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Old 08-01-2008, 03:58 PM   #76
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Wow there's a Bills fan hammering our QBs? Dont you need to go worry about Marshawn Lynch not hitting you with his SUV?

Just leave our QB position to the people who get paid to worry about it, and I think that John Beck has proven more then Trent Edwards. Also, our O-line unlike years passed, is pretty much set going into preseason for once, so we will play atleast mostly cohesively at the beginning of the season.
Wow. I'm not saying Beck is doomed because he does get a free pass from last year, but I'm interested to know how he has proven more than Edwards?
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Old 08-03-2008, 11:38 AM   #77
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I had heard stories that the Texans were looking at drafting Ginn. Unfortunately all these stories were on the TV, and mostly from Cam himself, so I can't find a link to them.

Either way I think it's too early to decide how good a pick Ginn was. Willis and Landry are both good, but how much do they have to do on their own? They have good players around them to take off some of the heat. Ginn doesn't. I think you'll see a lot more of Ginn being an impact player if he keeps returning punts for us. Parcell's is hell bent on improving special teams. Ginn has shown that he can do some damage if he gets some down field blocking. He got basically none of it last year, but should get more this year.

Landry was picked before Ginn at the #6 spots and we weren't exactly hurting for defense the year before. Cam was trying to put together a respectable offense before the defense got old. Unfortunatly it got old that year.

Ginn wasn't a franchise pick based on his first year, but his career will be longer than that.
Willis went to a horrible defense and instantly made them better. Okoye would have also been a good pick up. I mentioned Landry because he was available at 6, the Skins had Taylor and needed picks - we could have moved up three slots if we wanted to.

While some may think the jury is still out on Ginn - I don't subscribe to that. Ginn had done nothing since his freshman year (which he was two years removed from his draft year). Nearly all of his highlights are from his frosh season and he did not finish in the top 20 in any WR or ST statistical category his senior year - yet we blew a #9 pick on him. Whether or not he turns out OK is beside the point - as the point is what would have been the best use of that pick for the team - and Ginn wasn't it.

I will not argue whether or not Quinn would have been the better QB - who knows (personally, I think he will be), but our defense - contrary to popular opinion - was in dire need in that draft. I did pay attention to Bates 4 years ago now when he said that the defense was performing well but it was going to collapse without infusion of young talent. Last off-season, I advocated trading Zach and drafting Willis. I also advocated trading JT - when I thought we could have gotten a 1st. So, here we are one year later and we have lost both Zach and JT for a 2nd and a 6th, don't have a franchise MLB, and have arguably one of the worst WR corps in the NFL - that has a #9 pick on it.
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