Does it seem....

Predaphin · 11-10-2002, 10:04 PM

like the refs are against us? and the commentators favor us? .....That was a TD by Chambers, we got robbed 4 points! we must stop these dumb penalties....:mad:

Barbarian · 11-10-2002, 10:08 PM

we were definately robbed on the TD catch... this sucks.

4thAndLong · 11-10-2002, 10:11 PM

It wasn't a TD.

The rule is he has to have the ball when he hits the ground. Chambers lost control of the ball when he hit.

Dont blame the refs, they didn't write the rulebook.

We had something like this turned back against the Texans.

Scrap · 11-10-2002, 10:39 PM

It does seem as if they are against us.

Denny · 11-11-2002, 12:20 AM

your a *******. He had the ball when his two FEET HIT THE ground. 2 feet down and possession= a catch. He lost the ball after all this occurred

Prime Time · 11-11-2002, 12:35 AM

yea he did

breckenridge55 · 11-11-2002, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 4thAndLong
It wasn't a TD.

The rule is he has to have the ball when he hits the ground. Chambers lost control of the ball when he hit.

Dont blame the refs, they didn't write the rulebook.

We had something like this turned back against the Texans.

So you're trying to tell me that if he catches the ball in the endzone and then starts celebrating, but someone gets pissed off and drills him and the ball comes out of his hands and hits the ground 10 seconds after the catch, it's incomplete?

You know you would be throwing a remote at the TV if that was Moulds that they called it against. Besides, the ground forced the ball out. What if you catch the ball in the middle of the field at the 50 yard line. Have possession, turn around, and get hit, you fall to the ground (still have possession) and then when you hit the ground, the ball pops out. That's incomplete? If you ask me, it's like a ground forced fumble. You have possession and the ground caused a fumble. But in Chambers' case, he was out of bounds already before the ground caused the fumble.

dolfan87 · 11-11-2002, 12:45 AM

It's a strange rule, but you have to make a football move, or if you are falling down maintain possesion as you hit the ground. It should be changed for sideline, and endzone catches, but that is the rule.

The refs called it right, it's just a ******* rule.

DolFan31 · 11-11-2002, 12:48 AM

I know refereeing in the NBA is rigged.I know boxing is rigged.Im sure a few important hockey and soccer games have been rigged.Im sure a few Yankee games have been too.Ive always been pretty much in favor of NFL officiating,and i know this one guy,i think his name is Phil something,the same guy who messed up the coin toss on that Thanksgiving day game,who really really sucks and every game is see him on(Dolphins and others) he messes up.This year,tho,it does seem the officials are against us.Ive always been nuetral on this issue in the NFL,but this year,something smells fishy(no pun intended).

FinHeavenAJ · 11-11-2002, 12:50 AM

Ok... can someone then explain how it is different when a running back runs into the endzone and fumbles it? I've seen it many times, and its always ruled a TD.

Different player, same theory...

dolfan87 · 11-11-2002, 12:53 AM

Different situation AJ. Once the running back breaks the goal line, the drive is over. It makes no difference what he does once the ball goes across that white line.

In a catch situation, the player has to establish certain criteria. That is the difference.

Muck · 11-11-2002, 12:54 AM

I thought Chambers had possession and then lost it AFTER he hit the ground.

baccarat · 11-11-2002, 12:56 AM

So are you telling me that a WR has to catch the ball, get both feet down, maintain possession(all of which Chambers did), and then hold on to the ball after he hits the sidelines?

JTK · 11-11-2002, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adphinistrator87
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The refs called it right, it's just a ******* rule.

This is right guys! The refs did call it right. It is a really stupid rule!

Angneli · 11-11-2002, 12:57 AM

Did Phil Luckett officiate this game? He's the worst official I have ever seen. However, injured Fiedler or not this game should not have been close. From the last two 'Phins games that I have seen. Zach Thomas is the only one who is even trying.

11-10-2002, 10:08 PM	#2
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Scrap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Hopewell,Va. Age: 36 Posts: 8,313 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	It does seem as if they are against us. __________________ To all who post on FinHeaven: Please Practice Kindness.

11-11-2002, 12:20 AM	#5
Denny GENERAL MANAGER Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 306 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	4th and long your a *******. He had the ball when his two FEET HIT THE ground. 2 feet down and possession= a catch. He lost the ball after all this occurred

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11-11-2002, 12:45 AM	#8
dolfan87 The Human Bullet Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Arizona Age: 36 Posts: 3,790 Thanks: 18 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts FH Badges Total Awards: 1	It's a strange rule, but you have to make a football move, or if you are falling down maintain possesion as you hit the ground. It should be changed for sideline, and endzone catches, but that is the rule. The refs called it right, it's just a ***** rule. __________________ Check Out two New Songs By "Out Of Ruin"**

11-10-2002, 10:11 PM	#3
4thAndLong Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 101 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It wasn't a TD. The rule is he has to have the ball when he hits the ground. Chambers lost control of the ball when he hit. Dont blame the refs, they didn't write the rulebook. We had something like this turned back against the Texans.

11-11-2002, 12:48 AM	#9
DolFan31 aka FinSane Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale,FL Age: 22 Posts: 6,559 Thanks: 142 Thanked 47 Times in 36 Posts	I know refereeing in the NBA is rigged.I know boxing is rigged.Im sure a few important hockey and soccer games have been rigged.Im sure a few Yankee games have been too.Ive always been pretty much in favor of NFL officiating,and i know this one guy,i think his name is Phil something,the same guy who messed up the coin toss on that Thanksgiving day game,who really really sucks and every game is see him on(Dolphins and others) he messes up.This year,tho,it does seem the officials are against us.Ive always been nuetral on this issue in the NFL,but this year,something smells fishy(no pun intended).

11-11-2002, 12:50 AM	#10
FinHeavenAJ FinHeaven Lives Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 24 Posts: 3,514 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts FH Badges Total Awards: 1	Ok... can someone then explain how it is different when a running back runs into the endzone and fumbles it? I've seen it many times, and its always ruled a TD. Different player, same theory... __________________ AJ Tatum "If carrots got you drunk, rabbits would be messed up." - Mitch Hedberg

11-11-2002, 12:53 AM	#11
dolfan87 The Human Bullet Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Arizona Age: 36 Posts: 3,790 Thanks: 18 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts FH Badges Total Awards: 1	Different situation AJ. Once the running back breaks the goal line, the drive is over. It makes no difference what he does once the ball goes across that white line. In a catch situation, the player has to establish certain criteria. That is the difference. __________________ Check Out two New Songs By "Out Of Ruin"

11-11-2002, 12:54 AM	#12
Muck Now completely imaginary Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Elsewhere Age: 29 Posts: 30,186 Thanks: 47 Thanked 486 Times in 158 Posts FH Badges Total Awards: 1	I thought Chambers had possession and then lost it AFTER he hit the ground. __________________ Goodbye

11-11-2002, 12:56 AM	#13
baccarat Adam the Quarterback Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,612 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	So are you telling me that a WR has to catch the ball, get both feet down, maintain possession(all of which Chambers did), and then hold on to the ball after he hits the sidelines?

11-11-2002, 12:57 AM	#15
Angneli Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 296 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Did Phil Luckett officiate this game? He's the worst official I have ever seen. However, injured Fiedler or not this game should not have been close. From the last two 'Phins games that I have seen. Zach Thomas is the only one who is even trying. __________________ "On the run from Johnny Law, ain't no trip to Cleveland."

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