Dolphins' Beck in the saddle again

hugoguzman · 01-22-2008, 11:29 AM

My colleague Joseph Mayes has interesting take on Beck and the Dolphins QB situation:
http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/articles/21035.html

Do you agree that Beck is the longterm answer at QB?

dolpns13 · 01-22-2008, 11:34 AM

He absolutely cannot be judged on last years performance. we need to give him a full season, and that doesnt mean if he starts and stinks it up with mistakes that we can him in 09 either. If he still makes mistakes, but also makes plays, we give him another year. Prime example is Eli.

burger13 · 01-22-2008, 11:34 AM

Anyone who says yes in just hoping. Anyone who says no is rushing to judgement. Patience.

NMPhinsFan · 01-22-2008, 11:40 AM

He has potential but it is still too early to tell. I wouldn't mind bringing in a legit QB either via free agentcy or the middle rounds of the draft in order to test him during the preseason. Nothing wrong with a little competition.

Breed · 01-22-2008, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burger13

Anyone who says yes in just hoping. Anyone who says no is rushing to judgement. Patience.

Agreed, but he's going to need to play at a decent level in '08 to avoid that bust label.

adamprez2003 · 01-22-2008, 11:43 AM

Just being able to scramble is not enough today. Beck must prove he can throw while on the move. If he can do that he has a chance. If not, his scrambling ability is useless

FINSFAN2781 · 01-22-2008, 11:48 AM

Everyone hopes he is, but he needs a full season under his belt before anyone could make that call. I was thrilled when we drafted him, I was thrilled when they finally made him the starter, but like any rookie, you expect the mistakes. Thats why it was important Beck got as much gametime last year as he could. I believe Beck will be our starting QB for the start of the 08 season unless Parcells and Co. believe hes not ready or is not their QB which I dont think is the case.

JsBaugh · 01-22-2008, 12:15 PM

I think most rational fans realize that its to early to claim anything on Beck. Last year was a wash as the team was horrible with little talent. Not a fair evaluation of Becks ability. Give him 08 to develop and then make a judgement. I would bet that is what BP and company are going to do.

Rocky Raccoon · 01-22-2008, 12:17 PM

I've seen flashes out of him to be optimistic. The way he rebounded after that first snap in the last game showed me a lot as well. We'll see though.

gunn34 · 01-22-2008, 12:17 PM

2 early 2 tell

burger13 · 01-22-2008, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breed

Agreed, but he's going to need to play at a decent level in '08 to avoid that bust label.

Absolutely....he has A LOT to prove. But he hasn't had his chance to prove it yet. hopefully he will have his chance and succeed in 08.

SabanHater · 01-22-2008, 12:34 PM

we'll see. time can only tell, but for some reason I do feel confident about this guy.

steeda · 01-22-2008, 12:36 PM

Like Ginn, I think beck can perform with the right surrounding cast and system, IMO. But it's still way too early to judge Beck on his performance in 3 regular season games.

inFINSible · 01-22-2008, 12:48 PM

I think he's the long term answer. No ifs, ands or buts about it in my mind. Call it hope and prayer or whatever you want but, I'm 98% positive he's going to be a great one.

The only thing that could derail his career is injuries.

This is my opinion, it is not subject to change due to anyone having a different opinion. John Beck is the only person that can change my opinion.

StLouisFinFan · 01-22-2008, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamprez2003

Just being able to scramble is not enough today. Beck must prove he can throw while on the move. If he can do that he has a chance. If not, his scrambling ability is useless

Adam, did you not see the last TD strike in the Bengals game? I believe I recall you mentioning you didn't get to seet that game, and that play. Anyway, that single play along restored alot of confidence for me, and not because of the result. It was a 7 step drop, he planted, bounced a few times while going through his progressions from left to right, and then suddenly bolted out of the pocket to an open space to the right (apparently heard the rush coming from the back side; and he was about a half second from gettting taken down) and while on the run threw about a 25 yard spiralled dart into the back right corner of the end zone for Hagan. I was excited b/c in one play, he showed he could "sense" the pressure, that his first instinct was to bolt out of the pocket for open space while keeping his eyes downfield (as opposed to some QBs who sense the pressure and fold up anticipating the hit), and threw a laser strike on the run. All of this, mind you, after having endured the embarrasment he caused himself with that first snap/fumble/TD; that took someone with guts to hold himself together.

You and I obviously differ on our opinion of JB, but I'll say that while I'm not totally sold on him (need to see more of him), I do believe he has the raw talent to pull it off and be a big time winner. He'll never be a Marino, but he'll be the best Mormon QB this town has ever seen! (LOL)

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01-22-2008, 11:34 AM	#2
dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Jersey Age: 33 Posts: 9,159 Thanks: 521 Thanked 882 Times in 551 Posts	He absolutely cannot be judged on last years performance. we need to give him a full season, and that doesnt mean if he starts and stinks it up with mistakes that we can him in 09 either. If he still makes mistakes, but also makes plays, we give him another year. Prime example is Eli. __________________ I believe any man's finest hour - his greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle...Victorious *Thanks for the sig Hater!*

01-22-2008, 11:34 AM	#3
burger13 FinHeaven VIP Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South Jersey Age: 31 Posts: 4,683 Thanks: 273 Thanked 556 Times in 306 Posts FH Badges Total Awards: 1	Anyone who says yes in just hoping. Anyone who says no is rushing to judgement. Patience. __________________

01-22-2008, 11:43 AM	#6
adamprez2003 FinHeaven VIP Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New York Posts: 11,903 Thanks: 511 Thanked 504 Times in 323 Posts	Just being able to scramble is not enough today. Beck must prove he can throw while on the move. If he can do that he has a chance. If not, his scrambling ability is useless __________________ Better than Chris Long and Vernon Gholston PHILLIP MERLING

01-22-2008, 11:48 AM	#7
FINSFAN2781 The Tuna era has begun. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The good ol' state of New Jersey Age: 27 Posts: 1,069 Thanks: 61 Thanked 108 Times in 70 Posts	Everyone hopes he is, but he needs a full season under his belt before anyone could make that call. I was thrilled when we drafted him, I was thrilled when they finally made him the starter, but like any rookie, you expect the mistakes. Thats why it was important Beck got as much gametime last year as he could. I believe Beck will be our starting QB for the start of the 08 season unless Parcells and Co. believe hes not ready or is not their QB which I dont think is the case. __________________ ALL HAIL TO THE FINS. Where a buck's enough to see their stuff, at the nudie bar.

01-22-2008, 11:40 AM	#4
NMPhinsFan Scout Team Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Age: 20 Posts: 46 Thanks: 9 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	He has potential but it is still too early to tell. I wouldn't mind bringing in a legit QB either via free agentcy or the middle rounds of the draft in order to test him during the preseason. Nothing wrong with a little competition.

01-22-2008, 12:15 PM	#8
JsBaugh Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 334 Thanks: 2 Thanked 98 Times in 51 Posts	I think most rational fans realize that its to early to claim anything on Beck. Last year was a wash as the team was horrible with little talent. Not a fair evaluation of Becks ability. Give him 08 to develop and then make a judgement. I would bet that is what BP and company are going to do.

01-22-2008, 12:17 PM	#9
Rocky Raccoon FinHeaven Elite Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Jersey Age: 22 Posts: 10,292 Thanks: 4 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts	I've seen flashes out of him to be optimistic. The way he rebounded after that first snap in the last game showed me a lot as well. We'll see though.

01-22-2008, 12:17 PM	#10
gunn34 Pro Bowler Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oviedo Florida Age: 45 Posts: 2,509 Thanks: 245 Thanked 68 Times in 38 Posts	2 early 2 tell __________________ He will one day replace Jason Taylor. On the field, not on dancing with the stars.

01-22-2008, 12:34 PM	#12
SabanHater Hater in the House! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Philadelphia Age: 29 Posts: 3,785 Thanks: 525 Thanked 598 Times in 319 Posts	we'll see. time can only tell, but for some reason I do feel confident about this guy. __________________

01-22-2008, 12:36 PM	#13
steeda FinHeaven VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Age: 28 Posts: 934 Thanks: 61 Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts	Like Ginn, I think beck can perform with the right surrounding cast and system, IMO. But it's still way too early to judge Beck on his performance in 3 regular season games. __________________

01-22-2008, 12:48 PM	#14
inFINSible Don't believe everything you think. Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: your six Age: 41 Posts: 26,236 Thanks: 249 Thanked 214 Times in 76 Posts FH Badges Total Awards: 1	I think he's the long term answer. No ifs, ands or buts about it in my mind. Call it hope and prayer or whatever you want but, I'm 98% positive he's going to be a great one. The only thing that could derail his career is injuries. This is my opinion, it is not subject to change due to anyone having a different opinion. John Beck is the only person that can change my opinion. __________________ At a television studio in Hollywood on Monday night, Dolphins defensive end Jason Taylor was doing the fox trot. He probably was wearing makeup, too. About an hour south down Interstate 5, quarterback John Beck was on the verge of lining up his chicken nuggets in a shotgun formation.

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