Did anyone hear this?? - Page 3

finfan54 · 08-23-2008, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiick72

Ya Know, it scares me to death when a Jets fan comes on here and is the voice of reason!

Apparently, you did not watch either.

nyjunc · 08-23-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by finfan54

Apparently, you did not watch the Jax game. I suggest you reconsider. No one is saying we are a playoff team or anything. What we are saying is, The J-E-T-S Jets are also banking on that they are a much improved team that went 4-12 or something or other.

You will meet a buzzsaw on Sept 7 in Hot Miami if you come down here thinking this is a walkover. You will be much surprised. Chad can dump it off with the best of them and strike the lone-big play of the day with the best of them.

Apparently I didn't watch Miami's 2nd preseason game?

as if that will tell us how good a team will be?

a buzzsaw?

Oh boy, I've heard some doozies on this board the past 5 years but this one might be the best.

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Originally Posted by dolfan19

The difference between past years and this year is that we have PROVEN head coach as our VP. And as far as his impact, this gives Tony someone to turn to when he does have a question, someone who has seen it all. BP, I'm sure, will have plenty of input as to what happens on the field. Cameron and Saban were in their first ventures as well, but didn't have the luxury of a Hall of Fame coach on the staff to ask questions, or to give them suggestions. And the truth is, he may very well have many of the same philosophies BP has, and that has to be a good thing. There are certainly worse people to learn from. Sometimes the people that you have to lean on are as important as your own ability.

Oh, and I think that the respect the players have for you also makes a huge difference. They will play harder and more physically this year than we've seen in the last decade. Let's be honest...they fear the Tuna. There really is NO comparison to this regime and the last two.

The comedy never ends, now you have a proven HC as your VP as if that means something. He's NOT coaching! We had the same situation in 2000(but luckily Parcells gave groh some power to pick his own players) and it sure didn't help us and our 2000 team was MUCH more talented and experienced than your current team.

Why would they fear parcells?

Just relax the expectations a bit is all I ask. I have seen the unrealistic expectations on here on a yearly basis. Have fun watchign this team grow before you started thinking playoffs and beyond. Maybe they'll surprise? It's just not right to expect this great progress in 1 year.

SammySmif · 08-23-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by fishfan34

Phil Simms was on the same show the Monday after the Bucs played here on that opening weekend of the preseason. He was talking to them about the elite QB's like Manning and Brady and said there is a 2nd tier that is Big Ben, Romo, Brees, Rivers, and I think Hassellbeck. Then he said that in his opinion, the best QB on the field that night was Henne and that he can see Henne is 2-3 years being a part of that Romo, Rivers, Big Ben group.

Yes. Henne is showing he can be special in the games so far. Wish I could see the game tonight.

dolfan19 · 08-23-2008, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by nyjunc

The comedy never ends, now you have a proven HC as your VP as if that means something. He's NOT coaching! We had the same situation in 2000(but luckily Parcells gave groh some power to pick his own players) and it sure didn't help us and our 2000 team was MUCH more talented and experienced than your current team.

Why would they fear parcells?

Just relax the expectations a bit is all I ask. I have seen the unrealistic expectations on here on a yearly basis. Have fun watchign this team grow before you started thinking playoffs and beyond. Maybe they'll surprise? It's just not right to expect this great progress in 1 year.

I never said we were going to make the playoffs this year, although I believe we will be vastly improved. I am looking forward to watching the young guys progress, and seeing what kind of improvements the new players and coaches bring. You keep talking about the "unrealistic expectations" on our board. Of course we have expectations, but I defy you to find me a serious post that shows anyone here believes we are real contenders for a championship. And of course every new coaching change brings that new hope, but I don't think anyone could argue that the current staff brings a better set of credentials than anyone since JJ and co.

Also, as far as players fearing Parcells, check out articles from when Parcells first took over. Joey Porter himself stated that you could feel the difference when he walked out on the practice field. He said guys started flying around harder and faster as soon as he came out there.

nyjunc · 08-23-2008, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dolfan19

I never said we were going to make the playoffs this year, although I believe we will be vastly improved. I am looking forward to watching the young guys progress, and seeing what kind of improvements the new players and coaches bring. You keep talking about the "unrealistic expectations" on our board. Of course we have expectations, but I defy you to find me a serious post that shows anyone here believes we are real contenders for a championship. And of course every new coaching change brings that new hope, but I don't think anyone could argue that the current staff brings a better set of credentials than anyone since JJ and co.

Also, as far as players fearing Parcells, check out articles from when Parcells first took over. Joey Porter himself stated that you could feel the difference when he walked out on the practice field. He said guys started flying around harder and faster as soon as he came out there.

The current staff has never done anything in this league. Parcells has been a mediocre GM and Sparano has never been a HC. You guys act like you have Bill Parcells coaching in his prime and Jimmy Johnson(the dallas version) picking players.

Players will ALWAYS say the new way is better coming off a bad year. I went through this as a Jet fan from the late 80s through the late 90s and every year you'd hear great things about the new staff from players then when they were gone they trashed the old regime and praised the new one. it's the same stuff that has been happening w/ you guys the pst 5-6 years. Trash wanny the praise saban, trahs sbana then praise cameron, trash Cameron then praise Sparano and if Sparano doesn't work out you'll hear players trash sparano and praise the new Coach.

dolfan19 · 08-23-2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by nyjunc

The current staff has never done anything in this league. Parcells has been a mediocre GM and Sparano has never been a HC. You guys act like you have Bill Parcells coaching in his prime and Jimmy Johnson(the dallas version) picking players.

