hand. PM him and see if he's in, it would be off the hook, and good times to be sure.

fin-atic
07-31-2005, 08:38 AM
Megatron:
Since I am the one who made the Jets fan comparison, I really agree with this positon you have taken. It is what has always made Finheaven so good.You could get news and really have great conversations about the team. That is why I come here as many times a day as I can.

Does this mean you want insult my columns so agressively now?

Megatron
07-31-2005, 08:43 AM
Megatron:
Since I am the one who made the Jets fan comparison, I really agree with this positon you have taken. It is what has always made Finheaven so good.You could get news and really have great conversations about the team. That is why I come here as many times a day as I can.

Does this mean you want insult my columns so agressively now?Well even a blind squirrel finds a nut from time to time, so I guess you may have some good points to say.:lol: J/K. Nah that comment you made was a slap in the face for me, and lord knows I needed it. It made me realize what a prick I had been to good people on here, and inspired me to start a thread about cutting the mean stuff out.

fin-atic
07-31-2005, 08:49 AM
Well let me be the first to welcome you to the sunny side of the street!

For my part I spent the past two years drenched in negativity. The whole Wanny/Fielder thing became a campaign that I could not escape from. Even when I would try to take the high road and be nice about it, I would get bombarded by supporters of that regime. So for seven months now I have been able to enjoy being a Fin fan again on this site. Who know where this team will go, but we are making all the right moves and it is exciting.

But I have observed the same things you have. With the growht of this site has come a lot of new people. I think they are use to behaving a certain way on other sites. But that's not what we are about here.

I really respect and applaud your position on this. It says a lot about the man you are.

Count me among the Megatron fans now.

Cheers.

Megatron
07-31-2005, 08:52 AM
I'm in for sure and MikeO would be a blast to have on hand. PM him and see if he's in, it would be off the hook, and good times to be sure. Christ we should get DD28, NJfinfan1, and Noodle Arm plus anyone else and have a mini-Finfan convention in sunny San Diego. That would be great, take over your local Hooters for a Sunday. They wouldn't know what hit them.:lol:

Megatron
07-31-2005, 08:56 AM
Well let me be the first to welcome you to the sunny side of the street!

For my part I spent the past two years drenched in negativity. The whole Wanny/Fielder thing became a campaign that I could not escape from. Even when I would try to take the high road and be nice about it, I would get bombarded by supporters of that regime. So for seven months now I have been able to enjoy being a Fin fan again on this site. Who know where this team will go, but we are making all the right moves and it is exciting.

But I have observed the same things you have. With the growht of this site has come a lot of new people. I think they are use to behaving a certain way on other sites. But that's not what we are about here.

I really respect and applaud your position on this. It says a lot about the man you are.

Count me among the Megatron fans now.

Cheers. Thanks buddy, but thanks again for spelling it out so well.

cnc66
07-31-2005, 09:45 AM
...good thread Megatron, this needed to be said and you did it well. I also like MikeO's comments on a separate "pay" site for interested posters. I too am guilty of conduct unbecoming and regret it. I jumped on a new Buffalo guy the other day for no good reason when I should have simply not responded. I welcome other team people, they keep me from being to big a homer...out loud anyway, but you would not have known that from my post. Most of the regular "enemy" posters are a pleasure to read and poke at. Some of them are my favorites and have the funniest sense of humor on the board. I think really we are our own worse enemy here, cheap shots and derisive comments amongst ourselves. I will try to improve my own attitude.
. .One thing that bugs the sh!t outa me is all the worthless "new threads".The constant thread creation by people with 20 posts is annoying. I vote for some sort of post minimum for your first thread, or at least a limit on how many you may create within a given amount of time. I like the dunce hat idea too, even knowing that I'll likely be wearing it someday.
. .The responses from our fans to the "help me decide" thread was embarressing. I am truley shocked at the mean spirited responses, I really am. We are presently the friggen laughing stock of the NFL, coming off a 4-12 season and yet we collectivly treated someone willing to come get dirty and be ridiculed with us like the were a Leper and unworthy. How sad. Before long we will be seeing tons of new fans... after we become winners again. Bandwagonners, fair weather fans, ya know what I say? I say good, I've never in my life seen to many Miami Dolphin Jerseys, stickers or flags. The more the merrier. I am comforted when surrounded by agua and orange. I don't even care if they lie about how "hardcore" they are. Quit hateing on each other. Wear the colors, fly the flag, sing the song. Go Fins !

RonnieExpress
07-31-2005, 09:51 AM
I agree with the premium member thing. I think another problem is we have lost some quality posters. I lurked here for a long time, and so many of the quality guys are gone from the old days.

Dolphan39? I think the dude used to even be a mod here. Gone. Wharf, you hardly post anymore at all. Finheaven AJ only when he has stuff to announce. Dolphan87 just disappeared. Baz?

I know I am forgetting a ton more, but you get the point. It's those guys (and all the rest i just can't think of right now) who we have lost that makes this place seem more like a kiddie camp, and less like Dolphin camp.

I honestly don't have a solution. The premium member thing might work, but I sure hope the main boards don't become like the ESPN or old Herald forums.

cnc66
07-31-2005, 09:53 AM
I honestly don't have a solution. The premium member thing might work, but I sure hope the main boards don't become like the ESPN or old Herald forums.

good ol' RayRay

Megatron
07-31-2005, 01:19 PM
Well Wharfrat, Muck et al. Sounds like people are going to try harder to be good hosts on here. More football less foot in balls.