Here's What I Think So Far

[Valandui]

Originally Posted by The Ghost

I agree with alot of what you said except the idea of taking a WR in the first round.

Ginn is going be worth the pick he was drafted at, you can't make that kind of investment twice in 3 years when your rebuilding a team.

CB first, like someone said Jenkins or Davis. Hoping Jenkins because he's a pure corner where as Davis is an athlete playing corner.

It may not even be necessary if Hagan explodes this season as it looks like he might.

[bdmagnum]

Originally Posted by DearbornDolfan

The guy's pretty much a rookie (even Tony said so) and right now is trying to overcome the trauma of being thrown to the wolves last season. I'm fairly confident that between two-a-days, scrimmages, and pre-season games we'll have a serviceable QB in Beck by the time the regular season rolls around.

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, let's stop this common sense right here, right now

[bdmagnum]

Originally Posted by The Ghost

I agree with alot of what you said except the idea of taking a WR in the first round.

Ginn is going be worth the pick he was drafted at, you can't make that kind of investment twice in 3 years when your rebuilding a team.

CB first, like someone said Jenkins or Davis. Hoping Jenkins because he's a pure corner where as Davis is an athlete playing corner.

Why not? Detroit did it

[undefeatedfin]

I wonder what Dan could have done with Cam as a coach and the players Beck had around him.

[SammySmif]

I am kind of surprised that Ginn can not get separation. That is disappointing to be honest.

I disagree that Beck starts. I think it is Henne or McCown.

I think we run a lot also. It will be a play action offense, which should help the WRs get open.

I think Fasano could catch more passes then a lot of our WRs.

[ZachThomas76]

Originally Posted by bdmagnum

Why not? Detroit did it

and now they have Calvin Johnson and Roy Williams. if a retard like Matt Millen can hit twice, why cant we? lol Even if Ginn develops and is worth the 9th overall selection, and thats a huge if IMO, we still need to find another good to stud wr. I dont think we can go wrong in the 1st round next year if we pick in the 7-10 range. We can get a good cb, wr or lb.

[Mcganiel]

Originally Posted by DearbornDolfan

The guy's pretty much a rookie (even Tony said so) and right now is trying to overcome the trauma of being thrown to the wolves last season. I'm fairly confident that between two-a-days, scrimmages, and pre-season games we'll have a serviceable QB in Beck by the time the regular season rolls around.

I totally agree. I can't believe the way our fans and local sports writers are bashing Beck. He got thrown to the wolves last year on a team that quit on him. Now the fans are quiting on him after one week of practice and one scrimmage.

[ChambersWI]

Originally Posted by The Ghost

I agree with alot of what you said except the idea of taking a WR in the first round.

Ginn is going be worth the pick he was drafted at, you can't make that kind of investment twice in 3 years when your rebuilding a team.

CB first, like someone said Jenkins or Davis. Hoping Jenkins because he's a pure corner where as Davis is an athlete playing corner.

don't necessarily agree with the statement about Davis. Davis is a freakish athlete (not like his big brother, but pretty good), and is a very physical CB that is probably only a notch or 2 below Jenkins entering the season.

I won't object to WR if we need one, but Heyward-Bay? Good measurables, but not my choice.

[Vaark]

I think if the QB play sux and Henne ends up starting and disappoints say, over the last 4-6 games we should give some serious consideration, if we're drafting that high, to select Matthew Stafford if he again lives up to his advance billing as the real deal this year on the field. Otherwise I mostly agree with your assessment.

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[maverick50]

Originally Posted by Valandui

It may not even be necessary if Hagan explodes this season as it looks like he might.