Players will ALWAYS say the new way is better coming off a bad year. I went through this as a Jet fan from the late 80s through the late 90s and every year you'd hear great things about the new staff from players then when they were gone they trashed the old regime and praised the new one. it's the same stuff that has been happening w/ you guys the pst 5-6 years. Trash wanny the praise saban, trahs sbana then praise cameron, trash Cameron then praise Sparano and if Sparano doesn't work out you'll hear players trash sparano and praise the new Coach.

You know, you're right. After all, why should we have any enthusiasm? Our team will never be any good. We will never succeed, we will never win a game. I don't know why I didn't listen to you in the first place...

After all, who has more experience w/ hopelessness than the Jets fans, right?

Dredd1050 · 08-23-2008, 12:16 PM

The funny thing is (and I watched both Jets and phins pre-season this year so far) the two teams are pretty even in skill. I really don't think an aged, out of playing shape Favre really puts the Jets that much over a healthy, sharp Pennington lead Miami.

Dtronic · 08-23-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Vertical Limit

Saying what? That you're superstitous (sp?) enough to believe that? I got a feeling that Sparano isn't going to use the Madden Curse as part of his gameplan.

He doesn't need too. I've been saying this ever since Farve signed.

With how out of shape he is, a totally new team, and the Florida heat; there is NO WAY IN HELL he finishes the game. I already got $300 on it.

The season opener is going to be a disaster for the Jets,

K-Ro25 · 08-23-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dredd1050

The funny thing is (and I watched both Jets and phins pre-season this year so far) the two teams are pretty even in skill. I really don't think an aged, out of playing shape Favre really puts the Jets that much over a healthy, sharp Pennington lead Miami.

Based off a preseason game? The Pats look like the 70's bucs right now. I love how Brett Favre has magically transformed from a top5 QB last year to a scrub who is comparable to the Chad Pennington's of the NFL.

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Originally Posted by Dtronic

He doesn't need too. I've been saying this ever since Farve signed.

With how out of shape he is, a totally new team, and the Florida heat; there is NO WAY IN HELL he finishes the game. I already got $300 on it.

The season opener is going to be a disaster for the Jets,

I would love to see the reaction on everyones face if it was an 80 degree day at dolphin stadium and this huge heat factor wasnt there

Dredd1050 · 08-23-2008, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by K-Ro25

Based off a preseason game? The Pats look like the 70's bucs right now. I love how Brett Favre has magically transformed from a top5 QB last year to a scrub who is comparable to the Chad Pennington's of the NFL.

What are you basing your insinuated opinion on? This 38 yr old qb whos taken 30 snaps since the NFC championship game and hasn't sniffed a playoff win in years just showing up and making your team a Super Bowl champ? At least I'm looking at football, albeit pre-season. Typical Jet fan.

K-Ro25 · 08-23-2008, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dredd1050

What are you basing your insinuated opinion on? This 38 yr old qb whos taken 30 snaps since the NFC championship game and hasn't sniffed a playoff win in years just showing up and making your team a Super Bowl champ? At least I'm looking at football, albeit pre-season. Typical Jet fan.

typical fins fan. Brett Favre actually won a playoff game last year and I never mentioned SB. I just think its laughable to need a reason as to why I think Brett Favre is shoulders above Chad Pennington. Can we take the homer glasses off for a second. Brady hasnt taken a snap since the SB, Brady = JAG now?

FORMER FIN1 · 08-23-2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by K-Ro25

typical fins fan. Brett Favre actually won a playoff game last year and I never mentioned SB. I just think its laughable to need a reason as to why I think Brett Favre is shoulders above Chad Pennington. Can we take the homer glasses off for a second. Brady hasnt taken a snap since the SB, Brady = JAG now?

The patsies do look old and slow. maybe that changes in regular season but they don't look good now on any level. They had two returns for scores in the same game when is the last time you saw that. (Maybe last years pre-season

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WhiteShoeWillie · 08-23-2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtronic

He doesn't need too. I've been saying this ever since Farve signed.

With how out of shape he is, a totally new team, and the Florida heat; there is NO WAY IN HELL he finishes the game. I already got $300 on it.

The season opener is going to be a disaster for the Jets,

There's no way in hell Favre finishes the game?

I'd be more worried about Pennington finishing the game if I were you.

Dtronic · 08-23-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteShoeWillie

There's no way in hell Favre finishes the game?

I'd be more worried about Pennington finishing the game if I were you.

You are really in for a surprise.

WhiteShoeWillie · 08-23-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtronic

You are really in for a surprise.

Care to make a sig bet on this?

If Favre doesn't finish the game you put whatever you want in my sig and it stays there for a month. If he does, I own your sig for a month. Obviously the sig would have to conform to forum rules.

If he doesn't finish the game because the Jets put in the backup for mop up duty because they're killing the fins, I still win. I don't expect that to happen but I want to make it clear in case it does.

08-23-2008, 12:16 PM	#37
Dredd1050 THE LAW DOESN'T MAKE MISTAKES! Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 33 Posts: 2,650 Thanks: 23 Thanked 89 Times in 42 Posts	The funny thing is (and I watched both Jets and phins pre-season this year so far) the two teams are pretty even in skill. I really don't think an aged, out of playing shape Favre really puts the Jets that much over a healthy, sharp Pennington lead Miami. __________________ DRAAK!!!