Dolphins list: Irreplaceable players

BAMAPHIN 22 · 07-23-2008, 01:36 PM

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Irreplaceable list....

1. NT Jason Ferguson - You guys and gals must think I have an infatuation with this guy but the truth is the 3-4 defense DOESN'T WORK WITHOUT A PRODUCTIVE NOSE TACKLE who can hold his ground, taking on two blockers every play. If you don't believe me think back at the Payless-knockoff version of the 3-4 the Dolphins tried to run last season with a dinosaur like Keith Traylor as the starting nose tackle. Remember that one, the one which had the Dolphins as the NFL's WORSE team against the run? Randy Starks and Paul Soliai are the ONLY possible replacements for Ferguson, and that's not a good thing.

2. CB Will Allen - He might not be a turnover producing machine because of his hands of stone, but his receiver is usually closely defended. Last season Allen was the cornerback used in the most roles and was fairly effective blitzing from the nickel spot. Depth, and the talent level at cornerback, is already thin. Imagine if the Dolphins lose their best one to some kind of season-ending injury.

3. WR Ted Ginn Jr. - There is no other stretch the field receiver on this team, and without Ginn Dan Henning's offense won't work effectively because there's no reason for safeties to stay honest in coverage, roaming deep to protect their cornerbacks facing a vertical threat. Without Ginn who else has the speed to run the 9-route (a deep bomb) effectively, and actually get open? Derek Hagan? Ernest Wilford? Greg Camarillo? David Kircus is the best answer I could come up with based on what I saw during minicamp, and that's not a good thing. This issue must be addressed before the regular season starts. Also, who is going to serve as the kick returner if Ginn goes down?

4. LT Jake Long - Protecting the blindside of your quarterback is no easy task. But that's the assignment the Dolphins No. 1 pick has been handed as a rookie. He's got the size and skill level to do it at a pretty high level eventually. Long just needs to get his feet wet. Wouldn't it be a shame to see some kind of season-ending injury derail the baptism by fire he'll likely receive this season? While Vernon Carey could fill in on the left side, moving him over there would create another hole that Julius Wilson would be best served to fill.

5. OLB Joey Porter - Opposing offenses have to fear someone on the other side of the line of scrimmage and with Taylor gone Porter is the next in line. While Porter had a slow start to 2007 for numerous reasons (knee injury, playing out of his familiar scheme, constant losing) he's still perceived as a dangerous pass rushing threat. It's already hard enough finding a replacement for 99, imagine how impossible it would be to find a suitable fill-in for Porter too.

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SpaceMountain16 · 07-23-2008, 01:41 PM

Can we wait until Jake Long plays a game before we call him irreplaceable?

tcolli17 · 07-23-2008, 11:29 PM

No, we don't have any tackles. Him and Vernon are irreplaceable for this year. At this point, any injuries will kill any hopes of a good year.

phin2004 · 07-23-2008, 11:44 PM

Will Allen at #2? Why is everybody so high on him? He's okay, but i think they need to address the CB spot in next years draft and FA unless both of the starting CB's have pro bowl seasons.

I would have added Samson Satele to that list. He looks like he could be our starting center for the next 10 years.

GRYPHONK · 07-24-2008, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by phin2004

Will Allen at #2? Why is everybody so high on him? He's okay, but i think they need to address the CB spot in next years draft and FA unless both of the starting CB's have pro bowl seasons.

I would have added Samson Satele to that list. He looks like he could be our starting center for the next 10 years.

Probably because he is our only lEgit CB. If he goes down our secondary is toast

phin2004 · 07-24-2008, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GRYPHONK

Probably because he is our only lEgit CB. If he goes down our secondary is toast

I just think we need to improve the CB spot. There is a reason the Giants didn't want him around anymore. He's a decent corner, but he's not gonna play like Madison and Surtain did early in this decade, and the late 90's.

WaywardZest · 07-24-2008, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by phin2004

I just think we need to improve the CB spot. There is a reason the Giants didn't want him around anymore. He's a decent corner, but he's not gonna play like Madison and Surtain did early in this decade, and the late 90's.

Well, of course, he isn't shutdown like they were, but he is very good. If he didn't drop so many interceptions, he could have been Pro Bowl last year.

ojmcduffy · 07-24-2008, 02:24 AM

well ronnie brown schould be added to this list. I know we got ricky and all but lets be honest. Ronnie brown is the only star on this team.

SarahAnn · 07-24-2008, 02:40 AM

Wow, I dont agree with anyone on that list...

Layfield · 07-24-2008, 05:41 AM

This is a measure of replaceablility and not necesarrily talent. They saying that if the dolphins lost anyone of these players that we would be f'd. It doesnt mean Jake Long is good it means hes our only left tackle.

With that said I agree with this list.

thedayafter · 07-24-2008, 08:23 AM

Every player is replacable on the Dolphins....

emeraldfin · 07-24-2008, 08:35 AM

Could do without losing any of our starters

fairbanksb · 07-24-2008, 10:08 AM

If Thomas and Taylor are replaceable than so is everybody else.

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07-23-2008, 01:41 PM	#2
SpaceMountain16 The Loose Cannon Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 3,258 Credits: 47 Thanks: 89 Thanked 629 Times in 382 Posts	Can we wait until Jake Long plays a game before we call him irreplaceable? __________________ It's not negativity, it's realism, and beneath it all there is only passion. -- GO DOLPHINS --

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tcolli17 Rookie Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 172 Credits: 95 Thanks: 37 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts	No, we don't have any tackles. Him and Vernon are irreplaceable for this year. At this point, any injuries will kill any hopes of a good year.

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phin2004 Rookie Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tampa Posts: 192 Credits: 7,329 Thanks: 27 Thanked 36 Times in 17 Posts	Will Allen at #2? Why is everybody so high on him? He's okay, but i think they need to address the CB spot in next years draft and FA unless both of the starting CB's have pro bowl seasons. I would have added Samson Satele to that list. He looks like he could be our starting center for the next 10 years.

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ojmcduffy Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 851 Credits: 236 Thanks: 47 Thanked 49 Times in 30 Posts	well ronnie brown schould be added to this list. I know we got ricky and all but lets be honest. Ronnie brown is the only star on this team.

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Layfield Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 18 Posts: 170 Credits: 571 Thanks: 64 Thanked 20 Times in 12 Posts	This is a measure of replaceablility and not necesarrily talent. They saying that if the dolphins lost anyone of these players that we would be f'd. It doesnt mean Jake Long is good it means hes our only left tackle. With that said I agree with this list.

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thedayafter Pro Bowler Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,485 Credits: 1,398 Thanks: 6 Thanked 54 Times in 35 Posts	Every player is replacable on the Dolphins....