![]() |
| Enjoy an Ads-Free FinHeaven - lighter and faster too! Join VIP! |
|
Have a question? Our experts have the answer! |
|||||||
Happy Birthday to:
cs11372, kcarl, Greydolfin, jackass, louloudar, WPB-FinFan, pmoon6, salsero60, gws111, gel369, WFUDolphinsfan, roundhay park, BEAST, tricky8803, sbhj2001, knarf08, flipper, theghost, martingale, miamidphins72, boozie_chang, phil t, Irish76, bela6, phil, SomeDude64, Springveldt, PYPER, PhotoFin, FinZ71, Pat_Rat, willrok, ShaunRamon, shtanner8, biguy_41, Cryin H2ONaCl, LordTrychon, ChuckNorris13, aLiEnFrEaK, cuse123, mylo24, silvrwrx, tithom1, Cinquan, miadolfphan, mrphatt, M2malic, ViktorialHDY, snatch, younbpinch05, Gnixon, bigdaddy7805, Webb78OLman, crazyskater52, nonameanon, SexyMexi
|
|
Welcome to FinHeaven Fans Forums! We're glad to have you here. Please feel free to browse the forum. We'd like to invite you to join our community; doing so will enable you to view additional forums and post with our other members.
|
![]() |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
|
#1 | ||||
|
Seasoned Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 618
Thanks: 13
Thanked 20 Times in 14 Posts
![]() |
A depressing look back at the NFL draft since 2000Class of 2000
Rd2 #53 Todd Wade Rd3 #84 Ben Kelly Rd4 #117 Deon Dyer Rd5 #152 Arturo Freeman Rd6 #167 Ernest Grant Rd 7 # 232 Jeff Harris Class of 2001 Rd1 #26 Jamar Fletcher Rd2 #52 Chris Chambers Rd3 #85 Travis Minor Rd3 #88 Morlon Greenwood Rd5 #156 Shawn Draper Rd6 #164 Brandon Winey Rd6 #177 Josh Heupel Rd6 #187 Otis Leverette Rd6 #188 Rick Crowell Class of 2002 Rd3 #90 Seth McKinney Rd4 #114 Randy McMichael Rd5 #161 Omare Lowe Rd5 #170 Sam Simmons Rd7 #241 Leonard Henry Class of 2003 Rd2 #49 Eddie Moore Rd3 #78 Wade Smith Rd3 #87 Taylor Whitley Rd5 #156 Donald Lee Rd6 #181 Corey Jenkins Rd6 #209 Tim Provost Rd6 #213 Yeremiah Bell Rd7 #248 Devern Williams Class of 2004 Rd1 #19 Vernon Carey Rd4 #102 Will Poole Rd5 #160 Tony Bua Rd6 #174 Red Hadnot Rd7 #221 Tony Pape Rd7 #222 Derrick Pope Class of 2005 Rd1 #2 Ronnie Brown Rd2 #46 Matt Roth Rd3 #70 Channing Crowder Rd4 #104 Travis Daniels Rd5 #162 Anthony Alabi Rd7 #216 Kevin Vickerson Class of 2006 Rd1 #16 Jason Allen Rd3 #82 Derek Hagan Rd4 #114 Joe Toledo Rd7 #212 Fred Evans Rd7 #226 Rod Wright Rd7 #233 Devin Aromashodu Class of 2007 Rd1 #9 Ted Ginn Jr Rd2 #40 John Beck Rd2 #60 Samson Satele Rd3 #71 Lorenzo Booker Rd4 #108 Paul Solial Rd6 #181 Reagan Mauia Rd6 #199 Drew Mormino Rd7 #219 Kelvin Smith Rd7 #225 Brandon Fields Rd7 #238 Abe Wright So in the 8 drafts since the year 2000 we have had 5 First Round picks. We have had 6 2nd round picks. We have had 8 3rd round picks. We have had 6 4th round picks. We have had 8 5th round picks. We have had 11 6th round picks. And we have had 12 7th round picks. So in 8 years we have had a total of 57 picks. Of those 57 picks 18 players (Ted Ginn Jr, John Beck, Samson Satele, Lorenzo Booker, Paul Solial, Reagan Mauia, Drew Mormino, Brandon Fields, Abraham Wright, Jason Allen, Derek Hagan, Rod Wright, Ronnie Brown, Matt Roth, Channing Crowder, Travis Daniels, Vernon Carey, and Yeremiah Bell) remain on the roster. No player prior to the 2003 draft is still on this team. Another point to note, of those 18 players still on the team 16 were taken in the past 3 years. Bell and Carey are the only holdovers from the Wannstedt regime. We currently have 4 first round picks, 3 second round picks, 3 third round picks, 2 fourth round picks, Zero fifth round picks, 3 sixth round picks and 4 seventh round picks on the roster. Making our best statistical rounds the First and the Seventh with us having absolutely no success in the past 8 years in the fifth round. Of course these are all just numbers and trends of previous regmines but it's still interesting to examine our draft tendencies over the past 8 years. Here's to hoping to a better 2008!
__________________
![]() Thanks to Vaark for the sig pic |
||||
|
|
|
||||
|
|
#2 | |
|
Seasoned Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Age: 29
Posts: 921
Thanks: 5
Thanked 15 Times in 6 Posts
![]() ![]() |
Quote:
__________________
Bored With Losing |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#3 |
|
Predator in the Water
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the water
Age: 30
Posts: 10,884
Thanks: 1
Thanked 279 Times in 156 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() |
Wasn't Eddie Moore a 3rd round pick?
