I think Ricky is gonna tear it up!

[raving]

Originally Posted by GoonBoss

He's not close to Bo at all. Not even one iota close.
ETA: Walter Peyton was one of the classiest football players ever. To put a pot smokeing quitter in the same breath is dishonorable. Walter Peyton had more heart and honor than Ricky Williams on his best day.

I already made this point earlier in this thread - and you make a classic example of this flawed thinking - Walter Peyton was able to function as a person at a higher level - "classy" as you say. I agree, but that is not what I am talking about, I am speaking of what he can do on the field.

Its not what happens to a person in life, but what he does with it.

Quite frankly, whatever your judgements are about his pot smoking, I find the hypocrisy in the sports world around drugs in particular to be mind boggling.

The idea of full grown men smashing each other week in and week out as been fairly compared to being in a car wreck each week in terms of the effects on your body.

That being the case, NFL players and their doctors prescribe medicines far more detrimental to the mind and bodies of athletes all day every day.

Walter's legacy is done and in the books - and I deeply respect his accomplishments and achievements. Ricky's legacy is being forged NOW!

[csabe]

Originally Posted by GoonBoss

He's not close to Bo at all. Not even one iota close.
ETA: Walter Peyton was one of the classiest football players ever. To put a pot smokeing quitter in the same breath is dishonorable. Walter Peyton had more heart and honor than Ricky Williams on his best day.

I couldn't agree more. Ricky is a great athlete yet had very troubled career on and off the field. Putting him in the same breath as Payton is just wrong. Earl Campbell worked his arse off for every yard and never quit until he had nothing left. I think some people never watched any football before 1990 to hear some of these comments.

All that being said Ricky will most likely have a good year but he still is not 2002 Ricky. One great year does not make a career although it does give the guy entry into the Dolfan hall of fame that is for sure.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by GoonBoss

He's not close to Bo at all. Not even one iota close.
ETA: Walter Peyton was one of the classiest football players ever. To put a pot smokeing quitter in the same breath is dishonorable. Walter Peyton had more heart and honor than Ricky Williams on his best day.

Lol your pretty neive if you think Bo, Walter and other players from their era's werent using drugs.

While Ricky intentionally(in my oppinion) smoked his way out of the league. The era of Bo Jackson and Walter Payton are heavnly known as the Steroid and Cocaine era of football.

Drug testing in their days were not as prominent as they are now.

All three were/are amazing players, butdont try to belittle Ricky by saying Walter and Bo were such great people that he doesnt deserve to be menioned in the same sentince.

IMO, Ricky is as good or better of an instinctive runner then they were and deserves any credit he receives.

You know nothing about the demons Ricky had to fight off the field with his Anxiety Disorder. Stop and one day sit down have someone who suffers from Anxiety Disorders talk to you about the fears they have every day every moment of the day. Sleepless nights etc...

So please get off your high horse
CHubbs

[ralphthedog]

I know I have mentioned this before: Rickey has a personality issue. He has a hard time facing people and had a huge fear of failing. he failed treatment many times in the past, because he wasn't treated correctly. He would smoke because he couldn't cope. In the last year or so, he went to a different treatment center and they helped him through the personality issue.

also I think he realized that he hurt his family by smoking. after the DISASTER last season, if he didn't start smoking again, I believe that he really has a chance.

The best part about this, is that Parcels really wants Rickey around. He wants Rickey to be part of his long term plans.

I give Both Rickey and Parcels a lot of credit for all the work they had to do to get Rickey healthy after the injury last season.

If Rickey Stays healthy and clean, he takes the Dolphins to the next level.

[Frankie629]

Originally Posted by ztfan54

if we could get about 800 yards from ricky we will be unstoppable figure another 1300 from ronnie on the ground alone i am pretty sure ronnie will have a combined 2000 this year

I bet they both run for 1000yrds

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by Frankie629

I bet they both run for 1000yrds

I think I heard On Thursday's broadcast, that Ricky and Ronnie, have set goals to reach 2000 yrds this year.

They said it did not matter what combination it ended up as as long as they raech 2000 together.
CHubbs

[RunningBackGuru]

If he stays injury free, I don't see any reason he won't have a good season. I can't really see eather Ronnie or Ricky breaking 1000 though because they'll probly end up splitting the rock. I just hope they don't rush Ronnie back out there without his knee being 100%.

[marinotoclayton]

Originally Posted by raving

Walter's legacy is done and in the books - and I deeply respect his accomplishments and achievements. Ricky's legacy is being forged NOW!

So you say Ricky's legacy is being forged now? Well so far in his illustrius career there isn't a whole lot of legacy to talk about. What maybe 2 seasons worth might be something to start with. But it is his suspensions and drug problems that are overshadowing all of that. So until he does a few more full seasons work there shouldn't be any kind talk about any legacy just yet. He still has a lot to prove to fans and league before he can restore peoples faith etc.

[BigCityCat]

[quote=raving;1062595846]

Originally Posted by BigCityCat

I started a thread exactly like this 2 months ago.

Yes he is going to have a great year.[/quote

Look at the date of this thread - started in May - I saw your thread 2 months after mine and you got much less grief then I did for the saying the same.

I wrote what I said because are titles were exactly the same. I think, or they were really close.

[Phanatical]

Originally Posted by ztfan54

if we could get about 800 yards from ricky we will be unstoppable figure another 1300 from ronnie on the ground alone i am pretty sure ronnie will have a combined 2000 this year

I agree, but you have it backwards, it's Ricky that will have the 1,300.

[Phanatical]

Originally Posted by marinotoclayton

So you say Ricky's legacy is being forged now? Well so far in his illustrius career there isn't a whole lot of legacy to talk about. What maybe 2 seasons worth might be something to start with. But it is his suspensions and drug problems that are overshadowing all of that. So until he does a few more full seasons work there shouldn't be any kind talk about any legacy just yet. He still has a lot to prove to fans and league before he can restore peoples faith etc.

He did have four straight 1,000 yard seasons and led the league in rushing yards on one of those. Not something to sneeze at.

[marinotoclayton]

Originally Posted by Phanatical

He did have four straight 1,000 yard seasons and led the league in rushing yards on one of those. Not something to sneeze at.

Yeah you are right but he really hasn't done a whole lot since those 4 years though. And my point was that he is nowhere near hall of fame category or anything like that until he proves otherwise. And time is not on his side. As far as being a running back is concerned.

[WhiteShoeWillie]

Don't insult Bo with a comparison like this. I don't believe you ever so Bo Jackson play if you're going to compare Rickey to him. This is absolutely absurd.

[Dolfan5000]

I think it's so funny that people still make remarks about Williams smoking weed. It's so funny because I bet a lot of people on this board smoke it themselves.

Weed is irrelevant to who Ricky Williams is now. The last time he got suspended it wasn't even for weed it was a banned substance that sounded like bs to me.

With that said I expect to see a lot of exciting things from him this year.