I respectfully disagree with you Valandui, here is why, if we take a wr that is not proven and we have passed on guys that are , it tells me the dolphins are not serious about winning . If a player doesnt improve from year 1 to year 2 then chances are we got a medicore player at best.
I really feel that Ginn and beck will be bust I just cant see them improving yet but there is time but we have turned down so many good players to take a need position that we are now talent deprived.
some day i would love to see the doplhins do the right thing and draft the best player available instead of this bull crap of taking a need because chances are you can fill a need later in the draft but talent doesnt come very often and when it does a team needs to take it and that is why the dolphins will be bad for a couple more years.

never passs on a wr or te that are good enough that they can carry a team .
never draft a olineman with the first rd, because he wont be touching the ball and finding good olinemen can be found in rounds 2 -5
I am not saying Jake Long wont help but it looks like we passed on guys that could have helped us even more for guys that are not that good.
if this team is counting on the running game to win games then the fins could be in big trouble . my reasoning is its much harder to stop the pass then it is the running game so if we cant pass then we wont be able to run the ball . Ginn is overrated and the other wrs are not that good and that is the truth. I will give Ginn another year but he better improve from last year or he will be just another draft pick .

[DearbornDolfan]

And lookie here, Beck was the best QB in today's morning practice. By far.

[DearbornDolfan]

Originally Posted by ChambersWI

I won't object to WR if we need one, but Heyward-Bay? Good measurables, but not my choice.

As much as I like Bess, he's really only a situational 4th WR and returner. We have Ginn, Hagan, nobody of note, Bess, and then nobody of note. So, it's not a question of whether or not we'll need a receiver, it's pretty much a guarantee. As for Heyward-Bey, there are really only two things you look for in a draft prospect at that position; measurables and route running.

[SportsWorx]

Interesting read. I don't get the Beck thing. I am still waiting for him to show some promise and but he just hasn't shown much of anything. A light may go on all of a sudden who knows but from reading a wide variety of things it looks like Henne is the future here. I hope he doesn't start right away becuase it may be ugly for a while as they try and develop some Chemisrty and that wont happen much in preseason. Anyway, whoever the starter ends up being may well get clobbered.

[sn9ke.eyes]

Originally Posted by maverick50

I respectfully disagree with you Valandui, here is why, if we take a wr that is not proven and we have passed on guys that are , it tells me the dolphins are not serious about winning . If a player doesnt improve from year 1 to year 2 then chances are we got a medicore player at best.
I really feel that Ginn and beck will be bust I just cant see them improving yet but there is time but we have turned down so many good players to take a need position that we are now talent deprived.
some day i would love to see the doplhins do the right thing and draft the best player available instead of this bull crap of taking a need because chances are you can fill a need later in the draft but talent doesnt come very often and when it does a team needs to take it and that is why the dolphins will be bad for a couple more years.

never passs on a wr or te that are good enough that they can carry a team .
never draft a olineman with the first rd, because he wont be touching the ball and finding good olinemen can be found in rounds 2 -5
I am not saying Jake Long wont help but it looks like we passed on guys that could have helped us even more for guys that are not that good.
if this team is counting on the running game to win games then the fins could be in big trouble . my reasoning is its much harder to stop the pass then it is the running game so if we cant pass then we wont be able to run the ball . Ginn is overrated and the other wrs are not that good and that is the truth. I will give Ginn another year but he better improve from last year or he will be just another draft pick .

What WR or TE has ever carried his team to a championship ?
Almost every coach says you need to run the ball well to win, but you are saying this is bad strategy ?
Teams can miss on 1st round WR just as much as they can OL. I'm not quite sure which WR or TE we passed on to draft Jake Long that you are upset over, but the first TE was taken at #30 (Dustin Keller) and the first WR was #33 (Donnie Avery) . You won't find any GM that will say those players have more talent than Jake Long. He is a great talent AND a position of need both.

[emeraldfin]

Originally Posted by DearbornDolfan

5) I think that there are going to be a lot of check down passes this season and that the running backs had better learn to hold onto the ****ing ball when it's thrown to them.

What do you mean "learn to hold onto the ****ing ball"? Ronnie Brown is one of the best receiving backs in the entire league.....