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JohnnyMeasley
11-11-2002, 12:34 AM
Is that three Miami losses in a row? Least this one was close. . . to the Jets.

*Snicker.*

WisconsinFan
11-11-2002, 12:42 AM
ROFL yes Ricky Fumbleman Williams

thefisherking
11-11-2002, 12:44 AM
Jets own Miami......up yours Wharfrat you gaywad.

12 times baby
11-11-2002, 12:47 AM
Swishy Ricky fumbles away a TD, and they lose by three points. I wonder if they are still gonna lean on Ray Lucas as their excuse. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Pierpont_Weaver
11-11-2002, 01:05 AM
Boring game between two mediocre teams. I imagine ESPN was disgusted they got stuck airing that dog.

I imagine the suck-up so called "Bill's Fans" in here are really upset the Phins -- obviouisly their real favorite team the -- lost. Oh well, they'll recover.

dolfan06
11-11-2002, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by 12 times baby
Swishy Ricky fumbles away a TD, and they lose by three points. I wonder if they are still gonna lean on Ray Lucas as their excuse. :lol: :lol: :lol: how can anybody possibly think anything but ray, the only td the friggin jets got was on a lucas turnover. and there is no mistake, that was a td by chambers, he came down with possession and the ground cannot cause a fumble. the refs took that game, plain and simple!:yell:

Pierpont_Weaver
11-11-2002, 01:15 AM
Not that it has anything to do with the actual play as it was CORRECTLY called, but the ground can sure can cause a fumble expansion fan.

It can't cause a fumble if the player is being touched down, but if it pops out without another player touching him as he flops over it is a fumble.

JohnnyMeasley
11-11-2002, 01:19 AM
The most exciting part of that game was when the two broadcasters were arguing over who's turn it was to talk.

dolfan06
11-11-2002, 01:29 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pierpont_Weaver
[B]Not that it has anything to do with the actual play as it was CORRECTLY called, but the ground can sure can cause a fumble expansion fan.

EXSPANSION FAN! i've been a dolphin fan longer than you've been on this earth. the ground can't cause a fumbe, besides that has little or no consequences on the play in question. there was possession, and both feet came down in bounds. as soon as the feet touched, the play was over. the play was not called correctly.
the fins were robbed on two plays, ricky williams had a knee on the ground before the ball came loose. that was another score lost!:yell:

JohnnyMeasley
11-11-2002, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by dolfan06
i've been a dolphin fan longer than you've been on this earth.
Since 1970?

dolfan06
11-11-2002, 01:44 AM
Originally posted by JohnnyMeasley
Since 1970? since 1965, the dolphins first year was 1966, but the franchise was awarded to joe robbie and danny thomas in 65! :p

JohnnyMeasley
11-11-2002, 03:29 AM
Originally posted by dolfan06
the franchise was awarded to joe robbie and danny thomas in 65!
That's a tradition not seen since the Mariners.

Sabre Ally
11-11-2002, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by Pierpont_Weaver
Not that it has anything to do with the actual play as it was CORRECTLY called



Exactly...what don't the rest of you get about this? IT was ruled an incomplete pass, so Why the hell are you talking about fumbles? :confused:

Pierpont_Weaver
11-11-2002, 04:13 AM
Expansion fan,

1965? Oh, yea... there was some sort of silly minor league around back then wasn't there? Called the AFL or something? Uhhh... real pro football is considerably older than that expansion fan.

And yes, the ground CAN cause a fumble. Many folks, who get their football knowledge from football announcer's cliches, don't realize that. The ground can't cause a fumble when a player is being downed. However, if a player who is not in the act of being downed falls and the ball jars loose it is most certainly a fumble.

BTW, in the play you're whining about the ball jarred loose when he hit the ground OUT OF BOUNDS. Hence, incompletion. Would you like them to call a fumble every time a plaer dived for a pass and the ball got jarred loose when they hit the ground? Often times, if you just change the context of the play you'll see quite clearly why the refs call it the way that they do.

Besides, even if it was a bad call, why whine about it? It wasn't at the very end of a game, but early enough that had the Phins offense -- oh, say... PLAYED offense, the call (if you think it was bad) could have been overcome.