__________________
![]() #1 RICKY WILLIAMS FAN |
|
|
|
|
|
#4 |
|
Seasoned Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 618
Thanks: 13
Thanked 20 Times in 14 Posts
![]() |
Probably so, but I'm around so rarely nowadays I miss most topics. I was looking at our past drafts last night and though I was aware of our drafting woes it really didn't hit me that we have only 2 players on this team prior to the 2005 draft. That's sad.
__________________
![]() Thanks to Vaark for the sig pic |
|
|
|
|
|
#5 |
|
Starter
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 382
Thanks: 0
Thanked 34 Times in 11 Posts
![]() ![]() |
NFL Draft Trends from the last 5 years
Regarding recent draft trends, I posted the below article on my Dolphins blog a few weeks back, this info is related to the topic of this original thread http://thedolphininsider.blogspot.com/ Being a Dolphin fan and the fact that this team holds the first pick in the 08 draft, was the worst team in the league last year, holds 3 picks on day one, and 5 picks within the first 100 picks, the draft has taken up a lot of my free time with thoughts and analysis. Up until about a week ago, I had taken a general assumption that Miami will automatically secure about five starters out of the upcoming draft, and to my dismay, landing five quality starters would be considered an extraordinary accomplishment based on the trends from the last 5 years of NFL Drafts. This team is so bad and has needs at virtually every position, and because Parcells is a master of shopping for groceries, this team may still land a minimum of five starters out of pure necessity. Due to injuries and a piss poor depth of talent last year, The Dolphins had somewhere between 7-10 first year players obtain considerable playing time last year. This coming year may be no exception. After analyzing all the picks from the drafts occurring between 2002-2007 from every NFL team, here are some numbers I uncovered… Over the last five years, each team has made an average of 40 picks per team. Of these 40 picks, 10 become starters, 13 are backups, 6 leave for another team, and 11 of the lot are out of the NFL entirely. On an annual basis, this works out to each team averaging 8 picks a year, and of the 8 annual picks, 2 will become starters, 3 will make the team as a backup, 1 will not make the roster but land on another team, and 2 will be cut and not play in the league at all. Over the last three years(2005-2007), the annual average is 8 picks per year, 2 starters, 4 backups, 1 makes the roster on another team, and 1 is no longer in the NFL. The Dolphins have selected 37 players over the last 5 years, with 11 becoming starters, 12 are backups, 8 sign with another team ,and 6 are no longer in the NFL. Over the last 3 drafts, there have been 22 selections, with 8 becoming starters, 11 backups, 3 on another team, and zero players out of the league entirely. The annual Average for the Dolphins is 7 picks a year, with 2 becoming starters, 2 become backups, 2 sign with another team, and 1 out of the league. The Denver Broncos jump off the page as holding the dubious honor of having the worst results over the last five years. The Broncos have made a total of 37 NFL draft picks since 2002 with more than half, or 19 players, no longer playing in the NFL at all. In total, The Broncos have turned these 37 picks into 6 starters, 7 backups and losing another 5 to other NFL teams. Since 2002, 65% of the Broncos picks are no longer with the team, or a ratio of 2 out of every three picks. The Indianapolis Colts from two years ago started 100% or 22 players on offense and defense in the Superbowl that were all homegrown draft picks. They have a reputation of building their roster via draft and the results demonstrate this philosophy. Of the Colts 26 picks over the last 3 drafts, they have obtained 8 starters and 13 backups. In other words 81% of their picks since 2005 have made the roster. But they are not the most efficient NFL team in the draft since 2002. Surprising to me, the leader over the last three drafts turns out to be the Baltimore Ravens with a retention rate of 92%. Of their 24 picks, they have secured 8starters and 14 backups. The most efficient team over five years is the Arizona Cardinals with a retention rate of 70% since 2002. The Cards have made a total of 33 picks that have resulted in 14 starters and 9 backups. That works out to 42% of picks becoming starters. Carolina Panthers are the worst in this stat with only converting 6 of 39 total picks into starters, or 15% of all picks since 2002. Over the last 3 drafts, the Dolphins lead the AFC east in converting 19 of 22 picks into starters or backups. The million dollar question is this sign of good drafting or a bad team making desperate attempts to fill holes on a weak roster. I’m guessing more of the later. Assuming Miami makes about 7-10 picks this year by adding a pick here or there from wheeling and dealing or acquiring supplemental picks, a reasonable expectation is to forecast we will add about 7 total players to the roster in 2008 with 3 becoming starters, and 4 serving as backups and special team players. It is worthy to note that the Draft is Parcells specialty so here is to hoping he surprises and exceeds our expectations. The good news is the darkest days of this franchise are behind us, and there is only way to go from a miserable 2007 1-15 campaign. |
|
|
|
|
|
#6 |
|
Bon Jon Bovi
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: desolation row
Posts: 3,148
Thanks: 533
Thanked 542 Times in 410 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
definitely depressing. let's just hope we don't see some variation of this thread next year.
__________________
![]()
|
|
|
|
|
|
#7 | |
|
Seasoned Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Arizona
Age: 21
Posts: 767
Thanks: 0
Thanked 24 Times in 15 Posts
![]() ![]() |
Quote:
ok, maybe not, but still, when you look at our 5th round futility, it's kind of nice to know it's a promise not to be repeated.
__________________
WELCOME TO MIAMI PAT WHITE!
|
|
|
|
|
![]() |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
|
|