Bedard blasts Dolphin offense

[DRNEWBEE]

Originally Posted by Dolfan1000

If Bedard makes another comment about Alabi and Mormino on the first team being "puzzling", he should be fired.

How many times must it be addressed - DO NOT LOOK INTO THE OFFENSIVE LINE GROUPINGS. Does he not listen? Is he purposely being negative, just for the heck of it? Sheesh. Maybe he just doesnt understand the game to enlighten us further, so this takes up some space on the page.

As for the offensive woes, I think if you listen to Trent's presser today its very telling and actually makes me feel better about the whole situation. He talks about how picks this time of year are just fine. In fact, now is the time for the picks. Getting used to the wideouts, how they make their cuts, the angles on their routes etc... Green basically says that in team drills, he is going to use the opportunity to learn about his teammates. If it means throwing a pick, then thats OK, so long as its a mistake that benefits the O. Sure, he could throw the ball away if it were a game. But in freakin team drills on August 1st, why not try and get a feel for what your guys can do. Anyway, it makes a lot of sense really.

From Bedard's blog, you would think today was September 1st. Luckily its only August.

Exactly!

[GandalFin]

I'm glad to see the general mood of most posters is not to make too much of this. Ck's point about the db's actually catching the ball is a good one.

[jdang307]

What I wrote on the blog:

Don't worry about the offense. New England's O didn't look good against it either when it got blanked. This is a brand new offense, these things don't develop overnight!

Also, Hagan and Bell in a tussle, with Hagan throwing a haymaker lol.

[ckparrothead]

This is a system that starts to click slowly. When it does though, you're generally happy with the results.

[padre31]

Originally Posted by GandalFin

I'm glad to see the general mood of most posters is not to make too much of this. Ck's point about the db's actually catching the ball is a good one.

Err...man, I don't know about that....it would be better if there were -0- Int's of course, but it's Training Camp folks, what next Feeley misses FG's in thunder storms?

My wild guess is the "D" is jumping lazy slant routes and getting easy picks.

And BTW, I hope folks aren't surprised when our "O" line is made up of the less then spectacular veterans over the promising rookies.

[DolphinsFan23]

Originally Posted by ckparrothead

I could have definitely predicted the interceptions before camp began.

This is a timing and rhythm offense. Until the receivers catch on to the system and until the quarterbacks catch on to the receivers, there are going to be a LOT of interceptions.

Maybe I'm a homer but for now I'm looking at this from the positive angle. Last year our secondary couldn't pick off passes to save their lives. Given that you know this is a timing and rhythm based offense where there are likely to be a ton of errant throws in the opening months (yes, months) of the offense's installation...wouldn't you rather the defense be picking those passes off, as opposed to last year when they couldn't?

Yeah. If you listen to Trent Green's interview on miamidolphins.com he says that throwing picks today is expected and that now is the time for them to get their timing down and make mistakes. The coaches expect it too.

Glad to see that our DBs are getting those picks though. That was definitely something our defense should have done better on last year considering how good our front 7 has been. I like to look at the positive angle also ... I try to be realistic but still a glass half full kind of guy. I think an overly negative fanbase and media kind of saps the energy and spirit of the players and causes them to play worse than they otherwise could. The Lions fanbase springs to mind. Probably the Raiders also. Because of you know who, this year the Falcons fanbase will be probably be pretty negative. I feel kind of sorry for Harrington ... an upbeat kind of guy in another bummed out town. He might be taking a lot of heat because everyone is so ticked off at Vick.

[Phanatical]

Originally Posted by Dolfan1000

If Bedard makes another comment about Alabi and Mormino on the first team being "puzzling", he should be fired.

How many times must it be addressed - DO NOT LOOK INTO THE OFFENSIVE LINE GROUPINGS. Does he not listen? Is he purposely being negative, just for the heck of it? Sheesh. Maybe he just doesnt understand the game to enlighten us further, so this takes up some space on the page.

As for the offensive woes, I think if you listen to Trent's presser today its very telling and actually makes me feel better about the whole situation. He talks about how picks this time of year are just fine. In fact, now is the time for the picks. Getting used to the wideouts, how they make their cuts, the angles on their routes etc... Green basically says that in team drills, he is going to use the opportunity to learn about his teammates. If it means throwing a pick, then thats OK, so long as its a mistake that benefits the O. Sure, he could throw the ball away if it were a game. But in freakin team drills on August 1st, why not try and get a feel for what your guys can do. Anyway, it makes a lot of sense really.

From Bedard's blog, you would think today was September 1st. Luckily its only August.

This is true of many sports. When practicing, you use the opportunities to try and work on weaknesses and find out what different things work and don't work. You don't try and "win" or beat the other guy. Perfect example: When I wrestled, during practice I would purposefully put myself in bad spots to see how I could get out of them or what kind of defenses I could use to not get in a worse spot. Guys used to think they were kicking my butt. Then, when we really squared off, I usually kicked their ***. This was just my way of making myself better. Don't worry about Green, he is a very good QB and by the time the games roll around he will know what works and what doesn't work with the team and players he has around him. As for the OL, well, I AM concerned about all the negative plays, but they are going against some really good guys and it's still early so I'm hoping they are doing a lot of learning.

GO PHINS~!

[Elliott 1]

Originally Posted by Dolfan1000

Oh, and one more thing. Its easy to make a blog seem increasingly negative when you make points such as:

John Beck sacked by Zach Thomas and JT. Gee, you mean a rookie QB on day five of TC cant escape two defensive phenoms? Shocker.

Or how about Akbar Gbaja Biamila blowing past Mormino. Good thing neither will be playing (Akbar likely will not even be on the roster) come September.

Think again. AGB may turn out to be the teams best ST's tackler and a very viable backup to JT.

[lbmclean_sj]

we have 3 scrubs on our OL and we should be concerned about the offense?

[padre31]

Originally Posted by lbmclean_sj

we have 3 scrubs on our OL and we should be concerned about the offense?

3? maybe 1 liewinski....maybe

[lbmclean_sj]

Originally Posted by padre31

3? maybe 1 liewinski....maybe

Alabi and that rookie at RG aren't scrubs huh?

[Mike13]

I am a little concerned about Green forcing some of his throws.
He may have been able to pull that off when he was younger, but he has to realize that he's not 23 anymore.

[ckparrothead]

Cameron had an excellent answer about the whole interception thing today and it's something that I'd forgotten, but Norv Turner mentioned it too I believe back when he was here.

In the early stages like this, you want your quarterbacks to be aggressive and instinctive with the football. You don't want them to be careful or hold back. The interceptions will come off their aggression in these early stages. The reason you want to be aggressive is to allow the receivers and quarterbacks the opportunity to get use to each other, but also to see which receivers are going to rise to the top and become your staple pass catchers.

Cameron said basically if he told these guys to be more careful with the football, we wouldn't have a chance at growing.

Again this reminds me of something you can do if you have a strong personality in charge of the offense. If we had a weaker personality as OC and then let's say a defensive-minded HC, the HC would see all these picks and say what's up with all the turnovers and the OC would start adjusting things already to iron out the turnovers...but then the offense wouldn't really grow or ever be dangerous. If you've got a Cam Cameron, Scott Linehan or a Norv Turner heading things up, a guy that either is the head coach or at the very least is highly trusted by the head coach, faith is an affordable shelf item.

So for the turnovers my answer would be three-fold:

1. First off there haven't been THAT many, it's been a steady stream daily but it's not like every other play

2. This offense is characterized by turnovers off timing and angle miscues early in the installation, especially the systematic install

3. The coaches are specifically telling the quarterbacks to be aggressive, take chances, and don't worry about picks

[finfan54]

Originally Posted by DiepatriotsDie

I'm not going to slam Bedard. He's telling it like it is. All he is saying, is that the offense does not yet look any better than it has in the last few years. He's been convering the Dolphins for a while now, and is out there every day. I'm sure everything will start coming together soon. The offense didn't look very good during Saban's first camp, and that actually turned out to be one of our better recent seasons offensively.

Bedard sounds like he doesnt even want to be there. Dude is getting paid for this and acts like he is doing us all a favor by bringing up little negatives that are always expected.

I read other reports from fans and I get a completely different attutude and more info.

[FinFilbert]

Originally Posted by DiepatriotsDie

I'm not going to slam Bedard. He's telling it like it is. All he is saying, is that the offense does not yet look any better than it has in the last few years. He's been convering the Dolphins for a while now, and is out there every day. I'm sure everything will start coming together soon. The offense didn't look very good during Saban's first camp, and that actually turned out to be one of our better recent seasons offensively.

Sounds like Bedard needs to get back on the lithium.