Do you think Ted Ginn is the fastest player in the NFL??

[Jaxfan904]

40 times don't mean crap. Devin Hester ran a 4.4 at the combine but when he puts the pads on he is in a different league. If your talking about pure straight line speed from endzone to endzone in pads, Ted Ginn is the fastest... Basically he has the fastest game speed I've ever seen. Just go to youtube and watch his break away speed. He may have been faster before his foot injury, but that kick return against the Bills last year reassured me that he still has "long speed". But if you do want to talk 40 times, Ted Ginn ran a 4.22 40 before the National Championship game against Florida... Go to youtube and watch the video where he is training with the Speed and Stregnth guys. He said in person that he ran a 4.22.

[Jaxfan904]

Also, the difference between someone who runs a 4.2 and a 4.4 is about 2 yards after the 40. So it's not that big of a difference. Now watch Ted Ginn run after 40 yards and that seperation ends up being 15 to 20 yards. Which tells me he can maintain his top end speed better than anyone.

[freitas731]

I was just watching the replay of the game on NFL Network and the Miami commentators were talking about how Anthony Armstrong ran a 4.16 40 yard dash. Did anyone else hear this?

[cltchperf]

Originally Posted by Jaxfan904

40 times don't mean crap. Devin Hester ran a 4.4 at the combine but when he puts the pads on he is in a different league. If your talking about pure straight line speed from endzone to endzone in pads, Ted Ginn is the fastest... Basically he has the fastest game speed I've ever seen. Just go to youtube and watch his break away speed. He may have been faster before his foot injury, but that kick return against the Bills last year reassured me that he still has "long speed". But if you do want to talk 40 times, Ted Ginn ran a 4.22 40 before the National Championship game against Florida... Go to youtube and watch the video where he is training with the Speed and Stregnth guys. He said in person that he ran a 4.22.

Exactly, that's what I'm talking about.

[dlockz]

Originally Posted by Jaxfan904

40 times don't mean crap. Devin Hester ran a 4.4 at the combine but when he puts the pads on he is in a different league. If your talking about pure straight line speed from endzone to endzone in pads, Ted Ginn is the fastest... Basically he has the fastest game speed I've ever seen. Just go to youtube and watch his break away speed. He may have been faster before his foot injury, but that kick return against the Bills last year reassured me that he still has "long speed". But if you do want to talk 40 times, Ted Ginn ran a 4.22 40 before the National Championship game against Florida... Go to youtube and watch the video where he is training with the Speed and Stregnth guys. He said in person that he ran a 4.22.

Which equates to about an actual 4.3 because he was handtimed. Ginn is one of the fastest in the NFL but there are some players that may actually be faster including Bush, Mcpherson and Hall but its all opinion.
In my opinion the fastest football player was hershal Walker who once held the world record in the 50 yard dash.

[thefranchisedef]

you keep talking about those 4.12 bo jackson, and 4.16 armstrongs..
what about the 4.09 that teddy ran at ohio state? plus he ran a 4.3 with a messed up ankle.. he is the fastest player in the league

[HurriPhin]

The fastest time ever at the NFL combine since they started using semi-electric timing (which isn' t a completely accurate timing method) was Chris Johnson this year, 4.24. Before that it was Fabian Washington who ran something like a 4.25/4.29 depending on the source.

And the older times are especially inaccurate because they didn't even have partially electric timing back then so when you here about Bo Jackson's 4.1, Herschel Walker 4.2, etc just remember those times aren't even close to as accurate as what they use now-a-days because they were all hand-timed. In track they usually add .24 seconds to anytime hand-timed race to account for the delay it takes for human reaction when using a stopwatch. The NFL combine started using partially electric timing back in 1999, so you can't consider anything before that reliable.

[dlockz]

Originally Posted by HurriPhin

The fastest time ever at the NFL combine since they started using semi-electric timing (which isn' t a completely accurate timing method) was Chris Johnson this year, 4.24. Before that it was Fabian Washington who ran something like a 4.25/4.29 depending on the source.

And the older times are especially inaccurate because they didn't even have partially electric timing back then so when you here about Bo Jackson's 4.1, Herschel Walker 4.2, etc just remember those times aren't even close to as accurate as what they use now-a-days because they were all hand-timed. In track they usually add .24 seconds to anytime hand-timed race to account for the delay it takes for human reaction when using a stopwatch. The NFL combine started using partially electric timing back in 1999, so you can't consider anything before that reliable.

Im pretty sure u can conclude that Hershal Walker would have posted one of the best 40 times ever since he held the world record in the 50 yard dash at one point.

[dlockz]

Originally Posted by thefranchisedef

you keep talking about those 4.12 bo jackson, and 4.16 armstrongs..
what about the 4.09 that teddy ran at ohio state? plus he ran a 4.3 with a messed up ankle.. he is the fastest player in the league

nothing official about those times. Nobody can run a 4.09 in reality. Ginn runs about a 4.3 period. Ginn has never ran that speed with an electronic timing which is the most accurate.

[SpaceMountain16]

The 40 is pretty irrelevant. I never look too much into it, get excited about guys with 4.2 speed! There are plenty of examples of guys who run great 40's who cant play, and plenty of guys who are the opposite, who when they're on the field on Sunday's are faster stronger and better than their combine numbers ever could indicate. Guys like Emmitt Smith.

[dlockz]

Originally Posted by btk1

I believe if Ted Ginn is not the fastest man in the NFL we are talking hundredths of a second or so. You do realize Ted Ginn was invited to join the US Olympic team as a sophomore right? You dont get invited to the Olympic games unless you are one of the fastest men on the planet let alone the NFL.

Just my $.02

I would like some verification of this and what event? His 110 hurdles is on the list of fastest times but is not the fastest in high school and he does not even appear on the list of 100 meter times in high school. Johnathon Wade does though.

You have to earn a birth on the olympic team and not sure that Ginn is fast enough but maybe as a hurdler if had worked he could have made it.

here are the recordshttp://www.trackandfieldnews.com/lists/all_time/prepout_at_m.html

[MiamiDolfan85]

Originally Posted by Geforce

At this point I really don't care. Ginn is fast enough to make plays like the one he did tonight and that's all that matters.

With Chris Johnson running a 4.24 at the combine, he may stake claim to being the fastest player in the NFL.

actually the rookie out of Stillman,Witherspoon,is the fastes player in the league...he runs a 4.16 40...we played him last week vs the Jags....the commentors were even talking about him

buy last night,they were sayin Anthony Armstrong runs a 4.18 40...so Id imagine those are the two fast players in the NFL,one commentor even said so...

[bigbade]

Originally Posted by Geforce

At this point I really don't care. Ginn is fast enough to make plays like the one he did tonight and that's all that matters.

With Chris Johnson running a 4.24 at the combine, he may stake claim to being the fastest player in the NFL.

Yea Ginn is fast but Johnson is probably the fastest I believe that 40 time is the official fastest time ever

[clevelandm13]

No! he's probably not the fastest on our team. Armstrong #1. But he is plenty fast enough! And since his hands have caught up to his feet look out pro bowl!!!!

[dlockz]

Here are some actual Times from track and field.

2008 track and field 100 meters

Finals
1 Richard Thompson SR LSU 10.12 -0.5
2 Travis Padgett JR Clemson 10.16 -0.5
3 Trindon Holliday SO LSU 10.18 -0.5
4 Walter Dix SR Fla State 10.22 -0.5
5 Jacoby Ford SO Clemson 10.33 -0.5
6 Jeremy Hall SO Florida 10.36 -0.5
7 Teddy Williams SO Texas-San Anton 10.40 -0.5

8 Kendall May SO Miss State 10.44 -0.5

MAIN PERSON OF NOTE Jacoby Ford of Clemson


From 2006

100-meter dash:

1. Xavier Carter, LSU, 10.09; 2.
Walter Dix, Florida St., 10.18; 3. Demi Omole,
Wisconsin, 10.21; 4. Travis Padgett, Clemson, 10.24; 5.
Jamaal Charles, Texas, 10.27; 6. Churandy Martina,
UTEP, 10.29; 7. Tyrone Edgar, Texas A&M, 10.31; 8.
Leroy Dixon, South Carolina, 10.42.

200-meter dash:

1. Walter Dix, Florida St., 20.30; 2.
Kelly Willie, LSU, 20.48; 3. Rubin Williams, Tennessee,
20.49; 4. Churandy Martina, UTEP, 20.62; 5. Willie
Perry, Florida, 20.64; 6. Orlando Reid, Middle Tenn.,
20.98; 7. Jamaal Charles, Texas, 21.02; 8. Michael Ray
Garvin, Florida St., 21.05.

400-meter dash:

1. Xavier Carter, LSU, 44.53; 2.
Ricardo Chambers, Florida St., 44.71; 3. David Neville,
Indiana, 44.94; 4. Lewis Banda, TCU, 45.10; 5. Matt
Scherer, Oregon, 45.41; 6. Lionel Larry, Southern
California, 45.43; 7. Craig Everhart, UCLA, 45.70; 8.

Aaron Buzard, Minnesota, 45.91.

Notice that Jamal Charles was pretty damn fast at track and carter from LSU beat olmpic bronze medalist Dix.