The Dolphins lost because their offense was non-existent, not because of a single call early in the game.

dolfan06
11-11-2002, 04:53 AM
Originally posted by Pierpont_Weaver
Expansion fan,

1965? Oh, yea... there was some sort of silly minor league around back then wasn't there? Called the AFL or something? Uhhh... real pro football is considerably older than that expansion fan.

And yes, the ground CAN cause a fumble. Many folks, who get their football knowledge from football announcer's cliches, don't realize that. The ground can't cause a fumble when a player is being downed. However, if a player who is not in the act of being downed falls and the ball jars loose it is most certainly a fumble.

BTW, in the play you're whining about the ball jarred loose when he hit the ground OUT OF BOUNDS. Hence, incompletion. Would you like them to call a fumble every time a plaer dived for a pass and the ball got jarred loose when they hit the ground? Often times, if you just change the context of the play you'll see quite clearly why the refs call it the way that they do.

Besides, even if it was a bad call, why whine about it? It wasn't at the very end of a game, but early enough that had the Phins offense -- oh, say... PLAYED offense, the call (if you think it was bad) could have been overcome.

The Dolphins lost because their offense was non-existent, not because of a single call early in the game. but you moron, the player was down, when his feet touched in bounds.
and there was plenty of offense, with the two tds taken away, that would have made it 24-10. does that score sound familiar, it was what that powerhouse pack won by!
the announcers said that the best offense for the jets, was the refs:yell:

and the call was overcome, the refs couldn't overturn a williams fumble and the one we scored!

Pierpont_Weaver
11-11-2002, 05:02 AM
Once again, context is everything. Put that same play on the sideline and have the player land and lose the ball -- or even bobble it -- but the pass called complete. IT DOESN'T GET CALLED THAT WAY.

You ought to be concerned about your offense, not the officiating.

BTW, if you think there is any resemblence to the Packers/Phins game and that snoozer you had last night you're really mired in Homerland. The Pack clobbered you guys, and a couple of penalties were certainly never a concern to a team with an offense.

JohnnyMeasley
11-11-2002, 05:05 AM
Originally posted by dolfan06
the announcers said that the best offense for the jets, was the refs!
Typical TV rating psychobabble.

dolfan06
11-11-2002, 05:08 AM
Originally posted by Pierpont_Weaver
Once again, context is everything. Put that same play on the sideline and have the player land and lose the ball -- or even bobble it -- but the pass called complete. IT DOESN'T GET CALLED THAT WAY.

You ought to be concerned about your offense, not the officiating.

BTW, if you think there is any resemblence to the Packers/Phins game and that snoozer you had last night you're really mired in Homerland. The Pack clobbered you guys, and a couple of penalties were certainly never a concern to a team with an offense. CLOBBRED US! what in the hell are you putting in your pipe? 30-3, thats clobber. 24-10 with a defensive td thrown in, thats........................i don't know what you call it, but ray threw that game away too!:rolleyes:

a couple of penalties, you are dillusional!:rolleyes:

Chauncey
11-11-2002, 08:33 AM
It's still a L, so clobbered or not, it's all semantics.

BTW, the rule is the receiver has to have clear posesssion of the ball when going out of bounds. He juggled it & that's what the ref saw when reviewing the play.

The ground can't cause a fumble, but you have to possess the ball to be able to fumble it. :rolleyes:

3W
11-11-2002, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by JohnnyMeasley
Typical TV rating psychobabble.

Wow..good insight!!;)

Pierpont_Weaver
11-11-2002, 03:00 PM
[qoute]The ground can't cause a fumble, but you have to possess the ball to be able to fumble it.[/quote]

Try this one more time... ok, what happens if a player is running down the field in the open, trips over his feet, hits the ground and the ball pops loose? Dead play when he hasn't been downed?

The ground can cause a fuimble, just not when a player is being downed.

dolfan06
11-11-2002, 10:44 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chauncey
It's still a L, so clobbered or not, it's all semantics.

BTW, the rule is the receiver has to have clear posesssion of the ball when going out of bounds. He juggled it & that's what the ref saw when reviewing the play.

The ground can't cause a fumble, but you have to possess the ball to be able to fumble it. :rolleyes: [/QUOTEbobbled the ball after the feet touched!:rolleyes:

WharfRat
11-12-2002, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by thefisherking
Jets own Miami......up yours Wharfrat you gaywad.

A split isn't "owning" anyone....

I won't comment on the second part of this post... as that would be a personal attack. :rolleyes: