Cam Cameron to sacrifice yet another rookie

RockyMtnPhinfan · 09-02-2008, 01:23 PM

WOW.....Cam is set to start Flacco. I understand that he didn't necessarily CHOOSE to not have Boller or Smith ready for the season but man i think he makes poor choices. That record at Indiana as a head coach (i think it was like 7-55 W/L) is something we should have looked at a bit more closely. Good luck Joe Flacco i hope you aren't mentally defeated for the rest of your career by what this guy is doing to you.
Okay it was 18-37 Still, i think the point is pretty clear

ZachThomas76 · 09-02-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyMtnPhinfan

WOW.....Cam is set to start Flacco. I understand that he didn't necessarily CHOOSE to not have Boller or Smith ready for the season but man i think he makes poor choices. That record at Indiana as a head coach (i think it was like 7-55 W/L) is something we should have looked at a bit more closely. Good luck Joe Flacco i hope you aren't mentally defeated for the rest of your career by what this guy is doing to you.

Cam Cameron isnt the HC at Baltimore, so it wasnt his choice. Baltimore I think can challenge Chicago for the worst offense in the NFL. I mean look at their qb's. Boller Flacco and Troy Smith vs Kyle Orton and Grossman. Hmm. Pretty hideous. From what I saw of Flacco in pre season, hes nowhere near ready to be an NFL starter.

JRRYDAH21 · 09-02-2008, 01:26 PM

i dont think it was his decision completely .. im sure troy smith will take over if flacco doesnt perform well week 1 in my opinion he gives them a better chance of winnin than flacco

ckparrothead · 09-02-2008, 01:29 PM

Honestly, Joe Flacco is the type of rookie I suspect might be ok to start his first year. I've come to believe over the years that the kinds of players that do well as rookies are the ones that are physically better than the game. The ones that rely on their mental skills and not their physical stature and/or ability...they can struggle, because honestly the mental aspect of the game is ovewhelming to everyone no matter how smart you were in college.

Hence, I said when John Beck was drafted that he is not the type of QB prospect to do well as a rookie and will have to wait until everything "clicks" before he can really manipulate the football field the way he wants.

Hence, I also said before Chad Henne was drafted that he *IS* the type of QB prospect that could do well as a rookie because he's got good thickness and stature, and physically his arm and his throws were unmatched in this rookie class (IMO).

Joe Flacco fits in the latter category. The key for all of these players though, is where is their ceiling? Which ones do better as rookies does not necessarily correspond to which ones will be better pros.

RockyMtnPhinfan · 09-02-2008, 01:29 PM

I understand he isn't the HC, but does the OC not have some say in this situation? Was Harbaugh a Off or Def guy in his last job? There are stop gaps out there.....for pretty cheap i bet too.

PS- WE, the 1-15 that we were, actually beat troy smith last year. So from me he gets no props.

DaBills4life · 09-02-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyMtnPhinfan

WOW.....Cam is set to start Flacco. I understand that he didn't necessarily CHOOSE to not have Boller or Smith ready for the season but man i think he makes poor choices. That record at Indiana as a head coach (i think it was like 7-55 W/L) is something we should have looked at a bit more closely. Good luck Joe Flacco i hope you aren't mentally defeated for the rest of your career by what this guy is doing to you.
Okay it was 18-37 Still, i think the point is pretty clear

John Beck didn't start a game until you guys were 0-10.

RockyMtnPhinfan · 09-02-2008, 01:35 PM

The point is that he DID get put into the starting job, no matter of when, and in retrospect it seems to have stunted his growth IMO.
Da, i have to be honest i am curious to see Poluzsny play. You guys are an interesting team.

WhiteShoeWillie · 09-02-2008, 01:39 PM

I'm pretty sure this is because Troy Smith and Kyle Boller are injured.

13Dolfan87 · 09-02-2008, 01:40 PM

He isn't the head coach and who really cares? Baltimore isn't any good and they may as well go with Flacco since they consider him their QB of the future.

dolpns13 · 09-02-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBills4life

John Beck didn't start a game until you guys were 0-10.

But he could have started him after the bye, at home, against buffalo.. Instead he waited the following weeks to start him at Pitt and at Philly (in the worst weather imaginable.

SpurzN703 · 09-02-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyMtnPhinfan

WOW.....Cam is set to start Flacco. I understand that he didn't necessarily CHOOSE to not have Boller or Smith ready for the season but man i think he makes poor choices. That record at Indiana as a head coach (i think it was like 7-55 W/L) is something we should have looked at a bit more closely. Good luck Joe Flacco i hope you aren't mentally defeated for the rest of your career by what this guy is doing to you.
Okay it was 18-37 Still, i think the point is pretty clear

Why do people make it seem like Cam is the one making the decisions?

Valandui · 09-02-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteShoeWillie

I'm pretty sure this is because Troy Smith and Kyle Boller are injured.

I agree. That's why they went out and signed Harrington.

GoonBoss · 09-02-2008, 02:00 PM

In fairness, unless somthing is very wrong with Baltimore's Chain of command, that wasn't CAm's descision.

WaywardZest · 09-02-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Valandui

I agree. That's why they went out and signed Harrington.

Bouman*

LemonPepper · 09-02-2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dolpns13

But he could have started him after the bye, at home, against buffalo.. Instead he waited the following weeks to start him at Pitt and at Philly (in the worst weather imaginable.

And everybody raved about what an excellent job he did: "poise in the pocket and no turnovers." He did excellent with the first 2 starts; why the melt down when starting game 12? Beck sat or over half the season. He WAS NOT thrown to the wolves. Everybody thgought he was ready to play; even a sportscaster suggesed Hugenzia should make Cam play Beck. I'm tired of the excuses. If he wasn't ready at game 10, he will never be ready.

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ckparrothead Premium Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 32,841 Credits: 59,153 Thanks: 16 Thanked 2,034 Times in 658 Posts FH Badges Total Awards: 1	Honestly, Joe Flacco is the type of rookie I suspect might be ok to start his first year. I've come to believe over the years that the kinds of players that do well as rookies are the ones that are physically better than the game. The ones that rely on their mental skills and not their physical stature and/or ability...they can struggle, because honestly the mental aspect of the game is ovewhelming to everyone no matter how smart you were in college. Hence, I said when John Beck was drafted that he is not the type of QB prospect to do well as a rookie and will have to wait until everything "clicks" before he can really manipulate the football field the way he wants. Hence, I also said before Chad Henne was drafted that he IS the type of QB prospect that could do well as a rookie because he's got good thickness and stature, and physically his arm and his throws were unmatched in this rookie class (IMO). Joe Flacco fits in the latter category. The key for all of these players though, is where is their ceiling? Which ones do better as rookies does not necessarily correspond to which ones will be better pros. __________________ Good luck with the Skins, JT. You'll always be "Ozone" to me...

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RockyMtnPhinfan broncos stink!!! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Steamboat Springs Age: 35 Posts: 221 Credits: 3,310 Thanks: 176 Thanked 31 Times in 21 Posts	I understand he isn't the HC, but does the OC not have some say in this situation? Was Harbaugh a Off or Def guy in his last job? There are stop gaps out there.....for pretty cheap i bet too. PS- WE, the 1-15 that we were, actually beat troy smith last year. So from me he gets no props. Last edited by RockyMtnPhinfan; 09-02-2008 at 01:31 PM. Reason: more info

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WhiteShoeWillie Starter Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 152 Credits: 1,614 Thanks: 42 Thanked 37 Times in 22 Posts	I'm pretty sure this is because Troy Smith and Kyle Boller are injured. __________________

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GoonBoss Keeping the powder dry. Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: TX Age: 41 Posts: 4,876 Thanks: 458 Thanked 793 Times in 477 Posts FH Badges Total Awards: 1	In fairness, unless somthing is very wrong with Baltimore's Chain of command, that wasn't CAm's descision. __________________ 12 Seasons WR/TE/QB/LS 229 Receptions for 2171 Yards/19 TDs/132 First downs Caught Marino's 200th TD Special Teams MVP 1988 Unsung Hero Award 8/12/06 RIP Karl Jensen 9/1/05 His dad, Karl, became sick and came back to his home city, Doylestown, PA. Karl passed on Sept.1 2005.

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09-02-2008, 01:26 PM	#3
JRRYDAH21 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jersey 908 Age: 21 Posts: 119 Credits: 1,460 Thanks: 39 Thanked 13 Times in 8 Posts	i dont think it was his decision completely .. im sure troy smith will take over if flacco doesnt perform well week 1 in my opinion he gives them a better chance of winnin than flacco

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RockyMtnPhinfan broncos stink!!! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Steamboat Springs Age: 35 Posts: 221 Credits: 3,310 Thanks: 176 Thanked 31 Times in 21 Posts	The point is that he DID get put into the starting job, no matter of when, and in retrospect it seems to have stunted his growth IMO. Da, i have to be honest i am curious to see Poluzsny play. You guys are an interesting team.

09-02-2008, 01:40 PM	#9
13Dolfan87 Scout Team Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 142 Credits: 1,081 Thanks: 1 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	He isn't the head coach and who really cares? Baltimore isn't any good and they may as well go with Flacco since they consider him their QB of the future.