Dolphins beat Jets in the draft's first round - Page 2

nyjunc · 09-02-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dolpns13

Well said..

No offense though, I'm hoping he's a bust

That goes w/o saying, we hope all opposing teams picks are busts

hemidemon · 09-02-2008, 03:20 PM

The Jets don't have anyone on their staff as good as Ireland. We'll be beating the Jets in the draft and on the field for years to come.

SR 7 · 09-02-2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dolphinator86

Dude Gholston "MAY" be good one day but there is no reason he went #6 overall. Coming up to draft time a statement like this was made.....if you look at him on tape he is a late first rounder, if you look at his workout numbers he is a top 15 pick, if you see him without a shirt hes a top 10 pick. So he had a big game against Michigan well he stunk it up against LSU.

The jets spent the farm and probably screwed their future with this off season. It better pay off or Jet fans will riot and tear down the city cause y'all are crazy like that.

BUT you pay off is gonna have to start week 2 after the Dolphins win in week one

very well said. one thing they did is waht miami did wiht saban, they went for old proven vets that will only last for 2-3 years of avg play then out of no where u get the downfall we encountered.

fishypete · 09-02-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nyjunc

2 years ago Thomas had 8 1/2 sacks and Gholston wasn't drafted to start right away. Thomas is a good player and we expect a bounce back year w/ pace on the other side. W/ that logic I guess Merling is a bust b/c he couldn't beat out Vonnie Holliday who had 2 sacks last year? henne is a bust b/c he couldn't beat out a QB who was 1-7 as a starter a year ago? It's silly to call guys busts before they have played a reg season game.

First I believe Holliday had injuries last season...and Merling wasn't the 6th overall player taken in the draft....bad comparision. I didn't say anyone was a bust...perhaps thats the way you picture it really...eh?

Any player taken in the top 10-15 spots should be starting....thats why they are rated so high.

Nublar7 · 09-02-2008, 03:37 PM

I said this from day one(even before the Jets drafted him), that Gholsten had the most potential out of any projected first round pick to become an absolute bust. This news about him struggling right now, does not surprise me one bit.

Vaark · 09-02-2008, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nyjunc

2 years ago Thomas had 8 1/2 sacks and Gholston wasn't drafted to start right away. Thomas is a good player and we expect a bounce back year w/ pace on the other side. W/ that logic I guess Merling is a bust b/c he couldn't beat out Vonnie Holliday who had 2 sacks last year? henne is a bust b/c he couldn't beat out a QB who was 1-7 as a starter a year ago? It's silly to call guys busts before they have played a reg season game.

Pace conveniently woke up in his contract year, but looking at his pro body of work, as my buddy passionately argues seeing more than enough of him as a long-term Cardinals season ticket holder, Pace is far from an accomplished defender; now with a fat contract under his belt, expecting a "bounce" is at best optimistic. Not too many tears shed over his departure out in the sandy land of the Seguras!

dolpns13 · 09-02-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SR 7

very well said. one thing they did is waht miami did wiht saban, they went for old proven vets that will only last for 2-3 years of avg play then out of no where u get the downfall we encountered.

ManGYNA will be fired just in time for Cam to become a head coach again

Raoul Duke · 09-02-2008, 03:49 PM

dude gholston is going to be a stud. like the jets fan said (and god do i hate freakin agreeing with anything that has New York in its name) Mario Williams was labeled a bust but now you have to gameplan around williams and creat blocking schemes to stop him.

dolpns13 · 09-02-2008, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fishypete

First I believe Holliday had injuries last season...and Merling wasn't the 6th overall player taken in the draft....bad comparision. I didn't say anyone was a bust...perhaps thats the way you picture it really...eh?

Any player taken in the top 10-15 spots should be starting....thats why they are rated so high.

I have to agree here for the most part. Anyone in the top ten, who gets a huge signing bonus, should really be starting.

dolpns13 · 09-02-2008, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Raoul Duke

like the jets fan said (and god do i hate freakin agreeing with anything that has New York in its name) Mario Williams was labeled a bust but now you have to gameplan around williams and creat blocking schemes to stop him.

I agree here too

FINatic054 · 09-02-2008, 04:12 PM

J-e-t-s Suck Suck Suck!!!

FINatic054 · 09-02-2008, 04:13 PM

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FINatic054 · 09-02-2008, 04:13 PM

J-e-t-s Suck Suck Suck!!

Crazy685 · 09-02-2008, 04:18 PM

Guys, Mario Williams is a league above Vernon Gholston. Gholston is a one more pure pass rusher while Mario Williams is the most complete defensive end to come out of the draft since Julius Peppers.

Dolfan1000 · 09-02-2008, 04:23 PM

The Merling/Holliday and Henne/Pennington comparisons would be viable if these guys were drafted #6, as Vernon Gholston was. Not the same as a #2 or #3 pick. Worlds of difference, actually.

And please. Dont try and tell me that the staff didnt plan on him overtaking Bryan Thomas. He has not come along as quickly as they had hoped, which is fine, but quit feeding us this garbage about "the plan" not being for him to contribute in his first year.

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09-02-2008, 03:20 PM	#17
hemidemon Starter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 674 Thanks: 87 Thanked 136 Times in 78 Posts	The Jets don't have anyone on their staff as good as Ireland. We'll be beating the Jets in the draft and on the field for years to come.

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Raoul Duke Connoisseur of the Herbage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tampa, FL Age: 22 Posts: 653 Thanks: 40 Thanked 36 Times in 28 Posts	dude gholston is going to be a stud. like the jets fan said (and god do i hate freakin agreeing with anything that has New York in its name) Mario Williams was labeled a bust but now you have to gameplan around williams and creat blocking schemes to stop him.

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FINatic054 Scout Team Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 84 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	J-e-t-s Suck Suck Suck!!!

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Crazy685 Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 23 Posts: 684 Thanks: 10 Thanked 64 Times in 41 Posts	Guys, Mario Williams is a league above Vernon Gholston. Gholston is a one more pure pass rusher while Mario Williams is the most complete defensive end to come out of the draft since Julius Peppers.

09-02-2008, 04:23 PM	#30
Dolfan1000 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,450 Thanks: 46 Thanked 273 Times in 161 Posts	The Merling/Holliday and Henne/Pennington comparisons would be viable if these guys were drafted #6, as Vernon Gholston was. Not the same as a #2 or #3 pick. Worlds of difference, actually. And please. Dont try and tell me that the staff didnt plan on him overtaking Bryan Thomas. He has not come along as quickly as they had hoped, which is fine, but quit feeding us this garbage about "the plan" not being for him to contribute in his first year.