Adam Schefter:Second-round picks simply can't replace Shockey, Taylor

[MiamiDolfan85]

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story?...000d5d8096b194

[MiamiDolfan85]

Originally Posted by MiamiDolfan85

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story?...000d5d8096b194

I say amen to the title alone,and I most admit,this is going to take some gettin used to...seeing Taylor and Thomas in different jerseys is going too be quite odd for me

[dreamwalker]

a second round pick is not supposed to replace taylor
it is supposed to compensate us for the 70-80 tackles and 7-10 sacks JT has left.

and trust me, a second round pick CAN achieve 70-80 tackes and 7-10 sacks during his career.

[NashPhin]

At this point, the 2nd and 6th rounders are of much greater import to us than JT. As I had posted previously, if this rebuilding is effective, many of the players we will win with have not been acquired yet. The draft picks help us find those guys.

[moonman]

YEAH! We should have totally HUNG ON to Taylor for one more year and not gotten anything! That would have been the SMART thing to do!

WTF are these people thinking?

[Spray Mucus]

yeah a 2009 2nd round pick who has yet to be selected until April o9' wont help us for the 08' season like JT would have. He'll help us for seasons 2009-2019 (hopefully), while JT only helps the Skins for the 08' maybe the 09' season.

Shockey has a good 6-8 years left in his tank while Hollywood (JT) has 1 to 3 tops.

[Awsi Dooger]

Different situations. We're nowhere so a bonus #2 has considerable value. The Giants are trying to win now.

I still think moving Shockey is a blunder. But I read some articles today and obviously Shockey wasn't happy. I was basing things on watching Shockey at Giants camp in Albany the last few years, the surge of energy he provided. Today I saw this paragraph:

"It was obvious that Shockey was upset during the team's minicamp in June. While teammates practiced, Shockey stayed in the locker room, much to the dismay of coach Tom Coughlin."

[Nublar7]

This is the key sentence in the article:

Each leaves a hole in the city he vacated that no second-round pick can replace this season.

Well duh! Of course a second round pick in 2009 can't help the team in 2008.

We did lose talent, and the 2008 team is worse off not having him on the team and on the field. However, long term, that second round pick is WAY more valuable then having JT on the team. Sure that second round pick could end up a bust, but he could turn into a 10+ year NFL star. You just don't know yet, but I would rather have the chance to take a guy high in the draft next year then hold onto JT for one more year.

For 2008, the trade hurts the Dolphins. For 2009 and beyond, this trade REALLY helps the Dolphins.

[Danny]

What we did was robbed the skins...they never learn....we gave up a guy who didn't want to be here,had an inconsisten season last year,only wants to play 1 more season,2 at the most and was going to make 8 mill a year....in return we get a 2nd and a 6th...I know we can't predict how good or bad those picks will turn pout to be but imo we got the best of the deal....JT wasn't gonna be here for a superbowl run anyway.

Ozzy rules!!

[WaxOn WaxOff]

I thought Taylor was originally a 4th round pick. Maybe only a fourth round pick could replace him, huh?

[Third Eye]

Originally Posted by dreamwalker

a second round pick is not supposed to replace taylor
it is supposed to compensate us for the 70-80 tackles and 7-10 sacks JT has left.

and trust me, a second round pick CAN achieve 70-80 tackes and 7-10 sacks during his career.

This post made me laugh out loud. Yes a second round pick can definitely achieve these lofty numbers in his career.

JT was putting up those numbers EVERY year.

I would like to add something..........after this bozo at work started giving me crap about the Fins (I'm an easy target, hell we were 1-15 and haven't contended since like 2002).......

Anyway, the clown starts in on me..."how the hell can you guys trade JT for a second round pick??? That is absurd, blah blah, the Fins got hosed, yada yada...."

And guess what folks... The easy comeback and it wasnt even a comeback because I had already thought it out in my head.....

• Miami originally drafted JT in the 2nd round 12 years ago
• Miami rode him for 11 seasons, getting 117 sacks, 5 pro-bowls, a defensive MVP, 8 TD's, countless forced fumbles, picks and recoveries.
• And with two years left in his career, on the downside of his production (likely) what did Miami do?
• They traded him for what they drafted him - a 2nd round pick (plus a free 6th rounder)

Seriously, how many teams can say that? Most players leave as free agents or get released long before the original club can ever get anything in return for the player. Miami rode him for 11 years, it was a great ride, and in return they got their investment back.

Schefter and everyone else is way off base for thinking anything different. Will their 2nd rounder from Washington equate to a JT type player? Time will tell. But the fact remains: Miami got their poker chip back. And that is very rare people.

I am out.

[BROWN 23]

i wish we would have gotten another player in return in the trade. someone who could been some what of a factor.

[lbmclean_sj]

the runt needs to stick to regurgitating his source's info

this isn't fantasy football this is the real thing

[Third Eye]

Originally Posted by BROWN 23

i wish we would have gotten another player in return in the trade. someone who could been some what of a factor.

We dont want/need a player in return. If a team is trading a player, there is a reason. We need the draft picks, trust me. This is how the team will be built. This is a REBUILD. This will take 3 offseasons. We are only through one offseason.

Be patient, I know it's hard.

[BROWN 23]

we should definetly go after a WR or go after Brett Farve maybe PARKER or Glenn I would be satisfied with either.