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DolfanDaveInATX
09-27-2005, 10:36 AM
If I read the cap page, we would get about $200,000 in cap room from cutting him now. ($810,000 salary savings - $610,000 dead cap.)

I assume we would also have a $3 million cap charge next year from accelerating the rest of his signing bonus, but what do the base salaries look like in the rest of that contract?

Philter25
09-27-2005, 11:19 PM
his base salaries escalate.


check out nflpa.org for his salaries.

If he wasnt the starting CB next year, he would be the first one cut. A nickeback should never touch the kind of deal he signed.

ZIG~ZAG
09-27-2005, 11:23 PM
Yep....Stupid Stupid move from the Prior regime...:shakeno:

Clumpy
09-28-2005, 01:51 AM
He's a vested veteran, his salary is guaranteed. No savings

His release saves no cap space. His bonus amortization from 2006-2009 accelerates onto 2006 cap

dolphan117
09-29-2005, 08:17 PM
He's a vested veteran, his salary is guaranteed. No savings

His release saves no cap space. His bonus amortization from 2006-2009 accelerates onto 2006 cap

How much of a hit would it be? And would it save us money in the long run as opposed to cuting him next year?

DolfanDaveInATX
09-30-2005, 11:18 AM
Based on Clumpy's analysis, Howard's cap figure this season will be the same, whether he is on our roster or not.

Based on NFLPA's data, releasing him would result in a net cap hit of $1 million next year -- the $3 million of his signing bonus that would be accelerated minus the $2 million of base salary we would not have to pay -- as compared to a $2.75 million hit if he is still on our roster.

Therefore, I think Saban keeps him buried on our bench the rest of this year and then dumps him afterwards.

Merman
09-30-2005, 02:14 PM
Reggie Howard 's 2006 information known now.

2006
Base Salary $1.00 million
Roster Bonus 1.250
proration......0.750

Cap charge $3.00 million

Dead money
if traded or
released
on or before
6/01/06 $3.00 million

Cap savings -0-

DolfanDaveInATX
09-30-2005, 04:30 PM
According to NFLPA, Howard's base salary is $2 million, not $1 million. We don't have to pay him that if he's not on our roster for opening day. And if we dump him early enough in the offseason, we don't have to pay him the 2006 roster bonus.

Merman
09-30-2005, 06:07 PM
According to NFLPA, Howard's base salary is $2 million, not $1 million. We don't have to pay him that if he's not on our roster for opening day. And if we dump him early enough in the offseason, we don't have to pay him the 2006 roster bonus.

Yes the base salary for next year is $2 million. I looked at the wrong cell. That yields a $1 million cap savings if he is traded or release on or before 6/01/06.

It has to be an unusual situation for a Roster Bonus not to be a LTBE bonus and charged to Team Salary.

If Howard is released before the roster bonus and the regular season base salary are paid his cap charge is still part of Team Salary until he is released because at $4 million it will be part of the 51 highest contracts charged starting the first day of the New Year.

So his cap charge of $4 million comes off but then the dead money of $3 million is charged.

The net savings will be a little less because the 52nd highest salary would replaced Howard's and whatever that contract is in effect reduces the cap savings. It's usually in the $305k range.

Divine
12-02-2005, 10:47 PM
According to NFLPA, Howard's base salary is $2 million, not $1 million. We don't have to pay him that if he's not on our roster for opening day. And if we dump him early enough in the offseason, we don't have to pay him the 2006 roster bonus.

Yeah, but we still owe him the amoritized bonuses for the remainder of his contract which would still be a $3 million cap hit for 2006. So would we save anything? No. Plus we would still need to "$ADD$" another salary on top of that to replace him which would be even more money against the 2006 cap space. Our best bet is to talk to him about re-structuring and keep him as the 5th CB behind "Madison's replacement" (which we can add with the $3.4 million we can free up by cutting Madison after June 1st to help sign), W.Poole, T.Daniels, and S.Mitchell. Look for this to happen. Potential CBs for next year:

RCB-C.Woodson
LCB-W.Poole
NB-T.Daniels
DB-R.Howard
CB-S.Mitchell

Merman
12-03-2005, 12:49 AM
Yeah, but we still owe him the amoritized bonuses for the remainder of his contract which would still be a $3 million cap hit for 2006. So would we save anything? No. Plus we would still need to "$ADD$" another salary on top of that to replace him which would be even more money against the 2006 cap space. Our best bet is to talk to him about re-structuring and keep him as the 5th CB behind "Madison's replacement" (which we can add with the $3.4 million we can free up by cutting Madison after June 1st to help sign), W.Poole, T.Daniels, and S.Mitchell. Look for this to happen. Potential CBs for next year:



An amortized bonus is never owed it is charged to Team Salary on a prorata basis, as it was already paid.

If Howard is released next year or traded there is a $1 million gross cap savings. Look at the computation where I made a mistake in base salary and add a million to the base salary.

A contract restructure reduces current Team Salary by moving the cap charge to the future. A salary reduction and/or an agreement to forgo a roster bonus reduces Team Salary.

Ruderic
02-28-2006, 09:58 PM
The team may save money but not much against current cap.