Ronnie Brown Haters

[thedayafter]

RB has done nothing to secure the high position that many have taken on the guy... it is what it is... no DC is GPing against RB... but RW... another story.... period.

[hugoguzman]

Originally Posted by Canadianfishfan

Thank you... your 'realist' point of view helps me make my point. Once again you are only stating your opinion. as I have stated mine. You stats give little benefit to Brown of being considered clearly a better back than Ricky.

It boils down to whether one person likes Ricky or of they prefer Ronnie.. Not very complicated.

Actually, I don't prefer either one. The point here is that there is no definitive way of measuring whether Ricky is better than Ronnie or Ronnie is better than Ricky right now (in September of 2007, not November of 2002, etc..)

Only time will tell.

Which is why statements of opinion that masquerade as "realist" points of view lack credibility.

If you think that Ricky is better than Ronnie, more power to you.

But then say so. Don't chalk it up to realism.

[hugoguzman]

Originally Posted by thedayafter

no DC is GPing against RB... but RW... another story.... period.

It took me a while to figure out what you were saying (I'm guessing you text a lot and are used to using a lot of acronyms).

So let me get this straight...you don't think that teams game planned against Ronnie Brown prior to his injury last year? Bill Belichick went as far as to say that Brown was the most difficult guy that they had to game plan for, and was actually upset to see him go down to injury (presumably because of his admiration for Brown's ability).

I think that it's fair to say that teams will game plan against both Ricky and Ronnie, no?

[Phanatical]

I love Ronnie Brown, he's a nice guy, a class act, a very talented back.

His big problem, much like Pennington's, is that he can't stay healthy.

IF he can stay healthy this year, along with Ricky and Pennington, the offense is going to be pretty darn good.

Go Ricky, Go Ronnie, Go Phins!

[SR 7]

Originally Posted by obsessivefinfan

I dont get why you quoted me...I didn't start the thread, and actually, if you read, you might agree with what I wrote...I think

lmaoo i can't rem why either but i know i wasn't talking to u but more so to the thread starter lmaoo whoops haha good times

[Canadianfishfan]

Originally Posted by hugoguzman

Actually, I don't prefer either one. The point here is that there is no definitive way of measuring whether Ricky is better than Ronnie or Ronnie is better than Ricky right now (in September of 2007, not November of 2002, etc..)

Only time will tell.

Which is why statements of opinion that masquerade as "realist" points of view lack credibility.

If you think that Ricky is better than Ronnie, more power to you.

But then say so. Don't chalk it up to realism.

The real fact is... now.. August 2008 not September 2007 or 2002.. ricky has run better than Ronnie. In just about every report ricky has been the best athlete on the field in camp. I'll call that real..

Unless you would like to write another sensationalist article about some 'frenzy' going on in south florida about R&R? I guess that does make you somewhat an authority on realism.

[hugoguzman]

Originally Posted by Canadianfishfan

The real fact is... now.. August 2008 not September 2007 or 2002.. ricky has run better than Ronnie. In just about every report ricky has been the best athlete on the field in camp. I'll call that real..

Unless you would like to write another sensationalist article about some 'frenzy' going on in south florida about R&R? I guess that does make you somewhat an authority on realism.

Woohoo! It feels so good when you reveal yourself!

That way when others read this, they realize that your agenda is not on the level.

As usual, I try to point out an inconsistency in your analysis/opinion and you eventually resort to petty insults that have nothing to do with the thread. Guess when you run out of logical arguments or rebuttals, that's all that's left, huh?

Several thousand posts and you still can't stay on the level. Oh well...to each his own I guess.

P.S. How did the "reports" look regarding last night's game? Especially, the comparison of Ronnie's goal line execution as compared to Ricky's from a week prior. Not that preseason attempts amount to a hill of beans in the end, but since we're talking about reports...

[DownDolfin]

Originally Posted by hugoguzman

Woohoo! It feels so good when you reveal yourself!

That way when others read this, they realize that your agenda is not on the level.

