Beck/Daunte or Beck/Green - Page 2

WestCKoastiN · 06-11-2007, 06:20 PM

It will be Beck/Green but i would of love Daunte to be teaching him.

PAPA FIN · 06-11-2007, 06:36 PM

Its hard to say. C-pep didn't stand a chance behind the line at the start of the year. Hard to judge if he was gunshy or couldn't learn the system. Don't know how much Green already knows. Game time is the only way to tell. Green does seem to have a flow and a head on his shoulders.

fishfan34 · 06-11-2007, 06:55 PM

What exactly is it you want Beck to watch Daunte do? Show him his impression of a statue? Show him how to hold onto the ball for as long as possible, then turn around and brace for the hit from the OLB? Show him how to check down and throw an INT into the hands of the LB standing right in front of him and then watch said LB take it to the house for a TD? Help him work on his WTF?? kind of defense is THAT facial expression? I'm thinking i'd rather have the guy that's PLAYED in this offense and had a pretty sustained and consistent number of productive and pro bowl caliber seasons.

endorPHINS72 · 06-11-2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PhinFan0202

Why not both?

Because Daunte isn't interested in helping a rookie QB. Daunte is concerned with Daunte, period.

Even though Trent Green wants to start, he knows that he was also brought to Miami to be a mentor to John Beck and he is fine with that.

Transcendental · 06-11-2007, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GCD960

Do you want John watching Daunte or Trent for the next few years?

You want your current QB to be the same type of QB as the one you are grooming.

Why is it not that simple?

Who cares. Beck/Green it's going to be and thank God!

steveincolorado · 06-11-2007, 08:08 PM

Whats Daunte going to teach the kid?
This is how you fumble,
This is how you throw a pick,
This is how you hold onto the ball too long and take a sack,
This is how you say your an elite QB.

Kyndig · 06-11-2007, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GCD960

Do you want John watching Daunte or Trent for the next few years?

You want your current QB to be the same type of QB as the one you are grooming.

Why is it not that simple?

Hmm...let's see. duante, is like 6-5, 265 lbs, injured, and in his heyday was known really for making plays with his athleticism, mobility, and cannon for an arm.

John beck is like a 6-2 white guy, with fair athleticism, but nowhere the size and athletic gifts that a healthy Duante Culpepper had.

Hiergo, I think he could learn much more from Trent Green then from an injured or even healthy Duante Culpepper, because I think DC had some gifts he was able to rely on, whereas Trent Green and John Beck would have to rely on other gifts that were different.

BTW, this isn't a racist thing. I happen to think QB's like Warren Moon, Donovan McNabb, Doug Williams, etc. were all exceptional QBs, but Pep was a freak when he was healthy, and he relied alot on his physical gifts. I think losing that physical ability had more of an impact on him than say Carson Palmer for example for a couple of reasons:

1. Carson was never the most mobile QB to begin with, his game was never about that. Culpepper's was, it was an important part of his game.

2. Carson had a better line and supporting cast.

In any case, I think that at this time given the circumstances i..e Cpep's health, offensive system, coaching, etc., Trent Green will be a better mentor to Beck than Cpep would have been because Cpep at his best was more reliant upon his incredible god given physical gifts than say Trent Green or John Beck who don't neccessarily possess those same gifts, but may possess others...

Just a thought...

Willy76 · 06-11-2007, 09:26 PM

I Think we have no other choice than Green

crumpdaddy · 06-11-2007, 09:56 PM

ummm i wanted culp/beck, that way beck would be thrown into the fire ala dan marino at the beginning of the season and could show he was the man :-D maybe just me, but want a rook to show up big ben

Crunkcore · 06-12-2007, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Transcendental

Who cares. Beck/Green it's going to be and thank God!

:yeahthat:

twilley1 · 06-12-2007, 10:47 AM

I think Green is a better mentor for Beck, it's not all about physical ability.IMO Trent brings more to the table than Daunte,. Leadership,reading the def. checking down. ect.

06-11-2007, 06:55 PM	#18
fishfan34 Good Luck Coach Sparano!!! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Blackshear, Ga (Via Tampa, Florida) Age: 37 Posts: 3,747 Thanks: 11 Thanked 41 Times in 29 Posts	What exactly is it you want Beck to watch Daunte do? Show him his impression of a statue? Show him how to hold onto the ball for as long as possible, then turn around and brace for the hit from the OLB? Show him how to check down and throw an INT into the hands of the LB standing right in front of him and then watch said LB take it to the house for a TD? Help him work on his WTF?? kind of defense is THAT facial expression? I'm thinking i'd rather have the guy that's PLAYED in this offense and had a pretty sustained and consistent number of productive and pro bowl caliber seasons. __________________ It's better to remain silent and appear a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt! "Mark Twain" http://www.myspace.com/jcnews

06-11-2007, 08:08 PM	#21
steveincolorado R.I.P. Max Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Colorado Age: 43 Posts: 2,506 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts	Whats Daunte going to teach the kid? This is how you fumble, This is how you throw a pick, This is how you hold onto the ball too long and take a sack, This is how you say your an elite QB. __________________ Do you have any old games on tape? Would you be interested in making a trade? I enjoy recording and collecting old games. Send me an PM if your interested in trading.

06-11-2007, 09:26 PM	#23
Willy76 Colombian Fins Fan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Miami Age: 32 Posts: 470 Thanks: 85 Thanked 41 Times in 28 Posts	I Think we have no other choice than Green __________________ :jetssuck:

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06-11-2007, 06:36 PM	#17
PAPA FIN FIN FOR LIFE Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: HOME OF THE FINS Posts: 41 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Its hard to say. C-pep didn't stand a chance behind the line at the start of the year. Hard to judge if he was gunshy or couldn't learn the system. Don't know how much Green already knows. Game time is the only way to tell. Green does seem to have a flow and a head on his shoulders.

06-11-2007, 09:56 PM	#24
crumpdaddy Scout Team Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: marshville, nc Age: 29 Posts: 177 Thanks: 9 Thanked 22 Times in 10 Posts	ummm i wanted culp/beck, that way beck would be thrown into the fire ala dan marino at the beginning of the season and could show he was the man :-D maybe just me, but want a rook to show up big ben

06-12-2007, 10:47 AM	#26
twilley1 twilley1 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think Green is a better mentor for Beck, it's not all about physical ability.IMO Trent brings more to the table than Daunte,. Leadership,reading the def. checking down. ect.