As usual, I try to point out an inconsistency in your analysis/opinion and you eventually resort to petty insults that have nothing to do with the thread. Guess when you run out of logical arguments or rebuttals, that's all that's left, huh?

Several thousand posts and you still can't stay on the level. Oh well...to each his own I guess.

P.S. How did the "reports" look regarding last night's game? Especially, the comparison of Ronnie's goal line execution as compared to Ricky's from a week prior. Not that preseason attempts amount to a hill of beans in the end, but since we're talking about reports...

Canadianfishfan's agenda is he's been a fan of the Miami Dolphin for most of his life.

If anyone here has a agenda it would seem to be a nonfan of the team that has only been "covering" the team for 3 years, and comes here and pimps his work.

[kingjust30]

i feel u hugo, ronnie is a beast.i take what he says with a grain of salt unless its hockey

[bigbade]

hey I agree that Ricky has looked great so far this offseason and it really got me excited because coming in I thought our 2 RBs would be pretty good and now I think they can be great...that said if the biggest knock on Ronnie is his inconsistency in playing full seasons then how in the world is Ricky a better back when comparing games played the last 3 seasons and well Ronnie wins hands down...Ricky came back last year and couldnt even finish 1 game before getting hurt and the last time they played together Ronnie out gained and out played Ricky. so until i see Ricky do it for real when it counts ill reserve who i proclaim to be our best back. besides in todays NFL you need 2 viable backs. this thread wasnt calling out the guy whos a little down on their opinion of Ronnie it's for those who have no faith in him.

[thedayafter]

Originally Posted by hugoguzman

It took me a while to figure out what you were saying (I'm guessing you text a lot and are used to using a lot of acronyms).

So let me get this straight...you don't think that teams game planned against Ronnie Brown prior to his injury last year? Bill Belichick went as far as to say that Brown was the most difficult guy that they had to game plan for, and was actually upset to see him go down to injury (presumably because of his admiration for Brown's ability).

I think that it's fair to say that teams will game plan against both Ricky and Ronnie, no?

RB has accomplished little in regards to his career to date... an enigma

[dlockz]

Ronnie is a solid runningback, the only problem is he gets paid fairly elite money to be that solid runningback so at some point the returns have tp get better on innvestment.

[hugoguzman]

Originally Posted by DownDolfin

Canadianfishfan's agenda is he's been a fan of the Miami Dolphin for most of his life.

If anyone here has a agenda it would seem to be a nonfan of the team that has only been "covering" the team for 3 years, and comes here and pimps his work.

That's pretty funny. I've lived in Miami since I was 5 (1982) and have followed the Dolphins closely as long as I can remember.

I'm also pretty sure that I got permission to run my columns from the folks who run this site.

I'm also pretty sure that most folks appreciate reading it and tell me so (and also critique me when I'm off the mark). As a matter of fact, the main reason I post my work here is to get feedback and make sure that I have my finger on the pulse of the fans. That's what often separates me from most mainstream journalists that cover the team.

I'm the only media entity, other than "Big O" Orlando Alsiqueri from WQAM, that has the guts to mix it up with the fans in forums like this one.

I have no doubt that Canadianfishfan is a lifelong fan, but he also has a tendency to be off the mark (in my opinion) and resort to less than adult antics when someone challenges his point of view.

You want to score points with him and take shots a me? Go for it.

It still doesn't take away from the fact that, at this point, it's difficult to say whether Ricky is better than Ronnie or Ronnie is better than Ricky.

In order to figure that out, we'll need to see them in regular season action.

[hugoguzman]

Originally Posted by dlockz

Ronnie is a solid runningback, the only problem is he gets paid fairly elite money to be that solid runningback so at some point the returns have tp get better on innvestment.

Agreed.

If he can stay on the field for at least 13-14 games per season (ongoing 16 games seasons for running backs are fairly rare) I think the return on investment will materialize.

[Gonzo]

Originally Posted by thedayafter

RB has done nothing to secure the high position that many have taken on the guy... it is what it is... no DC is GPing against RB... but RW... another story.... period.

Which DC told you this? You're clueless...it is what it is....period. They're gameplanning for both, which just makes it harder on them.